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They shit and piss and fart themselves in extreme rage when you mention mass transit and expecially high speed rail.
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>>544134279
Can we turn this thread into an Indians getting hit by trains thread it would be really fucking funny
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>>544134279
>niggers
>niggers, on trains...
And OP is a memefag. Did someone ask for fine china?
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>>544134279
It reminds them that they can't have anything in common as a people, like transportation, because they don't really have anything in common as a people.
They just happen to collocate in the same economic area.
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>>544134279
Mass transit doesn't work in a place with niggers. It's just waste of tax payer money.
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>>544134279
mass transit is only economically sensible in sufficiently population-dense areas with plenty of stops with not too much distance aka time between stops. Hence why large cities in the US have each their own bus/train/subway system for travel within the city.
mass-transit for inter-city/interstate travel is handled by airlines because that is what naturally makes sense given the large distances involved. we have nationwide mass-transit, it's called airlines fucking idiot. literally a flying bullet train.
why dont europoors or asians acknowledge that airlines are mass transit? why do they conveniently ignore this form of travel when criticizing the usa for supposedly having no mass transit?
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>>544135662
HSR is 10 times less carbon intensive
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>>544135662
Listen, buddy. You love the mighty flying metal bird. It goes zoom, it has jet engines, and it touches the clouds. It is awesome.
But airplanes are giant liars about how fast they actually get you somewhere.
Think about a standard plane trip. To fly for just one hour, you have to:
Drive an hour to the giant airport out in the middle of nowhere.
Show up two hours early just to take off your shoes and let a guy look at your socks.
Sit on the runway for 30 minutes while three other planes cut in line.
Fly fast, land, and then stand by a spinning rubber belt for 45 minutes waiting for your suitcase.
That is four or five whole hours of your life gone, just for a one-hour flight.
Now look at the sleek bullet train. You hate trains, I get it, you think they are slow metal caterpillars. But watch the magic trick:
You walk into a train station right in the middle of the downtown city just 10 minutes before it leaves.
You flash a ticket, walk right onto the train, and sit down. No shoe removal. No liquid checks.
The train goes zoom across the ground at 200 miles an hour.
It drops you off right in the middle of the other city. You stand up and walk straight out the door into the street. No baggage claim.
The train itself is slower than a jet in the air, sure. But because you completely skip the two-hour airport prison, the security lines, and the baggage wait, you arrive at your final destination hours faster. The plane is faster in the sky, but the train wins the whole race because it doesn't waste your day playing airport games.
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>>544135683
Stop posting videos where the jeet survives
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>>544135738
By gum you're right, traveling by train is far too unsafe, we'll have to construct acres of bureaucratic bullshit to make sure nobody slips some saarin gas aboard. Good work Anon!
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>>544135697
>moving the goal-post
so you admit we do in fact have nationwide mass transit, got it.
>less carbon intensive
and also far slower thus rendering it economically inviable given the current state of things. people choose flights based on price and travel time not carbon emissions.
>>544135738
it takes me 10 minutes to get to my city's airport and i have tsa-precheck. i can also take the city bus to the airport if i wish. i also travel with a backpack and never check luggage because im not a boomer. so the experience you have described doesn't reflect my personal experience sorry
>you hate trains
nope, i actually love them. my love for trains began when i first visited japan in 2019. i just hate when people personally favor a particular technology so they blindly call it superior while ignoring the economic and practical reasons why other technologies like flight are used instead.
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>>544134279
Ironically, shitskins piss and shit and fart on mass transit and that's why we try to avoid it.
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>>544135955
Listen, big guy. Planes are flying magic tubes, but they are like private VIP limousines for everyone, not true mass transit.
Think about a city bus or a subway train. They are like a giant conveyor belt. They stop at every single corner, scoop up whoever is standing there, drop them off down the road, turn around, and do it again all day long. They move everybody.
Planes don't do that. A plane is like a custom rocket ship built to fly a very long distance between two giant, expensive fortresses called airports. You can't just flag down a Boeing 737 on Main Street and hop in. You have to drive all the way to the special airport compound, buy a ticket specifically for that one long trip, and pass through a fortress gate.
Mass transit means anyone can jump on and off easily all day to get around town. Planes are just long-distance flying buses that require a giant runway parking lot and a security check every single time you want to move.
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>>544135845
Imagine if this was at full speed. I don't think that i have seen any train and heavy truck collisions at full speed.
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>>544135961
>is content with having his public spaces in a horrendous shitted up state
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>>544135955
Alright, let's break this down real simple like. Imagine you have to haul 500 heavy, snack-eating humans for a few hundred miles.
Here is why the high-speed train does it way cheaper for every single kilometer traveled than a big flying jet:
1. The Sky Has Bad Traction (Air Resistance)
Planes have to use massive jet engines to fight air resistance at 500 miles per hour while also constantly pushing hard enough not to drop out of the sky.
A high-speed train sits on smooth metal rails. Smooth steel wheels rolling on smooth steel track takes almost zero effort to keep moving. The train only fights a little bit of wind, while the plane is fighting gravity and the air with full force every single second.
2. Jet Fuel is Like Liquid Gold
Planes drink super fancy, hyper-expensive rocket-like fuel. They burn thousands of gallons just revving up their engines and climbing up into the clouds before they even get to cruise.
High-speed trains just plug into an electric grid using a metal stick on the roof. Electricity from power plants is dirt cheap compared to barrels of refined jet kerosene.
3. The Train Holds a Whole Village
A standard passenger plane carries around 150 to 200 people.
A high-speed bullet train can easily be as long as two football fields and carry 1,000 to 1,300 people at the exact same time.
Because you spread the cost of the driver, the electric bill, and the ride across 1,000 people instead of 150, every single kilometer ends up costing way less per person.
4. Trains Don't Use "Throwaway" Engine Parts
Jet engines operate at crazy high temperatures and brutal forces, meaning airplane mechanics have to inspect, take apart, and replace super expensive parts constantly to keep the plane from falling out of the sky.
Electric train motors are much simpler. They don't have thousands of tiny explosion chambers. They just spin, stop, and keep spinning for decades with basic maintenance.
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>>544135955
Cont.

Summary:
A plane is a small, expensive metal tube burning super-expensive fluid to fight gravity. A high-speed train is a giant electric snake gliding smoothly over steel, carrying way more people on cheap electricity. Per kilometer, the train is a total cheapskate in the best way possible.
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>>544135829
Here the train actually does look like a hungry predator eating it's prey
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>>544134279
They cope by mentioning they have air travel, while conveniently ignoring that US airport security is a humiliation ritual and that airports are located at least 30 minutes away by car from where you actually need to go.
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>>544136110
The american just loves wasting his money on overpriced inefficient transportation.
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>>544135662
Air travel isn't real mass transit, the entire US domestic air service handles less passengers than one large metro system, it's similar in size to something like Tehran metro system. More importantly this justification falls entirely flat because everyone else also has air travel AND rail. Rail is just significantly faster and more convenient in medium distance travel and US has plenty of areas where that should be the case but just isn't. Take something like Richmond to Norfolk, 2 cities less than 150km from each other with million people each. I get 4 departures for monday on amtracks site each taking almost 3h one almost 4h for a trip that should be like 1.5h max. Take a similar route here between 2 tier 2 cities with a similar distance but significantly fewer people (because we don't even have more than million anywhere except Helsinki) like Tampere and Turku and that's 11 departures taking 1h 45 mins and our trains suck ass. Okayama to Hiroshima? 34 minutes travel departing every 10 to 20 minutes all day every day.
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>>544136208
Losing a limb isn't always deadly. I think he will be fine.
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>>544136280
And the east half of the usa is where most of the people live. It's also mostly very flat so building trains there shouldn't be difficult logistically.
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>>544136110
>Here is why the high-speed train does it way cheaper for every single kilometer traveled than a big flying jet.
It costs more to travel from the southern tip of England to the northern tip of Scotland by train than it costs to fly around the world.
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>>544136466
That statement is false because it vasty overstates the cost of a UK train trip while underestimating the cost of global air travel.
1. The Real Cost of the Train Journey
Traveling from the southern tip of England (Penzance, near Land's End) to the northern tip of Scotland (Wick or Thurso, near John o' Groats) is one of the longest continuous train routes in the UK, covering roughly 600 to 700 miles.
Standard Tickets: A standard, flexible, on-the-day single ticket usually costs between £180 and £300 ($230 to $390 USD).
Advance Booking: If booked a few weeks in advance, standard fares can drop to around £100 to £180.
Worst-Case Fare: Even if someone bought a last-minute, peak-time First Class ticket across multiple separate operator lines, the total cost would top out around £500 to £800 ($650 to $1,000 USD).
2. The Real Cost of Flying Around the World
Circumnavigating the globe requires traveling at least ~25,000 miles across multiple oceans and continents.
Round-the-World (RTW) Tickets: Multi-stop round-the-world tickets booked through airline alliances (like Star Alliance or Oneworld) or specialist agencies generally start at $2,500 to $4,500 USD (£1,900 to £3,500) for basic economy routing, with prices easily scaling past $8,000+ depending on season and stops.
Low-Cost Flight Chaining: Even if a traveler attempted to string together cheap, bare-bones, one-way flights on budget airlines heading strictly in one direction around the globe, taxes, fees, baggage costs, and ocean-crossing legs (e.g., transatlantic and transpacific flights) push the absolute minimum cost to roughly $1,200 to $1,800 USD (£900 to £1,400).
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>>544135648
Fortunately there was a donkey cart ambulance nearby.
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>>544135889
I love how the filmer didn't warn him.
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>>544134279
For the Amerimutt regime its easier to justify passport surveillance, no-flight lists and anal probes on flights than for trains and for Amerimutt corporations its easier to sell premium services on planes where people a accustomed to have flight attendants and easier to sell their hunk cars if there is no alternative around, so you have a broad lobby trying to prevent freedom of travel in muttmerica down to bots just constantly repeating straight out lies about costs and transport volumes.
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>>544136564
This poster is retarded because he can't write for himself
1. Using grok as a substitute for your own writing
You're dumb: self evident
You're stupid: also self evident
You're illiterate: you guessed it, self evident
2. There is no 2. You're a dumbass

tl;dr kill yourself streetshitting faggot
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>>544135955
>people choose transport based on price and travel so I specifically ignore these factors to make irrational claims about air travel and trains
>I lie about how much time I need to get to an airport, so you cant use real people travel time to an airport alone
>I spend hours to have a precheck for airtravel no you cant that time as time wasted on airtravel prechecks, also you cant count the 10-30 minutes I still have to wait in the precheck fast track line to check my precheck because I didnt mention them intentionally
>I limit myself to no baggage, so you cant use people with baggage to measure anything anymore
>my love for trains began when i first visited japan
>i just hate when people personally favor a particular technology
>while ignoring the economic and practical reasons
Why are you lying so boldly? Deep in the red stock portfolio in Boeing and SpaceShit?
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>>544139484
Why Buses and Trains Are Helpful!
Less Traffic: When lots of people ride the bus, there are fewer cars on the road. That helps your car go fast!
Saves Money: Buying gas for a car costs a lot of pennies. Buses help people save their money!
Helps People Go to Work: Buses take workers to work and families to the store.
More Ways to Travel: You can drive a car OR ride a bus. It is fun to have choices!
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>>544139484
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Okay, sweetie. Put your listening ears on. I know you hate trains. That’s a big feeling for a tiny person. But we are going to use our big-kid brain now.

High-speed rail is a train. It goes zoom. Not slow zoom. Super-duper zoom. It takes lots of people at one time. Like a big bus, but it doesn’t get stuck in the same traffic as cars.

Why is that good? Because if all those people sit on the fast train, they are not in cars. Fewer cars means less beep-beep traffic. Less traffic means you get where you’re going. Yes, even you.

Also, cars make dirty air. A train with many people can make less dirty air for each person. That helps lungs. Lungs are the things you need for breathing. You like breathing, right? Good job.

You don’t have to drive. You can sit. You can nap. You can eat a snack. You can look out the window. You can not yell at other cars. See? Useful.

Some people can’t drive. Some are too old. Some are too young. Some don’t have a car. The fast train helps them go to work, the doctor, or grandma’s house. That is good for everybody.

Towns with train stations get more people. More people buy things. More shops open. More jobs happen. That is a big-kid word: jobs. It means money for food and toys.

You can hate trains. You can stomp your little foot. But hating something does not make it not useful. You hate broccoli, but broccoli still helps your tummy. Same thing.

So high-speed rail is useful. It is not asking you to love it. It is asking you to share the road and let grown-ups build it. Now wipe your nose and say, “Okay, I understand.”



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