>Socialism: Government owns everything and plans entire economy. People stop trying so hard and entrepreneurs stop inventing because they cannot keep the full fruits of their labor. System inevitably collapses due to extreme forced equality. >Capitalism: 2 or 3 men get absurdly rich and own everything. People stop trying so hard because inflation runs out of control and things like home ownership and affording a family becomes completely out of reach. System inevitably collapses due to rigged economy in favor of extreme wealth inequality.You are fucked both ways!
>>544294579Have you considered being more moderate
>>544294579It’s almost like the problem is the people in power and we should be at war against the political and economic bourgeoisie.
The memeflaggot jeet's problem with capitalism is inflation.Think about that.
>>544294651>the problem is the people in powerThe true problem is the shittiness of human nature. Good luck fighting against that.Human beings have been greedy, spite filled, violence loving degenerate niggers since their inception. And that isn't going to change.Blame king nigger God for creating us in his image and putting us on a planet with finite resources to compete and kill each other in eternal conflict.
>>544294579>We should be more like the US with mass shootings in schools, drug overdoses and suicides and less like China because of our freedomsThat's the whole socialism vs capitalism debate in a nutshell
>>544294579The final redpill is that it's human nature to understand and exploit systems to our benefit.Doesn't matter the system, economic, political, social, whatever. If your personal perfect ideology that will bring about utopia was enacted tomorrow, it would still be failing within 100-200 years. It's what Humans are designed to do. Figure out the rules, then figure how to ignore them or use them to your personal advantage. We build ideological systems, then tear them apart from the inside because those at the top have learned to exploit the rules to their advantage and everyone else's detriment. It's just the cycle of humanity, and it will continue playing out as long as humans inhabit this reality.
>>544295495Shitty species.
>>544294924Humans have never had immediate connection to almost any other person on earth before either. There is a coming enlightenment I hope for, and I truly think the progressive DSA wave is just the first phase of a very big shift in our whole conception of the government that’s lasted largely untouched for over 200 years.
>>544295881It's the nature of reality. Species that adapt to systemic changes and use the system(s) to their advantage survive, and those species that fail to adapt disappear or are replaced by a species that can. Evolution is fucking merciless and doesn't care about abstractions like moral objectivity, justice, or fairness. Life is monumentally unfair. The only thing that really matters on a biological level is that you survive long enough to pass your genetics to offspring. That's it. That's what you were built for. You, and every other human alive, were built to survive and pass on your genetics, and nothing else. You weren't built to be fair or equal or just.Doesn't mean we shouldn't strive against the worst aspects of our nature, but denying our animal origin is equally retarded. Complaining about our nature is pointless. It's like complaining about gravity or entropy. It's just something we have to deal with as best we can.
>>544297356Humans have as much a compulsion to assist and cooperate with others as they do to alienate or destroy them. Until we find another intelligent species we should consider ourselves the most advanced things in the universe, and that comes with some certain responsibilities frankly.
>>544297514I agree. I'm not a doomer thinking that humans are unable to mostly control our animal nature. I just also recognize that humans are naturally built to fuck up their own ideological systems the same way we exploit natural systems. The same kind of intelligence is in play when someone invents a new medicine as when someone sells crack on the street. I like that you mention responsibility, because I think that is the answer for most issues with human nature. But when times get tough, people tend to drop their responsibilities in favor of providing for themselves or their immediate family, over strangers. That's when shit hits the fan.
