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Is this actual fascism? The word is overused, but like... you have a billionaire executive who's consolidating power, choosing people based on loyalty above all else. He owns this media platform he calls TRUTH and on it he features his own long-winded posts and news articles from literal propaganda outlets whose business model is like being those fish that clean the mouths of sharks.

You've got identity politics, wars of distraction, unprecedented personal enrichment, use of the government to prosecute personal grievances...

I think it's fascism. I don't think there's another word for it.
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>>544315720
Trump doesn't have the willpower to truly embrace autocracy, hence why he ended up condemning his own supporters for engaging in a protest HE called for on January 6th just because the media / his fellow politicians pressured him into it.
https://www.the-independent.com/tv/news/trump-jan-6-riot-capitol-hill-condemns-resurfaced-video-b2896784.html
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>>544315720
OP is a worthless retard.
I wish trump was everything delusional faggot Democrats said he wad
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>>544315803
This,

Trump is a pussy and lacks the balls of even a weak dictator.
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>>544315803
>hence why he ended up condemning his own supporters for engaging in a protest HE called for on January 6th
Autocracy isn't about the movement, anon. It's about personal power. Movements are how autocrats gain personal power. It's all about the autocrat.

Point being, Trump was going to go to prison for it. The Smith report was going to nail his ass to the wall for his part in trying to overturn the results of the 2020 election. They were serious charges and a strong case, but then SCOTUS stepped in and Trump won the presidency.

Your mistake is assuming that condemning the protesters means literally anything to or about Trump's pursuit of personal power. Once you understand that there is very little connection between the movement and the man beyond the movement's utility, you might see that his condemnation is expected when his personal interests are on the line.

Again, it's trite, but remember the night of the long knives. Contrary to being ideological allies elevated into prominence, the people of the "movement" stop being assets and start being threats once an autocrat's power is secured.
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>>544315720
No, it isn't. Ilhan omar was imported and empowered by jews who hate white people. That's it. That's all she is, just like every other violent military-aged sandnigger and beaner and jeet imported into our country over the past sixty years. This isn't even political; it's a jewish religious imperative.
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>>544315720
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>>544315720
You're a fucking idiot
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>>544316691
You can continue to blame the other, but plenty of your own country men in positions of power, left and right, allowed this to happen because of their own lust for power and money.
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>>544315720
it’s called “anarcho-tyranny”. seriously. google the definition and see for yourself.
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>>544316969
Is that what you call it when you're a fascist but the fascist government doesn't promote your specific identitarian interests or something?
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>>544316910
I'm happy to rope the traitors, Anon...but that won't save the culprit. If the jews want to start a race war in my country, then I intend to see to it that they do not survive it.
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>>544316522
>"Yes, Trump pussed out and condemned his own followers but that doesn't mean he's not one day going to be a heckin based dictator!"
Yes, it does...
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>>544315720
>choosing people based on loyalty above all else
If you were going to manage literally anything, why would you not choose loyalty first?
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>>544315832
ikr I'm still waiting for the public executions of all democrats and leftist judges, the complete expulsion of thirdies, a proper wall with armed patrols that shoot on sight
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It's jews going after Ilhan Omar for being critical of Israel. They did it to Jim Traficant.
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>>544317470
Nah, it's an Esau Gambit. She's one of those subversive plants. And look at the outcomes:
>side with the subversive white hating creature that wants to destroy your country
>rally to israel
Now you understand why almost all of politics is always a two-sided Esau Gambit where both outcomes favor Them.
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>>544315720
God I hope so. Deep State Apparatchiks like Smith belong in jail. So does Trump. Hopefully they will all bring one another down together
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>>544317588
She's just a dumb Somali who gets Israel right, so she has to pay. If she held every other policy, but was a zionist, not only would she be fine, but rightoids would praise her like they do Fetterman.
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>>544316522
Knight of the long knifes was to stop the full natsoc revolution, hitler feared that the generals would overthrow the new governmemt when he let the sa be the wehrmacht. He was not powerfull enough at this time. And without the generals blitzkrieg would have been impossible
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>>544317688
She doesn't get israel "right", none of those libtards do.
Call them antisemitic and they kvetch and cave. Give them any power and all they'll do is impotently whine about it, while still funding its defense.
They get nothing right.
They will never Notice. They will never Name Them.
Because they are Their agents, controlled opposition to subvert the western world. They don't ask where the money comes from, they don't want to know.
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>>544317294
because then you get sycophants and yesmen
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>>544316969
I don't get it. Most anarchists argue for bottom-up direct democracy, I.e. rule with no rulers. "Anarcho-tyranny" makes as much sense as "4 sided triangle".
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>>544317961
That's still disloyal because they're lying to your face.
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>>544318039
>makes as much sense as "4 sided triangle".
That's called a Triamid. It's a 3D shape, a Pyrimid with 3 rather than 4 sides. You could also quantify a Pyramid as such if you prefer.
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Always remember: The OP calling you fascists went full dictatorship for a free donut.
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>>544318098
I still can't believe Australia literally had camps for the unvaxxed and national manhunt roadblocks for fence jumpers.
These people have black mambas and funnel web spiders.
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>>544315720
Trump is an orange retard but none of what you brought up is fascism.
He he can name his social media platform whatever he likes, barely anyone even uses it and nobody cares what's posted on it except his posts which are just screen capped and posted on other sites anyway.
Investigating people for possible fraud or crimes isn't fascism either. At worst you could argue he's taking revenge for the dems going after him previously but that's their fault for fucking it up.
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>>544315720
*A* media platform, about which he is open and honest that it his is and it is not even big.
In a sea of media that have been smearing him for the past decade or so.
Ergo more of a way to bypass fascistically lying media than to doninate others fascistically.

So no, the claims of fascism are not more than superficial.
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>>544317219
I understand that you disagree, but your argument might be more convincing if it weren't just a restatement of belief beneath some greentext you made up
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>>544315720
Just going off facial structure, he doesn’t look trustworthy
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>>544318447
Why does he call it TRUTH, you think, and then go on to often lie and quote propaganda outlets?
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>>544315720
>I think it's fascism. I don't think there's another word for it.
I knew this when Trump came down that escalator
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>>544318538
Because he's an old thin-skinned fat piggy.
But that has nothing to do with fascism.
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>>544315720
amazing how tards think Trump is le fascism but cant into the idea of the WEF & central banking cartels being the real fascism
and no, nationalism has absolutely nothing to do with fascism
as Mussolini told us, it should more properly be called Corporatism since fascism is the marriage of corporate and state power
so like when the WEF lamented the corporate real estate exposure and plants in my local government made a law that if you have any sort of food service business, you must have a corporate real estate lease otherwise its illegal to run your business...that, is an akshual example of fascism, where my state gov made laws to help protect Corporate International's market exposure on CRE.
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>>544315720
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>>544317421
>waiting
Oh I velieve you.
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>>544318765
Bingo.

It's not without good reason that Trump's opponents are so schizophrenic, he (and Elon Musk even moreso) are literally*the* best modern examples of those who value actual free speech and free media by shattering that attempted chokehold of global (anglo) information markets.

Trump and Elon Musk are unironically better genuine antifascists than antifa could ever be.
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>>544318688
So nothing Trump does has anything to do with fascism at all, in your opinion? Here's what I think are concretely fascist tendencies
>combative identity politics complete with racial/religious ethnic outgroups to rally around
>consistent disregard for institutions, rules, and courts
>total control over his party
>frequent applications of military power abroad
>use of the government to prosecute personal priorities and grievances
>massive personal enrichment -- a fusing of capital to state
>dishonesty, opacity, and unaccountability within the government
>increase in violence and lawlessness in government agencies dealing with political darlings
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>>544315720
>I think it's fascism. I don't think there's another word for it.
Corruption. Hyper-fascism is more accurate. It's a superficial, hyper-real manifestation of fascism. It relies heavily on the aesthetic, symbols, and theatrical hostility of historic fascism, yet lacks the deep state-managed industrial machinery, wartime economy, or long-term institutional building.
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>>544315720
It's fascism. Using the legal system to persecute your political opponents is the very definition of fascism. Literally inventing charges that have never been used before is fascism. The government controlling the flow of information on social media is fascism.
Miggers love to larp as advocates of freedom while simultaneously cheering on actual fascism from their own government. But hey, at least trans women are banned from playing sports I guess...
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>>544318765
And Hitler called his version of fascism "national socialism." The USSR -- an autocracy as classful and oppressive as every Russian government prior -- called itself a communist soviet.

This is the calling-card of authoritarian governments -- dishonesty. Over everything else, they will sell you a vision of what you want to see and leverage your enthusiasm to concentrate power. Then they'll do whatever they want to do which benefits them.

Quoting Mussolini on fascism is like quoting Jeffrey Epstein on pedophilia.
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>>544318898
>globohomo memeshit list handed out to every plebbitor and shareblue operative
this is easy to spot, you're a retard that makes sure what he believes is aligned with what his friends believe, changing those beliefs as necessary to maintain the spot in the group
you masked up, you got boosted, but not before saying you'd never take the goddamned trump vaccine right up until the biden crew told you to do it
a true lemming, all you see is the ass of the lemming running in front of you
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>>544318949
globalists have discovered that they really can just dangle any retarded shit in front of your group and it will be believed
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>>544319057
I hate miggers so much its unreal
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>>544319142
To anyone lurking, notice how none of this addresses fascism or even the accuracy of what I used to support my argument.

This anon, instead of addressing any of that, is attempting to attack my standing to even say it. Ask yourself why that is.
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>>544319057
>Using the legal system to persecute your political opponents is the very definition of fascism.
>I dont care that this has nothing to do with the definition of the word, but it sounds good enough to me
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>>544319057
None of that is fascism, Donald Trump is not Adolf Hitler and the Nazis were right about the jews. Say it. It will feel good, I promise.
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>>544319286
>None of that is fascism
this is what they told the jews before turning on the gas
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>>544319224
What is this symbol and what does it represent?

This is a fasces -- the root of fascism. It is a symbol of authority. The legal system is just a tool to be applied by fascists' authority. It is their authority itself with is absolutely most basal. You're attempting to whitewash authoritarianism out of fascism.
>hey guys actually you know what? babyfuckism was just about getting the trains to run on time! nothing to do with babyfuck h-haha...
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>>544319079
>And Hitler called his version of fascism "national socialism."
Hitler literally wrested Germany from the banking corporations, removing corporate control of Germany, but to your retard ass this is somehow the corporations controlling Hitler's government.
this makes no sense and you only think the way you do because Noam Chomsky was instructed by his handlers to come up with a nu definition of le fascisms and propagate it to academia so that all the tards making sure they believed right would never ever understand that the biggest threat of fascism is on the international scale where the internationalists dictate to governments how they will run
>but its authoritarian
which isnt really a requirement for fascism
>Quoting Mussolini on fascism is like quoting Jeffrey Epstein on pedophilia.
its more like James Alefantis and reading his jimmycomet postings, but dont let being accurate get in the way of something that sounds good in your brainwashed head
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>>544315720
Considering they will probably wanna keep doing this even if republicans lose yeah this is the fascism anon wanted

They lost everything for this
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>>544318898
>identity stuff
Literally a reaction to the woke, and as Gaza illustrated the muslims are the ones that keep choosing violence. Nothing fascistic about genuinely defending yourself.

>institutions
Corrupted for decades by Soros, it ain't Trump that delegitimised them.
Rather their self-delegitimisation brought forth Trump.

>party control
Rubio precedes him, Vance is rather obviously different, plenty of variety to go around and rather obviously so; he and many of his current people are former democrats that escaped its descent into madness, albeit not necessarily voluntarily.

>foreign violence
Which American president is this a complaint about again? Lol.

>use of the government to prosecute personal priorities and grievances
Gee, who could have given him that power?
Almost as if they should have anticipated their exact idsntical abuse to ricochet back into their faces.
Trump is welcome to have his fun with the system they malformed to allow such things in the first place, maybe they will yhink twice about breaking it again once it is fixed this time.

>massive personal enrichment -- a fusing of capital to state
Fascism likes to flirt with monarchy, but monarchy isn't fascism.
That said personal enrichment has been rife there far before him, Nancy Pelosi and the Bidens comes to mind, Ilhan Omar too.
And while socialists dread to face it the poor getting richer once in power is a far better sign of corruption than the rich gettong slightly richer.

>dishonesty, opacity, and unaccountability within the government
Again: Which president? Lol
No, Trump was elected for his relative honesty and integrity, which is hilarious considering how he is

>increase in violence and lawlessness in government agencies dealing with political darlings
Sir, we saw BLM, we see the Gaza types, melodramatically whining when being treated the way you were treating everyone you disliked is just shrug-worthy at best and hilariously hypocritical at worst.
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>>544319207
>the accuracy of what I used to support my argument
you made a bunch of statements that had nothing to do with fascism
but since you believe globohomo memes are real, you think you're being accurate when all it amounts to is you being compliant
literally every bullet point you gave speaks nothing about fascism
>well nu definitions are the real definitions of words, not the old words that people used to agree on their meaning before these alterations of language were employed to prevent people from communicating well
just ask yourself, who likes to rename everything
who likes to change the definitions of words
and then if you're able to get through that, ask yourself why you think it is proper to accept words being arbitrarily redefined by those who wish to divide the plebes and keep them fighting amongst themselves
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>>544315720
>consolidating power
By making several new departments with their own leadership and spreading funding across areas instead of select corrupt programs?
That's not consolidating, it's decentralizing.
>choosing people based on loyalty above all else
This was already true it was just party and controller loyalty before, the public on both sides have clearly said they were tired of being told otherwise.
It's an ongoing problem and exposing it means the public can attack the issue more.
>media platform he calls TRUTH and on it he features his own long-winded posts and news articles
So instead of expecting other platforms to follow along he diversified the options and existing outlets can say whatever they want?
This frees regular media to have each platform decide for themselves instead of being designated soapboxes. Every administration should do it and stop forcing networks to be mouthpieces.

I don't like Trump and fuck Israel, but this is all shit that should happen more often.
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>>544318493
You're the one that isn't providing a valid argument here. Trump's actions on January 6th speak for themselves.
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>>544319377
>You're attempting to whitewash authoritarianism out of fascism.
you're attempting to whitewash the marriage of corporate and state power out of fascism
the most fundamental bedrock defining characteristic
many types of governments may be authoritarian, this trait is not unique to fascism
although....that whole marriage of corporate and state power....yeah, that's unique to fascism
btfo'd on the fundamentals
sad, many cases
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>>544319509
>as Gaza illustrated the muslims are the ones that keep choosing violence
its amazing that anyone says this with a straight face, as if itsreal isnt every bit as bad if not worse
nothing wrong with the rest of your post, but to posit itsreal as not continually choosing violence is laughable and diametrically opposed to history
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OP, you're an actual faggot. I hate trump and his yid lies but Ilhan Omar has falsified immigration documents, and has been scamming tax payers millions of dollars to prop up a fucking Somalian community in America. She shouldn't be deported, she should be hanged publicly and made an example of.
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>>544315720
It doesn't matter if its fascism or not. Its Satanic and its Tyranny.

You are either a servant of the tyrant, or you are his adversary, and that way of acting makes Trump THE Adversary to everybody, including those who serve him (who routinely get thrown away).

This is the absolute core of what it means to be "Successfully Satanic".
It doesn't mean the country he's ruling is prospering. It means that just like Putin and Kim, his success is 100% defined by "keeping power by destroying threats to it".
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>>544319680
>Trump's actions on January 6th speak for themselves.
like other brainwashed tards, in reality this means
>things Trump didnt do are still his fault
you have an old, stale playbook
you should go back to your old shareblue pals and ask if they have any better arguments
but they probably wont since nobody is getting that USAID money any longer to fund these ops
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>>544319704
>you're attempting to whitewash the marriage of corporate and state power out of fascism
Not at all. See here:
>>544318898
>massive personal enrichment -- a fusing of capital to state
Fascism very obviously has a lot to do with elites taking over the government. I'm happy to concede that because it's not a concession. Will you in turn concede that fascism is an intrinsically authoritarian ideology?
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>>544319805
Mate if reality upsets you then the first thing you should do is to stop posturing - stop lying to yourself, stop lying to others.

I'm here to discuss in earnest as my previous post shows rather well, considering it reached the post-size limit.

If you cannot do that without demanding another accept your convictions-to-be-defended in advance then you have already lost as you just drift further and further from objective reality.

If you wish to delve into the subject of Gaza i am fine with shifting our attention to that subject, just word carefully and i will try to reciprocate.
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>>544317588
I "see" what you did there with that pic
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>>544319509
America has been borderline fascist for a long time. My point is that Trump is the first president in a very long time to actively capitalize on the latent fascist currents (or their historical equivalents) in this country.

I see that you are providing JUSTIFICATIONS FOR these traits rather than explaining how they don't exist. That's not my argument here. That you can't establish they don't exist, it looks like we basically agree on the idea that Trump is a fascist. That you JUSTIFY them... makes you kind of a fascist, I guess? Not sure. You tell me.
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>>544319981
>massive personal enrichment -- a fusing of capital to state
graft and corruption are also not exclusive to fascism
>a fusing of capital to state
at this point I'm wondering if you even understand the words you're typing
>Fascism very obviously has a lot to do with elites taking over the government
you forgot the most fundamental part, the corporate part
fascism very obviously has a lot to do with corporations taking over and driving the government
again you're focusing entirely on aspects not exclusive to fascism and you're having a hell of a time just accepting that the corporations steering the government is the single most defining factor that sets fascism apart from other intrinsically totalitarian forms of government
>but surely you can agree I got this one part right, right?
you keep focusing everywhere but the main point, so you're still failing at this
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>>544320199
Incorrect (or in our case "disputed" is less confrontational) premises lead to nonsensical conclusions.

You can call everything fascist, in the end you're just helping actual fascists that way as the boy has cried wolf too often.
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>>544315720
>"noo don't shill for yourself, only my side gets to do that"
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>>544315720
Yes, it's fascism.
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>>544320235
Did I not already concede this? Elites, corporations, whatever -- they capture the state. What combination of words can I assemble to get you to understand that kek.

What does the fasces have to do with fascism?
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>>544315720
Fuck I wish he was, but he isnt
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>>544315720
Oh no! A faggot crying fascism? Next you'll tell me water is wet.
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>>544320051
>Mate if reality upsets you then the first thing you should do is to stop posturing - stop lying to yourself, stop lying to others.
wew lad, might want to look in the mirror on that line item
reminder that le jews never clamored for their middle east homeland until the world discovered oil there
like I said your other points were good, but to fantasize about itsreal just being a few jews trying to peacefully maintain their own land...I mean cmon now, only jews and fox news boomers believe that shit at this stage of the game
you make it like we dont have bibi etc on camera saying that they needed to bolster Hamas and keep funding them
its obvious this tactic was just to make sure that Fatah & the PLO would never achieve their goals of statehood
and to ignore the itsreali oct 7 stand-down to ensure itsreali unity in the face of yet another imminent government collapse...
nah, people dont want to have these debates
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>>544315720
>Is this actual fascism?
Duh.
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>>544319509
>>identity stuff
>Literally a reaction to the woke
Justification
>>544319509
>>institutions
>Corrupted for decades by Soros, it ain't Trump that delegitimised them.
Justification
>>544319509
>>party control
>Rubio precedes him, Vance is rather obviously different, plenty of variety to go around
I don't even know what Rubio precedes him in but congress is terrified of getting primaried if they disagree with Trump who has control over the RNC and campaign money. You don't know what you're talking about, but this is not a justification at least.
>>544319509
>>foreign violence
>Which American president is this a complaint about again? Lol
Justification
>>544319509
>>use of the government to prosecute personal priorities and grievances
>Gee, who could have given him that power?
>Almost as if they should have anticipated their exact idsntical abuse to ricochet back into their faces.
Justification
>>544319509
>>massive personal enrichment -- a fusing of capital to state
>Fascism likes to flirt with monarchy, but monarchy isn't fascism.
>That said personal enrichment has been rife there far before him, Nancy Pelosi and the Bidens comes to mind, Ilhan Omar too.
Justification
>>544319509
>>dishonesty, opacity, and unaccountability within the government
>Again: Which president? Lol
Justification
>>544319509
>>increase in violence and lawlessness in government agencies dealing with political darlings
>Sir, we saw BLM, we see the Gaza types,
Justification

On almost every single point you responded to, you justified why it's okay for Trump to do it. On the one you didn't, you didn't know what you were talking about.

I don't know how to make this any clearer for you.
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>>544320520
I obviously did - i do not find myself complaining about a president, i do not find myself complaining about a war, i do not find myself trying to get something to be labelled a genocide.

Again you can try to twist and mangle words, but just literally walk to that mirror and have an honest look at yourself.

I have not read beyond the first few lines of your post, i'll get to that if still relevant after you have taken an honest look at yourself rather than tried to retreat into word games and projections.
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>>544319680
>speak for themselves
>n-no wait don't just play the unedited raw footage!
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>>544320739
>On almost every single point you responded to, you justified why it's okay for Trump to do it.
You motherfucker...
You ACTUAL piece of shit...

I keep saying this, and you retards need to learn it or burn in hell:
>THE WORLD IS NOT JUST YOU AND YOUR ENEMIES
That fucking THEFT and CORRUPTION that you are declaring as "justified" is AGAINST WE THE PEOPLE, YOU PIECE OF SHIT

You animals are going to pay for your fucking crimes. Its as inevitable as physics.
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>>544320445
The Italians wanted to connect their movement to Rome, so they used the symbols of Rome. Were they not Italian, they would have used something else.
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>>544320961
Why was this specific roman symbol chosen over others? Why is this particular symbol so important that it forms the name of the ideology?
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>>544315720
It would be if it wasn't so ineffectual and pathetic.
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>>544318093
A triangle is 3 sides. Anything that has more than 3 sides isn't a triangle. A triangle exists in 2d space. A "3d triangle" cant exist. If there is a " 3d triangle", it's not a triangle, it's a tetrahedron. A pyramid has a square bottom. That isn't a triangle either, nor a tetrahedron
Learn some fucking geometry.
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>>544318420
Correct. A leaf made a good post.
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>>544315720
Yeah, but it was too fast and obvious to actually get anywhere or accomplish anything.
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>>544321042
Fascism is always pathetic up close because its a bunch of criminals constantly scrambling to avoid justice for their lawlessness.

That won't stop it from destroying systems and driving society to ruin...
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>>544321013
Apes together strong. It's not a difficult concept to comprehend.
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>>544320739
>
Explanation; not fascistic.

>
Explanation; not fascistic.

>
Yeah that's what a leader generally does, especially one that had to oust the previous corrupted leadership as he has not had other structures or individuals he could credibly defer to yet.

>
Mockery, also not fascism.

>
Actual justification... unless you read further. And realise that it is necessary to restore the system, as the corrupters are still around and keep incressantly whining that Trump was totally not a justified and effective reaction to their mess.

>
Again, read a bit further: Not corruption nor entichment of a meaningful kind.

>
Mockery, also hardly exclusive to fascism and frankly more related to communism.


You can pretend that that answers any of my answers, but here's the thing: Running from a fight doesn't change the consequences of the outcome.
Pretending you have fought is not gonna get you the experience nor the benefits of training.

So just read the first bit of this: >>544320051

You can dance all you want, it isn't gonna make it rain.

And i'm sorry but that means either you're not taking this seriously or you lack the means to do so, so i'm gonna go do something else.
Best of luck, i'd say "stay in school" but indoctrination tends to be more detrimental than ignorance.
So "Stay experimental", be sure to base your convictions on more than references and symbolism.
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>>544315832
you mean drumpf is a worthless retard? right?
thats what your post says.

have you ever sat in a shitty diaper? whats it like?
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>>544320319
The following was supposed to be responding to (You): >>544320739.
>Incorrect (or in our case "disputed" is less confrontational) premises lead to nonsensical conclusions.
You obviously don't believe that they're incorrect or even disputed premises. You justify them instead. We both agree that America under Trump is a fascist state -- we just disagree as to whether or not that's okay, I guess.
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>>544321013
Simple. The Romans used the symbol as a symbol of unity and the collective power of Romans. That's the reason America used it as well, long before Fascism. The Italians when they created Fascism used the fasces in much the same way, as a symbol of Italy's unity under fascism and as a callback to their Roman ancestors. If instead they were, say, Irish, they would have used a Celtic knot instead or another Celtic symbol.
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>>544315720
Nobody felt this way when the FBI raided Mar a Lago. Nobody is above the law they say
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>>544319057
>Using the legal system to persecute your political opponents is the very definition of fascism.
No it isn't. That's not the definition of fascism. You're stupid.
If a person who happens to be your "opponent" supposedly breaks the law and you use the legal system to investigate them and exornerate or convict them, is that fascism?
You're a fucking moron.
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>>544318880
>be the American the japanese imagine you to be
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>>544321348
>If a person who happens to be your "opponent" supposedly breaks the law and you use the legal system to investigate them and exornerate or convict them, is that fascism?
It's fascism when your political opponent DID NOT break the law but you go after them anyway. Ilhan Omar has broken ZERO laws, came to America as a REFUGEE. Moron.
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>>544315720
>hyper jewish and gynocentric gay fascism

No thanks
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>>544319680
You mean the time on J6 when said no violence and everyone should go home?
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>>544315720
Only right wingers want to nitpick and say he isn't based on a hyper specific definition of fascism that literally only applies to Italy and Nazi Germany.

But yeah Trump is a kind of fascist. It's "Nihilistic Fascism" which is the same kind that most /pol/ users are. It's a cynical extremely self serving kind of fascism that is even more death cultish than regular fascism. The Nazis despite being evil had a plan for the future a "10 thousand year reich" the kind of fascism practiced by Teump and Republicans is annihilationist they don't expect there to be a future so they are focused on exploiting as much as possible without caring for long term effects. This is why the right takes positions like denying climate change, supporting AI acceleration, and such. It doesn't matter if we die because we are all gonna die anyways. The nihilistic fascist doesn't care if their actions lead to human extinction or suffering as long as they get to enjoy their last 30-20 years on earth.

There is a video about the DHS penguin meme that kinda perfectly sums this idea up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7WqVx9x89s
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>>544321454
>broken ZERO laws

How do you know, faggot? Seems the feds think she obtained citizenship fraudulently, which is a big deal
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>lol
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>>544320740
>as Gaza illustrated the muslims are the ones that keep choosing violence
what sort of response did you expect to this jewish meme
they may choose violence, but itsreal chooses it moar and has done so for decades after decades since the day the country was born
>I have not read beyond the first few lines of your post, i'll get to that if still relevant after you have taken an honest look at yourself rather than tried to retreat into word games and projections.
there's that refusal to look in the mirror again
but yeah, like most others here, you dont want to listen to a word that you disagree with, so you might as well not read the rest of the post
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>>544321317
>The Romans used the symbol as a symbol of unity and the collective power of Romans.
This is slightly accurate, if you squint at it hard enough. The individual sticks represent collective Romans, sure. But they are bound tightly together and then an axehead is affixed to them. As a symbol, even in ancient Roman times, it's also important to note who actually CARRIED the fasces -- kings, emperors, magistrates, and generals. So the symbol itself is incomplete without considering what it's used for and by whom: a bunch of individuals bound tightly together into order by leather, and carried by someone with authority who gives them an axehead and puts them to work.
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>>544321295
>Again, read a bit further: Not corruption nor entichment of a meaningful kind.
it is kinda funny reading retards try to say Trump's crypto endeavors are somehow equivalent to the fraud graft and corruption of people like Pelosi, Bidens, Kerry, Graham, Schumer et al
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>>544321544
>Seems the feds think
Absolutely nobody trusts these pedo-protecting feds, and you are a joke to even argue that.

Protip: Fascists are like leftists in that they flounder in argument unless they can censor everyone.
Fucking cucks.
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>>544321305
>We both agree that America under Trump is a fascist state
>its ok if its just me imagining that this is true
>I'll take it as true anyway
shills make this place such a shit hole
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>>544321544
>Seems the feds think she obtained citizenship fraudulently
The same feds that say the Epstein files don't exist?
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>>544321454
>Ilhan Omar has broken ZERO laws, came to America as a REFUGEE.
shills, shills everywhere
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>>544321799
>muh Pelosi, Bidens, Kerry, Graham, Schumer
see
>>544320943
And then kindly die in a fucking fire, you subhuman filth.

We'll put your excuses on your grave.
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>>544321691
Of course, it's as much truth as it is propaganda. Most things in history are, humans tend to do that no matter where they are.
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>>544321295
>Explanation; not fascistic.
There seems to be a pretty fundamental logical error here -- you seem to think that if these traits can be explained, then there can be no fascism. Fascism is the specific collection of traits. No single trait is fascism, but in a specific combination can be. If you have ultranationalism with outgroup scapegoating, capital fusion, disregard for institutions and courts, etc. (as above) then what you're looking at is probably fascism.

The justifications you give for them here is immaterial. You are arguing why it's okay to engage in those behaviors and as you do so fail to recognize that fascism is quite fucking literally a government, people, and/or ideology which thinks all of those things are okay and justifiable in that combination.

I'm not trying to posture here or style on you. I'm trying to get you to understand what I am saying because it's important.
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>>544321454
They're not convicting her. They're investigating her for immigration fraud and have evidence to do so.
You assume because she's a nigger Somali and came here as a refugee she's innocent. Maybe she is, but I doubt it. Considering how much tax payer money goes unaccounted for in Minnesota, the state she represents, and the fact that there is evidence she falsified her immigration records, and the fact a refugee isn't an immigrant, it's actually a refugee (look up what the words mean. It may surprise you!), adds up to enough evidence for investigation. She hasn't been convicted yet. We don't know if she's a criminal. Investigating criminals isn't fascism, even if they happen to be your "opponent".
Granted, I don't think you even know what fascism is.
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>>544321532
I think plebbitors have competitions to see who can come here and write the most retarded shit and the other plebbitors boat on em
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>>544315720
Join now, trans allies only! bullying NOT allowed
EmACbfGt8
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>>544321800
this tranny doesnt even perceive his own usage of logical fallacy
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>>544321874
No. Different feds. Immigration feds. Epstien files do not directly involve immigration fraud.
Boy you really thought you had a neat little "gotcha", didn't you?
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>>544321889
>see this other bullshit that doesnt hold up to even a cursory reading
we will put your deadname on your grave, tranny
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>>544321897
>If you have ultranationalism with outgroup scapegoating, capital fusion, disregard for institutions and courts, etc. (as above) then what you're looking at could be pretty much any type of government humans have ever came up with
ftfy tardo`
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>>544321691
I decided to check back in on the thread to see if you addressed my post, which you ignored of course.
In any case, I'm impressed you even know what a facses is. Your kind rarely study history. However, you need to study more. Lictors carried the fasces anon.
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Getting really tired of this "If it's fascism then why hasn’t he killed everyone?" tripe
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>>544322027
>Not those feds controlled by the Epstein party, the other feds controlled by the Epstein party
Boy you really thought you had a neat little "gotcha", didn't you?
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>>544321895
>Of course, it's as much truth as it is propaganda. Most things in history are, humans tend to do that no matter where they are.
Okay, cool, but my point is that if the fasces is actually more than just >>544321317
>a symbol of unity and the collective power of Romans
then, equating it to a Celtic knot or "any other symbol" is... wrong, I guess? Would you agree?
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>>544320739
What he's pointing out is the behavior you are complaining about is not specific to trump. Hell, it's not even specific to america.
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>>544315720
No shit, we have concentration camps called detention centres and ICE is by any measure worse than the gestapo.
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>>544322315
>ICE is by any measure worse than the gestapo.
ICE aint rounding up jews, so you've got a bit of a point
but the rest where ICE is rounding up people that never should have stepped one foot in this country, this is just correcting purposeful mistakes from compromised predecessors
illegals and jeets should all get the fuck out of the USA
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trump isint a fascist. trump is a zionist neo con. trump is a kike. israel is a kikestate. their ideology is jewery. their empire is called zog
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>>544315720
It's fascist friendly. Trump is a fascist in the same way any leftist dem can be called a commie; speculating as to what they would do if they had more power. Commie gets thrown around real easy because taxing the rich has the vibes of wealth redistribution and it's less brutal than the nazi imagery invoked with fascism. Trump is also a showman and silly guy, so when he says or does fascist sounding things, it's more easily shrugged off.
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>>544315720
Fascism is the synthesis of socialism and capitalism where private corporations control the means of production, but are managed by the state in accordance with state priorities.
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>>544315720
A politician owning a news website is not fascism.
You people dont even know what fascism is, you use it as a synonym for tyranny like fucking retards
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>>544322304
Again, whether or not it's specific or unique it's totally immaterial. It is whether these specific traits are present in this specific combination which largely denotes fascism as understood by people who study it seriously.

All of politics occurs along a discrete range of possible thought, bounded by reality. You don't find unique thoughts very often; you find known thoughts occurring in unique combinations. My point is that the current combination of thoughts, behaviors, and beliefs in America is really fucking worryingly close to literal, unironic fascism.
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>>544322468
funny how Trump never announced he was a zionist like Joe Biden did
we'll see if the jews counterfeiting loicense survives
methinks Trump will take it away at an appropriate time, and not a single mf gonna be able to call him antisemitic for it
anyone who disagrees hasnt been paying attention to the right things, and if he does these things I'm going to laugh my ass off as his face is carved into Mt Rushmore
cuz if he really was guilty of just about anything, he'd have already been nailed for it
especially the pedo part, where his Dec 2017 EO could have very easily been used against him by the "biden" admin to confiscate his entire fortune
if oooooonly there was a shred of...evidence
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>>544322059
>>544322017
> tranny tranny tranny
You have deluded yourself into thinking that everyone in the world who isn't with you is your enemy, and it has made you an adversary to everyone.

These are the ways of Satan. Keyword: Adversary.

You have a soul that is corroded by this mindset. (because the mindset is Satanic)
You need to look after your fucking soul, you stupid piece of shit.

If you had the slightest amount of sense, you'd realize that I'm speaking as a friend trying to keep you from harming yourself further.
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>>544322680
>My point is that the current combination of thoughts, behaviors, and beliefs in America is really fucking worryingly close to literal, unironic fascism.
hilarious that people arent pointing this out wrt the EU, with the WEF steering Brussels
but yeah, orange man bad, the corporate media said, and they wouldnt lie to you lmao
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>>544322251
Both parties are epstien parties. So you'd rather have crime go unaddressed because the "epstien party" is doing it?
So you're stupid then?
You really thought you had a gotcha! That's funny.
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>>544316522
>Trump was going to go to prison for it. The Smith report was going to nail his ass to the wall
No it wasnt because none of this Washington investigation bullshit ever goes anywhere.
There has NEVER been a credible charge of criminal behavior levied against trump.
They have all, for 10 years, been partisan witch hunts.
Admit it, you want a Nixon moment so you have spent a decade trying fabricate one out of thin air..thats all this has ever been and its why NOTHING ever sticks.
The shameful part is the way you keep falling for it and as soon as one allegation fades away you just move on to the next one.
Because for you its not about the facts, its about the dopamine hit.
You are an addict.
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>>544322814
>but what about
Fascism is good so orange man good. Your memes are colliding and not making any sense.
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>>544322779
how ironic, one with a poisoned mind here to tell me that my mind is poisoned
and my soul is poisoned too, lmao
tells me this after telling me to go die in a fire
shizo posturing like this is just pathetic
you're just a tard who reads globohomoisms in the MSM and thinks that shit is real life
you are so buckbroken you cant even tell anymore
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>>544315720
I don't know if I'd call it fascism but it's looking incredibly dangerous for your nation right now.
Trump is getting to the point that will force EU, UK and probably Canada to actually do something about him.
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>>544322257
Not quite, there are many symbols of unity in the world. Italy has the fasces of course, Ireland the Celtic Knot, some African empires had linked hearts, Native Americans have bundles of feathers sacred circles and more. Hell, the swastika has need used as a solar symbol and general goodness everywhere on the planet! The fasces just another symbol from the past that power-hungry morons use without knowing the full meaning of it, plenty of those in the 20th Century and now, especially in America.
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>>544322892
whenever someone announces that they believe the nazis were fascist, its a nice easy tell for the reader that they are reading the words of a literal mouth breathing propagandized retard that wouldnt know fascism if the global corporations made him participate in a medical experiment
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>>544322984
*been used
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>>544322967
>EU, UK and probably Canada to actually do something about him.
For what? On what grounds? Enforcing immigration law? They're gonna get him because he's running the country differently than they want him to?
The EU is a fucking joke, the UK is completely compromised and should enforce their own immigration laws, and Canada is a vessel state of China populated by Indians, they won't do anything.
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>>544322855
>Both parties are epstien parties
Categorically false. Epstein was a major Republican donor and a registered Republican himself. He was best friends with Trump and funded his campaign.
The Democrats are the party that demanded the Epstein files get released but the Republicans voted against them.
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>>544323000
Trips of truth topped off with a joke. Kudos.
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>>544323058
The biggest names involved in epstien are all democrats. Don't know what you're pointing out here other than it's a uniparty and they're both compromised.
Goodness you're fucking dumb.
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>>544322984
Okay, but this particular symbol of unity is one which binds people together, is carried by someone with huge amounts of authority, and has an axe sticking out of it. Do you think it's coincidental that the party named after it was an autocracy whose dictator... bound people together tightly, handed them guns, and sent them to war, for example?
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>>544322942
>you're just a tard who reads globohomoisms in the MSM
I literally don't even know what their narratives are. Get on my level, you bitch.

I don't want to fall into a pattern like /pol/ where I feel obligated to think the opposite, even if its a lie.

I am telling you about your soul because I know metaphysics.
Everything about being "Satanic" is in the word "Adversary", and when you walk through the world as if its a "game to win", and all the other souls are "enemies to defeat", you become a literal devil and reap ALL the rewards from that.

Repent or die and die and die until you learn.
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>>544323045
>For what? On what grounds? Enforcing immigration law?
Maybe for supporting Russia's war against Ukraine, jacking up global oil prices by going to war with Iran, threatening to take Greenland, hitting them with tariffs, and... just kind of meddling in their politics? For not restraining American elites like that Elon guy who's basically solely responsible for multiple far-right movements in Germany and the UK?

There are a lot of avenues you could have taken here, but the one you chose is somehow especially nonsensical.
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>>544323045
He is destroying the USA. That's fine. We don't care but he is aiding an aggressive and belligerent enemy that is threatening our continent.
He'd better fucking stop it. This is not a game.
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>>544315720
>Accountability
2 years into Biden's term they already had everyone related to J6 arrested, charger and convicted. While for Trump nothing is happening, except maybe angry "Truth" post.
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>>544322880
This is tru. Unfortunately Trump has failed so hard it doesn’t matter. Retards will always think he colluded with Russia because he does absolutely nothing to hold his enemies accountable.
Trump is the dumbest fuck ever born.
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>>544322880
He was found guilty of falsifying business records and found liable for sexual assault and defamation.

The Zelenskyy perfect call thing was him holding funds for Ukraine until they announce they're investigating his opponent. It happened and Trump only released the funds after he got caught. Moving the goalpost to "he wasn't criminally charged in court" doesn't change the fact that it happened.

The Georgia call was him telling the governor to just "say you're looking into and we'll handle the rest, you'll be a hero, there will be a lot of angry people if you don't". Not illegal, but he did it.

Everything around Jan 6th can point to Trump as knowing he lost but doing everything he can to change the results. The "hidden box of ballots" bullshit needs to either conclude that Trump and Rudy Giuliani are gullible retards or they intentionally pushed an easily disproved theory revolving an out of context video as fact to change the results of an election.
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>>544323273
>He'd better fucking stop it. This is not a game.
Then stop him. You have the military to, right? You didn't out source all your defense to anyone, right?
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>>544315720
Real fascism has never been tried
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>>544323475
You still don't get it. You don't need a military to hurt America. You just need to stop trusting it. Pull your assets out. Stop pretending that America is trustworthy because, let's face it, it never really has been.

Our position, everything which makes us successful in the postwar era, is contingent. It's not somehow implicit to being American. We aren't the richest nation because we're awesome and everyone just kinda knows it and agrees. It is the result of an historically fortuitous position which allowed us to become much more powerful at a moment where technology was starting to accelerate.

It can go away.
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>>544323475
We don't need military to put trump in his place you dumb fucking nigger.
Your bravado (just like trumps) will be your downfall.
I'm deadly serious, the anger is growing over here. We aren't some fucking tinpot raghead nation.
You should learn to listen. Miggers are getting FAR too big for their boots.
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>>544323273
>he better stop it!
Lmao bong nigger won't do shit
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>>544323643
This.

The world will be sharpening its knives to make sure we can never harm them like this again, and we'll call it a backstab even tho we have it coming.
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>>544315720
If he was a facsist he'd just put left wingers into camps. Probably a lot of right wingers too. To me he's just acting kind of scared and paranoid. Everything around him is too his tastes only, he's definitely petty, but he doesn't really care about the little guy enough to be a fascist.
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>>544323262
>Maybe for supporting Russia's war against Ukraine
Wasn't the whole crux that he supported ukraine and then stopped doing so when they wouldn't listen to him? Him not supporting Ukraine doesn't mean he's on Russia's side. Maybe Ukraine should have stopped in 2022 when they had the chance for a good deal.
>jacking up global oil prices by going to war with Iran
Kamala would've done the same. The war was happening no matter what. Doesn't excuse it, but trying to blame it in trump as if kamala wouldn't have done it is disingenuous.
>threatening to take Greenland
Posturing to BUY land is a threat?
>hitting them with tariffs
Sounds like a trade issue that he's well within his power to do. He's putting his country first. Every country should put their country first.
>and... just kind of meddling in their politics?
Ah yes, the general "meddling". As if other countries don't do that here.
>For not restraining American elites like that Elon guy who's basically solely responsible for multiple far-right movements in Germany and the UK?
So you want him to break the laws of his country to restrain a guy voicing his opinion? You know, Germany and the UK could stop doing deals and act in their own self interest and block Elon themselves if they wanted to. Odd that they haven't.
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>>544323643
Indeed. The ONLY thing stopping euros and UK right now from retaliating is waiting to see what happens at midterms.
This insanity can't go on. If it's not resolved by a midterm defeat and him brought under control then expect action.
We have no gripe with our friends the Americans but maga has proven time and time again they are not our friends.
This could get incredibly ugly.
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>>544323678
>We don't need military to put trump in his place you dumb fucking nigger.
Ok, so then how are you gonna do it? Trade war? I don't think that'll work out well for the UK.
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>>544323685
>Lmao bong nigger won't do shit
Many have made that mistake throughout history. You wouldn't be the first or the last.
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>>544323170
>globohomo? why I dont even know what they're all about!
does one treat this as a severe lie, or ignorant naivete to the point of....hahaha, yeah ok buddy
>I am telling you about your soul because I know metaphysics.
LOL
reminder that yhvh was created with and is sustained by blood sacrifice
no amount of intellectualisms will ever convey a lick of spiritual advancement and there is no such thing as spiritual welfare, one either puts in the work or one receives no benefit
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>>544315720
Only sissies whine about fascism. Go put on a dress, faggot.
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>>544323780
>Wasn't the whole crux that he supported ukraine and then stopped doing so when they wouldn't listen to him?
No.
I was watching that one closely and Trump was bad-faith from the start.

The flowchart with Ukraine had narrowed to a single good option:
>Surge support and crush Russia in their weakened state.
But Trump never met a good plan he didn't think he could improve on by doing the opposite, so he literally tried to SELL UKRAINE because he initially thought he could just order them to give up.

The rationale was to avoid a long, grinding war, and he caused exactly that to continue.
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>>544323875
Ok, so enlighten us, what could you limey faggots do? Genuinely asking. What levers of power do you have that could possibly do anything?
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>>544323861
>I don't think that'll work out well for the UK
You might want to check who makes all the clever bits of your wunderwaffe.
Then check who holds your debt.
We've been doing this A LOT longer than you btw.
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>>544323942
>Dishonestly reading what I said as a confession of ignorance
You OBSESS about the MSM and hang on their every word, you pathetic piece of shit.

It just makes you a different kind of puppet.
Now stop lying for once in your useless life.
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>>544323875
Your history is over, same as here.
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>>544323262
>continues to post globohomo memes
dumb ones at that
>Maybe for supporting Russia's war against Ukraine
its amazing how people forget or dun belief the glownigger coup of 2014 after the legitimately elected leader of Ukraine turned down the EU's energy offer that would have necessitated skyrocketing energy prices for hohols in return for having their natural resources extracted and put on the market
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>>544323977
So boris Johnson didn't tell the Ukraine to keep fighting no matter what and don't take the deal they were looking to take and trump encouraged them to take?
Also wasn't trump, until recently, supporting them with information networks? Wasn't he also telling them to stop striking refineries and then they didn't listen?
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>>544315720
buddy if ilhan omar is your line in the sand for fascism your a fucking retard. Fuck that stupid sand nigger bitch and deport her
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>>544324087
>tell the Ukraine to keep fighting no matter what
That's exactly what everyone SHOULD tell Ukraine because the alternative is surrendering their children into Russian slavery.

Sorry, I don't have time for your Asiatic blather.
Russians lie and believe only lies. Its what makes you so firmly subhuman.

Now go die in a trench for a tyrant.
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>>544323991
Yeah, you do realize that we could make the "bits" ourselves.
>holding the debt
And what if we tell you to get stuffed? You have no real power at all. Banking with imaginary money is imaginary power. The British were feared because they had a damn good navy backing up their deals.
Now there's nothing. You can act like you have power, but without any sort of military force, you actually have none. Plus, your government is in direct opposition of the people it is supposed to serve. You couldn't even make a draft.
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>>544324087
>keep fighting no matter what
So if Mexico invaded USA you'd just give up?
What a fag.
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>>544315720
>Is this actual fascism?
>USA
No.
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>>544315720
Its shabbos theater like all politics
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>>544324193
What makes you think Russia would sell who they consider ethnic Russians into slavery?
You're fear mongering over propaganda. It's hilarious.
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>>544323419
>He was found guilty of falsifying business records
false
> found liable for sexual assault
also false
>and defamation
only for making fun of the dumb bitch who couldnt even get a criminal case made for the nonexistent assault that has no evidence it ever happened
>Moving the goalpost to "he wasn't criminally charged in court" doesn't change the fact that it happened.
it doesnt change the fact that there was no evidence and 100% hearsay to the point where a criminal trial for what absolutely would be a criminal offense never happened, completely for lack of evidence
>Everything around Jan 6th can point to Trump as knowing he lost but doing everything he can to change the results.
you're so ignorant you arent even aware that in the fine print, if an admin knows its been stolen, they are under no compunction to hand over power
fraud happened and we have evidence for it, but globohomo uniparty members made sure to vote for globohomo's wishes and tried to put one of the corruption ministers in office
not that there's much evidence he really made it there, but that's another topic
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>>544324251
>you do realize that we could make the "bits" ourselves.
Perhaps. After years of r&d, building factories, tooling them and training people.
Maybe in a decade. Maybe not.
>And what if we tell you to get stuffed? You have no real power at all. Banking with imaginary money is imaginary power. The British were feared because they had a damn good navy backing up their deals.
Then we dump them on the market and crash the dollar.
You might want to learn how things actually work.
This is a politics board. Not a maga crèche.
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>>544323678
>We aren't some fucking tinpot raghead nation.
you sure about that, ranjeet
your german monarchy being a bunch of rapists kinda have a bit to do with that
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>>544323643
>tarded americans hating america and wishing bad things on america because globohomo said to hate trump
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>>544323875
>bong tries to act tough
Its cute the way you pretend to be masculine.
How are your E shots going, tranny?
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>>544324426
Always with the monarchy. Like I said. Learn how things ACTUALLY work. This is a politics board. Not a maga Montessori.
Fucking retarded oaf.
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>>544324029
>s-stop pointing out that I agree with every bit of globohomo disinformation!
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>>544324276
Mexico is invading the US via illegal immigration, sex trafficking, and drug cartels.
ICE and border patrol has been fighting it and immigration, both legally and illegally, is down across the board.
So, no. Evidently, American didn't give up. Also, NATO didn't put missiles in Mexico and then offer to let Mexico join when there was a treaty that said Mexico would never join NATO.
You would want to make the comparison to the Cuban Missile Crisis, if you were taking this seriously and knew history, but you aren't and you don't.
Also, isn't the UK currently being invaded by Muslims and Indians and all manners of shitskins? Sounds like you should take care of that before commenting on mexico invading America.
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>>544324193
there you go faggot, dont read or address the main parts, just pick the least important part and focus on that
dont talk about Boris or even address it, especially the part where he promised hohol resources to blackrock
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>>544323134
The axe symbolizes the ability to impose the death penalty, it was generally removed in Rome because Roman citizens had the right to appeal a magistrate's ruling or death sentence before a public assembly. The exceptions were military triumphs and dictators, but normally it shouldn't have the axe at all and it's certainly not a symbol of war like most believe. Mussolini either didn't know or didn't care about that, hence the axe featuring all the time, so chalk it up to ignorance of history as with most of these tyrannical types. The movement is named after the fasces, yet they seemingly don't know its full meaning!
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>>544324378
>if an admin knows its been stolen,
How can you know something if you can't prove it after 6 years? He's president now, how massive resources at his disposal and he's got nothing.

>fraud happened and we have evidence for it,
What's the proof? When asked here, suddenly any random anon becomes more informed and effective than the full force of the US president, a billionaire who spent millions trying to find fraud. Ever wonder why that is?
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>>544324592
>there was a treaty that said Mexico would never join NATO.
May we see this treaty?
And the missiles?
This is a politics board, not a maga middle school. You fucking miggers really are some dumb fucking yokels.
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>>544324572
>Learn how things ACTUALLY work
windsors rape, rape, and rape some more
get away scot free
thats pretty much how it works, ranjeet
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>>544324720
We excommunicated the one person implicated by the Epstein files.
You made one of yours president and covered for probably thousands more.
People in glass houses.......
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>>544324668
>The exceptions were military triumphs and dictators, but normally it shouldn't have the axe at all and it's certainly not a symbol of war like most believe. Mussolini either didn't know or didn't care about that
But Mussolini was a dictator, anon
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>>544324684
>How can you know something if you can't prove it after 6 years?
every case being dismissed for lack of standing 100% means that no court examined a single shred of evidence
that does not translate to you saying there is no proof
>What's the proof?
acting like a fag like there isnt plenty of proof is just revealing to the reader that you are indeed an idiot propagandized asshole
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>>544324383
>Perhaps. After years of r&d, building factories, tooling them and training people.
Mobilization can happen pretty fucking fast. A lot faster than a decade with modern tech and AI.
>Maybe in a decade. Maybe not.
A lot sooner than that.
>Then we dump them on the market and crash the dollar.
Then a new dollar can be made.
You won't do that tho, because that'd fuck the global economy that the UK loves being a part of and requires for its survival as a sovereign nation.
>You might want to learn how things actually work.
I do. Military capability and the potential of it is how the world works. Whoever can do violence the fastest, hardest is whoever makes the rules. Violence is the ultimate authority.
>This is a politics board. Not a maga crèche.
Politics is down stream from authority. Authority is derived from violence.

So the question is: do you know how things work? You might want to learn how things actually work.
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>>544324378
Also he was found guilty of falsifying business records.

https://www.nycourts.gov/LegacyPDFs/press/PDFs/People%20v.%20DJT%20Clayton%20Decision.pdf

Trump was found liable for sexual assault:
https://apnews.com/article/trump-rape-carroll-trial-fe68259a4b98bb3947d42af9ec83d7db

The problem is that to say he "raped someone" is technically untrue if you only count rape as something done with a penis. In that case, women can't rape and forcing objects like your figures, like Trump did, into someone isn't a form of rape.
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>>544315720
no, its just faggotry
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>>544324801
reminder if there was but a single shred of evidence of trump being a pedo, picrel could easily have been used by the "biden" admin to confiscate his fortune
if, oh, only if, there was but a single shred of evidence
face it, you lost, tranny
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>>544324878
>a new dollar can be made.
the US dollar is a unit, it will exist so long as the USA exists
what will cease to exist, are Federal Reserve Notes
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>>544324696
>May we see this treaty?
>And the missiles?
Wow. You completely missed the point. Okay. I'll try again for your Indian brain.
Replace "MEXICO" with "THE UKRAINE".
I'm sorry I confused you. It's why I brought up the Cuban Missile Crisis.
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>>544324933
Dems and their donors are in there, too. The donor class wanted the whole sordid affair to just disappear
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>>544315720
its crony capitalism which is what nazi germany was running at aswell
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>>544324924
improperly filing some paperwork is not falsifying business records
misdemeanors are not felonies
if trump was guilty of that assault then there would have been a criminal trial
cope seethe dilate
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>>544325025
>they wouldnt have just picked out the trump evidence and presented it
cope
seethe
dilate
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>>544324984
Correct! Excellent point. I used the term interchangeably, but I was talking about federal reserve notes.
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>>544324878
You're an idiot. That is all.
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>>544324933
Fine, release the files so all the others can be prosecuted.
What's stopping you America?
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>>544324997
There was no treaty saying Ukraine wouldn't join NATO.
There were no missiles in Ukraine.
You really are as thick as two short planks.
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>>544315720
>Is this actual fascism?
No, is just the usual turn into Caesarism as democracy fails to satisfy and solve any problem
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>>544325429
so, fascism basically
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>>544315720
the fascists were the good guys, pull your head out of your ass already and smell the bagels
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>>544325177
you people really dont understand that the files have the potential to end the federal reserve, do you
this punch will be well timed
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>>544324823
And a very poor one, a man LARPing as Caesar. As for the Founding Fathers, they too use it incorrectly in the House of Representatives and elsewhere. My guess is that it looks "better" than the fasces without the axe, so it's used and damn the actual history behind it.
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>>544325220
you might as well be trying to tell us the biolabs didnt exist either, or that the DoD did not retain operational control
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>>544325068
I'm not saying these are felonies, you're saying he wasn't found guilty of falsifying business records. He was.

And he was found liable a sex crime and defamation.
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>>544325141
No rebuttle?
Lol
I accept your concession.
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>>544319805
You obviously know nothing about Islam you fool. It's a violent death cult whos religion preaches it's ok to kill anyone not a Muslim.
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>>544319057
>everything i dont like is fascism
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>>544325220
>There was no treaty saying Ukraine wouldn't join NATO.
Yes there was and is
>There were no missiles in Ukraine.
Yes there were and are.
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>>544325469
When did ceaser merge the corporations with the state?
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>>544324860
You're not posting the proof. I'm not saying there isn't any, I'm saying you and the president can't prove it and you started this off by saying "if the president knows an election is fraudulent". How can you know something if you're having this much trouble presenting proof all these years later? And Trump isn't some poor billionaire victim of the deep state, he's been the president for another round. Two years into this again.
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>>544325585
Yes. I'm telling you that too you propaganda filled fat gasbag.
Fuck me, you are even more of an idiot than I believed possible.
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>>544325662
There's nothing to rebutt. Come back if you ever grow up and we can talk.
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>>544325755
>Yes there was and is
May we see it?
(There isn't and wasn't)
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>>544321232
>fascism
>lawlessness
pick one, tranny
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>>544315720
It's a staunchly conservative administration... aka, literal fascism
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>>544325828
Calling me an idiot and then trying to walk away is what you consider being an adult?
Lol.
Lmfao, even.
I accept your concession by default.
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>>544325782
call it what you want, but an average person on the street will see it as fascism compared to what america used to be.
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>>544316522
>The Smith report was going to nail his ass to the wall for his part in trying to overturn the results of an already rigged election.
It's just more and more pointless jewish circus.
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>>544326001
Accept what you like. I've no interest in debating a buffoon.
You've been warned. Keep this shit up as a movement and you're going to find a boot up your arses fairly shortly.
Understood?
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>>544325856
>no missiles
Lol. Lmfao, even.
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>>544325901
Are you able to communicate politely? No one takes you seriously.
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>>544326152
Yes, Ukraine had missiles. As does every country. There were no NATO missiles which I assumed was the point you were trying to imply.
Otherwise, you are even FAR stupider than I could have ever imagined to believe a few tochka and homegrown anti ship missiles somehow excuse Russia invading.
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>>544316522
>fascism
>autocrats
You have a very naive view of the state of your democracy. Trump is a clown that is put in front of you as a distraction. He is an octogenarian who rambles incoherently to keep the boomers and terminally online leftists busy. Think of Joe Biden. What more could those people have done for you, to make clear that this is not your actual government? The decision are made by other people, Anon. They don't need Trump as a dictator for that.
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>>544326020
>the average person doesn't know what fascism is
Yes, okay. And? Isn't that the point of this thread? It's pinko commie noise. That's one of the issues here.
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>>544315720
>is this actual fascism
i wish.
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I can't take any more of this brain rot. I have better conversations with 5 year olds.
Miggers need killing. All of them. What a movement of imbeciles.
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>>544326110
So now you're threatening me with violence that you could never enact? Wow. Real mature. So much for "being adult" about this.
I made points, you couldn't refute them, so you insulted me and threatened violence.
Lol. You're fucking stupid as fuck. You're a real moron. If you're not a shitskin, you might as well be because you have the IQ of one.
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>>544320445
Fascism is not a fusion of capital and state. That is a mistranslation from Italian that doesn't get any more true with ingnoramuses repeating it.
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>>544316969
Huh? All serious anarchists have this vision where the demos all come together and talk out there differences...
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>>544325649
yes I'm aware of that kangaroo court result
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>>544326306
Nice goalpost move. Careful, you'll hurt back moving it. Lift with your legs.
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>>544325687
You obviously know nothing about Judaism you fool. It's a violent death cult whos religion preaches it's not only ok to kill goy, but to actively seek their complete annihilation from the gene pool
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>>544322716
>funny how Trump never announced he was a zionist like Joe Biden did
Selective memory?
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>>544326382
Wait! Saaar! Hold on saaar! I am not of being of the imbeciles! You have threatened violence against me saaaaaar! I am of the begging of you to not redeem the violence saaaaaaar!

Lol. What a fucking faggot.
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The rule is simple. If you get labeled a domestic terrorist for saying it's fascism than it is definitely fascism.
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>>544325785
why are you acting like we are having any trouble at all presenting proof?
in the public sphere this has already been accomplished
the proof is right there for all of you dumb faggots to see - if you WANTED to see it
the only place where proof was actively denied a venue was in the federal courts where glownigger judges said you cant bring that in here
that's not "you dont have evidence"
that's corrupt judges lifting the curtain at the back wall of the theater and giving the plebes a glimpse
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>>544326640
miggers are masters of coping
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>>544326640
Trump never said he was a zionist, he said he was pro israel. Not to be pedantic, but there is a difference due to ambiguous meanings.
That said, not a fan of Israel or zionism.
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>>544325797
the thread already knows you're a propagandized retard, but now you provide further confirmation by denying the biolabs that OBama & Hunter set the stage for & funded the biolabs there
already established facts, retard
denying them is like you writing SHILL in the name field when you post here
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A MASSIVE thread all because some TDS fuckwit tries a new equally faggyvtactic "hey guise, Im juatvaakibg, is this fascism?"
So what if it fucking is, you stupid golem?
So what if itvis, every single one of your earnest replies, what wall to wall faggotru one finds on /pol/.
NOOOOOO CANT HAVE MUH FASHIZM
Kill yourselves every one of you earnest little faggots
Using the enemy's language ans the enemies presuppositions
/pol/ ahould require an IQ trst
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>>544326640
>here's these other words that dont prove I'm right
yes, we noticed
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>>544315720
Fascism would entail attempts to actually help the people and society to maintain popularity.
If Trump is a fascist he's a really bad one.
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>>544315720
>a billionaire executive who's consolidating power, choosing people based on loyalty above all else
This is just what smart people do in general, not only fascists. The lovely liberal and marxist news outlets you see run loyalty tests all the time, wether informal or formal to screen whether you're a self-hating American (a good goy) or a "right-wing extremist" (right-of center conservative)

Every news outlet is "literal propaganda" because every single one has at least a slight political bias to it and often ommit certain important details in reporting even if trying to be thorough and neutral. Liberal and marxist slop propaganda is not any more subtle today than even the crudest caricature of Goebbels' news papers was back in the day
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>>544326837
Cus everything good you have in your life is the result of western liberal democracy. You conservative faggots talk shit about African countries yet apparently want to live life like its under the rule of a 3rd world warlord. Kys.
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>>544326807
>Trump never said he was a zionist, he said he was pro israel
what the fuck do you think zionism is?
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>>544327098
LIBERALISM IS THE ONLY WAY FORWARD
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>>544327098
we were never a democracy for a single moment and the founders writings clearly indicate their hatred for muh democracy
which is but globohomo code for the undermining of all republics on the planet, at this point
that we have a legislative democracy in Congress does not make the USA a democracy and it does not negate the fact that we are a Republic
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>>544316522
>remember the night of the long knives
It was actually ideological rather than pragmatic, stop making a false equivalence. Adolf Hitler actually believed in National Socialism every step of the way. You can't really compare that to amoral and pragmatic politicians like Trump that don't have any inner ideology beyond securing political power. Hitler wrote in the 20's about putting the "corrupters of the nation" up against the walls (jews) and securing living space/grain in the east. He followed up on these promises, and far-exceeded what anyone thought was likely for a former homeless veteran
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>>544326914
get in the oven, migger
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>>544327343
you are just a chud faggot trying to muddy the waters
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>>544326745
I'm saying you aren't posting proof. You aren't, you have a narrative that you think serves as proof because you're a fucking retard. In the public sphere the naked emperor can be wearing wonderful new clothes, you can slide the goalposts to just saying it's invisible or it's hidden, just lining his taint. I know you can do this all day.
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>>544315720
I'd argue that Twitter under Jack having an embedded government liaison for countering "mis/disinformation" and would be closer to the actual definition of "fascism". However the definition and common usage of "fascism" in Western countries has shifted in meaning from the actual form of government to "authoritarianism that I arbitrarily disapprove of".
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>>544327432
>cant prove his point
>moves on to adhom
typical
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>>544327343
Republics are gay and only serve to devolve to oligarchy.
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>>544319057
Yoou're beyond retarded. The fascists didn't use the legal system. they just picked vans full of paramilitary forces, went to their enemies houses in the night and shot them in the neck without a trial
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>>544327295
This is why I said there's a difference. It's purposely ambiguous.
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>>544327517
>I'm saying you aren't posting proof.
this is an old canard, there are 2 camps at this point:
-people who have seen the evidence and know 2020 was blatantly stolen with ballot mules stuffing illegal public ballot boxes that were never approved by the state legislatures where they appeared,
and
-retards who hide their eyes and trust the writings of globohomo who is trying to kill plebes and take over the world
at any rate,
hereistheevidence.com
contains all you need
you already know this
but you're a shill so you act like you dont
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>>544315720
>billionaire
It's Liberalism (opposite of fascism)
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>>544327572
plebbitors say the most retarded shit
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>>544315720
Fascism is when white people.

At least according to the left.
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>>544327517
There's literally a whole website of proof.
>hereistheevidence dot com
It's pretty easy to find if you look.
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>>544327572
That's a democracy.
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>>544327691
>>544327912
Thank you.

>When asked here, suddenly any random anon becomes more informed and effective than the full force of the US president, a billionaire who spent millions trying to find fraud. Ever wonder why that is?
This is an old website and only you retards push it. I now need to believe you two are more intelligent and capable than the president of the United States and everyone he paid millions to push this issue. You don't have the reputations to defend, you're anonymous, so you can keep posting that "proof" without consequence. Everyone else can't because it's bullshit.

Remember the "hidden box of ballots"? If there was proof Rudy wouldn't have to die in that hill but that was really being pushed by the president to try to overturn the election.
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>>544328142
you've already alerted the thread that you're a tranny
now go join the 41%
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>>544327343
>we are a Republic
And what type of government is a Republic a form of?

You're also a great example of something. When ever you argue with MAGA retards, you have to literally to start from square one because you faggots don't even have a basic understanding of facts. So much time is spent on just trying to establish reality that you will just deny regardless.
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>>544327638

Gleichschaltung comes before the pickup trucks. Or a military coup. Or both.
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>>544328286
>When ever you argue with MAGA retards, you have to literally to start from square one because you faggots don't even have a basic understanding of facts
BUT TRANNIES OK, AND WOKE OR SOMETHING
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>>544316910
>You can continue to point out objective reality but I will continue to be a faggot ZOG apologist
Yeah we know
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>>544317688
No one praises that lumbering oaf tard
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>>544318098
/Thread
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>>544328259
And you're not a massive retard, you're somehow more capable and informed than the president of the United States and the people he spends millions on.
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>>544328286
>you literally have to start from square one because they dont just accept all these historical rewrites, nu definitions of words that must be adhered to, etc
your mind is poisoned and you are unable to detect it
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>>544317470
yeah. it has nothing to do with her being a fucking fraudster and a scammer, you dumb faggot.



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