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>>544248560
uh, no, I don't believe in jewish fairy tales

do you believe that gods and demons can come from nothing and are necessary for creation but creation can't come from nothing, and if so, do you realize that's literally impossible?
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DO YOU LIKE COFFEE LOL?
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>>544248666
Everything is possible if you're humble enough
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>>544248560
Yes that's why I believe in David and Jesus
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>>544248560
i don't believe in jewish fairytales
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>>544248858
Explain the statue You Philistine.
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>>544248666
Oh hell no nigger
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>>544248918
uh, why is he holding a penis?
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>>544248964
Its sling shot heathen
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>>544248560
I believe "the Devil" is God, yes
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>>544248560
I'm not jewish or trans-jewish, so no.
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I believe in the Demiurge and that this fucker is trapping us inside a simulation for endless suffering
Fuck that guy
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>>544248666
Bots aren’t noticing the digits on the first reply.
I’m so fucking scared right now.
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>>544249078
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>>544249110
>muh sequential numbers!
Grow up faggot
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>>544248666
Ex nihilo omnia fiunt
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>>544249141
You’re retarded if you think that’s a coincidence. The odds of that happening are extremely low.
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>>544248666
you lost tranny
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>>544249186
What a grand and intoxicating innocence
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>>544248560
>muh jewbook comic villian
No, I don't believe in jewish fairytales
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>>544249229
Who the hell are those people
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>>544248560
I didn't at first then i learned about jews and muslims later about niggers,gypsies and other groups and it finally got me...
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>>544249250
don't worry about that
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>>544249284
Tell me you deutscher schwarze>>544249257
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>>544248560
You don't understand evil. I can guarantee that 99% of the people posting on this board could not conceive morality, causality or even merely the thought process of a being which surpasses them as much as the concept of the devil would. You're like ants arguing whether there's an ant somewhere that's the enemy of all ants while being oblivious to humanity.
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>>544249346
https://youtu.be/LScDK-skbC0
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yes i am a fallen angel from birth
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>>544248560
No
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>>544248666
Nice try Satan you cunt
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>>544249402
Be a Rising Beast instead
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>>544249361
Humanity ?
There is only about 2 millions human in this world rest are animals in the human bodies... as the rule says "Whatever is born has to have soul" so even if potential is not there it's stuffed into body... when the insects start being merged with human body you will see nightmares you haven't seen before.
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honestly this devil satanic panic horse shit does more evangelism than the gospels do. So many young people that were effectively atheist now larp as christians because the internet talks about satan everyday
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>>544249482
You sure bout that?
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>>544249513
Pretty sure
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>>544249585
Remember what happened last time?
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>>544249480
Well, this is an anonymous board and it can never be tied back to me, so here's the truth:

The autistic are the only real people with souls. "Normies" are essentially automatons. They act based on instinct and feelings. They are essentially reflex based. The reason they dislike the autistic so much is specifically because of this: Normies possess "mirror neurons" which allow them to instinctively identify each other as being "normal." The autistic don't. The autistic rely on thought and reason.

Normies are mindless animals. The autistic have minds and souls. Of course, I'm not included the retarded in this.
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https://youtu.be/aq6Ady0o6kk

I remember
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https://www.youtube.com/live/6PMMe3slA_E
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>>544248560
Every "proof" of the existence of God is a proof of the existence of the Devil.
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>>544248560
As archetypal function yes. It's in me. It's in you. It in everything.
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>>544248560
He laughs at you for making this post. Dumb gypsy.
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>>544248560
Devil May Cry is a pretty popular franchise.
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>>544248560
I believe that we live in hell, so the devil created and owned this place.
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I believe in the possibility of a human doing an evil act or something being bad for you. The consequences of behaving good and behaving evil are observable in one's environment, and the abstraction of religious tales to explain these things do not bring me any benefit in the present, but they may simplify the act of teaching about morality and truth to people who lack the cognitive abilities to reason about them on their own.
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only reason i believe in good is cause there is evil all around us, so obviously that implies there must also be decency
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>>544248666
You sneaky devil
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>>544250505
necessary evil?
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From an etymology and historical perspective, Satan and Lucifer predate both the bible and Paradise Lost.

There is no Satan, it was originally a title, not a specific being. Islam has Iblis, which is a type of devil or djinn. That's their equivalent. Demons are real, but not Satan.

Satan as a being only appeared in the new testament, and unless you're Muslim, there is no hell. Hell was invented in a similar manner to Satan, both new and old testament being inspired largely by Hebrew scripture, with Satan as a being rather than title being influenced by Zoroastrianism, as the Hebrew people spent time around Zoroastrians.

Satan is inspired in particular by the forces of evil or the direct opposition to God (ahura Mazda) known as Angra Mainyu.

So no.

7th day Adventists have a belief similar to the original Hebrew belief regarding hell, that you don't burn in a lake of fire with a devil, you simply go to sleep. To them hell is where you don't wake up. To Hebrews it's where you basically don't wake up either.
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>>544248560
Lucifer had four wings. No angel ever had two wings.
>Its in the Bible.
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>>544249176
Satan does not have horns.
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>>544250769
wordgames, Pan, Dionysos, Prometheus, Eosphoros etc. etc.
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>>544250075
To Navajo and Muslims, The Devil or Iblis is in our blood. Satan isn't the correct name.

Through non locality of mind or "all is mind" which supercedes DNA through universal collective consciousness, we are all related to demons, devils, etc.
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>>544250769
Matthew 25:41 says otherwise.
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>>544248560
If panpsychism is real then egregores might be real
And the devil might be a sentient egregore who feeds off loosh
And is worshipped by those who evil
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>>544250834
Not word games, etymology and historical context. Just like shades, servators, egregores, tulpas, we are all part of one mind. As much as you want to believe in Satan, it never existed.

The closest thing is the Navajo concept of The Evil One or Islamic Iblis, but even that is quite a bit different in significant ways.

The scariest things about the Devil to the Navajo are not taught to regular people. One of those would be of course the all is mind concept. The fact that as the Islamic people say, we're all part devil.

Not that he's a specific being, we're literally all 'the devil's to some extent, if he exists.
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>>544250826
says who?
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>>544250933
New testament. Again your entire book is derived from Hebrew scripture, your Zionist literally worship jews.
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>>544248560
Come to my town and it would be hard not to believe they're a bunch of faggot pieces of shit
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>>544250945
It's moreso a collective consciousness. Everyone is part of it, but it's compartmentalized
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Yes the devil is real and i served him(my own selfish desires) for a long time.
He has already lost, Jesus has won, death has no grasp for those bought back by Christ's atonement for us, a free gift any can recieve.
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>>544248560
Yes and you should as well.
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>>544251106
So ridiculous
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>>544250862
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>>544249028
nha im pretty sure that's a weiner
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>>544248560
no, but i believe in the evil of man
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Jews run the world because of how infantile the goyim are. They literally wrote most of the bible, added things to the new testament, and the goyim eat it right up.

Most satanists are just atheists, but they're still partially basing their beliefs on Jewish philosophy and scripture. The very name of their "religion" is derived from it.

Stay infantile, goyim
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>>544251213
The concept couldn't exist without our mind to begin with. All is mind. God is the greater good of the collective consciousness of the one mind, Satan is the opposition to that, not an actual being.
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>>544250977
You confuse Dante's Inferno with scripture. Scrupture is able to make thee wise unto salvation. Dante cannot.
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>>544251031
Your objection does not make it less true. Worry less for movements and nomenclature, and worry for your own soul, which is able to be cast into hell, where the worm dieth not.
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>>544251362
Once again, luciferians and satanists like Christians have been cucked by Hebrews. Lucifer as a name isn't from the bible, and contrary to what some say, it's not even from Paradise Lost originally. It predates that even and has nothing to do with any prior pagan deity.
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>>544251452
I'm very sorry that you have to learn it this way, but Pan predates your puny scripture
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>>544251486
There is no hell. Like Satan hell is a boogeyman created to control people through fear. You are thoroughly cucked.
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There's good, bad, and common sense. Common sense is all I need to worry about and why I choose good over evil and don't need a book of fairy tales created by an ethnic crime family that practice astromancy
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>>544251576
No real human uses "cucked" as a verb. Your "opinion" carries the weight of a cloud of quarks.
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>>544251576
Maybe Hell is Normies?
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>>544248666
>do you believe that everything can come from nothing? if so, do you realise that's impossible?
>except of course, the big bang...
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>>544251413
Unfortunately for him, whilst the Temple of Set is on point mostly when it comes to magic, in later interviews later in life when asked if Set was an actual deity, he hesitated, squirmed in his chair and said something along the lines of what Charles Manson said about Jesus.

Which was actually partially true. All is mind. If you look into what Temple of Set actually believes, it's not about worshipping a deity. To the ancient Egyptians, which Aquino based his religion on, Set was a human like anyone else originally. All the gods were originally humans that happened to be evolving advanced telepaths and were only considered gods after death.

Still all part of one mind. Hermes or Thoth knew this as well.
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I'd also recommend going to google.ai vs google.com and ask questions regarding religion. Study scripture, learn Hebrew.

Study Heka as more a philosophy and religion vs simply magic, and pay attention to what Thoth said regarding oneness, and Hekas similarly to Christianity
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>>544251700

>hell is other people
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The closest thing to hell in reality is a time loop, which the collective consciousness can trap compartmentalized aspects of itself in. In that there really is no time. It can seem like perpetual deja vu, or the same events occurring for thousands of years. But time is also a construct of the mind. Matter comes from consciousness, not the other way around.

Here's a good video, relevant

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vw1Sv04YQS4&t=1s&pp=2AEBkAIB
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>>544251517
Pan isnt real. The word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. Your mythology doesn't have this power.
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Most jews I've known were nice people but would suggest what I'm suggesting, mainstream religion is mostly a cult despite there being truths and wisdoms embedded in it.

Not everyone needs it. Some people have difficulty making sense of the world otherwise though.

Shugendo is an interesting one. Also Judaism is more tolerant and open minded towards magic.
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>>544251576
Hell is thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
>Rev 20:14
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>>544252288
It's nice that you can have an intellectual discussion with your fellow religious person though.
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>>544252288
>this is the person calling everyone else larpers
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>>544248560
Easily the most nonsensical character in Christian mythology. Here is a supposed rebel who's every action just aids Yahweh in his tyranny and helps absolve him from blame. He spends most of his time punishing people for violating the laws of his supposed arch-enemy. Punishing people for pissing off his enemy, does no one else see how utterly silly that is?

If Satan and Yahweh were actually real then Satan would reward sinners for giving Yahweh the finger rather than punishing them as a warning to future violators of Yahweh's schizophrenic commands.
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>>544252340
More fairy tales added to your book by the people who wrote the first version, so you would remain infantile and petty, rather than tolerant and able to spiritually evolve, so that they can preside over you as your masters, the way all those Zionist that worship jews and wave around Israeli flags like shit eating grin having drooling zombies, mindlessly following their leader do.

You and the German flag would make a nice couple.
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>>544252459
Satan was originally a title for someone that worked for god as a prosecutor and wasnt his enemy, and wasnt a single being.

Him being gods enemy is Zoroastrianism inspired fairy tale added to the new testament. If you can't Hebrew but pretend to understand scripture, you are very amusing indeed
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>>544252317
Religion is for the masses who cannot conceive of the divine without tying it to earthly concepts, so they are able to make a conception of it, though a lesser understanding. And mostly, religion is a control mechanism for the masses, to show them how to behave in order to bring humanity upward from their bestial nature organise them into civilisation and to maintain civilisation

The esoteric traditions are for developing first hand insight which takes work, spiritual development and dedication. It is not for everyone. Not everyone is even capable
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>>544252422
I do not care to see you or anyone else spend eternity in the lake of fire. I cannot save you, only the word can do that. You really must believe before you leave this earth. I can show you the way, but I cannot make you go.
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i have seen hell

in the eyes of post wall roasties

(post wall ie. aged 14+}
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The devil exists but his role is simply to temp humans to do evil. He does not actively do evil independently or override free will.
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>>544255925
Tempt*
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>>544255925
The devil.is fake but the concept exists to be the sheepdog that works for jesus the shepherd. keep the sheep in the pen and safe from those evil (pagan) wolves and predators
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>>544252584
Completely wrong and illiterate.
• 1 Chronicles 21:1
• Zechariah 3:1–2
• Genesis 3:15
• Job 1:6–12 & 2:1–7
• Isaiah 14:12–15
• Ezekiel 28:12–17
• Isaiah 27:1
• Job 26:12–13
• 1 Kings 22:19–22
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>>544256014
> t. coomer to sin and temptation
You fedora tippers will learn one day. I pray not too late.
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>>544256173
>if you don't believe like me then you're evil
Grow up
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>>544248560
>Do you believe in the devil

neurotic schizoids projecting their own fears and mental illness on some other form of skydaddy
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>>544248560
Yes. Refer to >>544228355
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>>544249028
100% a weiner
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>>544248666
Thanks for your input Satan, however Jesus Christ has already won
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>>544249141
You don't belong here
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>>544256310
> tis I the straw man.
What part of the text you read showed me calling anon evil?
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Never heard of the Devil killing people by flooding the world or by raining fire or killing first borns because the front door was unpainted. As far as characters from that book go he seems all right.
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>>544258281
He caused mankind to stray from God and eternal salvation.
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>>544248666
>666
It is interesting how you askenazi canaanite demon faggot always get outted somehow. It is if the little season of satan is ending sooner than later.
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>>544258281

Set was actually more like a super hero in Egyptian mythology originally.
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>>544248560
no, I don't believe in jewish fairytales
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Yes, I see him everywhere in this satanic civilization.
Help
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>>544258334
That's new testament bullshit, welcome to Christ cuck club.
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>>544249471
>a germ says Christ is Jewish, while paganism isn’t
The best men from your country were culled. National socialism was a Christian movement. You don’t even know your own history. Post hand to confirm you are a subhuman immigrant.
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>>544248560
Nah. All that abrahamic shite has no impact on my life at all.
I believe gnomes and imps are more real than the biblical devil
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When you suggest "the devil made me do it" it's kind of like saying "everything is about ME"

Remove yourself from the equation and realize we as a collective of one mind are all part of both the problem and also the solution. Remove your ego from the equation, stop blaming others, think of yourself as a collective, and understand through free will we have the power to change the world around us for the better. Stop blaming others and become part of the solution.
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>>544248560
I believe in egregores, as a concept.
If a man believes demons live in his head and tell him to kill people, does it matter if anyone believes in his demon delusion? Someone still got killed. This is the power of the egregore. It's the power of belief. If humans believe in a god, then that concept of god can influence them. They open themselves up to being guided by the god. Following the rules of the god. And through mortals, the gods act. So it doesn't matter if the gods or devils exist. What matters is if people believe in them and act on that belief.
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>>544258535
>I see an invisible god!
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Evil is a person, and its not some red dude with a pitchfork.
ever wonder where these weird thoughts come from, like "you could totally drive into the incoming traffic", or classics like "you could totally kill that baby you are holding". yes, thats not you, this is from the Evil One.
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>>544258244
>showed me calling anon evil?
Your use of imaginary oogabooga
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I used to, but I've dispelled the only evidence I had.
Like, I turned really hardcore Christian back when I was 16 and was praying almost nonstop. It all stopped when I had a severe night terror that I've assumed was a demon; after that, it didn't take long to become an atheist.
Then I was an atheist for ~10 years, and the moment I became Christian again, the night terrors magically returned.

So I've naturally assumed demons must be real; also, night terrors intensified when I did sin too much and so on.

What I've learned is that it's all mental, it's based on beliefs, as of late due to reading a lot about philosophy of mind and consciousness I've learned to test everything when I have the opportunity, be aware of my intentions and how they manifest long term etc.
So I've figured out that there's a state between being in REM and waking up; our brains simulate the room we're in for various reasons, and that's where "night terrors" and "Demons" occur, but I've spent so much time altering that state with curiosity and intention that I understood it's all mental. The room is seldom perfectly accurate, so you know it's a dream/mental state; you can intend for the landscape to change and it does instantly; you can intend for bad feelings or fear to stop, and it does - it's similar to a lucid dream.

So anyway, my point is that I'm not persuaded whatsoever that demons manifest physically/mentally in any way towards me, at least.
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>>544248560
>Do you believe in the devil
Yes , it's a low vibrational 3D entity that was placed here to train Souls.
To make souls turn to either light or darkness quicker.
There are low vibrational negative entities who parasite on human energy here in 3D.
They love and feed off of negative human emotions - greed , envy, fear, hate , etc.
>that's why all news are negative news btw.

You need to recognize that you are NOT your body, your are a Soul.
And your soul is above 3D negative entitles and energy parasites.

There's also the Matrix, an OS that generates stuff for you here that wants to keep your playing its 3D game.
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>>544261056
When I talk about intentionality, I mean the mind's intrinsic capacity for "aboutness" and directedness-the way our thoughts, expectations, and choices actively shape what we experience.
The mind never just passively receives raw data. It always interprets things under a specific framework or meaning.
An intentional state is directed toward an object, but that object can be completely imaginary or generated from within. Experiencing a "presence" or intense fear during sleep paralysis doesn't mean there is an actual external entity causing it. The mental state creates its own target.

Dream control and hypnagogic navigation are pure demonstrations of this mental agency!

I did a sort of phenomenology of mind experiment, so to speak, by empirically proving to myself that these states were malleable projections of belief and intention; that, successfully, the need to posit external physical or demonic causes pushing upon, also now they all feel properly "inside", I know my intentional space.
The mind never receives the world as a passive, neutral recording device. Instead, consciousness receives experience through what she calls an "active expectancy" or "active patiency" - we reach out to reality by interpreting data under specific "aspects"
The object of thought or perception does not need to exist as a physical entity in the external world to be fully intended by the mind.

Also, so much crap like being aware that I've intended to fall into sin the day before and then perfectly remembering it dispelled the idea of "outside" forces compelling me.
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>>544261478
Anyway, wrote so many drafts and overwrote them, and asked AI to correct a part that I've still fucked up a detail:
>she calls
Here, it was Psyche, a character in a philosophy of mind book; it wasn't that important, but a passage from that book that I've rechecked prompted me to write about intentionality. Sorry for the confusion. Really zoinked on opioids.
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>(29) [VIII] This power is explained as understanding that encompasses memories of the buddha's own past terms of existence which continued only for as long as delusion remained, as well as memories of the past lives of each of the other countless living beings that exist, including the causes, the location, and the nature of each of their lives.
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>>544259334
>I believe in egregores, as a concept.
This is correct. Egregores EXIST.
If or WHEN humans pay too much attention to Something, this Something then manifests.
Good or bad btw.
We have an all encompassing Informational Field .
>you can call it a cloud backup.
Everything that actually exists is recorded into an Informational field, i.e. gets backed up into a cloud.
The scam that various cultists do - such as Vatican jesuits or freemasons.
They are pushing fake information into the field - such as fake ball, fake news, etc.
When they push it enough , it becomes then an Egregore.
>Egregore is something that doesn't really exists, but information about it exits
>because enough humans paid attention to it.
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>>544248560
I don't believe in the fanfic fallen angel bullshit. But the bible does speak of an adversary. I think it is ridiculous to term him as an adversary to God, as God cannot have an adversary being omnipotent. They are an adversary to Man. You can think of him as a literal devil or a general moral temptation intrinsic to the human condition, it doesn't really matter. Just understand that God gave you a choice and it is yours to make.
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>>544249186
Odds to win a lottery are extremely low as well, yet people win them.
It's called a coincidence. Something they don't teach in brainwash camps.
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>>544249361
Since I am an older soul that is WAY above this 3d devil energy parasite.
I completely understand this little 3D devil thingy that we placed here. For a reason that your Soul woke up faster btw.
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>>544248560
Yes.
Next question?
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>>544261802
>Odds to win a lottery are extremely low as well, yet people win them.
>It's called a coincidence.
Imagine believing that the money laundering state run lottery is won be real people and not bag holders for dark budgets and elite payouts.



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