I dont think this country is able to live in peace.When you offer them concessions, they view it as weakness and just demand more.If you show them strength, they cry how they are oppressed victims and go on the attack.This is despite already being the largest country on earth that already has everything it can ever possibly need.They could just sit there and get rich off their resources.But they cant.What do you even do with them?Other than nuke them of the earth or something?
>>544121940> you offer them concessionstop kek, you have nothing to offer
>>544121940>I dont think this country is able to live in peace.>says the germanholy shit how unaware of history are you?
>>544121940Russians are primitive barbarians that should haver been fried off the map in 1945. The entire history of Russia is massive loss of life, sexually transmitted diseases, and a preferance for anal sex over vaginal sex.
>>544122389Germany had attoned more than enough.Have you?
also daily reminder that the poor hellhole of Russia has no semiconductor industry anyone has ever heard of, no global brands, and no AI models anyone has ever heard of. Also pension there when old and with diseases and a broken back is like 300 usd/mo if lucky. Most old fucks scrounge in dumpsters for food.
>>544122639>no ai modelswtf how do i move there
>>544121940slavs are kikes there will never be peace among kikes just look at Israel
>>544122675askenazis are german so stfu
>>544121940Wow I can't believe they don't like it when you coup, bomb or outright invade all of their friends and neighbours.
>>544121940You buy their oil and still do, but via other parties like India. You refuse to do fracking and become independent, you get no sympathy
>>544122675this is about russians not "slavs" >>544122725wrong
>>544122806>tf>tpyoure one of the most pro russian countries on earth
>>544121940A globalist bot with a German flag that demands participation in the war and losses for both sides.Germans, like Russians, have no country. They are being replaced and are gradually becoming a minority, yet they are still being forced to go to a third world war.
>>544123093I demand an end to the warbut I see zero effort by the russianswhat are you even fighting the war for at this point?
>>544123093>losses for both sides.It will be another 3 million Ziggers for maybe 50-100k NAFO troops. A fair deal.
>>544122925yes, I live in a dictatorship where my choices in elections are 10 flavors of communism, but I'm not under direct threat of invasion by Russia, Europe needs to get their collective heads from their respective asses, dump the Green movemnet (100% commies btw) and start fracking
>>544123195youre idea that Europe can just frack ourselves to energy independence sounds utterly stupidi never even heard that of anything close to this being feasible
>>544121940>>544122468We really need to do something about these Russians. I'm literally starting to freak out here guys. It might be time to pull another Sweden. Guys?
>>544123326You could make a start by not burning gas for your electricity lmao
>>544123141If the war has been going on for 5 years, it means it’s being sabotaged properly. The poorest and most brutal have already been taken away. I just find it funny to listen to people when you see only Asian hordes on the street, yet everyone calls you the killer. If you can’t tell a provocateur bot from a real person, then you’re the one who’s stupid, not me. Russia is not a monolithic country. It’s made up of ethnic enclaves that the Moscow authorities are pitting against each other so they can rule even with a low approval rating.If France declares war on you, you’ll blame the local population for everything, won’t you, and not those brown hordes that were brought there?
>>544123417half of our gas is from Norway nowadaysthe russians fucked it all upthey got absolutely nothing out of this war
It is going to be so great watching you kneel, NAFO faggot.
>>544123561just make some fucking peace proposalwhy arent you doing anything?do you understand how fucking weird this is?you started this war, noone else can end it
>>544122389The russoid has had a war for every single generation where their tactics was largerly drowning the enemy in their own blood.>these trees are over 300 years old
>>544123755>you started this warWell, I’m not Putin. Trump carried out bombing raids on Iran, but you’re not complaining about all US residents for not wanting to stop it. Obviously, the entire US population is responsible for the murder of children, right?
>>544121940>pic unrelated
>>544123595Imagine if you used that gas to power your cars insteadWow what a genius idea
>>544123755>you started this warAkshually little buddy, the war started when you niggers overthrew Ukraine's democratically elected leader.
>>544123187
>>544123962well, the americans are voting against his party in the midterm electionand yes, the Iran war is about as stupid as the Ukraine war, no disagreement from me
>>544124054I just don’t understand how you can demand collective responsibility from a multi‑ethnic, multicultural, multilingual, multireligious empire. I’ll let you in on a secret—4chan was blocked in Russia about two years ago. I can write now because the data center that Cyber Gulag was building was blown up, but that’s clearly not going to last long.
>>544123326It is. Europe best chances for energy independence are nuclear, hydro and solar, your limited hydrocarbons should be left for chemical processes not energy generation.
>>544124241I have zero idea what youre babbling about?is Putin not the elected leader of Russia?
>>544124273What happened to the elected leader of Ukraine?
>>544121940They are subhuman scum
>>544124370this isnt about UkraineUkraine is an irrelevant shitholeis Russia willing to end the war or not?noone else can answer that question for youand it looks like you dont
>>544124273>is Putin not the elected leader of Russia?Do you really believe in fair elections in Russia and that the ruling elite doesn’t have infinite resources to manipulate any outcome they want?If the whole of Russia supported Putin, millions would enlist at the front. As you can see, after 5 years, only ugly alcoholics are sitting in the trenches, fighting for 2,000 dollars, and even then, the captains take most of it from them.
>>544124535well, its not like russians are protesting against the war eitherdont try this "were oppressed by our leaders, dont you love us russians bullshit"
>>544124482>this isnt about UkraineWhat was all that shit in the OP about "Russia can't live in peace" then?
>>544124665Russia started the war in Ukraine, did I write anything else in OP?
>>5441236691.5 million russian casualties and nato hasn't even entered the ring yet.
>>544124746The war in Ukraine started when you overthrew Ukraine's democratically elected leader little buddy
>I dont think this country is able to live in peace.When you offer them concessions, they view it as weakness and just demand more.
>>544124783so, what do russians want?they want Janukovich back?
>>544124832Shall we ask them or should we just guess?
>>544124877what?
>>544121940>I dont think this country is able to live in peace.>When you offer them concessions, they view it as weakness and just demand more.>If you show them strength, they cry how they are oppressed victims and go on the attack.sounds like Israel
>>544121940> I dont think this country is able to live in peaceThat’s because your idea of peace is becoming an American vassal state.
>>544124901Shall we ask them what they want or do you think it would be it would be more fun to guess?
>>544124902of course
>>544124917>That’s because your idea of peace is becoming an American vassal state.you sure know what that means, Hashimoto
>>544124597No one will complain that they’re being oppressed.For the most part, the population is atomized, but they’ve resorted to an Italian‑style strike and are stockpiling food because no one can reach an agreement with anyone.I told you, this is an empire where it’s everyone against everyone, and those in power have endless resources, which they spend on war and control.I seriously don’t understand.You’ve built yourself an airy castle about Russia, but in reality, you don’t know it.Even I don’t know it all, because it’s terribly fragmented.
>>544124535Ziggers having to buy their own military gear and equipment is still one of the funniest things of the whole 5 year long 2 day special military operation.
>>544122389Russia's entire history is basically them invading their neighbours over and over again until they grew to this size.Do you think they just held hands and proposed: do you want to join our country?
>>544125037>in stark contrast to the history of all the other nations in and around europe
>>544125014its a little suspicious how you are able to post on 4chanisnt that banned for normal russians?
>>544122389Also this is the typica FSP paid replyOnly Russians think like this: hurr but you invaded us ONCE.So if you invaded them once, this justifies them invading everyone else at least twice.
>>544125014this anon has a solid point.
>>544121940>kraut talking about vatniksHoly KEK y'all so neutered post-WW2
Truly a subhuman collection of creatures, yes. This has been known.
>>544125064When did we invade someone else to take their territory?Your FSB paid shill will say we invaded Russia in 41. But we were just taking our Bassarabia region back that they stole.Yeah to your shock most Euro countries never invaded. ironic that you appeal to history without knowing it.You think those statelets in Europe were able to invade each other all the time?
>>544125122Buddy..... Europe's entire history is war and invasions, the entire world's entire history is wars and invasions - wtf are you talking about?
>>544125184the essential russian world view
>>544125184ignore that retard, he is drunk, should be in bed.
>>544121940slav mentality, they're very agressive by genetics
>>544125240that australian is a russian
>>544125184No don't try to muddy things up with vague shit like 'entire history is invasions'.Things are a lot more specific than that.Romania's entire history was not invading its neighbours. It might have happened like once or twice in more than 1000 years.Whereas if you check Russia's history it's all invading its neighbours and taking their land
>>544125212>>544125278Ah so you can still reply to me, you just stopped earlier because you got btfo
why are any europoors still awake if not drunk
>>544125315you havent said anything remotely usefull, Ivan
>>544125070I already told you above that it might be because the Yandex data center was blown up. I’ve always found it amusing when a bot with a Russian flag would talk about how to properly destroy Europe, and that would generate a lot of rage.Didn’t it seem strange to you that suddenly there were so many Russian flags, and it wasn’t just one‑sided pro‑Kremlin narratives about how great it would be to destroy Europe?
>>544125301>Romania's entire historyWhat since 1800?
>>544125339Bit of a copout that innit?
>>544125278even if he is, he is not wrong
>>544125368A country's history is the history of its people, not the history of its bureaucracy and legal entity.If someone wrote the history of Kurds, they wouldn't say: ah well shit, actually they have no country, so no history either.
>>544125399no, you just repeated your nonsensewhat does that even meam "lets ask the russians"?are you stupid?
>>544121940>i dont think
>>544125433Yeah so you're talking about the entire history if the Romanian people, who only formed the country of romania in the 1800s because before that they were involved in all those wars and invasions and stuff?
Can you drunk europoors go to bed and let americans meme you
>>544125469He's talking about a country from our direct neighbourhood
>>544125488No we were not involved in any invasions even before the country named that way got a legal status
>>544125449You asked me what the Russians want as it was seemingly something you desire to know.Surely you must agree that the best way to learn what the russians want is to ask them what they want?Surely you don't believe it would be more productive to just guess about it?
>euroniggers want to redo 1900-2000you couldn't be less blatantly jewish even if you tried. All this is going to do is kill several more generations of White Europeans (no brown people are going to fight these jew wars).
>>544125537Hmmm that's strange it says on the wiki you fought wars against both the Romans and the Ottomans That's quite a history of war you have there
>>544121940>Offer them concessionsMay we see them?
>>544125616Europoors got nothing else but to fight. They so neutered now cause the best either left or died.
>>544125573do you think this shit youre saying makes you sound intelligent or something?are you stupid, you russian nigger?yes, go ask the russians, why dont you?
>>544125711Wait its ok someone already asked them so we don't have to
>>544122925Lol, I wish
>>544125616noone wants to repeat anythign, you retarded mexicanrussians started this war, and theyre not stopping, what do you think should be the conclusion of that?
>>544125756>russians started this warBack to this again are we?What happened to Ukraine's democratically elected leader?
The factories need workers, the prisons need schizos, and the schizos need to be conscripted.Can't improve on perfection.
>>544125804as I said, what is the conclusion of that?do the russians want Janukovich back?youre just saying stupid shitthats all youre doing in this thread
>>544121940>I dont think this country is able to live in peace.When you offer them concessions, they view it as weakness and just demand more.If you show them strength, they cry how they are oppressed victims and go on the attack.Sounds familiar. Odd that.
>>544123595What did *you* get out of it? Cause even Merkel seems to have admitted that Europe never wanted peace and any deals with Russia were just a cover to arm Ukraine and prepare it for a war. So what did you get for your trouble, Hans?
>>544125869The conclusion of that is that the war started when you overthrew Ukraine's democratically elected leader, so why do you keep claiming otherwise?
>>544121940Turn off the tv
>>544125915arming Ukraine was obviously the correct choice, since Russia invaded themyoure just trapped in your russian echo chamber
>>544125920no, the war didnt start then, other than that Russia invaded Crimea, if that is what you wanted to say
>>544125756>russians started this warRussians in country 40–50%. If you want to blame the whole country, call it “rossiyanin”/“Rossiyane”; these people are lumped in with the imperial mongrels and migrants. But, of course, you can only blame.
>>544121940Russia is far from a state of war. Russia spends about 6-7% of its GDP on military needs. In a real war, this figure would be closer to 50%, taking into account mobilization, rationing, and other restrictions/mandates. For comparison: the Soviet Union during World War II allocated 40% to this.
>>544125957Merkel admitted it publicly and I'm trapped in an echo chamber. Didn't know that Merkel is a Russian propagandist.
>>544125980Yeah the war did start then little buddyYou can look it up on Wikipedia if you need help, or ask an AI
>>544125804He fled the country after some protesters died.If he was so confident the people supported him why flee the country?Because he knew he lost popular support because he decided to cancel an agreement with the EU. And that triggered popular protests.Then the next president Ukrainians elected was pro-EU. Go figure.That was supposedly "the coup". The people elected someone else they wanted and rejected being a Russian puppet state. And Russians couldn't stop seething since then
>>544126010of course she admitted it, because it was the right choice, especially in hindsightif we would have send more, maybe russians would have thought twicewhich would have been better for both sides
>>544125756>russians started this war, and theyre not stopping, what do you think should be the conclusion of that?I'm surprised Russia waited so long to attack those bridges. Let's not forget that Ukraine attacked a bridge in Crimea years ago.
>>544125896ooooh (((Waaaaayne)))stop evading getting called out for your faggotry in the thread you samefagged about yourself>>544116342
>>544126053Oh why did he flee?Let me guess.... for no reason at all?
>>544126038>21 retarded russian nigger poststhis shit is exactly why I made this thread
>>544121940the moment your retarded gov invades russia again you will lose even more territory
>>544126000>In a real wargr8 cope m8
>>544126094Another copout after you once again lose the argument
>>544126116you are literally referencing jewpedia. Stop before you really lose.
>>544121940>Offer concessionsYou have never offered them
>>544125915>Merkel seems to have admitted that Europe never wanted peaceYou didn't understand the meaning of that.Merkel admitted Minsk was a pact closed to give Ukraine time to prepare because they knew Russia would invade anyway.They knew that since 2008. Ukraine knew it too.So Minsk was supposed to give Ukraine some time to get ready.It did not mean that Europe was preparing for war against Russia, that's some schizo bullshit spread by brownies and FSB paid shills.Euro leaders were already resigned that they couldn't stop the invasion anymore, so might as well gain a year or two to prepare.
>>544126116you have no argumentyou stupid russian niggerdo you unerstand Ukraine is a souvereign countryyou cant just invade because you dont like Zelensky or some stupid shit
>>544126146>akshually wikipedia is russian propaganda nowA bold new cope
>>544126154would a vatnik really use aus flag to troll? Better nations than that.
>>544126082Yeah because he was given orders to open fire and kill all the protesters.And since he knew he lost the suport of the majority with this decision to cancel the EU agreement, he knew the day would come when he'll get put to trial for that.So instead of handling the hot potato thrown to him by Russia so they could solve their problem, he said fuck it and fled.
>>544126154Yes they were a sovereign country with a democratically elected leader and when you overthrew that democratically elected leader you started a war.Yet for some reason you keep pretending otherwise?
>>544126170I bet you never seen a wikipedia edit page or seen jewpedia change (and hide it) over the years lil yellow zoom zoom.
>>544126188So what was he afraid of exactly?
>>544126094In that case, I’d say our conversation was a lie and I’d shout something like “Long live Putin,” but I’m afraid your burning ass won’t appreciate this humor.
>>544126218You're welcome to dispute the claims bud
>>544126154this happenedn also when Tucker Carlson interviewed Putinand the stupid russian nigger was talking about ukrainian history for half an hourTucker was trying to help Putin make a fucking peace proposal, or get out of the war or talk to the west and make a fucking pointand the fuckign stupid russian nigger couldnt even understand the point of the entire interview
>>544126250>he's replying to himself nowBuck broken
>>544126094The West is trying to use the country as a battering ram to inflict a strategic defeat on Russia.
>>544126248we disputing what jewpedia is legit or what you're multiple bad yellow takes are?
>>544126201the fucking irony, of russains pretending to talk about "democracy" as a case for waryou really have zero self awareness
>>544126316Dispute that the war in Ukraine started when the west overthrew Ukraine's democratically elected leader
>>544126065>It was the right choice not to follow through with the agreement that was meant to prevent the war and after the war happens, to admit you never intended on following through with it anyway and blame the other side entirelyEuropeans have no self awareness and Minsk II did not even require Ukrainian neutrality and abandoning aspirations to join NATO btw
>>544126325Not an argument
>>544126352oh really,so Russia wasnt armign the fuck out of donbas seperatists?
>>544126250Real negotiations don't exist. There is only imitation. Since 2022, Zelensky banned negotiations with Putin by decree. Kyiv refuses Minsk and Istanbul. The West doesn't allow Ukraine to make decisions. If negotiations had been ongoing, there wouldn't be hundreds of billions of dollars in weapons and mobilization.
>>544126362it is, youre just a retarded russian subhumaneveryone on earth understands youre full of shit, but you keep talking to yourself
>>544126346Fully aware of what our muslim president and female secretary of state did to ukraine. I'm sorry you islanders and chinks have no influence over here.
>>544126374RUSSIA NEEDS TO MAKE FUCKING PEACE PROPOSALNOONE GIVES A FUCK ABOUT UKRAINE
>>544126150So let me get this straight. Europe knew since 2008 that Russia would invade no matter what but Europe was not preparing for war against Russia? Got it, makes total sense.
>>544126311Translation: the west doesn't want to let us invade our neighbours, so that means it's working on our strategic defeat.
>>544125573I honestly think thats problem though since the Russians in charge are generally to stupid/corrupt to not know what to even ask for that will help them. Most the Kremlin are just there to clap at the higher ups decisions being Putin and his cronies that they expect complete humiliation dogeza style glazing or your trying to out them or are to be taken advantage ofAny decision that could benefit both sides is out the question since they always expect one must suffer or is getting cheated somehow. Given Putin track record they most basic shit is to be expected stolen/sold off but are told to grateful for what is given "which is usually beatings." And this is with his own men and citizens mind you
>>544126405No that's a whatabout fallacy bud.The claim is you did something bad by overthrowing Ukraine's democratically elected leader , if your response is to say "whatabout Russia's democracy" that in no way justifies your own bad actions in Ukraine.
>>544126325The other reason they quote for invading Ukraine was defending the right of Russophones to speak their language...As if the Russian state is known for caring deeply about its own citizens, but somehow they go to war for some people living in Ukraine because they couldn't speak Russian.Complete bullshit made up to justify a landgrab.
>>544126154Sorry faggot. They instituted a language test for all civil servants and fired everyone they deemed not fluent in ukrainian, like cops.Then the police depts were taken over by AZOV and other neo nazi larpers.
>>544126455So what do they say they want then?
>>544126445For Russia, Ukraine’s accession to NATO is an existential threat that eliminates strategic buffer zones. It is perceived as a matter of survival, not merely a territorial dispute. Russia can afford to bear enormous losses and economic hardship for far longer than Western democracies can continue to finance the war.
IT'S WAR TIME
>>544126455Things are different after the Russian oil targeting and Kaliningrad threats.
>>544126439You realise 2008 was the year when the financial crisis hit?We've been living in a doomed world ever since, dealing with the consequences of a crumbling system.Nobody had time or money to plan for war. They were too busy trying to put out the fires everywhere: the euro crisis, the Greece default crisis, the morgtage crisis, the Ireland crisis, the UK bank crisis (forgot the name North-something) etc. We've been doing nothing but dealing with crises in Europe since 2008. Then the corona hit in 2020 and Russia invaded Ukraine in 2022.THere never was time to prepare for anything
>>544126154ukraine is not a real country, you stupid fucking faggot
>>544126504There never was real support for Ukraine to join NATO because they don't qualify. They're too corrupt.Even EU membership is a long shot and there are lots of countries who opposite it.Merkel already opposed NATO membership for Ukraine since 2008 at the Bucharest NATO summit.
>>544126550Im finsihed with this threadanother proof that Russians will never do anythign but continue the war
>>5441265412008 hit you europoors hard? Maybe, stop relying on America.
>>544126570B U C KROKEN
>>544126455Civil war status, nafoid boomer?
>>544126578There's something called international financial system, ya kno.Like banks from Europe investing money in US stocks, bonds, etc.
>>544126579typical asian small cock post
>>544126614Bit of a non-argument there champ
>>544126476>overthrowing Ukraine's democratically elected leader >remove some Russian puppet from office that ruins your country>he actually flees to Russia, proving the Russian puppet allegations>Russia invades your country for removing their puppetThis is somehow a big brain argument for Ziggers to justify their thieving nigger behavior.
>>544126494I'm guessing all of Ukraine, Nato disbanded really every other country on earth to know Russia is better. Better yet Russia just be in charge again of half the world like the good old soviet days.If your expecting them to stop on demands you prob have to actually witness them winning.>somehow it still cost thousands of their own men lives even the most peaceful scenario and know one will know why
>>544121940umm but you don't understand, the complex mysterious slavic soul and the eternal suffering of not being able to conquer NATO countries etc etc...
>>544126569And what about Minsk, which the Ukrainian side did not comply with, which even Merkel said? And all of Zelebobik's statements about creating nuclear weapons — what are those for? Why the fuck do we need unhinged people at our border who either threaten Crimea or plan to build nukes? Here it's purely politics that plays a role, not your wishes.
>>544126610>we invest and need you>you dont understandI do and you plus you're continent need to be self sufficient. America doesn't invest in you no more, if anything we are de-investing>>544126640gif 4 u. last (you) get
>>544126598kek. british flags talking about other countries being weak and collapsing from civil war is so rich
>>544126669nice bait faggot. democracy is fake. vote for the kike with the blue or the kike with the red tie. which one will it be, goy. oh and don't forget the billion imported bomalians have the same exact right to vote as you do, chud
>>544126669So vote him out lmao>democracy confuses the NAFO tranny
>>544125896Fun fact: Russian is spoken more in Israel than English is. Kikes fucking love Russians.
>>544126598I mean who do you guys actually have lined up after Putin and know we're gonna get rid of Trump soon. But you guys had that fag for so long that I have to wonder if those body doubles are doing more work than they let on
>>544126670>so what do they SAY>"I'm guessing"Lmao you did the thing I was memeing about earlier
>>544126772would you rather it be one ruler that is a giga kike for decades or others every 4 yrs that are all kikes
>>544124535Did millions of Russians love Stalin? No. Numbers of enlisted soldiers and loyalty are not a good causative metric.
>>544126110>didn't answer the question at hand award
>>544121940Shalom
>>544126772>democracy is fake.Yet you went out this year to vote for Shelomov's party, curious.>>544126798We gonna argue about democracy when Kang Shelomov is fisting Ziggers for 30 years straight? Don't think so HIVan.
>>544127039No you're going to abandon the argument about Ukraine's democracy because you known you get BTFO on it
>>544127019did the vatnik swap his vpn location? oh goy
>>544126816well some brought up the Tucker calson interview with Putin and honestly if that anything to go by I guess it just as to refer to stuff they wanted out this than give them any non curated responses they need to answer
>>544121940> Break the NATO accord.> It comes with consequences.> WAAA BIG VLAD IS KICKING MY BUSSY!What the fuck happened to Germans?
>>544127141Damn looks like we'll just have to keep on guessing then....
>>544127083>Ukraine's democracyThey had every right to remove a Kremlin puppet that sabotages their country.Imagine if Zion Don fled to Israel after some liberal protests and then Net&Yahoo declared war on the US.Do you think anyone would support such a clown scenario and argue about democracy?
>>544123141> Ignores a decade worth of diplomatic attempts ignored by jewish interests.Truth is, kikes are really fucking dumb.
