So are gaming PCs off limits now or what?This isn't sustainable
>>544219411That card is not made for gaming
>>544219411I got a 5090 when it was $2000
Use ur trump buxs to buy out all the 5090s and crash the AI gay economy
Stop playing video games
>>544219411Incel retard cope hobby
>>544219541It wasn’t 32GB vram
>>544219411You vill rent a GPU and be happy
>>544219411Why do you need 5090 though? 5080 or used 4090 will run anything in 4k without consuming 1.21 GW per hour and inevitably exploding within months.
>>544219411No, they are rug pulling retards investing into data centers, eventually people will not want to game at all anymore and once data centers eventually die due to lack of electrical production and water, chip makers will beg gamers to buy their shit again at 50%, I don't want you faggots to take the bait, we are going to wait for a 90% discount like a hive mind, don't be a traitor (this will happen before 2030)
>>544219411I dunno I got my 7900XTX in 2022 for $900 and couldn't be happier.
>>544219411you are not gayming if you need 5090
>>544219411>5090Just get a 5060 retard. "I CANT DRIVE EVER AGAIN! LAMBORGHINIS ARE TOO EXPENSIVE" Consoomer logic.
>>544219411Just get an AMD card. They have better image quality.
>>544219709USPs are pieces of shit.
>>544219411my motherboard doesn't support this
A 5060ti 16gb or a 5070 is more than enough if you don't go above 1440p
>>544219798You are retarded
>>544219809Damn bro is on legacy pci what the hell :skull:
>>544219798USP's are probably top 5 handguns ever made.
>>544219411They’ve been telling you for years that they dont want you gaming. Maybe you’re a little slow
>>544219411you can just look elsewhere
>>544219669>Why do you need 5090 though?local AI
>>544219411>kill gaming>kill pornwhat's the endgame?
still slumming on a 2070 super
someone fears the backyard data center ai developer
4080 here. My card runs everything
>>544219411>this isn't sustainable>tries to buy a card to run 4k gamingnigga just buy a mid tier card and run 1440p you literally don't notice the difference retard.
>>544219411>you vill own notzink>und you vill rent ze thin client
>>544220092They think they'll have their trad utopia but they're just going to be hung with the leftistsAlso OP, my 1080 can run Stellar Blade just fine, go buy a used card
>>544220342They fear cluster computing
>>544220081>at least an 8 yo cpu>gt 730 >ddr4 >win 11a better deal would be nigger-rigging a dell optiplex with an external gpu lmfao
>>544220129Still a decent card that will run VR in a lot of games, I used it in my old sim racing rig
>>544219411Own nothing be happy etcI for one eagerly await a return to low graphics kino.
>>544219411Are there any good games that need it? Or any games at all?
>>544220086There are cheaper ways. Models that offload to system ram and use mixture of experts or something similar to know what part of the model to use ahead of time.
Are you all retarded or something?
>>544220507
>>544219411touch grass you fucking faggot
>>544219411only idiots buy top of the line video cards
>>544219824A 5070 is perfectly fine doing 4k.
>>544219411You thought they were joking about you owning nothing?
>>5442201291060 lets go
>>5442205732slow
>>544219798Cry more lmao
>>544219411My 2070 super plays the games I play just fine and I bought it just after it was new for 400 dollars, the same one refurbished is still going for about 400 dollars.
>>544219411you can rent gaming time off geforce now so you will own nothing and be happy bless trump and israel
>>544219411Is this the last change to get a GPU so I can run local AI and not fall behind? Will prices come down again? Or only keep rising as society is split into those that will own nothing and be miserable and those that can run their own AIs and mog the miserable own nothings with their god like knowledge?
>>544220420>just buy a mid tier card and run 1440p you literally don't notice the differenceI just bought my first gaming laptop a month ago (5080). Never had 4k gaming before. It makes a huge difference imo
>>544219999QUADS CONFIRMS!!!!
Why do I still have to say this?You will own nothing and you WILL (that is an order) be happy.
>>544219505You're a retarded faggot
>>5442197595060 is shit.
>>544220086>local AIYou can get 4 x 3090 for the price of a new 5090, that's 3 x more VRAM.
>>544219411Still rocking a 3060ti from 2021. It still runs new games at high to ultra settings. You don't need the newest cards to still play on PC. Only a sheep consoooomer with FOMO thinks that.
>>544221139It’s not that bad just watch a few adverts and play for a few hours for free. Obviously not long term but I’m going to wait out the memory shortage and save my money for next gen.
>>544221614if memory becomes cheaper they cant rent it instead so memory is not going to become cheaper
I have a 1070 ti I got for $50 and it still plays literally everything just fine
They are trying to price you out so you'll rent compute from the cloud for $20 a month instead of playing games on your own computer
>>544219411If you don't buy it now at $7600 then you won't be able to resell it at $34 000!!!!
>>544219411it's crazy. my 3060ti is more expensive now than when i bought it in 2023. if mine ever fails i'm just gonna stop gaming i guess.
>>544221973That is a massively stupid gambit if you actually thought it through.
>>544219607release day astral 5090 is 32 gig - it's sitting in my pc right now
>>544219411there are no games these days, who cares
>>544221973This is stupid, nobody likes the new games and there are more than enough older computers floating around, consoles too.
Gamers are the canary in the coal mine>rise up!kek
>>544222348They will get to spy on everything you do
You can get an 11 gig 1080ti for a couple hundred bucks, run parallel if you really want a system.
>>544220874I mean yeah if you use dlss performance, and looks great
>>544221432No YOU are a retarded faggot. They're even discontinuing the 5090 which will also make it more expensive.
>>544221614>It’s not that bad just watch a few adverts and play for a few hours for freekys
All of these hardware reviewers won't have channels in 5 years because their audience is too poor lol
>>544221969>1070 ti>and it still plays literally everything just fine>literally everything>just fineNo it doesn't, that card is 10 years old, fuck off.>>544221973This.>>544222348Yes but the greedy memory kikes are trying anyway.>>544222444The memory kikes don't give a shit if you like games anymore, they want to control all compute and they don't want you competing with your own local models.
>>544222677>too poorThey were priced out of the market by greedy kikes.This whole abominable intelligence scam will implode eventually. It's very similar to what Enron was doing, the circle jerk of financing trick.Nvidia has more IOUs than actual cash on hand at this point.
>>544222460Okay but again. You don't understand the gambit being claimed.
>>544219770RX580 can still run most anything worth playing
>>544222851I understand more than you do
>>544223035How is google stadia doing?
>>544219669>PicBack in 2003 we were hunting for every single extra FPS to play Morrowind, 30 FPS was considered gold standard.
Yes>WHY?!Because you only protest niggers earning Darwin awards and never stop sucking corpo cock when they outsource all white people inventions to the chink cartels>butYou will own nothing and they won't sell to you in the future, you will rent your compute from the pod
>>544223226Alive and well, same as Charlie Kirk!
>>544219411GoodSick of you cheating PC faggots fagging up every game ever
>>544223864You say this as if consoles aren't outrageously expensive now too. And for what. 30fps... in 2026.
>>544221577>SLI>2026
>>544222686Yes it does my fps is fine on 1080p
RX 6600 eagle bought at £200 cant complain
>>544223968The best part is this https://github.com/boykopovar/AnyPS5Soon all PS5-PS6 games will run natively on a mid-tier PC.
>>544224010Well another way to get 96 VRAM is RTX PRO 6000 and that is like $20k if you are lucky to find one.
Saying you need a 5090 to play games is like saying you need a GTX-Titan to play games when a GTX-770 got the job done perfectly fine.
You can get a 5070ti for only $1200, add a 7800x3d and 16gb ram and you aren't even cracking $2k for a pc
>>544219411You dont need a fucking 5090 just for gaming dude
>>544224674you NEED a 5090 for AI
>>544219411Who needs physical compute at home when you can buy it like water or electricity from a meter and have it piped in via the internet? It should be a resource where you pay-as-you-go.
>>544219411evenutally yes, to be followed a while later by consoles. game streaming will be back with a vengeance, they'll invent some ai-powered way to cover up the input delay.
Nvidia said they're discontinuing the rtx 5090 because of memory shortage, it will probably never be made again so the last cards are being bought out at outrageous prices.I hope one day gaming PCs will be affordable again.
Its expensive for aiAnd its going to be like a car later onYou'll need it for work for social life for everythingDidnt get your ai? Its like how boomers didnt immediately learn all about computers and code in the 80s and 90s only be super work barnicles onward that no one helped
>>544224010You don’t use SLI to set up local AI, retard. You VRAM pool and/or split the workload for the AI processes between the cards. SLI was for 3D graphics rendering and mirrored VRAM and it sucked cock.
>>544219411holy shit its bad
i'll let you into a little secret;3 or 4 year old 16gb GPUs still run the latest games at max settings
>>544226579not at 4K resolution 144hz with gaytracing you do game at 4K right?
>>544224109What's the newest game you've played on it? Maybe reducing the resolution to blurry bullshit and playing everything on the absolute minimum settings, but you aren't playing anything modern on that fossil. AT least you're not enjoying good framerates and fidelity while doing it.
>>544226691I game at 240p on a trinitron.
>>544219411>>544220556>>544222408all this just to play the new video games like tranny coded, female produced, Gears of War or Halo remake in 4K anyway. WOW GUYS
>>544219759>product quadruples in price within 1 year then gets repurposed away from its intended use within the consumer marketplace >'why are you even complaining? you dont need the top of the line product, goy!!'fucking faggot nigger
>>544219411I predicted it years age when I asked myself why don't the companies that produce space aylium tier hardware don't just form a cartel and force the goyim to depend on cloudshit type shi but seeing it become real is niggerlicious
>>544224674You do for VR gaming
>>544219411>nowNever been affordable since crypto kicked in
>>544219411You could use a 5090 for gaming but you don't really need it, a 5070Ti with 16GB will do but even this GPU has become painfully expensive. I got my Zotac Solid OC for ~€900 now it's ~€2,000 if you can even find it. Cheaper, rather crappy models go for €1,250 here.
>>544219999Hell yeah, I own a 40 and a 45
>>544219505ThisFor gaymers, you don't need anything beyond 3090, everything else is a bloat, go after stupid game dev to optimize their shit instead
>>544220086Why do you "need" local AI though?You don't.
>>544220086And then you render disgusting deformed chinksects? Fucking hell neck yourself.
>>544219411>sustainablefor you.and that's the main problem.they do not want nor need your business any longer.
>>544220086> local AIThey really need to come out with desktop AI console so you don’t have to overbuild a PC to do local multimedia AI generation.
>>544219411you can get a 4090 prebuilt for half that
>>544228131>>544228187poorfag cope
>>544219704>beg gamers to buy their shit again at 50%which is still an 1.5x increase from launch MSRP kekekekeke
I got a brand new 4080ti for 300 dollars.
>>544220081is this an insult?
>>544220556> Or any games at all?Control ResonantOnimushaAtomfallSILENT HILL: TownfallDune AwakeningDawnwalkerThe Witcher Remastered
>>544219411>32gb of VRAMAfter you go over like 16 gb of VRAM the price of the card quadrupled because Nvidia wants to artificially separate the commercial and private markets. Really there is no reason for that card to cost 8 thousand dollars it's only that much because there are only a handful of gpu producers and they want to fleece as much money as possible out of people.
>>544221149>Will prices come down again?if there is only the SLIGHTEST inkling that prices would fall in the foreseeable future,nvidia would simply declare the GeForce RTX 50 series EOL and stop producing them.then come out with a limited production (ie artificial scarcity) run of its successor series and retards (like (You)) would sperg out and go into debt for to buy.
>>544228457its funny you mention artificial inflation because the original GPU inflation issue was crypto miners ultimately thats the issue here, crypto miners are buying an increasingly smaller share of consumer graphics cards >retards think Claude is running on 5090sit isnt, the manufacturers have just spooled down production of consumer cards in favor of AI profits so cryptotards are inflating the top end
>>544228558>artificial scarcityThat's commie talk boy, the card magically becoming 4x more expensive after adding 1 more gb of vram is just the free market working as intended.
>>544220086> Local AIFor LLMs, just get two $800 5060 Ti 16G cards and a mobo that can hold both and supports 8/8 PCIe bifurcation. You can then run 32G LLMs via layering. Not blazing fast, but fast enough for local use.Layering doesn't work for stable diffusion though, at least not with existing models. The hardware crunch has triggered a lot of active innovation in that area though.Don't assume any GPUs will continue to be available at current prices into 2027 though.
>>544228252No, but they'll offer a subscription for all your (not local) AI needs you can purchase on your leased thin client...
>>544228653thats the promise of crypto my friend!
>>544228558So what, buy now, wait, or abandon all hope?
>gtx 1080 ti $140 on ebaybe smart with your purchases and you can live like a king
>>544228720See>>544228660And yes buy now, or wait until mid-2028.
I've downloaded over 100 hours worth of Brittany Venti live streams. Do you think that is enough to train a local AI model? I'm trying to create my based 4chan gf.
>>544228720>So what, buy now, wait, or abandon all hope?That's anybody's guess, honestly.Over the past year or two, whose "AI predictions" have really been somewhat accurate?So far it's been only the doomers that got it right. But doomers doom for doom's sake.
>>544228611Commercial doesn't just mean AI. That includes crypto miners and other professional/business use cases.>>544228611>manufacturers have just spooled down production of consumer cards in favor of AI profits so cryptotards are inflating the top endProbably true
>>544219411>he doesn’t know 5000-series was last consumer GPU series that increased VRAM across the board. 6000-series consumer line may never release, but if it does, it’ll just be an upgraded architecture, no VRAM increase card to card. You will lease a card for streaming from a data center. If you didn’t buy a 32 GB 5090 a year ago you fucked up.
>>544228252The end goal (that AI companies don’t want but is inevitable m) is it will be as ubiquitous and free as email Back in the day one of the biggest drivers of the dotcom bubble was useless email providers and the hardware companies selling the shovels, were in the exact same situation Email DID wind up changing the way the world works, but it’s ultimately a free service curated by a couple providers That’s the road AI is going down
>>544228275You're paying thousands of dollars to generate porn. Which you can get for the cost of an ISP subscription by the truckload and faster by just downloading porn from the internet.Do you own a house or cars, with zero debt?
>>544228842I mean thats literally it, thats exactly what’s happening nvidia is the biggest company on earth because theyre selling shovels during a gold rush, the only problem is that the inevitable end goal is there is no gold rushits exactly what happened with the internet in the 90s and early 2000s, they built in insane amount of infrastructure to provide for software companies that still hasnt been filled out
>>544228909I'm a billionaire I can do what I want.
>>544221973I VILL NOT PLAY GAMES IN ZE CLOUDTHEY'LL SPY ON EVERYTHING YOU DO AND THERE WILL BE TONS OF ADS AND THE AI NPCS WILL TRY TO SELL YOU SHITAND THEN THEY'LL USE YOUR BEHAVIOR TO TRAIN THE AI AND TURN YOU INTO AN NPCI VILL NOT BECOME AN NPCAAAHHHI WILL PLAY PLAY OLD VIDYAS ON MY OWN COMPUTER
>>544221149>Is this the last change to get a GPUThe AI bubble will implode this winter when the energy and food shortages hit and central banks are forced to raise rates. This will also force the UK government into a default meaning that you will have to live action role play that world war Z movie but with pakis and nogs instead of zombies. How fast and for how long can you run?You will have your gpus in the future once the chinks sort out their own designs. Nvidia and AMD are ripe for being crushed because they have artificially gimped their own designs and segmented the market in order to extract the maximum amount of profit.
Should I buy a 9070 XT for $950? I was gonna buy on prime day for $790 and the next day it went up...
>>544228275Mate I can download 500TB of porn without ever having to look at a disgusting chinksect for free even with the basic free 200mbit line every swiss gets as a public service.What the hell is wrong with you freak?
>>544229015to add, its why companies like Apple both went to their own proprietary silicon and havent hopped onto the AI train They know this shit is ultimately transformative but not profitable, so theyre building a separate hardware skew to run it and on top of that standard PC hardware has EXCEEDED their “gauged” costs, so they are set to be the bedrock of the inevitable collapse
>>544219411a 5090 would last you about 6-7 years,. longer if you're nmot a 4k faggotSo it's still easily sustainableEven if it was let's say, 14000 total for a new pc, that's what 2000 a year?That's 40 bucks a weekYou can easily fucking afford that shit
>>544219759>single digit VRAMlollmao even
>>544222365That was never 2k. Astral was like 3.5
>>544229103Well you could be. I guess that's better that buying and selling real humans for sick perverted reasons. Still, it's a waste of time when you can just get free shit online MUCH FASTER. Time is money, and you can't buy it back.
>>544219759Basically this. You retards are looking at this shit and going to drive yourselves crazy. The higher end cards are for people that can fucking afford to drop serious cash on them, ie, non-white people like me that have a job that pays ACTUAL money.You're white. You should settle for lower end cards and let the rest of us worry about the higher cards and their prices. Pigskins should stick to pre-built.
To wit, a 5090 GPU is not a consumer graphics card its a trap to milk cryptotards for all they are worth, the top end graphics card for consumers is the 4090 and then the 5080 and the 4080ti that is by design use your fucking head
>>544229232its not about quantityare you that swiss pajeet?
>>544219411>So are gaming PCs off limits now or what?yep, and you will eat the bugs soon
>>544228892So you’re saying the hyper supply of AI compute power is going to drive down the cost of multimedia generation for AI to nothing? Sort of like how fiber optic being laid everywhere in the 1990a made a transatlantic phone call basically free? If that’s the case, I don’t know how they’re ever going to beat the latency advantage of a local AI console over fiber to a distant data center, especially if gaming integrates LLM‘s and AI dynamic scenery generation to revolutionize the industry.
>>544219411Yah, they want you to rent them instead through shit like G-force now.You will own nothing and be happy.
>>544228892>it will be as ubiquitous and free as emailIt's kinda already the case with Haiku 5.5. This shit is cheap as fuck.
>>544229353>paying 400 percent markup for 10 percent performance uplift The ultimate shitskin izzat farm grift
>>544219411You don't need to buy anything made after the 10 series to play anything worth playing. All the games that require anything from the 50 series are trash. Games made in the last 10-15 years are mostly trash. Games made in the last 5 years are all trash. >This isn't sustainableSo just wait and it will collapse. Do nothing. Win.
>>544229384Well it's not about quality either as you render chinksects. Fucking disgusting jeet.
>>544219411an Intel-aviv Arc B580 is all you need
>>544226081Yes this is true. Graphics cards for computers will now unfortunately never be made again...
>>5442210161050Ti reporting in. It works for 1080p and evem runs some local AI if you're patient.
>>544219582No, you start playing video games.
>>544227811Most things quadruple in price year over year. You are going to be left behind.
>>544229405>>544229433What the end of this retardation is will be you sign a free signup with basic information like your phone number when you purchase a game or want to use an AI model and it will integrate your experience across platforms to tailor the AI agent, your shopping and internet browsing habits and NPC interactions within vidya to you specifically
>>544229500you want RTX, even recomps are starting to use DLSS to make the games a superior experience to emulation.
>>544228008I wonder how many of the data centers are actually for this.
>>544229330>Still, it's a waste of timethe arts is a waste of time?
>>544229632i won't be left behind at all actually, i have an ak47. make sure you take care of my toy for me until i'm ready to play some pc games, or else you're going to face the consequences.
>>544229719Usually yes. Most artwork is absolute trash.Look at this thread for proof.
>>544229405AI itself will be used to distill this bloated shit to local android phone user tier hardware using more efficient distilling methods and data compression. The hardware schmucks are just horny about speed in the moment because it's an emerging technology with the promises of AI literally acting like it's own self fulfilling pyramid scheme. Everybody would not be as suckered in if they only knew they too can have local AI without these meme cards.
>>544229439I bought that card when it was $1039. >-4000000 izzat for the pigskinYou think I'd pay $1689 for a card? You think I'm a pigskin retard?Even $1039 was painful. The only reason I did it is because it's factory OC and it was a significant step up from the 5060TI, which was like less than $100 less.So, no, it's not a mere 10 percent performance uplift, you stupid fucking pigskin. Also, that card went up by like $300 since December, whereas the one I bought went up more than $600.You are a dumb pigskin retard that knows nothing about gaming, GPU performance or price prediction. My card went up 60% after I bought it and is a way better card than the RTX5060TI.Eat shit, scrub.
>>544219411Get a cheaper card or AMD or Intel stop whining, or start a revolution already.
>>544229792>Usually yes. no its not, never.>Most artwork is absolute trash.post something you think is good then
>>544219411They want you paying a subscription for games and possibly your gaming pc too. Own nothing but be happy.
>>544219411>This isn't sustainableall you had to do was vote for Kamala retard
>>544228457>After you go over like 16 gb of VRAM the price of the card quadrupled because Nvidia wants to artificially separate the commercial and private markets.Not only that, but AI GPUs arent using registered video ram because it doesnt exist because its existence was not asked for. Extending the gddr7 standard to use registered ram would enable much larger memory banks per GPU, which in turn would enable 2-3x larger AI models at a very modest increase in cost. But Nvidia and AMD wants to sell GPUs and specialized AI accelerators which are GPUs without raster units, and if they make a GPU or AI accelerator with a gigantic onboard memory space, AI companies will just buy less GPU/AI accelerators, because the only allowed way to get a huge memory space for a huge AI model is to link multiple GPUs or AI accelerators. So they intentionally avoid to introduce this technology to AI accelerators and GPUs. You arent supposed to run a huge model at home on your consumer hardware no matter how cheap memory is compared to a GPU. Furthermore, these AI accelerators and workstation GPUs are so highly clocked and volted that they have a limited lifespan. If they were downclocked by 20% you could downvolt them and drop power consumption by 40% as well as giving them decades of useful life. Apparently typical AI accelerators have a mean time to failure of about 3-5 years because they are clocked so high and go 24/7/365.The AI jews thinks thats okay because they are overflowing with fresh cash from investors and these chips are going to be replaced by newer and faster ones in 18 months anyway. But if this doesnt happen their companies are dead and there is nothing left to liquidate because its just e-waste. I really dont get the plan here.
>>544229211>The AI bubble will implode this winter when the energy and food shortages hit and central banks are forced to raise rates.come on, bro
>>544230070This is the same company that memed SLI to gamers while its only actual use was for developing AI itself.
>>544219411I got a 5070 TI for €700 last year. wish I had just went all in on the 5090 or 6000 Blackwell because it looks like there won't be better cards until 2028 maybe.
>>544229995>post something you think is good then
>>544229405>especially if gaming integrates LLM‘s and AI dynamic scenery generation to revolutionize the industry.Thats not possible unless the chinks break into the video card market and sells video cards with way more onboard memory than whats available now. Nvidia and AMD have already market segmented video cards with large amounts of memory away from the consumer market and they wont stop doing it unless they are getting outcompeted by a newcomer. A modern game requires at least 12 gb video memory, preferably 16. Where are you going to fit your AI model? You would need 128 GB card to fit both game data and AI and you would have to trade FPS for AI computations.
>>544230008Yeah, Kamala Harris' drunk ass was going to stop this. Sure thing retard.
>>544219411You can buy a full pre build from Nvidia's store with 64gb ram, a 5090, and 4tb nvme for less than scalpers sell the 5090.
>>544219411I blame cryptominers
>>544230070That's completely fucked. I prefer democracy but I also envy the fact that if this were happening in China the government could and would just intervene against the interests if capital. Our government can't do that because they are in bed with capital.>I really dont get the plan here.Short term gain, long term pain.I've been developing this idea that capitalism is a rogue AI basically if you understand cybernetics and how machines and systems can use us in the same way we use them. If you've ever read "the paperclip maximizer" that is basically what capitalism itself has become a "profit maximizer" by letting the financial sector get to powerful. They are going to do to the whole world what they did to chipotle.
>>544230524>Yeah, Kamala Harris' drunk ass was going to stop this. Sure thing retard.the only reason this is happening after trump won is because you handed your country to the AI oligarchs
>>544229405just fyi, there is zero reason to use an LLM to dynamically generate terrain. any sane person would just noise functions that have been layered by an LLM and then hand-tuned to match the game's specific needs
>>544230070>>544230965It's the only way I can explain the seemingly irrational behavior of these companies and the stock market. It's because the system doing the thinking is not human nor has human interests. Humans do small tasks within this system without understanding the whole thing and the system itself has the incentives purely of maximal profit today rather than any long term plan dor sustainability.
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>>5442194115090 is off limits rn yesYou can get anything else for 1/3 the price
>>544219607Uhh yeah it is retard
>>544230967The "AI oligarchs" are just frontmen. The record label owns the band, and the road crew keep the band going, and Kamala Harris has no authority over these people. Also, the "AI oligarchs" tried to get Trump to regulate AI and Trump said NOPE. Kamala would have said yes, locking AI behind OpenAI and Anthropic.I want AI completely unchained. Seeing Bloodborne running on PC at 60+ FPS at 4K proves that unchained AI is the way to go.Companies can no longer lock their software to hardware. Sony said we will no longer own our games, but what's happened is Sony no longer owns their games.Copyright will be destroyed by this, as will patents. And not a moment too soon.
>>544229614this
I've played one game from this decade and it turned out to be gay slop (KCD2) im never touching a modern game again. Maybe I'll try blasphemous 2 one of these days.
>>544229353Brown people legit convince themselves of shit like this while other brown people wring their hands about how easy it is to rip off their own kind.
>>544231327Okay, how about this?
>>544229652Yet I can just play with the older graphics and not need to spend 8k on a new gpu
>>544230197Things happen, but much slower than you think. You will see the great debt implosion begin in 2027 and the soverign debt implosion as well. >>544230214>This is the same company that memed SLI to gamers while its only actual use was for developing AI itself.They actually removed nvlink from consumer cards once AI took off and reserved it for workstation cards only because you could use nvlink to link multiple consumer cards together to hold a single large AI model.
>>544221265>It makes a huge difference imoId be telling myself that too if I just wasted money on a 4k gaming laptop with 2026 prices
>>544219411>off limitsI had the fortunate of seeing about a thousand turn into about thirty-thousand by temporarily doing a little less gaming and a bit more researching into what to invest in. Even then I didn't build an expensive PC since I figured I could just reinvest that amount. So gaming PCs aren't off-limits, but the investing you can do to afford it can open up so many other options you won't even be compelled to get the latest and greatest. I think I'll keep focusing on investing until I can retire and then I can catch up on all the latest, which will be even better by then. By some accounts I already hold the assets I need to "make it" but can't count your chickens before they hatch and all that. Should the gaming industry be better? Absolutely. Just never feel you're out of options.
>>544219411Those cunts at Nvidia I signed up for the 5090 list and they're never going to sell me one.
>>544219411Honestly good. Maybe normies will quit invading my hobby. Accessibility is one reason why vidya died.
>>544230965>Our government can't do that because they are in bed with capital.There is no capital in the western economic system. It is all run on debt, created out of nothing and masquerading as money. The government is in debt with money counterfeiters, aka banks, who can issue debt out of nothing. If the system was based on actual real capital produced by actual production, these gigantic bubbles would not be possible, first because there simply would not be enough capital, and secondly because non-ai business being starved for investments would mean that you would be able to get great return on your money _outside_ anything related to AI. >Short term gain, long term pain.I suspect that the actual plan is pump, dump and run leaving star trek normies and pension funds as bagholders. We had a case here in Sweden with a fake battery producer called "Northvolt". They blew trough 20 billion dollars in investment money, fortunately only 3 from Sweden, and did not produce a single working battery. Their real business idea was to make a fake battery factory that appared to look and work like a real battery factory, push it to IPO and then sell out. All this was quietly memoryholed, and the people behind Northvolt are now active in other scams, some of them based on AI.
>>544219411Nigger you dont need anything above the xx70 card for gaming
It's part of the same war against 3D printers and CNCs now that they're so cheap and work "out of the box" with little to no tweaking needed.Civilians now have the capability to make any product they want themselves, and soon any software too.It's the death of corporations and they're shitting themselves, so they're trying to many any at-home capability too expensive so you need a "tablet-device" and do everything "in the cloud" and then soon after they'll just make anything at-home illegal for "Safety"
>>544221432no you are the retard >>544219770>They have better image quality.?????>>544220573the cheaper ways are worse >>544221577you can find cheaper 5090s than what OP posted and the memory bandwidth will be a lot worse, especially across the cards so you would lose a lot tk/s plus a set up that has the pcie lanes for that is in itself expensive >>544224010it's not SLI retard
but I want to play Minecraft and Cities Skylines with a million assets and mods.yes I need it.
>>544232278These companies are too slow to stop this. Ironically, by using law, government, and courts to stop people, they've tied themselves to snail-paced bureaucracy and legal systems that function on monthly/yearly schedules, not rapid response. But the time these faggots come up with a barrier now, that barrier has been obviated by workarounds. By becoming so litigious, they've put chains on themselves. Technology moves too fast for government to keep up.
>>544228275For that money you could have visited thailand or similar , had a luxury vacation and cum inside like a dozen 20 year olds.
>>5442194119070xt and 9800x3d makes for a really nice gaming rig in the current year
>>544229353low effort ragebait , do better
They want you to stop playing video games and to stop living off gibs
>>544219411>computer with a 5090>a gaming PCWhen are retards going to learn? The only thing a 10 year old card can't play is "modern audience" rayslop.
>>544219411Yes, game on a console
>>544232817Wait until they figure out you can also generate fanmade horrors beyond comprehension with a 1080 too.
>>544232216Depends on the value you get from the 80 model. 1080ti was peak value and was worth it over the 1070. Nowadays it's not even worth it to buy a new GPU unless you're a goy who needs to use whatever slop is being pushed out. >>544232278Average person is nowhere near intelligent enough to use any of that. Given how many "people" are non-Whites and non-NE Asians, CNC and 3d printing are still only usable for a small minority of people. Hell even the average NE Asian and average White isn't that smart. Average is quite stupid. > the death of corporationsNo. Even in the hypothetical state of a plethora of small private 3d printing and CNC mills you still need raw resources and various parts that you can't make with either. Most people will still be going to Amazon or a retailer of some sort anyways to get what they need.
>>544220587>12gb vrammy laptop from 4 years ago has 50% more than this
>>544219541You lucky bastard. I wish I bought one when I had the chance, but no ... Now there is no RTX 5090 below 6000€ on the market.
>>544219411Well, at least we get to see millions of AI slop content dropped every day. Images, videos, music, apps, games ... And thousand of copies of original pieces. You can even create your own slop with a few prompts that nobody else will ever care about! Aren't you excited?
>>544220587You can get a used 3060 12gb and OC it to 2100MHz for 3X less, you'd have to be a retard to get one of these lessers at that price.
>>544219411And the craziest part? You're gonna vote to give the people driving up the prices another HUGE tax cut plus massive dergulations and corporate welfare so they can drive up the prices even more.
>>544233355I plan to never support a single chud ever again
>>544232977>CNC and 3d printing are still only usable for a small minority of people. Hell even the average NE Asian and average White isn't that smart.It's actually getting to the point where they might not need to to. Some LLMs can apparently crap out full models and tool paths now. With mid-range stuff the ability to use CAD is the only barrier, and that's going to be gone soon too.Given most phones have a LiDAR now, I can see in 1-2 years just pointing your phone at something and taking a short video at a few angles and saying "Model a new lens cap for my camera, and a tulip hood while you're at it" will be enough.
>>544219411Do they make interesting games these days?When i was a kid around 2000 we got stuff like metal gear solid and operation flashpoint and deus ex. Absolutely breathtaking. What's the coolest thing in 2020s?
>>544234216Nothing that justifies spending that many goybux to play it. Unless you like Feminist-tranny video-movie slop 2.0
>>544219411>So are gaming PCs off limits now or what?I don't have a RTX5090 and I still can play games on my (Linux) AMD PC no issues. I can even play PC games on my used MBP with nothing more than a M1Pro.If AI kills PC gaming, it isn't because expensive high end hardware, but because AI can decompile and jailbreak the shit out of everything. I can totally see the big publishers making a push for cloud streaming because of it. It's a nightmare for the gaming jews.
>>544234699I can see making AI duplicates of games become punishable by death before any of that
>>544233355but when it comes to deregulating the border we SHOULD vote for that and white genocide, right?
I still have a GTX 1650. Stop consooming modern goyslop, and embrace good games. Alternatively, emulate old titles. Just stop giving this talmudic industry any money.>OOT remakeI'll go play the original.>WolverineI'll play that X-men arcade game from the 90's. >GTA6I'll go play Retro City Rampage instead.
Why would you need something like a 5090? I just built some PCs for my kids and I just got a 9060xt 16gb it runs any game on high settings at 1440p whats the big difference? do you really need more?
>>544219704>eventually people will not want to game at all anymoregames these days are absolute vomit. after playing bf6 i am seriously thinking of selling my rtx5070ti at a loss and going outside and touching grass.
>>544228089>>544219505TRVTH NVKE
>>544228089Ask Claude to optimise the game
>>544219704>They will run out of electricity and waterRight now datacenters consume around 2% of electricity and minuscule water. However they are still straining every grid they are in. That means that there is still 98% of electricity they can take away from you. So long as you have lights working in your home they will still have stuff to steal.
>>544237025I have a 5070 ti too5070 is fine too but I wouldn't get rid of it
Going *shudder* o-outs-side *urkh* is f-free.
>>544219411Madarchaaaad. Aint no way this is real.
>>544219411You honestly think billionaires give a shit what is and isn't "sustainable" anymore?
>>5442194116700 xt is 300 dollars usedrx 7600 is also 300 dollars used1080/1080 ti is 100/1501070 is like 80 dollarsall of these will play 95% of good games lolif you wanna go super high end get 9060xt/9070 xtthe local microscamcenter near me has 9070 xts for like 600 to 750 lol
>>544219411>>544219505>>544219541>>544219560>>544219582>>544219602>>544219607>>544219614>>544219669the chinese are next going to do this what they are currently doing to ram, pull out the rug, capture the market.
>>544233271they dont really have the supply in europe. a used rtx costs that much over there
>>544219411>This isn't sustainableNo, it isn't.time to switch hobbies.
>>544237705Most likely scenario desu senpaiThey are going to offer a cheap alternative that global governments will ban or tariff out of fear and more china collapse threads will be made out of seethe
>>544221432it isnt made for gaming, TLDR is it has the same amount of memory as a workstation blackwell GPU for 2k when their MSRP was 6k (which is now 15k) 5090s were the go to for workstation shit its why nvidia shut that shit down money
>>544219411you dont need to buy overpriced crap , leave it to the AI and cryptofags , it´s how it is now , there is nothing to play anyway.
>>544219411no the best games ever made can be played on an old office pc
>>544219411AI made 5090's off limits But nothing pisses me off more than rejectards blanket labelling non-data center consumers as "gamers" so nobody takes the general market seriously
>>544234216remakes of those same games, basically, but with all soul sucked clean out of 'em
