Unironically how do you fix this?
>>544129900Who gives a shit? Pay me trillions and I'll fix it.
What has capitalism done for me lately?
>>544129900Turn the US into a Marxist, communist hellhole for 75 years. Make everyone miserable, and those who resist be sent to a prison camp to be executed. All while calling it "progress".
End FIAT, jewish money printing and inflation of your life energy in the form of money
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>>544129900By going through an era of socialism.>But it doesn't work wahhhhNeither does capitalism. Gen Z and younger literally have nothing to lose. All the assests and wealth are concentrated in boomers. We are going to find out the hard way how socialism fares.
yeah why doesnt anyone just flip the socialism switch, it would be so easy and life would be so much better for everyone :(
>>544130026ONLY EX GOMMIES WHO ESCAPED GOMMUNISM TRULY KNOW THE SCOURGE OF GOMMUNISM RETARDED DSA R*DDITORS DONT KNOW SHIT
>>544129900Give them communism. People don't know what they want until you give them what they ask for.
>>544129900Seems a bit low.
>>544130026Everyone is already miserable under Capitalism.
>>544129900You can't because you have billions of third worlders willing to do everything for pennies on the dollar and every politician is bought off by corpos and billionaires.
>>544130079The politics of envy lead down the road of death and destruction. Heed my words.
>>544130458Shut the fuck up boomer
>>544129900>>544130011>>544130254Without Capitalism you wouldn't be able to buy stuff like this to get enjoyment out of. Would you be okay with that?
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>>544129900That's normal. Most people in that range own nothing.
>>544130535>Without Capitalism you wouldn't be able to buy stuffNobody can buy stuff under Capitalism already. They're willing to try something else.
>>544129900Freicorps.
>>544129900Prevent as many people as possible from voting.
>>544129900Taxes on the rich and wealthy, higher federal minimum wage, strict control on money in politics and lobbying, and dramatically empowered unions,
>>544130535Well I can't afford computer parts anymore anyways so why should I care?
>>544129900Slavery, like the old days. Leftists are the slave class. They are our inferiors and we forgot that.
>>544129900People tend to like systems that work for them. When its only working for 1% of the population this is actually quite a high approval rate for capitalism vs what it would be rated if people were honest with themselves.
>>544129900>Unironically how do you fix this?Stop devaluing currency.Stop allowing in foreign scabs.Stop paying parasitic leeches welfare.
>>544129900By bringing capitalism to heel. it's like a rabid dog currently, and that's not how you prosper. america was at its greatest when capitalism was tightly controlled.
>>544129900It is a mathematical certainty now more than ever that the cooperations will own everything if they're not broken up. Socialism is the bare minimum.
>>544129900Monarchy
>>544132015McCarthyism in the 20th century really did a number on us. It was effectively a massive psyop which made economic left thought literally unthinkable by most Americans. The irony is that we came out of WWII with an extremely strong social state which created this new middle class and, so long as you ignore the fact that black Americans were still getting fucked by the country which formerly enslaved them, was the golden age of this country. The long tail of McCarthyism really is the story of postwar America. By aggressively punishing economic-left thought, they established capitalism as natural, immanent, and real. In the American social fabric, it became phenomenologically speaking as light and dark. You don't question whether light or dark exist, you just orient your life around these physical forces. Americans largely see capitalism the same way. As economic-left thought was eradicated, we saw the long slide from strong, universal welfare programs; low inequality (again, ignoring the pointless destitution of America's blacks); and massive infrastructure programs; to what we have today: economic and political rape of the many by and for the benefit of the extreme few. Maybe things are shifting. We'll see.
>>544129900You fix it by materially improving people's lives, not through shaming or buzzwords.
>>544129900Modern capitalism is the US printing money to fight israel's neighbors, and Europe sinking further into debt fighting Russia.
>>544129900Capitalist should know how demand and supply work, if you want the votes, provide the voters with what they demand.
>>544129900By giving them the ability to buy into the system, which they don't haveLee Kuan Yew understood this which is why Singapore has socialized housing
>>544132418Capitalists know exactly how supply and demand works: they demand favorable legislation and supply legislators with money to get it.
>>544129900>jews gone wild>fix this
>>544130535Right so it's robber baron capitalism or gulag socialism, that the choices?
>>544130026Yeah but ummm instead of going to extremes why can't we have socialism like Europe?
>>544132529You realize you can have socialism without authoritarianism, right? There is nothing implicit in socialism which requires dictators and gulags.
>>544129900could probably start with paying them enough to afford rent
>>544129900they were promised no work future and ended up with worthless degrees, debt, no jobs and everything is on subscription model
>>544129900Fascism
>>544129900The problem isnt capitalism, it's fuckface bosses that make working anywhere impossible. Even a 100 percent national socialist ethnostate won't work if the bosses are all evil assholes that constangly breathes down their employees' necks. I've been hurried by fuckface bosses my entire life and even been disrespected by young whippersnappers who have only worked a couple of weeks where i've worked and have thought they could boss me around. It's terrible and it is the most demoralizing and infuriating thing on planet earth. Disrespect like that ruins everything and then it doesn't matter what your political system is, if that's how your people behave.
>>544130026It's the people that's the problem, though. If everyone behave correctly, then any political system can work. If everyone turn into disrespectful assholes, then it doesn't matter what kind of political system you have. It's not like you can just be all like "national socialism!" Like it's some sort of magic trick that will immediately make a crappy shitty people immediately start behaving right and being nicer towards their own kind..
>>544130535Socialists use money. The middle class have all the money... and the jews seethe and go into hiding.
>>544130535Nigga, no one can afford anything under free-market capitalism right now. We need European-style heavily regulated social market capitalism
>>544130079It was working until leftists started breaking it so they could cry>Capitalism has failed!>give communism a chance!But communism will make us all slaves of government and we’ll all be equally poor as shit. Much of modern science and quality of life occurred under capitalism. Yes it struggles with equality but over time everyone gets to benefit.
>>544132776>Even a 100 percent national socialist ethnostate won't work if the bosses are all evil assholes that constangly breathes down their employees' necksThis is what labor unions are for, anon. The way the laws are written, you are supposed to be able to get together with your fellow employees and negotiate for better conditions with your bosses at every level. The sad part is that these laws are on the books and have been for a very long time. We just don't enforce them anymore. Collective bargaining and workers' rights are the literal pillars of socialism. Even beyond welfare and taxation, the core value proposition of socialism versus capitalism is giving workers more rights at the workplace. Capitalism took that from you.
>>544132972>Yes it struggles with equality but over time everyone gets to benefit.This is flatly untrue and getting worse by the year with no stopping condition. It will only stop if we stop it.
>>544132595Yeah, this one also fails, the difference is that people are allowed to go home afterwards.
>>544129900Gas the fucking kikes
>>544130535In some way, I imagine norks to be more happy than americanspeople are not materialistic
>>544129900Nationalism AND socialism.
>>544132937>free-market capitalismit hasn't been that for a long time. We are basically living under communism they have just twisted it to make it seem like its not. All of the Capitalists get capital injection through the government indirectly through quantitively easing. None of them have been profitable for over 2 decades and they are "too big to fail". So they aren't really capitalists they are just a bunch of fucking losers. thats why everything is fucked up and burning down.
>>544132324it's already monarchy via billionairesOn the dark enlightment (nick land, peter thiel, elon musk, sam altman, etc),Andy Beckett stated that NRx supporters "believe in the replacement of modern nation-states, democracy and government bureaucracies by authoritarian city states, which on neoreaction blogs sound as much like idealised medieval kingdoms as they do modern enclaves such as Singapore."
>>544129900the only cure for commies is a lead injection. but also when people say they hate capitalism what they're actually saying, whether they realize it or not, is that they hate the foreigners and jews who have abused and exploited unrestrained capitalism in their country to push them out of participating in the economy of their own nation, but the solution to these parasites is still the same as the one for commies.
>>544133120Yarvin's single great insight was noticing the similarities between the distributions of power in aristocracy and late capitalism. He just followed it up with the most retarded conclusion possible.
>>544132267america was at its greatest when it had no jews and immigration, especially of non-whites, was tightly controlled. i wouldn't doubt that most of that 47% are browns and foreigners to begin with. the only prediction I can honestly make of the future of the US is that there's going to be a lot of ethnic cleansing.
>>544133234>[impotent wignat noises intensify]
>>544130535Enjoyment?
>>544129900Capitalism turned into "all money goes to boomers, sorry, not sorry".Most people work to give more than half their income to boomer landlords going on weekly road trip vacations. Taxes exclusively fund boomer healthcare, cheap (and not always legal) labor for boomer business owners, and bailouts for their investments. Now the entire economy is old people pissing away money earned by the next 10 generations and telling everyone to work harder. It's disgusting and unsustainable.
>>544130535Capitalism priced me out of everything I enjoyed so boomer investments and assets can have unreasonable and extreme high prices. I don't exist so old people can have good times but you seem to think that is capitalism.
>>544129900there is none, capitalism is jewish
>>544130535What are Americans buying that instantly always causes them enjoyment at all times?Mcdonalds isn't that good I don't think
>>544132544Ummm like where in Europe? And if you want things to be like some place in Europe, why don't you move there instead? Especially since Europe is already doing whatever it is that you think works so great.
>>544129900Capitalism only works if it's highly regulated otherwise it turns into monopolies and the socialization of adverse effects (e.g. just dumping pollutants into lakes/rivers/the air instead of disposing of them properly.) Any working capitalist system we had has been aggressively chipped away at since Reagan and has just turned into blatant cronyism at this point.
>>544129900William Dudley Pelley, the father of American Fascism, wrote a whole book about fixing Capitalism back in the 1930s when its fatal flaw of wealth centralization first became apparent. Things have only gotten worse sense then but his idea would still work just fine - turn the country into a corporation in which the citizens own the shares. A co-op everyone literally collectively owns and is invested in. The only hurdles are the jews and the ultra wealthy. It's an intriguing book, because a lot of it sounds like commie garbage at first glance, but is actually the opposite. You'd literally be turning everyone into capitalists while also fucking the commies over by delivering on the promises they never can.The book is titled No More Hunger, picrel is half a chapter, and he published a second book addressing the only real issue in his plan (state's rights being maintained) named "Something Better" in the 60s. If you actually care about fixing capitalism and don't just want to jump on either the "It's based fuck off" or "it's shit, class war now" trains, it's definitely worth reading into.
>>544133753I think they just like to be able to choose to be wasteful or unhealthy or dangerous or whatever. The shitskins from the 3rd world can't stand this because there are people who have to drink the same water that they take a shit in. And they don't understand how 1 American spends more in 1 day that they spend in 6 months on basic things like food, shelter and cleanliness. It angers them and they want to bring America down to the same level of despair and shit that they are used to.
>>544133865since and states*holy fuck I need to sleep
>>544129900So people who are too young to know the Cold War era or life pre-9/11 or even life pre-social media and internet. Yeah, that's a really well-informed crowd. I wouldn't put much emphasis on their opinions or cater to them until they've matured more. Anyway, maybe "AI" will upend everything soon enough.
>>544133865What to do about lazy people who dont give a shit about the system or shares?
>>544129900The government has constrained capitalism so much that it is quite difficult to flourish individually.This point has to be made clear by politicians.The systematic suppression of housing growth by municipalities plays a big part in making life miserable for young adults.
>>544129900Basically, it's social contagion. You get some popular people in social media and celebrities to say ""CAPITALISM BAD" and it influences others into parroting the viewpoint. A lot of gen Z outsource their thinking to others. Ideas are given to them.
>>544133993Supply them with a place to live, food to eat, and medical care so they can get back on their feet.
>>544129900The guys at the top would have to dial back the greed. Fortunately for us that'll never happen and they'll eventually be slaughtered in the streets.Murdered with the biggest, tallest line... what a way to go!
>>544133993Let me put it another way. What you call "laziness" is actually economic behavior. People who don't want to work, if you strip the moral language, find the compensation insufficient compared to what it costs them to provide labor. It's just business. This is the old dichotomy: when firms make hiring or firing decisions, that's just business; when workers make decisions about providing labor, that's selfishness or laziness or whatever. It's a double-standard. I wouldn't worry too much about "lazy" people. If anything, it'll raise your value as an employee. Your service as a provider of solid, reliable labor becomes more valuable when firms lack it.
>>544130026This. Present false alternatives like national or European socialism, capitalism, communism, then let the cattle decide the name for the power elites that extract from their lives to live in parasitic luxury.
>>544134185The problem is that we are not living in the fucking 50s anymore. "The guys at the top" are the drivers of innovation because innovation these days needs exorbitant amounts of money. Sometimes start ups break through, but to get to the top it's no longer enough to open a fried chicken restaurant. To develope new technology you need the capital to do so. Where does the capital come from? From people who already have it. Nobody is going to be starlink in their basement, you need a giant fuck ass company that can launch satelites into orbit, you need a team that can sell shit globally. It leads to the shit we have now, you say it's because the people on top are greedy, but it's actually because they have the money needed to hire enough people / create shit that is needed to drive innovation.
>>544129900>Unironically how do you fix this?Deport the cheap labor, eliminate all taxes on the working class, and adjust the corporate tax code to encourage giving your citizens good jobs.The labor market is fucked because government open border policies created a glut of cheap labor and subsidized it by allowing foreign migrants to get government benefits. Destroy the government system that's stagnated wages for decades and we'll start getting decent jobs again.
>>544129900You end all gibs, which are being funded by the current system.
>>544129900The normal way to fix it is to permit the natural and healthy inheritance of familial wealth. Unfortunately boomers are evil and hoarding their second-hand jew gold so it won't change. I can't wait for these antifa faggots to drag boomers out into the streets, I may even catch myself applauding the Proletariat.
>>544134091>The systematic suppression of housing growth by municipalities plays a big part in making life miserable for young adults.Americans have no clue how bad it becomes at higher density. In Yuropa, they incarcerate you for trying to build outside socialist, government managed human cattle farms. It is the number one policy, and now that AI bros take all the land for their robot factories with freshly printed mountains of funny money, people are barred from human existence forever.Why do you all think the Trump klan wants Canada and Greenland so badly? They feign Sovjet wargames, but they want Lebensraum for the machines.
>>544134292>but to get to the top it's no longer enough to open a fried chicken restaurantExactly. And the "you gotta have money to make money" setup means the ladder is already raised. Mobility is low, suffering is high, and for it we're... killing people in Iran and blowing up rockets trying to get to mars to satisfy the microdick dreams of a bullied billionaire in a midlife crisis. This to me is not a strong argument in favor of capitalism. It's addutionally undermined by the fact that finance is supposed to efficiently produce socially beneficial companies -- firms whose existence improves the lives of everyone. This isn't happening, is it? Yes, yes, I know -- it'll trickle down eventually. I don't want to wait another 45 years for the trickling to start. I don't think it's going to.
>>544129900By finding the remaining 53% and euthanizing them for severe mental retardation.
>>544134292Perhaps the government could fund such projects instead of individuals
>>544129900dont care, stupid people only learn through suffering if at all
>>544134439This is how it always turns out when the government tries
>>544129900I support communism just bc I want to see the rich die. Idc about anything else at this point.
>>544134292It's tripling/octupling the price of things truly "innovation" though? You don't need a genius or have money to implement the current strategy.
>>544129900Prove nudes are real
>>544132972No system works forever. Most of them fail for the same reason. Power will always concentrate into fewer and fewer hands. Everyone else experiences a worse quality of life. It’s not sustainable. Smart billionaires like Thiel are already moving out or have bunkers on some island.
>>544130691nerd throwing away his freedom for some ram kek goyim really are cattle
>>544134507I mean, it would also require us to have a competent government again. We used to do giant public infrastructure projects successfully all the time, just look at the US highway system or power grid. (Yes I am aware of the issues with the current power grid, but that's because we refuse to spend the money to modernize it, not because of the original rollout.)
>>544129900No shit when people can't afford shit and feel poor as fuck then tend to hate the system they are in
>>544129900>capitalismmajority of current western economy is centrally planned, built on fake money, insider trading, regulatory capture and the revolving door of large corporations and the state being almost one body.. plus certain tribe making everything 10x worse.If this is what we understand as "capitalism" then yes it sucks I guess.
>>544130535i dont buy shit anymore because the economy is fucked and the products are slop that are designed to fail
Capitalism? We live under corpo communism. Bailing out billionaire jews who are "too big to fail" isn't capitalism it's globohomo judaism. never forgive never forget how Obama had mandate to throw yids in to prison cells but he awarded them instead AND MAMDANI IS DOING THE SAME SHIT FELL FOR IT AGAIN AWARD
>>544134544the rich don't die. under communism, government officials become the rich ones, and they have all the guns, and you are their slave.Still want communism?
>>544129900Capitalism like freedom can be abused for the worse once malicious groups figure out the meta.Therefore, the best step is to restrain these subversive elements and create an atmosphere of fear against any who would follow their steps.Self-governance, voting, institutional position, full free market capitalism, and freedom can only be given to a people who are able to be responsible with it.Be wary of communism or full socialism however. The left source their power in the West through non-european grievances based on imperialistic exploitation. Some will try to pry off this non-european third worldism but that is what makes up much of their ranks. They don't view your relative prosperity as illegitimate. They lead a coalition that seeks to "correct" this systemic inequality by plundering groups (europeans) they see as imperial beneficiaries and delivering it to the historic lesser (women and non-europeans) in addition to the dysgenic, inefficient, lazy, mentally ill, etc. Their view is of blank slatism and that the disparity in outcomes to be a product of an imbalance of material conditions and cultural status. These retards think giving this redistribution to the lesser is enough to raise them to the same competency as western european men.In truth, they seek racial redistribution and will squander what's left of western prosperity. This is why a bit of socialism alone is not enough. You need nationalism to balance against these western marxists.In short, do not trust the political vision of the left as we revise capitalistic ideology.
>>544134793The Czar and his family did tho
>>544129900What's Donny gonna do
>>544134321>parents Sara Etel and Saul FriedmannWhat he conveniently forgot to mention: If the government enforces a limit of personal power, almost everyone becomes more free, and it is just at the expense of a few mentally ill people who cannot stop, ever. If you introduce a taxation wealth cap at highly comfortable retirement, summer house and yacht level, while enforcing taxation with exit and world taxes like some countries already do, and make wage slaving and land lording illegal like prostitution, you force people to create smaller automated business entities of the million to billion dollar scale. Everyone is forced to become an entrepreneur, held accountable by his neighbors due to the lack of power gap. At static point, this creates so much tax income and rich spending that it becomes easy to get the funding to get into a market, because there aren't any big inefficient corporations.>>544134292Have you worked in big corporations? Everyone tries to climb the hierarchy, the resulting power politics are opposed to good products. You can't have competition free big collectives either, they also unleash mental illness and selfish detrimental behavior.AI and robotics are a good example of this. The big corporations burn trillions, while most of it can be done with a few million, a bunch of Chinese crypto scammers showed this in the last few years. If we would not have the handful of big corporations capturing AI, there would be so much more different routes pushed to markets. Which is crucial in this case, because the current route of AI is "you vill own nothing and go extinct". The current economic systems and the advent of powerful chips brought people to the top who want to grab all power there is on this planet, power over everything. A system limiting power spreads solutions that are actually useful, because people aren't economically less fit than mentally ill freaks on power trips.
>>544129900pay more
>>544130026Modern America is already there>Money printers funnel all the money to the banks>Banks funnel all the money to fake businesses for billionaires>Entire thing is a debt bubble>So much of the population is in prison because there is no economic system for them to participate inAmerica is great if you are making bombs for Israel but anything other than that it is pretty grim.
>>544129900Everything has a central banks
>>544130535Doesn't the US spend the most on government in the world. Ironically the US is more socialist than a lot of commie countries.
>>544129900only way would be to make them realize that they live under socialism, not capitalism, but it's probably too late for that because the whole educational sector has been subverted long ago
>>544133879Why are you eating 6 months of worth of food in one day
>>544129900>how do we fix this.Build a time machine, go back 50+ years, don't listen to the Illuminati who control the global financial infrastructure and WALA! its fixed.Seriously, not that difficult.
>>544133805>dont try to make your home better! just move!nigger logic
>>544129900The funny thing is you wouldn't have a proletarian paradise under open borders. The Soviet Union had a very strict internal passport system and a rigidly controlled labour market. Employers of state enterprises couldn't just source cheap labour from elsewhere to get a comparative advantage with other state enterprises. With open borders, you are creating an artificial form of market competition between workers as the amount of jobs rapidly diminishes and are filled by forrins. In summary, these people are not even socialist, let alone Communist. They just hate White people. Not all of them, many are just naive and stupid, but a plurality probably do hate White people.
>>544129900nuke wall street>>544132305break them up and burn down the fire sector. return to the 1950's of george jetson cosmo spaceley henry orbit>>544134292>innovation these days needs exorbitant amounts of moneyreturn to the 1950's with cosmo spaceleys company as part of a supply chain. vertical integration is socialism
>>544135019>If you introduce a taxation wealth capYou mean arbitrarily steal all the money someone makes beyond a set limit rather than simply using a progressive taxation scale to tax wealthy people at an increasingly higher rate the more money they make?That's fucking stupid. It destroys any incentive to make wealth beyond the arbitrary cap and it creates a tyrannical system where in the state seizes your company if you're too successful.
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>>544129900>Unironically how do you fix this?people need to start getting laid
