This is a total PC simulation even including hard drive speed. They took this from you. This was 32 years ago. Now imagine how bloated the AI clone of this will be when MS realizes this is what we always needed and wanted.
DOS as you know, takes less time to load than it takes your PC to enumerate in the BIOS.
>ya don't know what you lost if you never had it
>>544292875I have a two CNC machines that are windows 2000 with original 2.5" spinners, I forget the ram but it's low like 256mb or less. both boot faster than the cad machine that is on NVME ssds with 128gb of ram. it all comes down to the OS bloat.
linux boots fast and is much better than windows 95 (except maybe for familiarity)on the right hardware it may be sub-3s and people tweaked it to be faster than that of course but even without chasing boot times it's quite fast
Word was as expensive as the OS back then.
>>544292875I don't want to go back 32 years ago. AI has been the best thing to happen.
Does windows not open quick anymore? I remember when ssds first became a thing 15 years ago and windows 7 would take about as long as OPs webm to boot.
>>544292875Mine boots faster and its piece of shit windows 11.
A lot of pc bloat is failsafes. Unironically jeet code. All just to simulate 3D spaces using visual illusions and le pretty colors. Pretty grim but whites chose this timeline of computers and still fund it massively ratio wise.
>>544292875You can still boot this fast with the right OS. Windows 11 is total jeetware slop. I have a Ryzen mini PC with Batocera on it that I keep hooked up to my living room TV and pretend it's a gaming console. It boots up in like 5 seconds, about the same as a GameCube or PS2 did back in the day.
>>544292875And if Windows worked that way today, that's how long it would take for your computer to get a virus
>>544294264Yeah my Linux laptop boots in like 6 seconds and LibreOffice or whatever only takes a couple seconds to open. Half of that 6 second boot time is bios splash screen POST
>>544292875>even including hard drive speedno its not you fucking moron.
>>544292875ai reversed engineered open sourced microsoft, adobe apps, not bloated anymore, 50-90mb. https://getartcraft.com/apps
>>544294543>saar without the ten gigabytes of jeetware slop running you will get the virus please do the needful saar and keep the jeetcode loaded saar
>>544292875>This is a total PC simulation>even including hard drive speed. But not the processing speed>This was 32 years agoNo this is recentA Pentium Pro would not even do this at that time.
>>544294543>VirusSkill issue
>>544292875Now do it from a contemporary PC from 95. Nigger.
>>544294412actual windows installations of current windows 11 in the wild almost never boot as fast, nothere's also a high chance even just device drivers with default installation settings introduced multiple gigabytes of bloatware on their own and added a relative zoo of processes that run on startup. and other shit. so often it's even worse in reality.it's really bad
>>544292875It wasn't that fast at all back then zoomer.
>>544294573>only takes a couple secondstakes less than a second for me to start libreoffice on linux
>>544294412win7 on SSD here. does take about OP's length of time. my win10 isn't that bad eitherIf I'm ever unable to use 7 I'm going to linux. Otherwise I intend to use win7 for the rest of my life. It's the perfect OS
>>544292875who made this video where did you get it from
>>544295136Same on a Pentium g5420Local computing is necessary in 2026
>>544294412i reinstalled my windows 11 because the restart would take like half an hour
>>544294573and that's not uncommon. honestly it's what you'd "expect" from software that isn't even THAT startup-speed optimized.what windows 11 is doing on so many computers in the wild is just pretty pathological
>>544294264uninstall linux right fucking now chud
>>544292875My bootup time was significantly slower. But opening Word was comparable.>>544294483> All just to simulate 3D spaces using visual illusions and le pretty colors.Terry showed us the way.
>>544295227Yep windows 11 is spyware, it’s basically always looking to see if you are a north korean general or an arab. Shit is fucked and racist
is it true that jeets are mass committing minimally altered gits so that they can use the repositories as references for job applications at Microsoft and have hence ruined many such repositories with their poop fingers?
>>544294668Curious enough to try this for a basic offline notebook build.
>>544295033it was but only with fresh install. It would drastically slow down over time because the registry would grow and become fragmented as apps/updates were installed and removed.
>>544295567I installed all of them because they're so small.
>>544292875I could probably still do that on Win11, but I don't have Word.
>>544295481it's even worse, apparently some are simply students shitting up the place because it was a classwork/homework assignment.
>>544295839Thank god all of us oldfags migrated to ipv9 internet layer, amirite?
>>544292875Windows 95 was SLOW AS FUCK zoomie. You have no idea how bad things were before SSDs.
>>544292875I miss it too, anon
>>544295201lol fucking glownigger
>comfy whirr of the hard drive>warm buzz of the crt screenI miss it so much bros
>>544292875>>544292923PCs took FOREVER to boot back then because SSDs didn't exist. HDDs sucked. Would take minutes to get your OS booted.
>>544292875My first PC was Pentium 166 MHz with Win 95 and shit never loaded so fast as in this video. But good times, yes.
>>544292875The Commodore 64 was ready in a second.
>>544292875this is bullshit. I lived through those times and Windows was never known for booting fast or being reliable, in fact it was known for being slow and things didn't get better till Windows XP. That's why at the time Apple and Linux were able to gain so much over Windows. Eventually MS got scared enough they started paying manufacturers to not put Linux on their PC's and if they did they'd block them from using Windows.
>>544296560Because this video is running on modern hardware and an m2 ssd hooked directly into the motherboard instead of a 4300 rpm HDD.
I remember having excruciatingly slow Windows boot times until I was on a fresh install of Windows 7 with an SSD.
>>544295944I don't even have internet. I just had AI make a pretend internet. None of this is real.
>>544292875It works as good as apple products.
>>544292875XP should be recoded for today's machines
>>544294483>whites choseI don't think so Tim.
>>544294300Windows had an AI assistant 32 years ago.
>>544292875This is on something like a 200MHz processor though.
>>544300038>166MHzpretty good guess, eh?
>>544294300how brown is your skin?
How do we defeat jeets? They seem to be the best golems for rothschilds
>>544294412Takes me like a minute. It's really all the drivers and non windows related startup apps that make it slow.
That's a fucking lie, windows 95 never loaded that fast, whonever did that is a huge faggott. unc
>>544297676You are very real to me, anon. I sit here thinking about your realness. Please like and subscribe to keep my love to you updated to you to you
>>544292875>ssd>more than 64mb ramHonestly, I would have installed NT4 on that beast
>>544294412newfags can't into windowsmy machine boots Win11 faster than any mainstream linux DE
>>544292875>zoomer doesn'T understand how shitty 90s HDDs werekyson actual hardware this shit would be 3x slower
>>544292875i still have win95 and it takes a lot longer than that to start up but its true apps like word dont take long to load because they arent the kiked bloatware of today
>>544292875It all went down hill after 98 SEThe great decline
>>544294300>AI has been the best thing to happen.explain
>>544292875It wasnt that fast, plus you had to wait a little bit(around a minute) after you are booted into UI.>T. Actually had a win98 computer
>>544292875I dunno that seems about the same time as it takes my Mac to boot and load NotepadNext.
>>544294708This is 86box. It perfectly emulates everything. Hdd, cpu, ram, video card, floppy or cd speed, all of it. This is not a regular virtual machine. This is showing a pentium mmx 166mhz with 32mb of ram.
>>544294299>Word was as expensive as the OS back then.yeah it was. whether you had DOS or windoze version, was also a big deal. DOS worked faster and more reliably, obviously.
>>544301162Mainly because they tried to create a smartphone Windows on PC, these retards.
>>544295136>takes less than a second for me to start libreoffice on linuxamen, brother
Everyone saying it was slower than this is wrong. This is 86box, it emulates the entire computer. That's the point that differentiates it from a regular virtual machine. It doesn't run anything faster than the hardware you are emulating, period. I encourage you all to try it. Get your iso's from winworld and the archive. The reason you think that it was slower back then is because waiting on a computer to load anything was still a new experience. You've been conditioned to wait on your computer to load for 30 years since then, no matter how fast it got you always have to wait on it. Along the way it got even slower than it used to be, but you're used to it and back then you weren't. To top it off you were also a lot younger, makes things feel slower even still. Windows 95 also felt sluggish compared to dos machines that came before it.
>>544292875Not sure if OP is a boomer retard or a zoomer retardIf you're old enough to have used Windows 95 you know how limited those programs areIf you're young enough to not have used them, you would know that you get similar speeds with a proper NVMe SSDOP's probably just a timeless retard
>>544301162>It all went down hill after 98 SE>The great declineI had 98SE down to a science, and could wipe the hard drive and fresh install with exactly what I wanted and didn;t want, then lock the boot menu. All my data was stored and went right over. XP was a more then acceptable compromise and ran more software. I STILL run (virtually, but still) the same audio software, it does all i need to do.
>>544301593>If you're old enough to have used Windows 95 you know how limited those programs areWindows 95 as an OS did 95% of the things that actually matter that windows 11 can do. The hardware was limited but the code was actually efficient. Today it's all spaghetti code bloat.
>>544294932i literally just got a new win computer and its fastest startup ive ever seen. on the internet in 1994. also this vid is bs because pcs never loaded that fast ever. sorry dweebs & nons
>>544294300Yeah, these zoomers are vibing on aesthetics. These computers were boring in hindsight. It boots up fast because notepad and solitaire are your only programs.
I have lot of era correct hardware and a P133 with a spinning HDD and 8MB RAM is more responsive in Win95/98 than Win11 on 128 core 128GB RAM NVME current techFuck winblows, it died with XP although 7 was ok
>>544301812Functionally and usability wise windows 95 did basically all of the same stuff. Windows nt and later 95 were the very first modern versions of windows. The core of the operating system hasn't changed much since then.
>>544296402I still use a hdd as a boot drive
>>544301868>The core of the operating system hasn't changed much since thenNah it was Win2000 that made the NT kernel mainstream for consumer winblowsWin95/98 still was DOS
>>544301831You can boot and use windows 95 on 4mb of ram and a 16mhz 386sx cpu from the 80s. It's insane how efficient it was compared to the shit we have now. Op's video is an mmx 166mhz with 32mb of ram. That runs windows 95 very comfortably and those are period correct specs for an entry to mid level pc of that time.
>>544301916I'm talking about using it. What you experience as a user. It was basically all there.
>>544292875>even including hard drive speedWhy are you lying you fucking imbecile?
>>544294573>>544294264My fastest booting system i ever had was a tiny pentium M laptop on a compactFlash card.< 1.3 seconds from grub to a login shell.It was whacky buildroot setup. Basically just a very slim kernel + an extremely small "init system" (bash script to bring up /dev/ and some other junk.I used it to play quake and ssh into my real machines during college in the late 2010s.I set it up because back then i actually had time to experiment with BS like that, and i wanted to have the most minimal "note taking" setup that i could come up with.
>>544296961Hearing those loud ass hard drives spin and rattle in the school computers and waiting like 12 minutes from pressing the power button to their out-of-date bloated asses to finally log in. Really takes me back.XP was something else. It COULD be fast and svelte and amazing... but usually it ended up a turd with 30 toolbars, 4 different antiviruses, 10 different random ass apps starting at boot.Windows was only "fast" when it was a fresh installation. And even then many out-of-the-box linux installs were faster.
>>544302210>antivirusesKek, retard detectedt. never privately used antivirus in his 30 year winblows carreer
>>544302042It does emulate the hard drive speed. 86box is a very resource heavy program because it's emulating all of the hardware.
>>544294514thankou mate
>>544302280I never said I did that. I just said that's how it ended up.You ever let your boomer parents operate a windows XP computer? Thing gets bogged down to an almost unusable state within months.
>>544301916It wasn’t really DOS, stop saying it. It shipped with DOS and you could dual boot to DOS by default. But the system was running on a full 32-bit hybrid kernel called Virtual Machine Manager VMM32.VXD and that’s were all the high performance drivers would run. This is lost technology but it was doing great and predates modern trends. The windowing system itself was running in a virtual machine
>>544295567Not a professional but have them all running happy om a 2011 imac (running linux mint). Super small and light weight, loads instantly. Mostly use the light room alternative. Works cosy.
>>544294543t-touche?
>>544302468>The windowing system itself was running in a virtual machineBack then "virtual machine" usually meant just virtualized memory and context switching. An actual "virtual machine" would've required software emulation back then.That term has evolved a bit since the mid 90s.But yeah. It was a hell of a lot different from DOS.
>>544301643you could barely watch porn on win95just 12 sec pixelated clips that took 8 hours to download
>>544292875im using word 2007loads in like 3 secondsi heard they made word monthly or some shit lmaois that true?
Why would you use some AI garbage when Works '97 does everything you will ever need? It even includes probably one of the best equation editors / math formatters of all computer history.MS Works '97. That is some FINELY honed software.
>>544292875I do not remember Windows 95 being this fast. Something is fishy.
I was there and while it was better, it wasn't that fast.
>>544292875That's the speed it was fresh out the box but the machine slowed way down after about a year
>>544294412Win7 was the last good windows version.
>ssd as a root drive with all your programs>hdd for home directory mass storageI bought an 8tb laptop drive back not too long ago. Must be a grand now lel. I have 140TB of online storage but much of it is free, I should hord data and rip and burn like that one anon is all about.q
>>544292875This is a lieFree installation of win 95 was 100mb fastest hdds of the time had 15mbs transferkys zoomer tardsand intel 166 mhz is more windows 98 cpu maybe even windows NT cpuagainkys zoom tards
>>544302714That's connection speed... Has nothing to do with this discussion.
>>544302834It's a fresh install and computer illiteracy back then led to a lot of home computers getting extremely slow due to a bunch of shit software and not know how to even defrag..
>>544303049It's 86box. It's very accurate.
>>544292875dude this is such a lie, i had win 95 on my computer when I was a kid and i specifically remember being able to take a shit and make a hot chocolate before the OS would load.
>>544294412Windows 11 doesn't boot fast anynore because there's so much garbage and bloat shoved into every function.Even after a major debloating it took windows 11 over twice as long to boot as windows 7 did, while 11 is on better hardware.
why does it feel like technology is getting shittier instead of better? my pc in 2004 did everything I could want it to. it had high speed internet instead of dialup, a dvd drive, it didn't crash every 12 hours like my old pc with windows me, and it could play all of the games I bought. literally none of the "features" that have been added in the last 22 years were things I was asking for. the same goes for all of the programs and websites I use. everything is worse and less convenient now.
>>544303096its fucking not accurate at allwhat is confirmation that it is apart devfag claiming it is?
>>544303081why would you defrag fresh installation of win95
>>544292875I'm telling you anon, my 486DX2 didnt load Windows 95 anywhere near that fast.
>>544303139It emulates the speed of all of the hardware, it does not work like a virtual machgine. I'm not explaining it all to you, it's free and you can try it out. I already said the iso files are on winworld and the archive. Look it up. Bit of a rabbit hole but it is very accurate.
>>544303165I was explaining one of the many issues why bootups were slow back then. People were computer illiterate as fuck. You wouldn't defrag a fresh installation I never said that.
>>544303199Any 486dx is way slower than a pentium mmx 166. Even the fastest variants of it.
>>544303212why are you defending fake shit themthis is not how win95 booted ever
>>544292875Kek at typing nigger
>>544292875I know factories that still operate the machines with windows 95
>>544301507at least they tried new things, current Microsoft just gave up and goes full on Jeet shit.
>>544303253Obviously? What's your point? My next PC after the 486 was a Pentium 200 MMX IIRC.
>>544303253>implying win95 load time was cpu limitedzoomers will never understand
That's running on an emulator. Of course it's fast.Now go run it on a real 386 or 486 like most people had back in the day(I actually own a 486DX2-66 machine with 8 MB RAM and installed Windows 95 on it. I quickly replaced it with Windows 3.1 because it was unusably slow. It also ate up nearly all of the free space on the HDD.)
>>544302695Nah there was the vmm86 mode that was quite a real virtual machine. Was meant to run multiple DOS software protecting each other in a multitasking way
>>544292875No, Windows didnt boot as fast 30 years ago. Most people had average to shitty PCs. Stuff you bought the previous few years ago was already obsolete and couldn't run the current games you wanted without upgrading.
>>544303276Yea it did. This emulated machine if it were real with that exact installation would boot like that. If 86box is any faster it's because it runs the emulated hardware best case scenario speeds (the exact speed it's intended to run). That difference in speed isn't worth mentioning.
>>544303368I'm almost 40.
>>544303396>Now go run it on a real 386 or 486 like most people had back in the dayUh that is not what most people were using with windows 95. The emulated hardware in Op's video is very period correct. Don't believe me, just look it up.
>>544303456your emulated shit is shit it didnt work like thatThe only way to see how windows 95 booted on specific machine is to use that exact machineEmulators are fake and gay
>>544303442This is a pretty entry to mid low spec pc for the time period if you bought a computer post windows 95 release. 1995 to 1997. It's a very fair example.
>>544303508>?The emulated hardware in Op's video is very period correct. Don't believe me, just look it ok.stfu nigger486 dx2 66 to 100 mhz or pentium 66 to 100 mhz was basically only thing of the timeMMX tech wasnt even included in win95 niggerholy fucking shit no wonder everything is crash burning
>>544292875>even including hard drive speedlmao only zoomies could be tricked by those claims. w95 couldn't recover from minimal sleep mode that fast let alone a cold boot. Anyone who actually used the relevant hardware at the time knows damn well how it ran.
>>544303514No they're not fake and gay lol.Your modern hardware running the emulator does not run the emulated hardware any faster than it's meant to run. This is not a virtual machine. This is not even dosbox. This is 86box, a true and accurate emulator. You can learn all about it yourself.
>>544292875I'm more impress by the 32MB of memory.Why the fuck modern need multiple GB even if there is nothing running? Even on Linux.
>>544303626>Your modern hardware running the emulator does not run the emulated hardware any faster than it's meant to runcan PS emulator on PC allow you to uncap FPS?see how dumb your shit sounds
>>544303559>MMX tech wasnt even included in win95 niggerRegular pentium which isn't that different was released before windows 95 was out. The slowest pentium (a 75mhz) was almost tied with the absolute fastest 486dx variant there was. 90mhz is a far more likely cpu someone had though, 75 was not too common. Most people ran windows 95 on a pentium, pentium mmx, or pentium 2 or 3 (if they didn't want to use windows 98).
>>544303554Are you taking the piss? The Pentium 166MMX wasnt even fucking introduced until the year after Windows 95 came out, and it was around $500 6 months afters its release for the processor alone, you'd be looking at a $1,800+ price tag on a PC that was using one in 1996 or 1997 until the Pentium 200 MMX came out. That was NOT the average users PC specs at the time.
>>544303686We're talking about 86box. Dude don't ask me go fucking learn about it holy shit.
>>544303659>I'm more impress by the 32MB of memory.In early 1990s that amount of memory cost thousands of dollarsWe are going back to those days....
>Most people ran windows 95 on a pentium, pentium mmx, or pentium 2 or 3 (if they didn't want to use windows 98).you farmer or some shit
>>544303714Fun fact pre-builts were expensive back then. The mmx 166 would have been pretty typical for a mid level 1997 machine.
>We're talking about 86box. Dude don't ask me go fucking learn about it holy shit.yea you cant override 86box with faster performance on modern hardware like you can do on play-station emulator for PC cause magic barrier
>>544303771Are you actually Serbian? If you are maybe that would explain the difference in lived experience. I am explaining the US market. This machine in the videos sits at about 1996-1997 in terms of speed.
>>544292875>This was 32 years agoused win 95 in its day with contemporary pcs and i remember waiting for minutes on the win startup animation. thats on a high end pc that costed 1000 dollars
>>544303825You can't... If someone wanted to fuck with it like that what would be the fun in that anyway? No, 86box emulates the speed of the emulated hardware. Period. Go use it. For the last time. Don't argue with me and go use it. You seem like you would be interested anyway.
Yeah nobody had a PC that fast in the mid 90s it took a few minutes to boot typically
>>544292875whoa that baby got a nvme in it or what!?
>>544303866im not going to give traction to shit jeet projects niggerif i see end result and i see its fucking wrong, there is no need to use it or check it further
>>544303998I don't know what to tell you other than you're just wrong. This machine, fresh install, this is how it would boot windows 95. Does that mean your computer illiterate dad's windows 95 machine that had windows 95 put on it two years ago seemed to boot this fast to you when you were younger? Of course not. But with 86box you could emulate your dad's machine as well, theoretically anyway you'd need an exact hdd image.
>>5442928752010 I was running win 95 playing cs 1.6 on steam with a p3 800mhz, an amd 9200 pci, and either 128 or 256 mb ram, cant remember that one. 640x480 low settings but still over 30 fps. This tracks, it would fucking take like a day to defrag the drive but it was pretty playable.
>>544303472Then don’t you remember the scratching noises of the swap file on disk each time you moved the mouse? Don’t you remember the abhorrent music that was playing while the whole thing was still half loaded? Don’t you remember that any software you would install was trying to take over your pc completely installing startup tray applets and useless trashy splash screens? And that uninstalling said app wouldn’t restore the previous state by any measure. Don’t you remember that an antivirus was obligatory, but all of them were bloated? Don’t you remember how Microsoft itself sabotaged the product with the Me version?
>>544304328>And that uninstalling said appthey weren't called apps
>>544294264Linux is communism tho, if you hate communism and leftism uninstall that shit and use windows 11 insteadCopilot is actually really good btw
>>544304355I agree
>>544303122Checked and honestly I think it must be Satan that's responsible.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJixMjW_Os4
>>544304083It's crazy what we had back then. I remember playing WoW The Burning Crusade back in 2007 or so, on a PC with 512MB of ram and a 32MB graphics card, it was perfect.Now I have 64 gigs of RAM and a 24GB graphics card and games feel like crap.
>>544304429Linux was libertarian. Certainly not communist. Nowadays it seems like Linux is becoming a leftist corporativist liberal shit, but back then it was absolutely libertarian
>>544292875My pc boots faster than this lol
>>544304491somewhere around 1080TI release hardware and software niggers realized that need for new hardware is nonexistent.So bloat was introduced.Thats why games looks same or worse than 15 years ago and run 10x slowerIts by design, jeet codemonkeys or white codemonkeys making it., doesnt matter, they all get cash under desk from jewvidia shintel and scamd to make their shit as bloated as possible
>>544304328I remember. The thread is about spaghetti code and bloat though. We shouldn't need to wait on our computers anymore. Your cpu is probably 1000x faster than an mmx 166. You probably have 16-32gb of ram, not 32mb.
>>544304576I’m very satisfied by Windows 11 nowadays. They did a great job with the terminal, in particular and everything (a part updates) run smoothly
Pen and paper is faster.
>>544304576I had a Pentium 110Mhz with 16 mb of ram back then. That was very expensive for my father and barely usable for me
This applies to all software. People back in the day HAD to make it small, efficient and fast because of the hardware. So something like Windows 95 didn't have all the BS modern Windows has because it literally couldn't afford to. Now everything is a webapp coded in jeethon/jeetscript by jeets or LLMs. People don't care about the quality anymore.
>>544304571True that's why old hardware and software is so much more interesting.
>>544292875can't it be redone? not with vibe coding but is there anyone on earth capable of copying old tech with new techniques?some guy is selling an iPod breadboard so you can connect to Bluetooth and stuff.shouldn't revisiting old tech be simple? what's stopping someone from creating a bootleg windows 95 but that works with modern tech? no bloat or spyware. right before you get murdered you'd be a hero because that's obviously what everyone wants.so why not
>>544304850Just run the old software, what's so tough about that?
>>544304850Building a kernel and user space programs is a monumental task that can't really be done by a single person (there are some exceptional people like Terry Davis, but that's like one in a generation). Other thing is tech debt, ie. most programs are made for either Windows or Linux. Then there are proprietary drivers
that was slow as shit boi
>>544304850AI is currently decompiling everything, don't you member the photoshop AI copy thread?This means you can decompile old programs and games and redo them how (you) wish
>>544304850making what you imaged there with win10 would be almost impossible taskand you want to do that on 30 year od software that even during its era couldnt not recognize mouse being plugged in without hard reset
>>544292875better to just compare something like visual studio to Windows XP visual studio. With min requirements it loads in like 2 seconds, uses 1% the RAM, and it's practically the exact same program as today but just with no telemetry or jeetware bloat.
>>544304981It more likely that AI is faking decompiling while actually having access to source code interesting what software they picked to reverse engineer
>>544304888as someone still stuck on wangblows 7 for various reasons running old software is fine if you don't want to connect to the internet. most modern websites flat out won't work if you try to open them with netscape navigator and half of them will break anyway even with a modern, but non-jewgled browser like pale moon. jewgle uses their cronies at cloudflare to exclude non-chrome or chrome-like browsers from the internet, and they made it so you need a modern os to use chrome.
>>544301887ok grandpa
>>544292875That Word user-interface is so much nicer than the modern ones. What a regression.
>>544305413firefox exists man
>>544295161are you aware win 7 hasn't been secure for 6 years?
>>544305413Just use converters. RTF, PDF. PS, EPS. TIFF and JIFF and GIF.
>>544305472you mean its not getting security updates from jeetsoft?How is that bad?Nobody is hacking or targeting home users, this is just scare tactics
>>544292875you cant play unreal engine games on this shitbox. we dont need word or the dxdiag. what are we getting with the new windows.windows 11 has some amazing features, you make 10 other desktops in the background with a game running on desktop 1 and photoshop on desktop 2 and on desktop 3 you open a textfile.you can make even more than 10 desktops.also my browser can run 5 videos in hd at the same time and it all runs smooth.this 386 piece of shit cant even run ONE video in 4k it will have 2 frames or so.
they toook nothing from you, retard. you made this up in your retarded widnat head that something that go improved is now worse because youre so fucking stupid.ITS YOU.
>>544305611it's not about "targeting", it's that any web page you open could be some jeet phishing site because browsers have dropped support a long time ago too. this board is so full of contrarian brainlets they'd actually use an OS riddled with vulnerabilities just to be edgy. just install linux and use a windows 7 theme retard
>>544292875There used to be a setting you could change to speed up loading, because Windows had a built-in default display time for the logo. Like 30 sec or something, I don't remember. I want to say you had to add something to the autoconfig.bat, but this was so long ago, I don't remember anymore.I still run Win 7, some of my software is like 20 years old. It still works fine for all of my daily purposes, just I wouldn't be able to play the fancier games of now. I probably need to think about what to do when my computer finally really kicks the can. It's already on like its third hard drive and second or third fan.
just like the white girlfriend you never touched because yOURE A FAGHGGOOOOT LMAO.its no ones fault but your own!!!!!!!ITS YOU!!!!!!! i had so many girlfriends i cant even recall their names HAHAHAHHA.
>>544305014then do it the right way. the latest windows suck. tech has gotten more powerful and the software is bullshit. linux isn't popular and is the onlg alternative.why can't I get the barebones, basic operability, stripped down easy peasy version that just works. >it wouldn't recognize a mouseyeah but why>>544304922>building a kernal is hardok. idk what that means so I'll believe you.this isn't something they had been worked out? open-source project, a gitHub cheat sheet. a bootleg stolen version.I'm just surprised that they've managed to keep everything so tightly controlled. and now they're blowing up yandex so we'll really only have a single choice and it'll be totally locked down
>>544305771nigger i didnt update win 10 since 2019, you are fucking retarded.
>>544292875Ok now do this on the hardware that existed back then with 32 Kilobytes of ram. Not so fun is it?
>>544303055sign of the times, retardonly nordic countries had high speed internet back then
>>544302903>t. zoomer
>>544304328yeah, i remember all that shitsoftware was wild west, but still funthe internet was fucking amazing back thenbut yes, computer hardware was fuckin garbagebut i did eventually get a cool Sony pc that came with a video capture card and other media stuff, which halfway worked
>whole thread full technologically illiterate of people who have never heard of DDR5 ram trainingmy windows 10 PC posts in like 10 seconds because I have an am4 platform with ddr4. as much as modern windows sucks the boot up speed of your computer is very unlikely to be just that.
>>544292875False equivalence you idiot, operating systems expand over time, which doesnt always keep pace with compute. My p620 threadripper with Win 11 runs that fast anyway
>>544305344You think AI has access to Adobes source code?
this is absolutely false, i used to walk away from the computer and get a comfy glass of milk and come back to the win 95 or 98 or xp screen still booting, shit took at least 2-5 mins to fully boot including after explorer.exe launched to the point where word was able to launch with the type of hardware people were running commonly back then.
>>544292875I only ever see tinker trannies seething about this. We have 2026 maybe you should have upgraded your 4GB ram stick a long time ago. I have win 11 and deleted all the AI nonsense and it works great, I have 16gb ram currently and with gaming it never goes above that no matter what I play. What I do think is bad is that win 11 feels like it's just a new layer of win put over an old windows. They should start from scratch instead of putting more and more shit on top of the old.If Linux wasn't so retarded and had actual support then I would change too but where even start? There are trillion different versions and everyone says a different one is the right one. Why can't they make a user friendly distro for once where everything just works and can be used for normal users who barely know anything about PCs?They usually just say 'works on my PC' and for basic functions you should just ask AI or reddit.And then they wonder why no one wants to use Linux and all people continue to use windows instead
>>544294264kek, jewnux is so jeeted nowadays it takes days to boot even without gui
>>544294264Linux is tranny-coded trash. It's ok for servers, but the only people who use linux as their primary desktop OS are discord trannies and fat adult virgin nerds.No professional who is actually using their computer for serious work uses fucking Linux.
>>544292875I have to enter six passwords and an authenticator to log onto my work computer.
Bloatware
>>544307758>Breaks your system on patch tuesdayNothing personal kid!Really though Windows and Microsoft are a sinking ship. Best to make your peace with that at this point. And it's not going to get better. Especially with knowing how many Jeets they employ.
>>544307758>Why can't they make a user friendly distro for once where everything just works and can be used for normal users who barely know anything about PCs?They do. It's called Red Hat Enterprise Linux.
>>544307838I have a Nvidia 5070 and I've heard Linux and Nvidia is just pure trouble with endless tinkering for these cards.Playing games became easier they said when you play over steam but what about all the cracked games? They surely won't work so easy if at all right?
>>544307914Why would anyone put some enterprise system in their home PC? Normal people don't have a data centrum at home.
>>544301355Windows 95 took much longer to load than that on every machine in existence during that era. I was there.
>>544292875>LiesThats a virtualization on current hardware. I lived back then. I am that old. Those computers were slow as fuck!
>>5443077810.1 jeetcoins were deposited in your account.
>>544292875just buy a rack of gpus and the best intel chip with mossad backdoor and your windows 12 will work through the "bloat of progress" just fine.
you also have to consider that Windows 95 was loading on mechanical hard drives at time so going back and discovering the load times are so quick on modern solid state drives is not actually that impressive
>>544308138there is sometimes a little tinkering, but once you've got it working it works, so it's not endlesssome games you simply can't play, some games run smoother and faster, some games have a linux native versionmost things I've tried just run with no effortyou can check compatibility on:https://www.protondb.com/it would be a lie to say there aren't drawbacks, and there is tinkering, but the point is that Linux actually puts you in control of your own machine moreso than a corporate OS does, especially with things like NixOS where you're essentially speccing out your own custom operating system, so there's nothing you don't want, and absolutely everything is to your taste - you can even set up your spec ('flake') to recognise which of your computers it's on, customising what gets installed / updated based on thatdeclarative, automated, reproducible, and European - it feels like the futureI would highly recommend at least dabbling with it on one of your machines>Playing games became easier they said when you play over steam but what about all the cracked games? They surely won't work so easy if at all right?you can use the exact same Steam Runtime Tools and Steam Linux Runtime in a standalone mode with things like 'umu-launcher'and you've also got 'Lutris' which is very much like Steam but for non-Steam games, and has simple installers for even obscure things like the PC port of Perfect Darksome people prefer 'Bottles' because it offers more control, but doesn't have a 'library' feel AFAIKyou just add what you want to your flake like this:programs.steam.enable = true;environment.systemPackages = with pkgs; [ umu-launcher lutris bottles pcsx2 dolphin];update, and it's magically on your system with a restarttry it - it's free!
>>544309066>update, and it's magically on your system with a restartsorry, that's *without* a restartyou can rebuild a large portion of your operating system live and switch over instantly
>>544292875That is booting on modern hardware still. 95 took a couple of minutes to boot back then at the best. Most people would start it and go do other things. As a kid I would boot it when I got home from school. By time I had shoes and socks off, backpack put up and had talked with parents about my day and got back then it almost was done booting. But my parents would keep getting bloatware on it. I would open IE and it would have 10 toolbars. Then my vidya was always blamed for slowing the computer down.My current desktop can boot in 7 seconds. Half of that is bios time. If your current computer is slow just jewgle disabling hibernate and disabling fast boot. You normies probably are doubling your boot time with those.
>>544294483>Unironically jeet code."Jenga" programming is the term I hear a lot.Taking blocks of script from one place, and pasting it in another with no real comprehension as to what that does, or how it compiles.
>>544307781If you’re a retard selling your soul to a corporate career then Linux is probably not a good OS for you.
>>544309066NixOS is god-tier. I’m never going back.
>>544309220i never got into programming, but i was designing websites very early on and even that work seemed to be much cleaner than the shit i sometimes see from jeets today
>>544307781I recently switched from jeetdos to linux and im not going back tranny.
>>544294412windows 11 needs 4s to load explorer its a piece of shit. Using it on a 2020 laptop that cost 3k€
>>544309066I understand most of the things you said but what's so important about you being in total control of the system and just want plug and play? Most tests Linux gives lower fps than current win 11 so what's the real selling point if you don't give a shit that you can't configure your entire OS? My new PC is a few months old and everything worked from the start no bug or failure whatsoever. While with Linux there's is always something to do first or problems coming up many times from what the Linux users write online.
>>544309552>what's so important about you being in total control of the systemFirst of all, you’d have to understand sovereignty and Germans have none.
>>544309646You're circumcised
>>544309552if you do just want a premasticated experience where you get what you're given, you don't care that something you paid a lot of money for isn't really under your control, and you're unbothered by the American man standing in your office taking notes on you and selling your data, then there's probably not anything of importance to you, to be honestbut personally I don't like being technologically-infantilised to the point that I'm trapped in a corporate walled garden and made into digital chattel, so changing a line in a config to get a game working isn't particularly daunting to me, thus there's not really an argument to not use NixOS, when most things do work of the box, and I get all the other benefits as well
>>544292875Bullshit. A 486 took like 5 min to boot. It was about a minute to POST. I was there, retard. You'd turn on the pc and go make coffee or tea while you waited. My current PC boots to windows in about 30 seconds.
>>544310232yeah, that retard spent 25 posts larping about the speed or is an outright idiot or lying shill
>>544310153As long as they don't brick your hardware because you said nigger online I don't care and that seems to be the case for most people.I download stuff then click exe and it starts, that's what people want.
>>544310296286 and 386 booted faster, but that was on windows 1 and 2. 3.1 and 95 were also still dos programs so they took a long time to load. Prior to 98, and even really NT or ME kernel branch, windows was a giant DOS front-end, not a true OS. It's like those Chinese NES fake carts now. The 'OS' is entirely made on a pirated NES BASIC cart and programmed in BASIC.
>>544301355Calling BS. I just cleared out some old compaq presario computers and took them home to play around before throwing them away. Brought back so many memories, one of which was to power on the box, then go get something to drink, come back and wait another minute to finish loading. The only time it was faster was a custom boot to olay DOOM or Duke Nukem.
>>544301572ok kid bet you never waited on a tv to warm up either
>>544301355>I don't understand the difference between clock cycles and speedWant to REALLY test if it's accurate? Run a game like 7th guest and do the microscope puzzle. The 'AI' skill was hard set to processor speed. If you can't beat it easily (it's just a game of reversi) it isn't the real speed. Even a P75 was difficult to beat that puzzle.
>>544310532>before throwing them awayYou know these retro machines are extremely sought for and get great prices?
>>544292875lol noMy family had a win95 machine back in the 90s, restarting it was like a multi minute process
>>544294573> my Linux laptopWhat are you? A Commie? We don't like your kind here!
>>544310597>that delay between the gun and audio working and the phospors getting excited
>>544310313you seem to be trying to make an argumentum ad populum>most people>that's what people wantmost people are fundamentally stupid slaves who're glad of their condition because it absolves them of the responsibility of thoughtwhat most people want is exactly what they're told to want, whether that be cardboard-and-foam shoes which light up on their feet, or experimental quasi gene therapies in their armthese are the 'most people' who your argument appeals to; 'most people' are not something to aspire to beif you can't understand why somebody would want freedom and choice when it comes to their personal computing, then there's nothing whatsoever precluding you from being 'most people' - I was simply presenting you with an alternative
>>544303212have you ever heard an hdd spin up? took forever to load youre just a troll
Can you accurately emulate the sound blaster 16 cards doing these VMs? I've never done one before, I'm curious about it. It would be cool to find a bunch of the gateway booklet software and go through it all, like Encarta.
>>544310640Only certain ones. A random zoomie may want A 486 or P75. Way more exist than are worth anything. It's like having an old Hammond organ, only certain models have any value.
>>544304429This is only a cope that retards that don't know how to use Linux say.Muh communism. Enjoy your spyware, fag.
>>544310767They are better at Gravis and midi for some reason. The SB they are good at it obviously pro2. I can never get the SB/adlib combo i had in hardware to emulate right
>>544292875>They took this from you.I never upgraded from Hotdog stand.
>>544304670Terminal LOLIt's DOS and it's fucking gay. Windows sucks and always has. This is Gaymer cope to justify still using that shit.
>>544310767That said they will emulate sb16, your speaker just won't ping like they used to either.
>>544310640Sure. Ill just pile them up in my garage with all my other stuff, and wait 2 years for some faggy German kid to offer me $200 for a $250 listing, then pay ebay 14% cut, haul the 50 lb motherfucker to the post office, wrangle the bitch to the counter, and ship it off so some faggot can realize he doesnt have the right 7-pin keyboard to run it. How much is your time worth anyway? The fucking battery for the CPU was a Dallas- have you ever had to replace one? Get real.
>>544310865Strong bad win 98 theme was better.
>>544307781You don't know anyone doing real, hardcore scientific computing. I sshfs supercomputers and run local tools on their filesystems. I use ssh control master tunnels to maintain perpetual connections and send jobs to the login node without actually working on the remote. The ecosystems are the same meaning my tools are blazing fast and I can use software they expressly forbid to do my shit since they can't see into what I'm doing besides see bits move back and forth.
>>544295161>>544295223Win 10 and 11 simply reuse page files with system info if you do a "shutdown" and a cold boot but erase everything and reconstruct everything if you do a flying "restart" which of course takes much longer. Not really intuitive, I know, but this is how it is.
>>544294232What kind of cncs?t. Curious fellow machinist
>>544310914Lazy.
>>544310853That sucks. I feel like I'll never hear the the music from 90s-era PC games running in that sound font ever again. Every time I look up a YouTube video or something demonstrating the different fonts, the SB16 stuff never sounds quite right to me. It doesn't sound as "full" as it actually did.
>>544310865kek. I forgot about Hotdog Stand.
>>544298298Even Vi had it!
>>544310914>Dallas>He doesn't know how to solder a CR2032 onto a DALLASNGMIYeah but i can understand, 200$ is no money for an American
>>544310920Kek
>>544310961I think it's literally the physical speakers.
>>544292875lol install one program and see how quick it starts up.
>>544307781I'm a big dicked Chad with more real hands on skills, education, and degrees than you. I can't stand leftards. I refuse to use Windows Jeetware. You're just coping because you're too retarded to learn.
>>544292875AI will make this better you retard. Jeetslop is why MS shit is so slow. They should just tell the AI to rewrite it all on Rust
>>544292875windows always was trash, buggy and unstable, but today jeets made it unusable
>>544301812And uhm... What else do you REALLY need?
>>544310853>GravisDid you know you can get gravis ultrasound midi style cards nowadays which include a raspi and do great midi sound for ~70$? Got one and it's great
>>544310870>Terry_Davis_about_when_computers_went_wrong.webm
>>544311013That is so easy to desolder and solder on. What is the issue with everyone being so fucking lazy and incompetent?$200 is great money if you know what to do with it like put it towards investments or know how to save and not touch it. This guy is just a lazy fat guy.
>>544311088Skifree. I'm GOING to beat that abomination
>>544311013soldering the 2032 is easy- desoldering the Dallas was no fun, and pray you didnt fuck up the pins on removal or reinstall, and pray there was enough room for the disk drive to go back in. These werent towers like today. They were horizontal chassis that Compaq did not want you getting inside.
>>544292875>This is a total PC simulation even including hard drive speedThen it's a shitty one. Some of us were there, dude. It wasn't like this.
>>544294543Windows is a virus >>544301355I had a 286 with a turbo button. Ran dos, windoze 3.x, 95, etc. two 5.25" floppies and a cassette. Later a 3.5", a zip drive, a jazz drive. 100 mb hdd back in the 80s. Bought Space Quest on CompuServe back in like 88.Boot took forever and made a ton of funky noises. You have no idea.
>>544311153Go dig them out of the dumpster- there were probably 3 dozen of them.
>>544311179I do not see how this is different than a lot of Lenovo laptops from the past 10 years having a locked CMOS battery in the case that was not removable. Sometimes you have to reset it in order to clear the BIOS in order to install a different operating system I just did that earlier this year and yeah you just have to be careful. Easy money though.
>>544311218Tell me where
>>544311179>desoldering the DallasIf it's not socketed it's PITA, true>fuck up the pinsPretty much impossible, the pins on DALLAS are very flexible and don't break easily, not like that replacement i got where the golden pin broke instantly after i pulled it.
>>544292875Commodore 64 boots in less than one second. With the new C64 Ultimate, why aren't you Commodore-Maxxing?
>>544311299>Commodore-MaxxingWe got TempleOS for that purpose
>>544311251>spend $350 of your time to receive $200 after waiting 2 years. And youre the faggot telling me how to invest. It is cool old shit and I hope you find some out there. But theyre only good for bringing back memories, not creating new ones.
>>544311342I'm not telling you how to invest I'm just saying that you are not motivated enough to make money. You are probably very comfortable, congratulations.It is great for retro gaming and for collectors including myself for a hobby it doesn't have to be for productivity. That being said there are plenty of nerds that will pay for it as long as you make them pay for shipping.
>>544295619No it wasn't. Hardware was slow as fuck even with dos, but how many old people are here anyway?also, no one here is accounting the long time that it took to count the ram in laptops.And those old maxtor drives were really slow
>>544292875Hit me right in the feelz. Nostalgia bros
https://youtu.be/OTDNECHVtoQ?is=IKGlh-zPd8Nw3gxO
>>544311406My old ass boomer advice: focus on the Optiplexes while they are still available and tune them up. Theyll be vintage soon enough and you can make money reselling them as gaming consoles for all the kids.
>>544301868>Windows ntIf you look under the hood of even windows 11 it's still based on NT kek
>>544311562>NTSo what? It's the best kernel ever made.In fact some DEC guy that also made the OpenVMS kernel wrote it.It's good old white people tech that still works after 40 yearsIt's the jewish bloat that makes it bad
>>544292875itt: a bunch of bill gates dick sucking faggots
>>544295161Based win7 enjoyer. I still have a win7 desktop PC and it's very fast. I recently bought a laptop with win11 just because I wanted a laptop. I also do like MSFT teams for interviews and have visual studio installed so I needed a laptop. Additionally, for traveling. But win7 is super based and probably the pinnacle when it comes to speed and reliability. All the comforts of a modern OS without the bloat. I remember it's hard asf to find versions of software that run on it though. That's the only nice thing about win11 is you can download the latest of everything and it runs without having to track down which version of some program runs on win7
>>544311650>It's good old white people tech that still works after 40 years>It's the jewish bloat that makes it badyep I agree. It's just funny when you go into certain registry settings or the system folder and find remnants of good ol NT! I still find them from time to time working on modern servers
>>544292875Kek, nigga, I was running a 486 DX2 66MHzwith 4mb of RAM and a slow ass 160mb, 3,600rpm HDD. Started on 3.11, but upgraded to 95 and 8mb of RAM at some point. Had to boot DOS into Himem to get Doom to run. The total PC sim you're runing here has 2GB of page file and 32mb of RAM on a fucking 166MHz Pentium MMX would be like speccing out a fucking top end gaming rig with a 5090 today.
>>544311802My guess is that you will forever find them in the future because no one in 2026 has knowledge to write a proper OS kernel.And in my opinion the days of winblows are counted. Fuck this shit
>>544292875The fuck are you retards on about? is it opposite day? Win95 took 2-3 minutes on any computer normal people had back then. 98 was worse, XP better, Vista much worse, 7 better. Win 11 pro on nvme takes literally 10-15 seconds from the moment I push the power button to the moment I'm on my desktop.
>>544312085Yeah these zoomers are retards and talking out their ass. I used to go make coffee while my computer was booting up and get back and it was still booting.
>>544312010>My guess is that you will forever find them in the future because no one in 2026 has knowledge to write a proper OS kernel.NT was just so good they can't improve it I guess?>And in my opinion the days of winblows are counted. Fuck this shitThat will be interesting. I think it'll probably keep going due to entropy. Companies are moving server apps into Azure due to not having to constantly update the servers and fix security issue. That's what I do for a living. But Apple isn't really an option, the apple IDE xCode is unbelievably garbage. I thought MSFT sucked until I had a job fixing an apple app using xCode. Apple is so shitty that no wonder most companies run winblows. It really made me appreciate Visual Studio>>544312085>Win 11 pro on nvme takes literally 10-15 seconds from the moment I push the power button to the moment I'm on my desktop.My win11 laptop actually boots surprisingly fast. I think it's a snapdragon processor. It's a lenovo and wasn't very expensive. Works for what I do (shitpost on 4chan mostly)
>>544292875>Here's how fast Windows 95 boots upfoh, it never started that fast with the shitbox hardware we had back then
>>544292875>>544292923It takes my i9 14900K ~30 secs from power-off to Windows 11 desktop with gpt-oss-120b taking like another ~30 secs to load...I think most people have shit-tier hardware and configuration skills.
>>544292875My win 11 pc boots this fast now. Stop being a poor fag and get name drives.
>>544307781>No professional who is actually using their computer for serious work uses fucking Linux.
>>544312282I’m running a 9950x3D with a 5090 32GB and 64 GB of RAM, everything seems to run pretty smoothly and quickly for me. Honestly that should be the minimum build out if you want decent performance in 2026. I need to upgrade to 128 GB of RAM and install a second 5090 at some point.
>>544312392Linux is more of a server thing though?
>>544292875Windows 7 was peak baseline operating system efficiency. I mean it allowed the user to refine the process of computing the way they wanted to and gave them the largest amount of freedom and creativity. Everything beyond has been disaster after disaster because they have moved so far away from efficiency that they don't even pretend to conceal the bloat anymore. They just expect you to buy a 5 thousand dollar graphics card and 20 thousand dollars of ram in order to achieve high performance. Win 11 has hundreds of processes and executables running in the background, ai probing and sensors, facial scans, voice recording, all built directly into default systems like the ones for opening Word and notepad.
All you>Muh it took ages to bootmade me make a video of my Win98 machine booting. This is on a spinning mechanical HDD. See the responsiveness? Show me how long it takes on your Ryzen 3120980XXL Trillion Core machine with tens of zetabytes of RAM to open the device manager
>>544312584>Windows 7 was peak baseline operating system efficiency.It's true. My Win7 desktop PC has literally 30 processes running at idle>checks task manager204 fucking processes right now in win11. Sigh, if only you could find people who still made laptops that run win7
>>544298298have they made a modern-AI-powered Clippy yet?
>>544312773Everybody absolutely despised Clippy back when he was a thing so it would be shitty marketing. Also no one actually has MS Office anymore, it's basically strictly a corporate product now like Flight Simulator used to be before they sold it as a video game.
>>544312692You could easily monitor what was going on within your os with win 7. Their trojans were easy to defend against, now it's impossible. Which of the hundreds of processes is being used to do things I don't want it to. What's even worse is they made it so it's not even under our control, it's constantly pinging routers and ips connected to Microsoft (located someplace in India or south Asia) I've accepted it, we've no way to regain control of anything and the future society will be built inefficiency, scams, and cons to trick people bad is good, forever. Like a nightmare.
>>544296673Yes! And now the C64U is out. No reason not to C64 maxx.
>>544312913I totally agree. Love win7. I'm on a laptop though rn. Still have the win7 desktop. It's just hard asf to find software that runs in Win7. I absolutely love win7. Peak OS imo. I clung to winXP 64bit for years past its expiration date kek
>>544292875>be me>actual info technologist>laugh at all the laymen in this thread>do a 360 and leave
>>544312166>I used to go make coffee while my computer was booting up and get back and it was still booting.fuckin samei barely remember it thoit was worth it....the internet and the people were so much betterwish i kept in touch with more of the people...only a few left
>>544310955early 2000's mazak 410 and QT200.
>>544312425No, not just servers. In software dev, the only reason to use Windows is if developing native Windows apps and vidya, which are massive markets of course. But Windows sucks horrifically for everything else. That's why 1/3 of Windows developers end up using WSL.
>>544301230jews have an AI monopoly, anon is jewish
>>544313252>In software dev, the only reason to use Windows is if developing native Windows apps and vidyaThe market is actually moving to Azure rather than windows. But most companies still use windows for their laptops due to office 365 and teams. It is what it is. Could be worse. Try using apple for a bit. I'm not sure about linux but apple is complete garbage in every way. I had to google how to do basic shit in their stupid ide Xcode and even trying to do basic operating system stuff like going up a level isn't simple. It really made me appreciate winblows
Someone out there using AI as we speak to make a really good OS
>>544313252If I were to develop anything I would do it in a Windows 7 environment or as close to that as I could. It's the only OS you can still get a good base line reading with. You'll never achieve anything anywhere near it with Linux, it's highly inefficient and extremely tedious nonsense. If it were any kind of app I would use c# for the framework, if I had to use 3d environment it would be an older iteration of Unity or Unreal that had cross platform working using Win 7. AI enhanced older applications look as good if not better than somethings of today and are WORLDs apart in terms of performance yet the performance costs and needs seem to keep getting exponentially worse, they've gone and transcended comically inefficient.
>>544313386>apple is complete garbageElaborate? I love how MacOS doesn't bug you with notifications, update bullshit and whatnot and just werksAlso i love to have my HW and SW from the same vendor and Apple is the only one left who does this.
>>544313536>Someone out there using AI as we speak to make a really good OSAI isn't actually AI. It's a large language model and it can only copy off work people already did. So you'll end up with some OS someone already created. Most likely a copy of NT
>>544294300Hello Saaaaaar
>>544313575>ElaborateHave you ever tried to use their IDE XCode? It fucking sucks in every way compared with Visual Studio. You also can't even see the file tree within your own OS. I had to constantly google how to do things that are intuitive in Winblows. It was like a nightmare that never ended. I was getting paid the whole time though
>>544292875Systemd-analyze says that my pc boots in ~50 seconds, I have tried caldera openlinux 3.1 in 86box and it booted faster than that. I don't know about microshaft, though.
>>544294300>t. nvidia CEOCitizens have lost their land, water and eletricity because the government wants to build a data center in every city. The only ones who benefit are overpayed greedy tech CEOs.
>>544313665>XCodeNah i code in VI(M)>file treeTerminal -> tree?I give you that it's confusing at the beginning when you're so used to winblows, but as soon as you get it it's great. Takes a while
>>544313802>you have to use the terminal to see the file pathkek
>>544313825If you are white you always prefer the terminal >Terry_Davis_about_when_computers_went_wrong.webm
>>544313825Aside from TerryYou said file tree not file path. If you make the right settings in finder your file path will be displayed with the full pathJust don't be a retard
>>544302903Windows XP, fixed that for ya
>>544313872Oh I get that you CAN use the terminal to see the file path. In winblows it's just literally right there in the explorer and always has been. Everything is ridiculously stupid in mac. Like it was designed for a child or something. And as far as not using XCode like you said... that's their IDE for coding apps bro, and it fucking sucks. You can't hover over objects to see values all the time. You can't right click to rename a file. Everything about apple sucks compared with Visual Studio. It's a slick OS but I absolutely hated it. I had a job working on apple app and it was a nightmare that never ended.
>>544301725>also this vid is bs because pcs never loaded that fast ever.of course they did? my own desktop pc was probably even faster as long as the filesystem check (incorrect shutdown or w/e) didn't triggeras for your windows 11 still being "fast" whatever that means in your perception the problem is that on most computers i've seen in the wild it doesn't nearly stay that way.
>>544313902>bro just google how to see the file pathlmao, my point exactly, and it's nonstop that over and over>let me google how to do something that is naturally done in windows>over, and over, and over
>>544313585>it can only copy off work people already didincorrect. it can do work no one ever did (leaning on previously learned concepts of course, but humans do that too).
>>544313536Best AI can do i bootleg copy of existing onesSame like they did with Adobe stuffThat doesnt work just looks like adobe crapRewriting OS in same way could be legit hardware level dangerous
>>544314053You are right that the file structure is more logical displayed in the Explorer, i also miss the tree view.But one can live with it and with the right settings you may google once you get a great system.I have regular uptimes of 200 days and more
>>544314073>building your OS based on outdated stackoverflow posts>you ask it a question and it sources from some old version of a post that's no longer relevant>you ask it the same question twice and get two completely different answerskek
>>544314073>incorrect. it can do work no one ever did Proof of it?
>>544313585You're an uninspired creator who cant guide AI to produce what you want. AI is a like a super genius 5 year old, if you dont hold its hand and be stupid specific, it will not produce what you want. Directors like Spielberg basically do the same thing, no? Use hundreds of other people who all gained their skills and talents through other people and means (Like how AI gathers everything) and then uses all of their knowledge with his creativity to make movies. We are living in the Directors era, and if you can only produce uninspired slop, thats because you lack creativity. AI has access to all the OS ever made, once can pull all the best things from all those OS and make something new. Look at all the people using AI to emulate PS5, and now even doing more things on top of it. Blah, blah, blah conclusion. If your AI pumps out slop, its because you're a creativity void of a human.
>>544301355>This is showing a pentium mmx 166mhz with 32mb of ram.N-word, I actually owned such a pc. It did not boot windows 95, nor 98(se) that fast. It took forever and then some.
>>544314120If some rando decides to make an OS and bricks his computer then thats on them, but I assure you no one who doesnt even have a lick of knowledge about OS is going to run to their AI and start a massive OS project, the only people who will do that are probably people who can nearly build an OS themselves
>>544313992little things speed up efficiency, the placement of the start menu for example. They moved it at one point because if they could attract the users eyes to the center of the screen it made them more susceptible to ads, so they began ads in the startmenu process, which btw is now a core part of the trojan operating system that every major ad company such as Google pretty much has direct access to with telemetry services. If you can disable parts of this system you free up gb's of ram. In Windows 11 they autoactivate it after an automated program pings Microsoft and sends back a result, and there's no way to stop it because it's part of the core system now. They did an update they switched up the way images are displayed in the folder, it now takes me an extra 5 minutes to do something it took me fractions of a second to do before.
>>544314143you can build it on reasoning about your own design and your understanding of programming languages in general, so can aiperhaps parts of your understanding came from stackoverflow too, sure. no one cares as long as it works.>>544314170old scientific problems that were solved by AIabout 100 billion images that were never done before (you can take an AI that was made before the Iran war and it gives you iran war parodies or it makes clothes that never existed)almost any fucking code you generate. if you want you can probably get a browser game where a duck shits pepe the frog faces and you catch them, this has not existed before
>>544314321>it now takes me an extra 5 minutes to do something it took me fractions of a second to do before.Yeah they need to screenshot everything and send it to MS/NSA/CIA
