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Why don’t Vladimir and volodomyr just exchange a firm handshake and call it a draw?
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Putin would be hanged the day after
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>>544203886
It'd be massively embarrassing for Putin if, after all this time, his invasion of Ukraine only emboldened NATO while weakening Russia. He has to at the very least get a territorial concession of some kind.
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>>544203886
That’ll be $50 plus tip, Dad.
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>>544203886
because bunker cuck putin has refused many many times to even meet zelensky face to face
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>>544203886
In Ukraine, they wanted a president like Putin

Former Verkhovna Rada deputy Igor Mosiychuk (listed as a terrorist and extremist by Rosfinmonitoring) said in a conversation with journalist Alexander Shelest (listed by the Russian Ministry of Justice as a foreign agent) that he would like Ukraine to be led by a politician similar to Russian President Vladimir Putin.

He noted that although the Russian leader is the president of a country with which Ukraine is in conflict, he is guided by the interests of the Russian Federation, and one must negotiate with him.

"I assess him as a pragmatist, as a leader of a country who acts in the interests of his country. And I would very much like Ukraine to be led by a similar politician who would be guided by Ukraine's interests," Mosiychuk said.

Earlier, the former Rada deputy said that the current president of Ukraine, Vladimir Zelensky, is aware of the destructive consequences of military actions for the country but continues them in order to obtain financial gain.
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Ukraine lost something like 30% of its territory

Putin leaves Zelensky alive because he’s a terrible leader who is ruining the country

They have gained back 0% of the territory despite the cope maps

Russia is losing 1% of the soldiers

Why would Putin agree to any peace? The whole war started because they were moving nukes through Ukraine.
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>>544204057
Look Zelensky being the worst kind of right wing government you can get doesn't mean is exactly what they want for our countries
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>>544203886

because Ukraine is losing and has been for years .. Russian dignity will settle for no less than the conditions set out at the beginning of the conflict, Crimea and the Donbas and no NATO or EU in Ukraine.
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>>544203886
Because Volodomyr refused to shake a hand when he had the chance, now the only option is capitulation
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>>544203886
>You wont be carrying a calculator everywhere, will you now?

Ukraine has no winning moves. All russia has to do is... wait.
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>>544203886
Draw won't solve anything, it will only give Ukraine time to rearm, get its conscription system in order, potentially deport able-bodied men from Europe, and ask for more money. For lasting peace they must recognize Russia's rights to Crimea and other territories as well as their own neutrality which in their eyes looks like capitulation which is not far from the truth. All other demands you may have heard about are secondary and can be negotiated



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