I'm just going to leave this here
simultaneously we wuz turkic steppe warriors, but also we wuz ancient greeks and romans and uh hittites and emperors and stuffkeep it up and you'll be able to schizomog macedonia in a year
>>544155657>27 bc - 1453 ce
>>544155657>Byzantine Empire is Roman because they called themselves RomansI hope this bullshit dies soon
>>544155904everyone called them romans. we called them romans throughout its entire existence"byzantine" is made up copeslop by the west
>>544155657Those were literally Greeks. The steppe nomads that you take your flag and namesake from were still where they belonged.
>>544155657>Constantinople>TurkeyBut there is no city in Turkey named Constantinople.
>>544156156Also where are the other 33 Constantinoples?
>>544155960The Empire split and the Western Roman still existed, so they were no longer Roman but Byzantine. Are Romanians Romans too? After all, that's where they same comes from.
>>544155960This. The term "byzantine empire" was invented by 19th century historians. "byzantines" called themselves roman, as did every other country of the era.
>>544156242here is our emperor, the byzantine-slayerhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaloyan_of_Bulgaria
>>544155657there was no Turkey nor Turkish blood in those lands when those emperors were born
>>544156242>they were no longer Roman but ByzantineKek, that term was invented 400 years after eastern rome collapsed.
>>544155657MARCH OF THE TITANS
>WE WUZ ROMAYou will never be a real Roman. You have no consuls, you have no Latins, you have no Rome. You are a Greek man twisted by LARPs and historical accident into a crude mockery of Jupiter’s perfection.All the “validation” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back people mock you. Your ancestors are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “fellow Christians” laugh at your trinitarian theology behind closed doors.Historians are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of historiography have allowed historians to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even Byzantines who “pass” look uncanny and unnatural to a historian. Your government structure is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a drunk historian to call you Roman, he’ll turn tail and retract the second he hears your slurred Greek language.You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile every single morning and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight.Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll stop paying tribute to the Turks, sit behind your walls, have one last service in the Hagia Sophia, and wait for the merciful coup de grace. Your posterity will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. They’ll record your history with a historiographical term derived from your capital city, and every tourist for the rest of eternity will know a Greek kingdom is buried there. Your artifacts will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is an archaeology that is unmistakably Greek.This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.
>>544156481followed by...........
>>544155657The turks were banging rocks together in central Asia when that happened
Rome is kino
>>544156536>your “fellow Christians” laugh at your trinitarian theology behind closed doors.Why would you invlude this in the pasta twist when Romans had their own native pantheon, one that was part of their cultural canon throughout pretty much the entirety of their golden age?
>>544155657you less than human fucking cockroach, you know nothing about anything. the entire Anatolian peninsula was Greek. Everyone there was Greek, all the buildings were Greek, all the cities were Greek, and it was a beautiful place. then you sand people showed up and destroyed everything and killed everyone and raped every child you could. you killed millions of innocent Greek people, colonized the peninsula, and then renamed it after a fucking bird, because you know everyone who lives their now has the same amount of brain cells as a bird of prey. All of you deserve to die. the only reason why you didn't get invaded and broken up to make way for Kurdistan yet is you slimy bugs weaseled your way into NATO, but that's not going to matter soon, and you're going to get fucking crushed.
>>544155784The Sultan who conquered Constantinople took the title of "Emperor of Rome".
>>544155657where does one even start breaking down the stupidity you've implied
>>544156156Istanbul means "Into Constantinople" >>544156324The vast majority of modern Turkey is native Anatolians, the same people from the Roman and Greek era. The amount of actual Turkic genes in modern Turkey is small because the Turks who formed the Ottoman empire were a ruling minority. They never did a population replacement, the same people still live there.
>>544159738it's not even that. this includes later roman empire stages, where all the power was concentrated in constantinople and where as u can see 34 of the emperors claimed for "t*rkey" were born. when excluding currently turkish-occupied thracia and only looking at anatolia, it's only 19. and this isn't even to mention that turks weren't even in anatolia until 800 yrs after the fall of rome
>>544159872no it means "into the city". -bul comes from -pol which is city in greek.
>>544159872Think of it this way, the Normans conquered and ruled England, but they never replaced the natives. Same thing happened in Turkey.
>Unknown: 60you know what THAT means
>>544160061Sureee. I'm sure all the plagues and wiped out cities had little effect.The old anatolian lanuaguages are dead by the way. Not one survived. Last was lycian I think. These people were annihilated.
>>544155657Turks are not native to that region, just like how most Americans are not native to the Americas.
counting constantinople is cheating
>>544155904>Roman Empire is Roman because they called themselves RomansI hope this bullshit dies soon
>>544160219>Last was lycian I thinkNot the last, just one of many groups. The Lycians predate Rome. The Anatolians were there under Rome and native Anatolian DNA makes up the majority of the Turkish gene pool today. There's DNA analysis confirming this.
>>544156242Spanish, Italians, Turks, Romanians and Moldovans have one thing in common. They are all dishonest pick-pockets, scammers, liars and cheats.
>>544160262Vast majority of the Turkish population has no or little actual Turkic DNA.
>>544160333You think your goint to win people over with facts you massive faggot. Go fuck yourself.
>>544160419and yet they don't speak the same language, don't follow the same religion, don't have the same culture, and identify as Central Asian steppe Mongoloids. What good are "majority" Anatolian genes if they identify as the greatest enemy Anatolia ever faced?
>>544155657
>>544159872>Istanbul means "Into Constantinople"idk sounds kinda bullshit but even if it weren't, "into City" is not the same as "city". Yeah the city I live in is right on the road into Vilnius, that does not mean that it is Vilnius, doofus.
>>544155657And? Being under Rome is a curse.
>>544155657yes. turkey used to be greek. it is not any more and you hold no relation to the roman or byzantine emperors
>>544161182the point is that constantinople was such a dominant city compared to its neighbourhood that the locals for centuries simply called it "the city"istanbul is a turkish twist on how the greeks pronounced it, i think it was eis tin polis? or something like that
>>544161858And the point is that "Istanbul" is not "Constantinople" so why is the latter attributed to Turks despite not existing in Turkey?
>>544161922are you mentally handicapped? they changed the name of the city
>>544155657At time of Byzantium (East-Rome) you Turkish not even exists. You are not relatives for those people in past times.
>>544161979>they changed thr name of the cityWhy?
>>544162051because we own the city.
>>544162236>the cityThe city being Istanbul. All those emperors were born in Constantinople. Sorry for your inability to read. Hope you get well soon.
>>544162236Islam is so cringe and gay
>>544155657>1453CE>RomanWe really doing this?
>>544162236>tfw the holy sophia is now a mosque againatatürk would not have approved. he actually tried to steer that hopeless nation towards a more secular, civilized, western future, but the sand worship roots were too strong
