Who is winning the war Russia or Ukraine? I keep seeing conflicting claims, so I'm not sure what to make of it.
>>544112967Ukraine but primarily The West, Russia is losing thousands of soldiers for villages and farmland.
>>544113034>>544113161I mean, I know it's already a war of attrition, but I'm assuming that this is the way this war will end.
>>544113161>Assuming this is heading toward a war of attritionHeading toward? I'm just giving you a (You) so you get a rupee out of it.
>>544113224>>544113220I just expressed my words poorly.
>>544112967Russia holds more of Ukraine than Ukraine holds of Rusia if you wanna go by that simple classical war definition Russia is winning.
>>544112967russia has currently manpower issue, ukraine have more troops on the front lines. ruskies have fed too much of their manpower to easy cannon fodder and now they cannot draft more cause prisons and volunteers are emptyso front lines ukraine have now best situation in 5 years, russia tries to send missiles to kiev but it has very minimal impact on front lines
deadlock, with no end in sight
>>544113427How can a country as big as Russia have fewer troops than Ukraine? Shouldn't they have more?
>>544113523they had more in the start but they are avoiding drafting from moscow and st.- petersburg where most of the people livesecondly people in russia have no incentive to go to war as everyone knows it's meaningless dumbest war in their countries historu perhaps, that does not benefit or defend russia from anything. they are really fighting for cheap useless land and even if captured ukraine it would be too costly and useless to try keep it under russian control. 140m population country cannot control 40m population country. just looking at near history of middle east, it's impossible to control those and eventually the invader armies leave as it is too costly and useless. like you need to be 50 times bigger to do that, 3:1 is literally nothingso when prisons are mostly emptied and volunteers for money ran out russia really struggles to get anyone motivated to the front lines. you can try to force people go to there but they just shoot the commander and escape etc. it's uselss if they dont have moral to fight
>>544112967>>544113034>>544113220>>544113224>>544113284>>544113387>>544113427>>544113504>>544113523>>544113800All wrong. The Jews are winning
>>544113034Kikes kek
>>544112967China
ukraine now because someone realized why waste our soldiers lives when we can just fly millions of drones at them
>>544113800IDK about that dude, those jihadists were notorious for making you need more than ten times their number to win. Even for people within their own country, they managed to defeat enemies with more than ten times their number, it took an even greater numerical advantage than that, along with support from the whole world, to defeat them. Ukrainians are a different story. Besides, Russia is a neighboring country, so they don't have to send their troops to the other side of the world, which also makes the situation different.
>>544112967Ukraine lost simply because they can't actually take back any land and even the most schizo NAFOs estimate doesn't amount to much Europe isn't going to magically join and save them so at best Ukraine will have a loss that's not as bad as it could've been but still a loss, retards think this is some kind of Vietnam but they get their geopolitics from world of tanks anyways so you're just as retarded if you think they have anything of value to add
The shareholders of the US weapons manufacturers.
>>544114497I am referring to this140m population country cannot control 40m population country. just looking at near history of middle east, it's impossible to control those and eventually the invader armies leave as it is too costly and useless. like you need to be 50 times bigger to do that, 3:1 is literally nothingThese are things that have happened many times throughout history.Even in today's world, countries suppress populations with a smaller size difference.That doesn't mean the Russian side is winning this particular war, and it's true that their morale is low.
>>544112967Ukraine
>>544112967the arms dealers supplying the weapons lol
