What do you expect him to do? Zelensky is just doing what a country's leader ought to, merely defending its defense and long term interests. Ukraine could survive. Do you prefer that it surrender, instead? Suppose you were in charge of Ukraine in 2022, what do you do?
>>544124215he's a kike who needs to leave office.he only keeps the war going because he doesn't have to face re-election. He'll be hung in KYIIEEEEV square.
>>544124215Are you retarded?
>>544124215To the last slavnigger, a truly detestable vile subhuman scum race
>>544124318Tell me how. Doesn't a good leader try to defend if they are getting attacked?
>>544124215It's not quite that simple. Ukraine was colonized by particular interests, which is the whole reason that Russia had to go to war with them. It wasn't simply another country, but a springboard to destabilize the Russian Federation, same with the Caucasus in the 90's and 00's. They even tried to get Kazakhstan in on this, but they were smart enough to steer clear.
>>544124403Wasn't Ukraine its own identity since the 1200s or 1300s?
>>544124394By cutting a deal ceding land instead of getting wrecked demographically, economically and end up losing the land anyway? That is literally why treaties were signed for thousands of years between nations.
>>544124691Isn't it brave to not surrender?
>>544124798You understand that signing a treaty is not surrendering, right?
>>544124215yes you can defend yourself but what good does that do if you have millions of deaths doing so and destroy your demographics?
>>544124820I thought it was.
>>544124850How old are you?
I expect him to lay down his arms and stop the bloodshed he caused in his country
>>544124887Millennial, a few years from being Gen X.
>>544124913Didn't Putin cause the war?
>>544124986No. It was the US and its meddling. Look it up
>>544124986Not really.
>>544124215No, he does a job of a travelling salesman. He just goes to rich countries and begs for money and weapons and makes public appearances in various events. That is not a job of a real president. Putin made much more job to fight the sanctions, to install agent Krasnov into the White House, etc. That is what real presidents do.
>>544124285Sorry but.... you're not getting the diesel hahahaha I'm just... hahaha I mean it's just not happening hahaha
>>544125019>>544125028What is the background of 2022, then? It obviously looked like a Russian invasion to me.
>>544124691>Surrender large groups of your citizens to be raped and murdered by Russian occupying forcesI understand genetically you are brown and submissive by nature but most normal people prefer to not be raped and murdered
>>544124510Ukraine was never historically its own country. It always belonged to some other larger entity.
>>544124215Before I engage you further, do you consider Russia's invasion unprovoked? and is it somehow extraordinarily evil to invade a neighbouring country? as opposed to invading multiple countries thousands of miles away for no coherent reason?One real solid marker of an NPC is that they emphasize "attacked a neighbour" and "unprovoked". While reason dictates that the only possible justifiable war one waged against your neighbour.
>>544125048After the fall of the USSR Ukraine has good relations with Russia. NATO always wanted it in its camp, as the Donbas region is rich in resources. So it overthrew the Ukrainian government in 2014 in the Maidan color revolution, and forced a pro-western institutional overhaul.This new government started killing the eastern Russians, in an attempt to solidify its control over the Donbas. This lead to a revolt in the east, and the rest is history.
>>544124691>conquered mentality
>>544125144I don't know everything about it, but it looked pretty unprovoked to me. What is the Russian pretext for the war? Zelensky and the Ukrrainians were almost unanimously viewed as heroes in the West for the first year or two, what happened to that?
>>544125161>the CIA can just overthrow any government it wants>it doesn’t do this to Russia or China because uhh reasonsThe people of Ukraine already hated Russia like every former USSR republic. We didn’t have to do shit.
>>544124215>leaderKike
>>544125282Of course. The US has tremendous soft power which it has used to indoctrinate enemy populations. The post-Soviet nations were no exception.Counterculture, Coca Cola, jeans, Hollywood, pornography, etc. all of this is CIA soft power
>>544125397>porn and Coca Cola will make you overthrow your government and fight a war You shitskins are fucking retarded. If anything they just make the people fat and complacent. Russia has no one to blame but themselves.
>>544124215That excuse is not going to help him when the CIA decides he needs to go.
>>544125470>muh shitskinsLike clockwork. >If anything they just make the people fat and complacent. Exactly. This is how your government (not you, lol. They fucking hate you) sustains the global liberal-democratic system.
>>544124215If the Ukraine was a real country Zelensky would be dead.
>>544124215>What do you expect him to do?To step down because the gypsy's presidential LARP has expired>Zelensky is just doing what a country's leader ought to, merely defending its defense and long term interests.This is not a movie and zelensky is a comedian/actor who has scripts handed down to him. He backstabbed his sugar daddy jew Kolomoisky and switched teams now being a good little lapdog for London.>Ukraine could survive It's current leadership has no future.>Do you prefer that it surrender, instead?I prefer to see a real war instead of a proxy in which the zionism terrorist get to experience what it's like to be on the receiving end.>Suppose you were in charge of Ukraine in 2022, what do you do?Ukraine went off the rails in 2014 and the derailing efforts began in 1994. The Maidan and the coup were the final stages of that work in which Ukraine and Crimea were supposed to end up in EU and NATO.
>>544125082>but most normal people prefer to not be raped and murderedDoes Donbass count? Maybe Palestine? Death to zionism!
>>544124215Yes i prefer him to surender. Ukraine is destroyed enough already. There is point when you should leave casino. You don't have to wait until they kick you out. Same with this. He is just enjoing free money and suffering of goyim under his dictatorship. Give up Donbas and slaughter can stop tommorow. They will never take it back.
>>544124215Le goblin vert is going to drone himself into an early grave
>>544124798No.
>>544124691Another demographics is destiny spastic. Go live with congo apes (then I remember you already do, Macaco).
>Ukraine could surviveas a small landlocked rump state, which will eventually fall back into russian sphere of influence.>Suppose you were in charge of Ukraine in 2022,probably follow through with the peace agreement that he initially agreed to back in march 2022.
>>544126095>Irish retard with dogshit opinionWhat's in the water over there? Do you know who Igor Girkin is?
>>544127040>The Kangaroo ziojew thinks he is better informed Should you be learning Chinese?
>>544124215Hold elections at least.He says he wants all ukraine to vote but he conveniently ignores that he wasn’t elected by the people of Donbass.Besides, he is a kike. He he was at least a real ethnical ukrainian (or even Russian) it’d make much easier to support him.The reality is that he and his jewish goons have been making billions of dollars while real ukrainian men are being kidnapped of the streets to die in the meat grinder.
>>544124215Fuck off fag
>>544127113>LE JEW JEW JEWAnswer the question. Do you know who Igor Girkin is?
>>544124394A good leader doesn't allow nato to escalate or push weapons closer to Russia's border.
>>544128018This never happened, how many times does this lie have to be debunked
>>544124215>What do you expect him to do? Zelensky is just doing what a country's leader ought to>>544124394>Tell me how. Doesn't a good leader try to defend if they are getting attacked?you do everything to protect your citizens' lives and preserve their peace and way of life.What did Zelensky do?Send all of them to the trenches.When did he do it?When Russia demanded Ukraine to be neutral. All territorial questions were up in the air, subject to Zelensky's personal political ambitions.Now Ukraine is down 50% of its entire population, down 20% in terms of territory, and pretty much unrecoverable industrially and economically.But hey, at least he managed to get his face on top western magazine covers, amirite
>>544128494Literally none of this is true lol
>>544128532>Literally none of this is true loloh, so ukraine didn't lose territoryoh, so 50% of ukraine's population didn't run abroadoh, so ukrainians aren't getting kidnapped on the streetsoh, so Ukraine's entire GDP isn't directly dependent on foreign grantskys
>>544124215He's a post-coup insert "elected" by the coup faction after said faction jailed or murdered all opposition.He bombed tens of thousands of Ukrainians in the east as "Russian separatists" and then when Russia says it's "liberating" those regions and that those regions are voluntarily separating from Ukraine to rejoin Russia, he goes around and says those regions aren't Russian separatists anymore.>>544124403Bingo.>>544124510Ironically you could say Ukraine is ancient Khazaria and Their actual homeland? I guess this means they got invaded by Slavs and kicked out of there too.
>>544125282>oivey I'm going to change the conditions to make it seem outrageousInstead the reality is that the US can subvert, upend, or overthrow governments where it has the connections and resources to do so, on a scale relative to the target.Ukraine had a small government with large inroads of corruption.China has a massive government with a lot of internal self-monitoring.
>>544125824Yep, war could've ended overnight if the hohols hung that merchant off a lamppost and just said "No NITO no EU"It would be in a better position diplomatically, economically, and demographically.Instead it's going to get turned into blackrock slums for 10 million immigrants.
to the last hoholx
>>544124215>Zelensky is just doing what a country's leader ought to
>>544124285>he's a kikeHe's an actor, first and foremost.
>>544124510Where'd you learn that, schlomo?
>>544125264>I don't know everything about itThen stfu, you stupid fuck.
>>544124215He is a man that will be written into history as a brave and accomplished leader of men. He has a lovely wife and nice children. He has the respect of every decent human on the planet. He has been both a successful comedian and warrior. An accomplished leader of a country in hard times. Now consider those above who detract him. Incels.Poorfags.No children.No stake in society.No accomplishments.No positive attributes.No place in history. Wind your fucking necks in you bunch of insignificant little shit stain losers. This man mogs you in every way and you know it.
>>544124215Even the retard Mao understood that sending all of your men into a meat grinder to defend a few sqkm of land is a bad deal. This doesn't create a scenario where you can come back from a position of strength, it just weakens you. The stupid chink understood how to play the long game and succeeded. This jewish retard is just speed running ukraines death because he wanted to look strong by demanding russia give him back Crimea and donbass.
>>544124215I want them and all their kids buried alive. I want to see their stacks of bodies. I hope they're used for organs. Fuck these people.
>>544129275You got your sides mixed up there kiddo. Ukraine has fought a very clever war with Russia rushing headlong into trap after trap. They are now being pushed back on every front while being pummeled in the rear like a battered wife on football night. You really should try to pay attention. Your lack of knowledge makes you unqualified to speak on what is occuring and ultimately proves what a stupid little shit you are.
>>544129334Luckily, what a failed little nothing man angrily smashing his keyboard with his cheeto encrusted fat fingers in his mother's basement surrounded by cum socks, piss jugs and abject failure wants, isn't what is going to happen. So why not go back to dreaming about that one girl in school that once smiled at you and leave the rest of us successful men to get on with what needs to be done?
>>544124285>he only keeps the war going because he doesn't have to face re-electionSo russia would stop if there was an election?
>>544125019I did and it was russia that started it.
>>544124215He needs to be assasinated, taken out, capture, abducted by aliens. The Ukraine conflict has lasted way too long.
>>544129535i dont eat cheetos i have diabetus
>>544129535You are literally a Ukrainian draft dodger
zlonsky will kill all the fucking hohols5 years of this shit you have no idea what the soros propaganda here did to my brain
>>544129636I will be in Ukraine volunteering with a humanitarian charity a month from now. You will still be exactly where you are, probably crywanking about how shit your existence is. We are not the same you societal parasite.
>>544129945>I will be in Ukraine volunteering with a humanitarian charity a month from now.lmao you admitted itDeeply embarrassing>yfw you find out your "charity" is just TCC recruiters
>>544130050I doubt you've stepped outside of Canada since your arrival from bumfuck nowhere India.What the fuck would you know about anything?
>>544125264That's because the west installed him to provoke Russia. Gayto had been trying to get a war with Russia for like 50 years. The glowniggers overthrew the Ukrainian government and armed and trained a paramilitary to rig elections and kill any opposing power to their western backed and controlled pro war organization. So basically glowniggers started this war. They also have prolonged it and they have also propagandized the retard masses into thinking russia is just some psychos attacking poor jewkraine for no reason. Oh another reason for it was biolabs in jewkraine that were there to make and release bioweapons.
>>544124285And how exactly do you propose they conduct an election when a portion of their country is chased out of their homes by invaders? It'd be a sham.Not to mention the risk of interference by their enemy. They could just start bombing polling stations to scare people from voting in areas likely to support the current government.
I think it's realy fucking easy for people not involved in Ukraine position to cast criticism. But during ww2 every nation had to emulate authoritarianism because it was the only way to win. Not doing so meant risking greater division, and that is prime for the enemy to exploit.
>>544124215>What do you expect him to do?Take the deal and make peace. The 2022 peace treaty let him keep the donbass. If he'd taken that, ukraine would be in an infinitely better position than it is now. There was never any hope of victory and the longer he keeps the war going, the worse the peace deal gets. He's going to lose everything he's refusing to give up anyway and more.
>>544130517>He's going to lose everythingBy advancing everywhere? Seems like an odd way to lose. I put it to you that you are wrong and a collosal faggot.
>>544124691>ceding landYou pussy
>>544124215Zelensky's actions consistently do more damage to his allies and sponsors than his enemy
>>544130706Do they? Could you give an example? It's just, I looked out my window and nothings on fire, I have money in the bank, the internet is working, there's no queue at the petrol station and 1.5 million of our boys aren't dead or crippled.....Now go and sit in the corner and consider how your ancestors turn in their graves at the sight of you, the genetic dead end of stupidity.
>>544130608>advancing everywhereOkay, so it's a stunning flawless victory for Ukraine? Carry on then, I guess everything's okay.
>>544130608You are a literal fucking retard. They always push some and then get turned into bbq. They arent able to take and hold any ground nor will they ever be because they lack the man power. They started off at a massive disadvantage in man power and now lost like 1/4-1/3 of their fighting population. There is no numerical way that Ukraine will ever win this war and it's retarded to blindly believe it every could.
>>544124215I think he is incredibly corrupt, he is by far the worst leader I have ever seen in Europe and yet, he has full support basically for free from all of them, he comes across as a secret epstein islander, able to pull all sorts of favours and has shown complete disrespect to anyone that helps him. I suspect he does lots of drugs to sleep well at night, he has goblin like features and goblin like motives, I dub him the coke goblin because macron and some other despicable leaders had a coke party whilst discussing how they can capture for funding for this ridiculous war.I hope he dies horrible in a week but for whatever reason he has persisted like a cancer for a few years, I do have to praise him for ending covid-19 scamdemic but beyond that I don't believe he needs anyone's help, it would end the war faster if everyone stayed out of this war and let him die and lose faster, plus he will absolutely not repay any of us in the event that he wins the war, I doubt very much if he did win the war he'd want to share the war reparations of Russia and in the event Ukraine is defeated, Russia isn't going to be playing any nicer on the borders, we basically just created an enemy for absolutely nothing throwing resources at a fucking coke goblin's fake country.
>>544130909Yet they are advancing. In the north, in the east, in the south east and in the south. How is that possible when their manpower is so depleted?You can go check the maps for yourself. The main russian ones are rybar or amk. Just incase you think I'm being bias......Or are you just another daddy issues loser who doesn't want to know the facts and just make his jowls wobble to try and lose one of your chins?
>>544131067What do you base any of that on?Your feefees?You fucking womanly neurotic little twat. Present your evidence or take your emotions off to bed with your lonely wanksock. Loser.
>>544124215Erections now!!The jea our!!!
>>544130800>Now go and sit in the corner yadda yaddaLook at the little boy here using "grownup" punishments. You must also think if one of your daddy's colleagues messes up, the employer puts him in timeout.Anyway>attacks Russian "shadow fleet" (lol) shipping, basically behaves like Yemeni sandalniggers; Russia retaliates and hits Ukrainian grain shipping, causing food prices to spike globally>Attacks Wildberries... absolutely no utility. "We set a civilian warehouse on fire" boo fucking hoo>Shamed the western coalition on the world stage when photos made it out that kindergartens shelled by the Russians had armored vehicles parked in their shadows. Literally worse at baiting and shaming your opponent than the Iranians, who successfully pinned the death of a hundred schoolgirls on Trump, even though it was them who moved a girls' school into a former military building - no sane man would have the balls to put children somewhere he knows his enemy knows was a military installation>bombed Nordstream (admittedly with Biden's consent), doing jackshit to the Russian war economy, but destroying one of his biggest allies, Germany. Germany lost hundreds of thousands of manufacturing jobs and two refineries in the wake of that fuckup>bombed nuclear bombers parked outside as per the nuclear detente treaties, doing nothing to harm the Russian war effort against Ukraine, but jeopardizing the symmetrical nuclear status of Russia and America. Russia won't renew the nuclear treaty now, thanks hohol. If we die in nuclear hellfire, we know we will be thanking Zelensky and his admirers>In an atmosphere of global diesel shortage, keeps attacking Russian diesel facilities. Civilian diesel, mind you - military supplies are unaffected. Zelenskyis causing fuel lines and riots in France, and midterm instability in America.My ancestors fought fascists on our own soil. Our war was against nazi men, not their families. We even sheltred colonist children marooned with us
>>544131306>You must also think if one of your daddy's colleagues messes up, the employer puts him in timeout.My father has been dead for a decade lad. My son is probably older than you. And neither of my daughters would touch your seethy little self with a bargepole. Now jog on.
>>544124215i expect him to do exactly what hes doing winter is coming and ukraine is entering desperation territory, doesnt mean i have to support them im not an idealist hopefully nobody trusts the globalist wing of american politics again fucking faggots
>>544124215BOMB STEEL PLANTS DRONE FACTORIES TANK FACTORIESPLENTY OF TARGETS TO BOMB UNTIL NOVEMBER 4 THAT DONT PISS OF DRUMF
>>544124215Surrender and end the carnage.
>>544131442No. They will be specifically aiming for diesel from now on. To piss off trump.The fuck is the fat decrepit faggot going to do about it?
>>544131461You fucking pussy.
>>544131479CUT ALL THE USAIDS BECAUSE YOU PISSED HIM OFF
>>544131165>didn't read any of the fucking postthe OP is asking for opinion, retard and that's what he gets, now work hard like good goy for the goyvernment so they can steal your money for ukraine.slava ukraini right? right?
>>544124215Yes?Taking your loss when you have obviously lost is what a good leader does; you live to fight another day.As is he just squanders his country's chances for more of a future every day.But that is of course just the way it looks for a third party like me, i assume he at least thinks he knows and sees (and cares) more than i do and as such arrived at a different cobclusions.>But the Russians!They're pretty much Russians themselves, there is nothing involving Russia you can say that can genuinely change minds.
>>544131503He did that years ago. This is a politics board. Do try to take an interest above mere anecdotes your gay lover let slip.
>>544124215wtf are you on about faggot? what is the point of a country without people? when russia invaded ukraines GDP dropped 40% then went to +20% the following quarter. How? All of that capital was western. Now Ukraine gets 70 billion injections on regular intervals and is at +3%. What would happen if this 70 billion would be taken away? What about the fact the country is now twice the size in terms of population? If that! The reality is even if the war with russia stops a new one would emerge internally right after and ukraine(current) will probably be split into four pieces.All for what? You retard do understand if he surrendered immediately ukraine would have survived? The people are the country, not a select few billionares. Have you any idea how happy will the world be seeing americans drafted for war? Personally I'd be happier if bongs and frogs would. US would be wise to stay out of a big conflict.
>>544131509>slava ukraini right?Yes. Indeed. I work for myself though. It's incredibly rewarding. How long does it take you to save up from your UC for a new pair of tracksuit bottoms?
>>544131567THAT WAS ONLY SOME OF THE USAIDS WHY DOESNT ZELENSKYIV BLOW UP THE RUSSIAN MIC DAY IN DAY OUT UNTIL R*SSIA HAS NO MORE WEAPONSAMERICA TOLD HIM WHERE EVERYTHING IS GO BLOW IT UP
>>544131580You should have seen Germany in 1945.... Quite a sight. You realise there's been wars before we can easily reference where the destruction was greater, the loss of life more widespread and the economical fallout incomparable?And yet, there they are, making a mockery of your entire point just by existing. Imagine that, an inert bit of geography just proved smarter than the organ in your head you are supposed to think with. What a retarded fucking monkey you are.
>>544131549>Taking your loss when you have obviously lostMay we see the loss?
>>544131614>THAT WAS ONLY SOME OF THE USAIDSThe only USAIDS reaching Ukraine currently is the smell of aids emanating from your dear pedophile leaders shitty diaper.
>>544124215LOL k VPN pidorUkraine lost
>>544124798No it’s brave to kill yourself
>>544131851>Ukraine lostWhat did they lose?
>>544131705Sure, you can see it from any satellite, even the BBC has plenty of accurate pictures you bongs can easily access.A war of conquest is about land and Russia has had that victory virtuslly from day one.Refusing to call it "Crimea war #somamy" does not make it not a Crimea war.Or if you're more Call-of-Duty-minded you can look at their population numbers.
>>544131890You should demonstrate this bravery. Immediately.
>>544131908AHH, you believe the conquest of land is winning?Me too. Now explain why Russia keeps losing that land they took in 2022 and continue doing so?How do they turn around this 5 years of retreat you can see on your BBC satellite if you bother to look? You imbecilic oik.
>Zelensky is just doing what a country's leader ought toHow has this war benefitted the ukrainian people? LmaoThis is a kike puppet who successfully used ukraine as war fodder against russia
>>544131979May i see this loss?BBC maps will do.As so far every time i look i see virtually the same map every year, a map showing Ukrainian defeat.I will accept any outcome in this conflict, so if you can win by all means do, just realise you don't have forever, none of us do.And Russia isn't the one draining our coffers.
>>544132041>How has this war benefitted the ukrainian people?They have retained their freedom from tyranny and oppression under the jackboot of Asiatic retards.Next question you spastic.
>>544131687>some inbred bong who can't point to ukraine on a mapanother day another inbred angloid talking about topics he has no idea about. what was the last book you read?
>>544131400>threat by proxy>using his own daughters as leverageanother thing a man with at least one fighting ancestor in the last 10 generations wouldn't do. If you have kids to begin with, we can be sure they don't brag that you are their father.Over here we know how to do war, and especially in this family we have 500 unbroken years of voluntary military service. Turks always wanted us enslaved and made slave raids on territories not under their control, but we faced actual genocide from the WW2 Germans - 200+ villages and towns wiped off the map, so many dead my grandfather remembered it was not safe drinking river water due to all the dead bodies polluting any surface stream or river you could find. And still, my people didn't take it out on the German civilians. Wehrmacht soldiers considered underage by our norms (if not Hitler's) were sheltered. German officers often brought their families to lord over us - as they died or fled, we didn't slaughter their civilians left behind. For the next 10 years, my grandparents harbored - clothed, fed and educated - a German child left behind until someone from her family came to take her back to Germany.A civilized war is between the men and the leaders, not the civilians, an ideal noted by Romans, Greek, and ancient Indians alike. Terror attacks against civilians and civilian infrastructure, borne out of impotent desperation, are semitic, and a shame that Bomber Harris, the founding of Israel and Zelensky all share. Do note that the train terminal that was the official target of Harris's chimpout was operational and used to carry away the dead bodies on the morning of the same day as he chimped out.But someone as sheltered as you are on your island cannot know what courage, honor, and winning a war means
>>544124215Well, he will most likely grovel for more money, send more citizens to their slaughter and hide himself somewhere safe.
>>544132068>a map showing Ukrainian defeat.So, when the entirety of the European continent was labelled the third Reich they had won?If you shake your head from side to side do your ears make a whistling sound?
>>544132087>some inbred bong who can't point to ukraine on a mapWhen was your last visit to Kyiv? Mine was in June. See how easy this is? Making you look stupid. It's because YOU'VE GOT NOTHING BUT YOUR FEEFEES.
>>544132163Now you're just obviously evading the question, besides i literally said BBC maps will be okay.If anything those tend to lie in Ukraine's favor.And to dig a bit deeper into your claim of my presumed gullibility: In the early years of the war i paid (Ukrainian) locals to livestream the war from their homes to cut through the fog of war, so even if i were to play along that this appeal to fog of war still made sense after half a decade or so it still would not apply to me. And as an aside: It's literally just Ukraine, not Europe you melodramaqueen.
>>544132105>another thing a man with at least one fighting ancestor in the last 10 generations wouldn't doMy grandfather on my father's side went across north Africa against Rommel and chased the Germans up through Italy. He was an artillery spotter. That's as forward as you get. My other grandfather was in the navy on a destroyer. Radio operator. The last man to leave the sinking ship. I didn't bother reading the rest of your post since you are so retarded in your assumptions I doubt it's worth my time. What do your grandfathers do? Sit on plastic deckchairs swatting flies outside their poorly maintained houses I'd imagine.
>>544132277>And as an aside: It's literally just Ukraine, not Europe you melodramaqueen.You appear to have missed the point. Probably that breeze going through your empty head distracted you.
>>544132375On the contrary my melodramaqueen, i mocked your bullshit openly.
>>544124215It's fine. I will gladly pay $100 for a loaf of bread if it means we can keep this war going another 15 years.
Oh sweet, a russian larp thread
>>544132413You claim Ukraine has lost due to land being occupied on a map. Let's try this with just one nation as a continent appears too complex for your limited thinking capacity. When America occupied Vietnam and you viewed that occupation area on a map, Had Vietnam lost?
Urinians are pathetic, cant even revolt againts manlet jew president, i guess they want this war so we should let them all die i dont care
>>544131125Advancing into a death trap of atry, mines and drones isnt going to win the war you retarded bong. This is whybyour nation hasnt been shit for 100 years. You all are a bunch of inbred fucktards. I bet you think they should all line up in a row and have a cavalry charge right at the mines and Russian arty too. Thats basically what the advances are achieving...
>>544124215He's a jewish dictator pushing Ukrainians into a disaster they didn't ask for. If Ukraine wasn't so corrupt there would be an uprising among the military to depose him. Not even Azov is willing to do it.
>>544131494ironic
>>544132489>i dont careRun along then.
>>544132504>Advancing into a death trap of atry, mines and drones isnt going to win the warSo, what will? Because that's EXACTLY how wars are generally won.Is this war something different? Please explain.
>>544132483i happen to have had an uncle who was in Saigon at the time, i would have queried him and have known the truth regardless of maps, same as now really.As earlier indicated i do not consider reality immutable, but neither side has time on his side.And while i have no reliable view of Russian coffers or support i do have quite some perspective on our side of things.Do reconquer what you can before time runs out and your "All in" bet becomes a perfectly avoidable total loss.
>>544125282The CIA is constantly stirring up shit in Russia and China though. They however aren’t exactly successful because of the latter’s state security apparatus.
>>544132508You're a loser pushing your mother to an early grave that she didn't ask for. If you weren't such sorry loser your family would rise up and throw you out of her basement but they're too fat and lazy to do it. See how easy this is? Just making shit up and typing it out?Except I'm probably right about you. And you are not.
>>544132585>neither side has time on his side.Ever heard of the hundred year war? There's no countdown on depravity.
>>544132642Not a good strawman, MI6. Kike.
>>544124215If you think the Kyke of Kyiv cares about the Ukraine or its people then I have a bridge to sell you. >>54413044>muh warThe U.S. held elections during the Civil war and WWII. There could be a ceasefire with UN-supervised elections. And there should be simultaneous UN-supervised independence referendums in all oblasts claimed by the Ukraine. That’ll never happen because once the Donbas, Crimea, and Odessa vote to be independent or become part of Russia, the international rules based or must obey, in accordance with the UN Charter’s freedom of self determination.
>>544132640>The CIA is constantly stirring up shit in Russia and China though. They however aren’t exactly successful because of the latter’s state security apparatus.The fsb is constantly stirring up shit in America and the EU. They however aren't exactly successful because of the state security apparatus.You think this is news lad? It's called 'the great game' and it's been going on forever.
>>544132706It's not a steawman. It's me artfully displaying your idiocy for all to see. Now go slap your fat belly and watch it ripple.
>>544132684Yes, i also happen to know of its many breaks and nature.Ever heard of the righty years' war?Not very comparable to this WW1 style fighting either.Honestly this reminds me more of the many "noble" wars the petty nobles of renaissance era "Italy", up to and including the rented propaganda to drum up support over what were in essence never more than hobby wars by nobles too proud to admit the limits of their own convictions and powers.
>>544132766weird homo fantasy from ZOG outpost UK
>>544132684>>544132793>Righty years' warLmaoEighty years war, dutch war for independence from the global spanish empire.
>>544132714As soon as the Russians leave those regions can have a referendum openly, freely and without interference. If you think they are voting to join Russia after this shit then you need to stop eating cowshit as the parasites have been nibbling your little brown jeetbrain.
>>544132311a tanker and a field gun commander, sons of an infantryman and a cavalry captain respectively. My father volunteered in Bosnia, my brother volunteered in the sandnigger countries, and I trained the guys sent to stand with him.The whole point of posting was how nuch of a judeofeminine faggot you're being, but I guess there is correlation with your guys being in the rear with the antennae, like the rest of your pathetic warmongering island that can't wipe its ass without American involvement.Our wars were real. Our wars were victorious. Fact of the matter is that a German soldier, a Russian officer and a Slovak insurgent could sit down together for lunch to discuss what's next now that the Red Army conquered the village. With civility. I can tell you that happened because it happened to my family. The family home was exactly in the middle of the length of the main street; first requisitioned by a German officer for him, his headquarters and his family, then by a Red officer, managed by a one-eyed WW1 veteran who supplied food to under-rationed teenage wehrmacht troops and also to his insurgent army son, who would pause the fight in the winter to spend Christmas at home with his parents and, ostensibly, his enemy. No one knows what became of Officer Otto after he left westward, but someone in Germany knew where to look for their daughter.But that is the point: civility. Destorying what needs to be destroyed to win, not what causes pain.Ironically, the crops and stables were burned down by Ukrainian SS auxiliaries, and the Reds had to turn their rear echelon back to intervene - someone forgot to slaughter the hohols to the last man as the front passed over us. Ironic, that in this thread I will prove that Hohols, Brits, and Kikes are related.
>>544132714UN DOES NOT RECOGNIZE ANNEXATIONS BY FORCE ALL THAT CLAY STILL BELONGS TO THEUKRAINEITS EASY TO WIN YOU GO UPSTREAM AND BLOW UP THEIR DRONE PRODUCTION MISSILE PRODUCTION ETC CHOP CHOP OL CHAP
>>544132793>nobles too proud to admit the limits of their own convictions and powers.Yes. Russia should just admit they bit off more than they could ever chew and go home. They are quite stupid though. Like their many supporters here. It will dawn on them eventually.
>>544132570For Ukraine? Nothing is going to win this war for them short of every country on earth joining and even then they might win a nation of rubble. But if that happens it's likely China would ally with Russia and then gayto and jewkraine would be even more fucked. Obviously you can't do basic math but the population of Russia is vastly larger tbs the population of jewkraine. Russia has vastly more industrial capacity. Russia has way more land mass, Russia has the largest nuclear weapons stockpile on the planet. There's no possible way for jewkraine to do anything but cope and seethe. We really should have let the Germans deal with you island of inbred snow monkeys.
>>544124215Ukrainian population loses after 2022 are comparable with world war2 mln dead soldiers , close to 2 mln dead civilians, 7 mln already became russians, 6 mln are in europe and few more millions just disappearedRussia can wage such war until almost all ukrainian goyim are goneI think the biggest issue to peace is EU atm, they refuse to surrender and accept own irrelevance (in future europe will be in colonian status to USA, they have shown to russia and china that EU is their market)
>>544132739Precisely, and war is the last argument of kings.
>>544132864Cute how you pretend it's just them.
>>544132887>the population of Russia is vastly larger tbs the population of jewkraine. Russia has vastly more industrial capacity. Russia has way more land mass, Russia has the largest nuclear weapons stockpile on the planet.So why can't they win?All that math. Undone with 5 simple words.
im glad my country isn't getting invaded right now because my president is a jewess and she'd glady be throwing every man into the meat grinder because we're goyim and therefore don't really count as human beings. well if anything she's destroying it from the inside without the need of an outsider conflict
He should surrender. Russia and Germany as the powerhouses of Europe have the rights to their historical lands. Temporary constructs like "Ukraine" or "Western Poland" are blips in the the flow of history that will be corrected
>>544132920Can Ukraine just go home? No. So yes. It's just them. Simple as.
The global south will seethe at this man for decades. Might even turn him into an idol or something to scare little shits away from trains or hospital blankets.
>>544132938Don't start fritzy boy. It didn't work out well for you the last two times.
>>544132938Germany is younger than virtually all of its neighbors.>>544132965It literally can though, that's the thing.
Zelensky is between a rock and a hard place.Look it's obvious Zelensky in reality, is actually Pro-Russia. He spent much of his adult life and career in Moscow, his comedy often mocked ass backwards Ukrainians and Banderites, He couldn't even speak Ukrainian until 2023 and all his notes and conversations outside of state speeches are still in Russian, he was elected on a peace ticket. The problem with Zelensky, is the same problem he had before the war. If he does anything fucking rational and tries to move Ukraine towards a Neutral position, suddenly a ""Russian"" car bomb will suddenly go off under his feet, and Azov and their allies will see the need to "restore order" and engage in a Junta. There is a big discussion going around IR circles that Ukraine politically is already starting to go for perhaps a "reapproachment" towards Russia as the US and EU gets cold feet from giving Ukraine unlimited support, but this article posits such a thing will result in a civil war in Ukraine itselfhttps://voiceofeast.net/2026/08/08/thered-likely-be-another-civil-war-before-ukraine-meaningfully-turns-away-from-the-west/
>>544124394He's a jew that was selected by the U.S. to start a war with Russia. That's not a good leader, but then jews never are.And he never thanked Julia for electing him and all the coke money that came with it.
Right. I'm going to go and paint my radiators and all you zigger lovers can suck on my fat Scottish cock. Bunch of fucking losers one and all that you are.
>>54413289428 million dead Russians? That's pretty brutal.
>>544132925Your words are those of a 5 year old retard who has repeatedly been explained why they lost their game, numbers exist you see. If your entire nation is killed and you have nothing but old ladies, retards and non participant kikes left, you cant wage a war. If you cant wage a war you definitely cant win one. And that is the situation in jewkraine. They are literally kidnapping retards and old men to be blown up by Russians. They don't have a military and they don't have the political will to wage this desperate war. This will end with jewlinsky being publicly executed and Russia annexation of whatever the fuck out wants of jewkraine. And probably a demilliterized zone as a buffer between Russia and gayto.
>>544127635That troon has probably self-ACK'd by now.
>>544132077>muh freedumbsso they have elections? no?why are they kidnapping folks to fight their war?idiot jew
>>544131509You support Jukraine why exactly?Did you get lost on the way to preddit?
>>544132920he LARPs as a glownigger. i haven't seen such a pathetic asmongold watcher in a while. he's so low iq he doesn't realize everything he says can be asked of him as well. like why hasn't zelensky bombed kremlin and killed putin? why hasn't zelensky decapitated russian leadership even though they proved multiple times they can do deep strikes into russia.
>>544124215I thought he wasn't a dictator?No elections yet?Also, he's now become a global threat. You wanna complain about climate change and global warming?I can prove that setting fires to the fuel facilities are whats causing the floods and mass climate crisis we are currently experiencing.In fact, anyone who commits arson can soon be arrested and tried for terrorism on a global scale.Will you reach the stars? Or will you all burn because of the choices made by jews?
>>544133201Exactly. This is the second time jews have tried to genocide the Ukrainian population.Holodomor is still the worst example though.
>>544124215I'm hoping they hang him from a lamp post like they did with Mussolinithe kidnapping videos have radicalized me
>>544133085Russians lost around 150k dead soldiersTotal direct civilian loses from war are a bit more than 20k dead for both sides, majority are in warzone (former ukrainian citizens)
>>544133341Agreed. Inexcusable behaviour.Without the internet we likely would have no clue it was happening.
>>544124215>be Poland 1939>be Austria post 1945those were the choices. the anglo told him Poland was the way to go, he trusted them because hes a gullible, butthurt belt fool
>>544124215A people's leader should negotiate a surrender in an unwinnable situation, not pointlessly send a generation of his men to their deaths.Only they are not his men, because he is a kike rat installed by judeo-americans, so of course staying in a position of power that enables him to embezzle billions between himself and his friends is a much higher priority to him than the annihilation of the Ukrainian diaspora.
>>544133538If he tried he would get literally holocausted by Azov.
