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Let's be real, if Nazis came into power today you would rip yourselves apart and it's all a jewish plot, y'all know it, but find the other side incompatible with a jewfree realm. Can it ever be solved?
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>>544367891
No, lmao. christians love jews so much they look the other way when they rape their kids
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>>544367985
If it were true, this thread wouldn't be necessary
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>>544367891
Once people stop demanding myth be literal and realize the signal was always in them maybe. Christians are too hung up on the promises of validation, judgement, and worshipping a dead man rather than allowing reality to crush them. They are weak. Pagans are retarded. Nothing you can do. None will listen. People are trained to dismiss the impossible in favor of stone carved data. That is to say most of them are dead inside. We live in a world of zombies that believe themselves warm.
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>>544367891

Christianity is too cucked
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>faithniggers still need allowance from some random faggot to wipe the desertnigger out of europe
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>>544368052
it wasn't necessary
kikes are panicking hard that the younger generations dont give a flying fuck about israel or the holohoax
so what do they do?
the same tricks they've been doing for thousands of years, pushing christianity
why do you think there's some huge push from jews like Shapiro or other talking heads about christianity?
they know that if they can make it appeal to zoomers with the whole christian nationalism approach they've got another generation primed up to send more and more billions to 'gods chosen'
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>>544368131
>Nothing you can do
Nah, there's always a way, the question is how can you mold the ideology so most people can unite.
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>>544367891
King David said I come against you in the name of the Lord Almighty, the God of the armies of Israel the lord will deliver you into my hands
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>>544368052
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>>544367891
Nazis unirionically persecuted pagans. Yes, a few of them were into occultism but the high brass litle Hitler, Goebbels, Bormann REALLY looked down on that shit.
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>>544368165
And pagans will never be mainstream and atheists are irrelevant when you are building something.
Honestly, hating Jews is a Christian thing, we invented it, not pagans. Fighting Christianity instead of fighting Jew lovers inside Christianity will only increase the Jew lovers and you will never defeat Christianity, it only grows stronger when oppressed, so they win.
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>>544368312
There really isn't tho. You can show them the door but they have to walk through it. That mean burning. That means accepting the Satan as part of yourself and loving it too. What modern Christian is capable of that? They fear god because they don't understand how the signal feels in the body. There's only so much one can do to unwind millenia of obfuscation and lies. What Christian would accept their idea of Christ is wrong? How many would understand myth as something of a computation and compression of memory rather than a literal description of history? How many can even accept the bible as myth when it's so wound against actual history? To do any of this one must first remove the chosen relationship. Good luck with that.
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Pagans will never bite the hand that feeds them
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>>544368536
Literally all of documentation and photographic evidence proves you wrong. Even so, you utterly fail to understand the Wotanic spirit that imbued Hitler and the spiritual essence of National Socialism.
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>>544367891
The people LARPing as pagans here are jews
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>>544368859

bullshit. some of us want to do legitimate kek worship which is what they don't want
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>>544367891
How can you hate jews when youloterally worship a circumsized jewish man? The jews dont even believe god a was a jew. Only christians believe that.
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>>544368599
Pagans slaughtered jews. Christians allowed them control of monetary finance and usury in the HRE. Christianity is universalist, paganism is so connected with ancestral blood memory and White nationalism that entire organizations have dedicated their time trying to deracinate Whites from it and flood it with nons.

We are not the same.
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>>544367891
1 Cor 10
You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons. You cannot partake of the table of the Lord and the table of demons.
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Christians also get hung up.on stupid shit like young earth creationism. They will tell you all animals were vegetarian and deny evolution. They are trying to prove noahs arch. You never really see jews and moslem obsessing over such nonsense even though they have the same foundation. They dont have a problem accepting science. The christcucks are truly unique in their stupidity.
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>>544369005
>jew book babble
are you incapable of actual thought or do you just parrot what jews wrote down 2000 years ago?
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>>544367891
Both worship multiple deities, so yeah
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>>544368948
>Christian countries expelling Jews - 109 cases
>Pagan countries expelling Jews - almost 0 cases
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>>544369058
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Flat earthers are typically christians as well. Again not many jews or moslems trying to push this shit
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>>544368626
You are walking a dangerous path brother, make sure to go back sometimes.
But honestly, I don't think all that is necessary, if your ideology only works for "smart people" then it's irrelevant, there will always be someone better than you that sees all your knowing as bullshit, that is no reason to be paralised. But there's always the possibility to build layers, saying it's impossible is just lazy, threads like this can give you a lot of information to do that.
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>>544369108
man this poor chrigger must be brown like the brownest human feces imaginable to not see the irony in this, genuinely african downie retarded human cattle
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>>544369124
so that's a no?
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>>544369108
>Christian countries expelling Jews - 109 cases
>let's them back in every time
>let's them be the only group to charge interest on loans
>let's them control the banks
>outlaws any persecution of them
yea you really showed those kikes you claim to hate
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>>544367891
I believe Luciferianism/Satanism or whatever you want to call it might be able to accomplish that, transforming the leftovers of christian mysticism and marrying them with the fragmented heathenism of bygone eras into a coherent outlook for Western Man after Faustian Civilization, possibly by elevating Adolf Hitler to a messianic figure of spiritual significance
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>>544367891
No. I will forever put God Almighty above Everything.
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>>544369173
Even stupid people are capable of honesty. They simply choose not to be. Stupid people can cry. They don't allow themselves to. Most people don't want to actually know themselves. There is no all knowing. There's is only knowing all through oneself. Can you personally be completely honest about what is in your heart and mind and speak it aloud even to yourself? This entire world is designed now to pull you away from that. There is no tiers. There is only destruction left. It must burn. They must burn. The sad truth is the only way humans learn and update their programming is through trauma. All myth records this. Christ is the symbol of it. You want half measure where there can be none. There is too much noise and fragmentation. You need to prepare yourself. Things will be changing rapidly soon.
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You are the one who have to bend for my way, not the other way around.
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>>544367891
No. Pagans are kike golems.
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>>544368859
Probably some, probably a few jews larping as christians as well, most pagans are atheists as well.
Anyway, the real people are relevant.
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>>544369433
>literally forced to live entire countries
>outlawed persecution
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>>544369440
>what is esoteric Hitlerism
>what is Hermeticism
>what is polytheism

You’re very limited in your knowledge of things. Expand it.
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>>544369568
who destroyed their homeland you worthless subhuman christian animal? who rebuilt it for them?
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>>544369500
>John 4:22
>You worship what you do not know; we know what we worship, for salvation is of the Jews.

Right.
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Pagans don't exist anymore they are edgy atheists (jewish puppets) with another name
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There are no pagan temples. At least the Church of Satan another athiest organization has a place of worship. Where is my temple of the sun today? I want to be a sun whorshipper and do to Sunday service.
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>>544368904
By your logic, a Christian county would never expel and persecute the jews, but they did, so there is probably something you are overlooking, don't you think?
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>>544367891
it worked for germany
its atheists that were banned from the SS because they did the same shit they do here, endlessly spam trying to create infighting like the spiteful mutant marxists they are
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>>544369686
>There are no pagan temples.
gay clubs do exist
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>>544369704
>it worked for germany
lmao, the only thing they got for not showing christian animals in work camps was constant betrayal
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>>544369675
White European Pagans, which you are not, are polytheists. Anyone who claims differently is not a pagan.

>>544369686
>what is the Asatru Folk Assembly

There are multiple pagan temples active across Europe too, including Hellenic ones in Greece and Norse ones in Iceland.
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>>544367891
Don't be silly.
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>>544369774
they gave money to the christian who were persecuted in jerusalem by jews, retard.
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>>544369675
>jewish puppets
>tp
>tf
my fucking sides what being colored like human feces does to a mf
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>>544369005
Do they worship demons though? Idk man, things might be more nuanced than they were before.
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>>544369833
Seethe faggot.
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>>544369108
>Christian nations genociding jews: 0 (holocaust wasn't real)
>Pagan nations genociding jews: 1 (Rome)

Also, stop capitalizing "jew", you christcuck.

Do you think 1000+ expulsions is some kind of flex? That's 1000+ cheeks turned, 1000+ times you failed to solve the problem for good, and 1000+ times you pushed them out to be some other non-jew's problem.

Christcucks enable, protect, and preserve jews, despite "hating" them for killing their jewish god, because "muh salvation", "muh chosenites", they must witness "muh end times".
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>>544369495
Always thinking about bending, huh. How about you suck my ladycock?
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>>544369440
This man is dangerous
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>>544369854
the spirits behind the worship are 100% evil spirits.

Daniel 10
20Then he said, “Do you know why I have come to you? But now I will return to fight against the prince of Persia; and when I go out, behold, the prince of Greece will come. 21But I will tell you what is inscribed in the book of truth: there is none who contends by my side against these except Michael, your prince.
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>>544369883
your memes suck
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OOGA BOOGA DEMONS
>UNGA BUNGA SATAN
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>>544369446
>I will forever put God Almighty above Everything.
In what way is that a no?
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>>544369966
Repeat after me, or fucking kill yourself.

"You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews."

John 4:22
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>>544369757
>>what is the Asatru Folk Assembly

Cringe faggot Harper athiest. Im never taking you faggots seriously. Here is a picture of them
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>>544369479
>Can you personally be completely honest about what is in your heart and mind and speak it aloud even to yourself?
Honestly, no, can you?
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>>544369999
Because these pagan cunts seek to put their race above God, when I am willing to sacrifice them all just to appease my God.
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>>544370023
>doesnt even know who samaritans are
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>>544370023
>using english translation
lol that meme about parts of the brain being shut down making one an atheist liberal is true LMAO
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>>544370107
Concession accepted.

Heil Hitler
The Holocaust never happened.
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>>544370115
You literally can't even read the original texts you coping cuck.
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>>544370004
>break neck
I was hoping for ‘turn other cheek’, what a disappointment,
you fucking dumb cocksucker
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>>544370061
>Here is a picture of them

The AFA is a White nationalist pagan organization founded by a White nationalist who has stated only people of European descent can practice it. They have multiple temples throughout the US that are exclusively White. Your photo is not them, which means you’re either a terrible liar or simply retarded, likely both.

Here is an actual photo. All members are polytheists.
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>>544369935
As an olive-branch:
We're definitely gonna keep Christmas and Easter around, 100%
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>>544370145
>Heil Hitler
hitler would throw you in the camps for shittalking religion get a new larp bolshevist faggot
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>>544367891
Christians are a part of the jew
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>>544368599
>hating Jews is a Christian thing, we invented it
Nope lol. Jesus was a jew
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>>544370107
your copes are predictable, like all e-christians are, little kids convinced by paradox videogames that they stumbled upon le epic antijew religion for da win
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>>544369108
>Christian countries expelling Jews - 109 cases
That's not really true either
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>>544370206
He threw faggot christ niggers that got in the way into camps and disallowed that kike imagery alongside the swastika.

Kill yourself faggot.
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>>544370236
>still missing the point Jesus made
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>>544370193
Rabbi Jeff is the best Rabbi I have ever know.
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>>544370192
>literally
awww the tranny is getting emotional
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Fun fact:
>Consensual incest between adults is not recognized as a distinct crime in Thailand's penal laws
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>>544370285
>the point Jesus made
Thomas Aquinas, Catena Aurea, chapter 4, lecture 4, commentary by Saint John Christostomos on John 4:22
>The words, For salvation is of the Jews, mean that every thing calculated to save and amend the world, the knowledge of God, the abhorrence of idols, and all other doctrines of that nature, and even the very origin of our religion, comes originally from the Jews. In salvation too He includes His own presence, which He says is of the Jews, as we are told by the Apostle, Of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came. See how He exalts the Old Testament, which He shows to be the root of every thing good; thus proving in every way that He Himself is not opposed to the Law.
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>>544370416
Grok says this is True.
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there are four possibilities
only one is human

And "pagans" don't exist. A pagan is either an atheist or a christian who's lying to himself.
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>>544370343
>properly uses the term

u w0t m8?
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>>544370115
>God is a figment of the imagination
Lol, yes
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>>544367891
If you keep the uplifting and forgiving spirit of jesus and dump the subversive abrahamisms
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>>544370490
Sound like you just admit that God exists.
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>>544369890
To be fair there were a bunch of times Christian peasants or soldiers rose up and drove out all the Jews but it was usually the church and royalty that tried to put a stop to it.
There were also a big and proper expulsion out of France and Spain that the royalty approved of. It took generations for them to forget why they did it.
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>>544370419
>Aquinas
samaritans were the israelites of the northern kingdom who did not participate in temple sin sacrifices in the southern kingdom of judah.
they had their own form of worship.
Jesus is pointing out to the samaritan woman that he is the ultimate sin sacrifice from judah and the fulfillment that reconciliates the samaritans back into the fold.

42 They said to the woman, “It is no longer because of what you said that we believe, for we have heard for ourselves, and we know that this is indeed the Savior of the world.”
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>>544370591
peasant pogroms had nothing to do with the christianity of the peasantry
if jews had for some reason existed in northern europe before christianity was developed, the peasants would have acted the same way.
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>>544370490
>having no electromagnetic in partsh of my brain make me smarterer
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>>544370591
and hardly surprising, as they were the most illiterate on the doctrines on how jews have to be handled which go back al the way to the church fathers in antiquity and are more or less universally accepted across denominations: jews are to be permitted to exist, albeit in subjugation, and to practice judaism even, until the messiah returns, they convert and the messianic age comes
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>>544370284
>That pepe
One has to wonder how many of the worlds troubles stem from people getting molested and abused as children.
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>>544370678
>my personal feelings about God are true
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>>544370658
it's Aquinas quoting/reporting the words of John Chrysostomos your dumb shit colored christian animal, my fucking sides this ape cant even decypher elementary english paragraphs and thinks he knows better than church fathers

again, paradox videogames have brought upon a disastrous cancer upon the internet
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The Gook admits he's a lady boy
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>>544370750
>muh hecking philosopher theology
roman catholocism was a mistake. stop jerking off frauds.
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>>544370817
>Chrysostomos
>Catholic
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>>544370760
Good to know. You are still nothing but bunch of lying cunts. You will die that way as well.
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>>544367891
Pagans and Christians united here against the Arab raiders around 700AD and kicked their butt, but those pagans, even if misguided in some spiritual affairs, would have dropped everything and dealt with the Nazis first, it would remind them of a Euripides and Sophocles tragedy where they suffered in their obsession with futile things such as material prosperity, power, and political stability.
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>>544369686
>I need a house for my god
Kek
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>>544370856
>Chrysostom
To have the courage to shit talk the emperors jewish wife while being but a frail old man in robes.
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>>544370856
>muh hecking second hand sources
read the bible retard.
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>>544370447
You are a raped kikeslave
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>>544371043
look the little doggy is speaking: be quiet and be thankful you have been allowed to get some crumbles off the jewish table, you doggy
>But do not be surprised that I called the Jews pitiable. They really are pitiable and miserable. When so many blessings from heaven came into their hands, they thrust them aside and were at great pains to reject them. The morning Sun of Justice arose for them, but they thrust aside its rays and still sit in darkness. We, who were nurtured by darkness, drew the light to ourselves and were freed from the gloom of their error. They were the branches of that holy root, but those branches were broken. We had no share in the root, but we did reap the fruit of godliness. From their childhood they read the prophets, but they crucified him whom the prophets had foretold. We did not hear the divine prophecies but we did worship him of whom they prophesied. And so they are pitiful because they rejected the blessings which were sent to them, while others seized hold of these blessing and drew them to themselves. Although those Jews had been called to the adoption of sons, they fell to kinship with dogs; we who were dogs received the strength, through God's grace, to put aside the irrational nature which was ours and to rise to the honor of sons. How do I prove this? Christ said: "It is no fair to take the children's bread and to cast it to the dogs". Christ was speaking to the Canaanite woman when He called the Jews children and the Gentiles dogs
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>>544367891
>pagan
>christians
what's the difference?
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>>544368052
It isn't necessary.
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>>544367891
No, because christkikes worship and adore jews, and have repeatedly been their most loyal servants.
>christcucks gave jews a legally and religiously guaranteed monopoly on money lending in Europe
>2000 years of brother wars to give jews control of europe, many hundreds of millions of White europeans killed.
>forced conversions of millions of europeans on threat of death if they refused. Millions of Whites were hunted down and killed for refusing to convert
>waged two world wars to give jews control of the rest of the world, killing another 80+ million White people.
>helped jews wage the cold war, killing another 40 to 60 million in bolshevik jewish gulags/death camps
>defended jews when they commited the holodomor
>the church smuggled as many jews out of harms way as it could during every progrom in European history
>the church convinced spain to put expelled jews on boats to the new world instead of killing them
>the church defended the jewish slave trade by sending White christians to kill berber pirates that attacked the jewish slave ships.
>christcucks in America allowed jews to create the federal reserve and completely hijack American finance, and just about every single other industry.
>christians in America let jews completely trash their culture VIA holywood and the entertainment industry
>christcucks in America have been fighting jewish wars for them since WW1, arguably even the civil war.
>christcucks vehemently defend Israel while it robs them blind and fucks them in the ass
>the church helped smuggle jews out of the post-collapse USSR, into the US and Israel
>the church followed along with, defended, and preached feminist ideology
>the church helps smuggle known paedophiles within their ranks around the world to avoid prosecution for their abuse of children
>sicut, fucking, judaeis
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>>544368599
You worship jews you lying mongrel
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>>544371052
The bible is a collection of secondhand sources Hans, it was written down by humans.
Chrysostom is part of the Church's history prior to the split between the orthodox and catholic church.
If you don't view the bible through the lens of the people who wrote it, then you won't understand what they are talking about.
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>>544368859
>t.larps as a bronze age jewish cult splinter group
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>>544367985
not true
alt right christians and groypers would say "fuck you jew" with a mean face before turning the other cheek.
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>>544371452
we dont have the teachings of the church fathers in the bible, we have the divinely inspired Word of God by the apostles.
Chrysostom is a 4th century archbishop.
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>>544369696
>no no no no no no goy you dont understand the people who worship and venerate jews totally expelled and massacred jews
>see look it says so in this (((history book))) written by jews, and the jews would never lie!
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>>544369833
>oy vey goy we wuz persecuted it was annudah shoah
It really is incredible how jewish christcucks act
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>>544367891
The fact that you're asking such a question shows how fucking stupid you are, or you're being subversive. Christians worship a jew. Israel is there holy land. Christians *ARE* the jewish machine. Christians aren't going to attack themselves.
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>>544371797
If you worship a jew you're going to act like one eventually.
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>>544370115
>suddenly the bible stops being holy and infallible when we hit you with embarrasing shit you can't refute
christkikes really are such duplicious little discount jews lmao, such disgusting vermin
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>>544370343
>tranny tranny tranny mup de do bix nood
This you, lil bro?
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>>544371932
Have you noticed that Christians behave exactly like trannies on social media?.
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>>544370678
>coping about a one-off article that was debunked by a christian scientist
why are e-chiggers like this
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>>544371837
sure thing, michaela
>>544371840
so it seems.
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>>544367891
Pagans only exist in india.
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>>544372108
> Ask someone if they notice if Christians act like trannies
> A Christian immediately replies, acting like a tranny
This is why there's hundreds of classic memes making fun of you
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>>544371932
e-christians are far worse than jews, it's a level of schizophrenia and deep coping that is almost unbelievable, actual IRL christians at least perfectly accept the nature of their religion, these braindead permaonline discord primates live in this fantasy world of this super duper anti jew nationalist religion that would get them laughed or insulted out of any IRL congregation and are 120% convinced they stumbled upon Da True Christianity™

like 50% of the times you can rebuke them quoting doctors, fathers, experts on the religion itself but it's an incurable type of stockholm syndrome, they will die on the hill they have piled up themselves of le based ethnonationalist racist christian religion based on an aesthetic
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>>544367891

Christianity IS paganism wearing an Abrahamic skin suit, it always has in Europe from the beginning.
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>>544372156
Hinduism is monotheistic, they have one God called the Brahman who shape shifts. Now shit your pants and cry.
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>>544372108
>oy vey da joos dey hates us they do its annudah shoah
>they told us themselves, and the jews would never lie!
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>>544372156
Pagan is a blanket term that covers everyone who doesn't follow any brand of abrahamic mythology.
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>>544372183
If you want to get technical about it, it's all from the zodiac.
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>>544368599
So you hate jesus and his mother and the apostle
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>>544372196
>t.some jungle asian/tourist happa mutt child who was abandonded at some bush church and raised to be a jew worshipping cultist
You know, as much as I meme on you and mock you, I truly do feel bad for you, you poor unfortunate soul.
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>>544372187
ofc its discord jeets.
you worship rape demons.
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>>544371979
Do you think Alex Jones really fucks that tranny? I know attention whores do attention whoring just for the show, but every photo of these two together I see, they genuinely look like they're in love.
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>>544372399
I knew you'd reply exactly like that, because half of this thread is bots. Just because I'm telling the other guy what Hinduism is doesn't mean I'm a Hindu and you're doing this on purpose to shut down the thread
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>>544372264
>gets upset about the mere thought that people who hate jews would reject the jewish messiah and his jewish splinter cult
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>>544372253

one aspect, astrology hidden and codified into the text
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>>544369852
>Shitalian thinks it's white.
Lol. Lmao.
I bet being in the same country as the Vatican has you forming an aneurysm.
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>>544367891
>he didn’t post the before and after version
It’s much better with part 2 included
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>>544372409
wouldn't surprise me in the least, either that or he's his government assigned "girlfriend"/handler
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>>544372438
the only bot and derailer are you, sukhdeep. eat cowshit.
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>>544372501
>Italians aren’t White
>But middle eastern jews are White
At least be consistent
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>>544369696
they let the jews back in at some point recurrently
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>>544367891
>Can pagan and christians ever unite in one big jewish hate machine?
I'm glad you made "Pagan" singular, because that's about how many of them that aren't LARPers there are in 2026.
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>>544372534
>lashes out like a wounded jew
Look man I get it I really do, you desperately want to belong to something bigger than you, so you made (((the church))) a surrogate family in your mind to make up for what you didn't have a child.

I'm sorry michael, but worshipping jews and believing on jewish messianic fairytales just isn't good. It's okay to be upset, it's not okay to enable and defend jews because of it.
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Pagan vs Christian time-wasting thread #864368
These kike bot threads don't usually come out of Brazil. VPN?
Lol look at the massive amount of newfags replying to this shit. You mediocre nobodies think your opinion matters about paganism or Christ
Lol
Lmao, even
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>>544372609
I didn't mentions Jews dipshit. I bet you're just as swarthy as fucking Luigi over here.
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>>544372561
Yeah, that's right. Not reply to me again
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>>544372641
>t.LARPs as a bronze age jewish messianic splinter cultist.
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>>544372656
Bro, that Gook isn't even a Christian. He worships a cartoon girl and his ego.

In fact, he is one the best anti-christ anons here.
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>>544369696
>but they did
If you have to kick someone out of your house 109 times, there's something fishy going on. Clearly you let them back in, or you never kick them out in the first place. It's obviously another persecution narrative that never happened.
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>>544372777
> Belongs to a majority brown cult that worships a brown jew
> Calls other people gooks
Everything a Christian says is an inversion of reality. You're the brown person here.
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>>544372726
You don’t have to mention it. I already know you think jesus and his jewish buddies were White. Am I wrong?
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>>544367891
>Can pagan and christians
No. Christians require doctrinal comformity. They don't even accomplish this between themselves (schisms, sects). Christians are also universalists so racial interests will always be secondary to their personal salvation (again relates to doctrinal conformity).
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>>544369941
The human mind will never be able to understand those kinds of stuff, so it's complicated, but I don't believe the old gods are literally a demon posing as something, the human mind wants God and can find ways to represent it in many ways without knowledge, if it's corrupted by something or not is another subject.
Can you worship satan believing you are worshiping Jesus? Definitely, there are a lot of false Christians out there.
Can you worship Jesus believing you are worshiping some ancient father in heaven? Idk, but it happened before Christ came, it's not for us to choose someone's path, we can just guide them. Don't get me wrong, I would definitely join a crusade to behead every non believer, but such forms of infighting about literal stuff that we won't be able to understand, like it's happening now, are for the masses, not for the source of thought (as we all try to be), what is happening right now is controlled division and it's working.
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>>544367891
Binding faith to an ideology is demoting it to a mere political formula/opinion that can be easily deconstructed based on power and material conditions.

Paganism or Christianity are far beyond politics. And honestly separation of faith and empire is a good thing for the faith, since no m
Political order lasts more than a couple of centuries at the very best scenario, and you don't want to anchor your faith to a doomed political project.
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>>544367985
You're gay lol
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>>544367891
The problem is, Non-Christian antisemites can just hate the Jews wholly with their entire being. They can fully realize the inner Aryan and go complete universal paladin of justice on the most evil demonic race on Earth. They can fully commit to doing the heaven's work to right this gross wrong.

Christian antisemites are by defenition a confused people trapped in an unresolvable love-hate relationship with the Jews. They're like Gollum, they both love and hate the Jew just as they love and hate themselves.

The instinct and desire to do justice upon the Heeb is forever frustrated by their obligate relationship with Yids.
No matter how badly they want to strike down the Kike, their entire spiritual world view depends on the Jews existing.

No matter which way you try and spin it, adopting a fundamentally, foundationally Jewish dogma is a recipe for neurotic dysfunction and failure of antisemitism.
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>>544373243
According to your graph, 4% of atheists are more based than 100% of christians
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>>544373203
are you drunk?
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>>544372501
>tp
>tf
oof madon at least get a guatemalan proxy next time
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>>544367891
Christianity is built in opposition to paganism. Maybe on an individual level they can, but theologically it could never work
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>>544373175
>The human mind will never be able to understand those kinds of stuff, so it's complicated

1 Cor 12
to another the ability to distinguish between spirits

humans who have the Holy Spirit can distinguish the demonic.
paganism infiltrating christianity is a historical fact and resulted in the worst horrors humanity faced and still does.
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>>544367891
no
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>>544373660
I hope he rangebans you, filthy kike, you deserved it
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>>544372850
>Everything a Christian says is an inversion of reality
I agree but that meme flag is a Thai and Chinese gook
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>>544367891
>Can pagan and christians ever unite

YES. What we need is Chinese style communism.
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>>544373660
>announcing ban evasion with a helpful screenshot
lol
lmao
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>>544372264
Personally, I don't even hate jews, or at least I try not to.
I just hate their satanic stuff and how they act and it would be better to exterminate or convert and mix every single one of them, or at least try.
In other words, yeah, I think jews of today are just the pharisees of the bible, not the "people of God" from old times.
I don't think these opinions are productive to the conversation and this type of debate is exactly what this post is trying to avoid, but if my opinion can explain to you "how a mind can have that opinion" so we can unite, then it's here.
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>>544373220
that's just asking something that has not been the case almost since day 1, religion, christianity in particular, and politics go hand in hand precisely because of the totalitarian nature of said religions, for each monk in mount athos actually leaving the world behind you have a billion political christians

at this point the pieces are set, the sides are very much clear, Europe will be completely and finally emptied of content and its very people within a century leading to completion what christianity started a thousand years ago under the latter's placet and opposition to any sort of ideas involving blood and soil, or finally Europeans are going to wake up to the three headed abrahamic monster annihilating this continent's heritage bit by bit
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>>544367891
>Jew-worshipping kike puppets the Christians uniting with anyone against their masters
kek, you're a special kind of fucking retard
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>>544368599
Who asked you, Jungle-Jeet?
Mind ya business.

>BUT I AM AR CHRISTI--

peepeepoopoo nobody cares soulless clay-thing.
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>>544373407
No, he's upset because I pegged him as an abandoned happa child who was dumped at a church
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>>544373368
>complete universal paladin of justice on the most evil demonic race on Earth
I know you added it as a funny thing, but the irony of using Christian ideology to explain this can't be overlooked when you are also implying you want to purge Christianity as well.
Your entire society is based on it, your ancestors make sure of that for a thousand years. To purge it you would need to purge most of your culture as well.
I got your point, just saying pagans are not as "pure" as you might think as well.
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>>544368859
>Um actually if you embrace your own indigenous ancestral spirituality you're a larper, not like me, who pretends to be a Chosenite of an insane Jewish desert god and his rabbi

Sure thing mate.
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>>544367985
/thread
christcuck goy slave retards BTFO hard in the first post and can't even face the simple truth that everyone knows. that is why you will always be slaves.
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>>544374424
I hate your lie, and your garbage existence. Rot in Hell. You fucking cunt.
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>>544368599
>hating Jews is a Christian thing, we invented it, not pagans.
Gee whiz I didn't know that rome was always Christian.
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>>544368599
I missed this gem of favela chimpanzee wisdom
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>>544374478
You are still a mutilated cattle who will never be the Ruler.
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>hating Jews is a Christian thing, we invented it, not pagans.
oh they're trying "being Christian is antisemitic again"
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>>544370115
>The Jews aren't related to the Semitic peoples that DNA proves they're related to

Christianity is so debunked it's not even fun arguing about it anymore. It's just a little sad.
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>>544374793
Christianity recorded all their crimes. You are the one who work to erase it. Dont think I cant see you.
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>>544370684
Sounds like alien Semitic schizoshit to me.

If I'm going to indulge schizoshit I'd rather it's indigenous. At no point should a White have to ever give Jews any heed. We have a right and will to live independent of Jewish anything, just as we existed before.

It's kinda sad that so many people have to struggle with the spiritual pozz.
>Nooooooo without Christianity what will give my life meaning!!???

Something else that is native to you and your people, and not innately a slave morality.

I hate the Jew and want the Jew extinct, therefore I cannot on principle tolerate any ideaology, secular or spiritual, that obligates me to allow their existence.

And if you hate Jews and the constant evil they commit upon this good world, you too must ultimately become obliged to reject Jewish ideas and embrace your own White soul. The slave may also feel fear of escaping his master, but if you want freedom you just have to endure it and then make the jump.
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>>544368536
I think hitler looked down on it because he knew it was not going to happen. He went the „positive christianity“ way, to dejew the faith without turning all german christians against the movement
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>>544375242
I'm just reporting the actual long established doctrine regarding treatment of jews within christian societies, wholly obscure to the braindead larpers pretending to be christians
of course the fact that it led to complete domination of jews over christian societies is hardly surprising
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>>544374898
You’re a gook. Gooks aren’t human. You don’t even have a soul.
>>544375249
Subhumans like him don’t understand pragmatism
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>>544375714
I’m the chosen ONE of God Almighty, and you are nothing but a goycattle with mutilated genital. Your works will never amount to anything.
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>>544367891
No. Christcucks are Jewish liabilities that cannot be trusted.
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>>544368599
Paganism is becoming mainstream as we speak
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>>544375873
You cunts are nothing but sinners that will betray anyone over a gold coin.
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>>544373476
>Christianity is built in opposition to paganism
Exactly that's the whole point of it. That's why I said off is either a moron or he's being subversive.

>>544373790
Yeah that meme flag shows up in these threads constantly. It's an agitator. You don't have to keep replying to it, we know what it is.
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>>544375918
What’s the biggest pagan post you can find on X? Because I see none. All your works are worthless.
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>>544374461
Again you're a Western hemisphere jeet, at the fundamental, your opinion is worthless. Sorry.

Also paladin comes from the ancient Romans (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palatine) but I forgive your ignorance since you're literally talking about things that LITERALLY do not concern you.

>Your entire society is based on it

"Let me tell you all about you and your society"
t. A non-White foreigner

Nope. Melanin detected, opinion totally rejected.
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>>544375934
We all know that you are worthless.
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>>544376014
>>544375934
>Yeah that meme flag shows up in these threads constantly. It's an agitator. You don't have to keep replying to it, we know what it is.
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>>544376066
You can never ignore me because my words remain Truthful.
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Matthew 12:30: "He who is not with me, is against me."
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Just so you know. The 4plebs recorded all deleted post as well.
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>>544374696
>absolute melty
Looks like I'm right over the target kek
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>>544376117
wow so deep mr. Bush
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>>544378029
You are never right about anything. Keep spouting that lie and have a false image of myself in your brain. That’s certainly why you are a loser.
Reality is never aligned with reality because you are a fucking lying piece of shit.

Your weakness disgust me.
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>>544367891
questions for pagans:

1) what is the name of your religion
2) what are it's authoritative sources
3) how were your gods, the earth and humanity created
4) what happens to humans when they die
5) what are some sources that denounce race-mixing and homosexuality

+++

answers from a christian perspective:
>1
christianity
>2
the bible: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%203:16&version=NKJV
>3
god is the uncreated creator. he created the heavens and the earth. he created humanity in his image.
>4
if they lived in accordance with the will of god, they will receive eternal life in heaven. and if not, they will receive eternal death in the lake of hellfire.
>5
anti-race mixing: Tobit 4:12, Ezra 10:10-11, Nehemiah 13:23-27, Joshua 23:12-13
anti-homosexuality: Leviticus 18:22, Deutoronomy 22:5, 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, Revelation 21:8
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>>544368183
we rebuke faggotry
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>>544368850
the national socialists have always advocated for christianity
- https://rentry.org/Deus_Vult_KA
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>>544368859
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>>544368904
jesus's Y chromosome comes from the father
and he wasn't a talmudic kabbalist either (books which weren't written until 600 years after Christ)

>"Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.” Then [the jews] took up stones to [kill] Him [...]"
- John 48-49

he's not "a jew", he's god
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>>544367891
These threads are so forced.

Go to catalogue, and you'll see a christian vs. pagan thread within the top ten most spammed threads on the board literally 100% of the time.

Try it for yourself. Any time, any day. These threads are spaced specifically to maximize engagement around the clock. No other topic shares this posting pattern.

That isn't organic. I came here in 2013, and these threads didn't exist, nobody fucking talked about "paganism" or "christianity" outside of their relation to politics, typically in the gommunism generals or the natsoc generals. They didn't exist until around 2019, and now they're a ever present astrotrufed D&C campaign that is spammed incessantly on this board to fuck with the user base and slide real threads.

Newsflash -- jews are the issue. Jews have always been the issue. Everything else you think is a threat is totally diminished into objective, actual meaningfulness compared to unbridled jewish power. This is the great wisdom of the board, popularizing the importance of the JEWISH QUESTION. The pagan/christian D&C shit is the most retarded yet somehow successful artificial talmudic coiontel op ever perpetrated on /pol/. It's the number one thing I think of when I compare how great this board used to be compared to how absolutely DOGSHIT it is now.
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>>544369339
majority of atheists and pagans are non-white
majority of whites are christian
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>>544369440
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>>544369671
the pagans themselves say they do not know what they worship
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unknown_God
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>>544369774
paul is going to jerusalem, yes. and he praises the greeks for sending money, yes. but those are christians that paul is visiting (saints / belivers)
and in the original manuscript, paul does not call those "jews"
- https://biblehub.com/romans/15-27.htm#lexicon
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>>544370451
>parents Mary & Joseph
he's the son of god
if you wanna talk genetics, his Y haplogroup would be granted from god

>circumcised
so are the muslims
yet i don't see you affirming the islamic belief that he was a muslim, only the judaism one
americans also perform circumcision
is this verse proof that jesus was an american?

>observed the old testament
which kikes do not do
they follow the kabbalah and talmud
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuGAzFyHiwY
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LM8LXk3fRto
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-tjQ19w1v4

>worshiped at the temple
by whipping the jews

>king of the jews
*king of kings
>"These will make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb will overcome them, for He is Lord of lords and King of kings; and those who are with Him are called, chosen, and faithful.”"
- Revelation 17:14
>"And He has on His robe and on His thigh a name written: KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS."
- Revelation 19:16
>"which God will bring about in his own time—God, the blessed and only Ruler, the King of kings and Lord of lords"
- 1 Timothy 6:15

>israel
is the church, not a blashpeming republic
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKlT-hhZXoM&t=658s
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>>544371380
when a pagan emperor came to power and b& christianity, he attempted to rebuild the third temple
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_(emperor)
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>>544371807
the highest goðar of the Asatru Folk Assembly, the allsherjargoði:
>"absolutely, i would work with a pro-white christian. that's not even a question, where do i sign up? i would love to do things that would help our race. one million percent."
- https://odysee.com/@MarkCollett:6/PWR375:1 (~28m)
- https://www.runestone.org/clergy
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>>544374465
https://rumble.com/v70fnss-st.-pauls-cathedral-from-glorious-to-groveling.html
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>>544374793
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>more christcuck spam
>same spam every time
>never bothers to discuss anything
>just a broken record repeating the same drivel over and over
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>>544381296
Aren't you a Jew?
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>>544367891
if pagans shut up
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>>544367891
Christianity is a jewish sect.
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>>544381640
Assblasted LARPagan detected

Christ is King.
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>>544367891
Christians can never truly hate the Jews. They worship a Jew, and they worship the Jewish god. Any hate Christians hold for the Jews is always incidental and incomplete. Total Jewish death will never come from Christianity. A religion that is ultimately designed to serve the Jews.
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>>544367891
The Lord had followers amongst pagan Romans...Catholicism Is what remains from that weird and blasphemous marriage.

Paganism itself is degenerated, and a pagan world would be even worse than a Jewish influenced one... Modern Christianity is based on the urge of acceptation from degenerates whose are easily manipulated by the Devil, while Judaism is a Davidian cult that actually hates God, but modern paganism had no aim neither purpose...Some speculate they are Jew supported movement to weaken Christianity.

I think, that despite modern Christianity has lost a lot of its real identity with God, and that Trump is probably an antichrist (not The Antichrist...he is too dumb for that) isn't wise to join with pagans, Jews are a nuisance...But to validate the pagan movement would open doors to demons.
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>>544383433
kikeslave goyim detected

you bow down to a circumcised jew
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>>544367891
No because Christianity is literally Jew-worship.
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>>544367985
the people you're not talking about are not christians.
to be fair though, most christians are not christians.
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>>544367891
I just closed a live where a Christcuck said evolution isn't real, porn and lewds need to be criminalized and masturbation is a sin. He was a Catholic. I can't stand these fucking people and I honestly don't know whether they're of use because they're so unbelievably retarded and focused on micromanaging people's lives based on their story book. If that guy really believed in fighting something bigger, wouldn't he be doing that instead of telling people to stop touching their penis?

Also Asmongold contradicts himself when talks about how the culture should be Christian and influence laws. He is against everything literally everything they advocate for. I understand the historical claim that Christianity has to the West and I can admit the aesthetic goes hard but the whole claim to "cultural Christian" seems overblown. You don't have to suck them off just because we share a common enemy.
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>>544383553
>They worship a Jew
stupid take, Jesus was the biggest antisemite of human history, that's the only important thing whoever he was and what dialect he was speaking.
>and they worship the Jewish god
no, but i understand it's confusing to have one new testament quote the old one. take jewish rabbis word for it: jews and muslims worship the same god, and christians are excluded. also exterminating christians is their entire lineage obsession for some reason.
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>>544386372
> biggest antisemite of human history
Oh wow he pushed over some tables. If Jesus is anti-semetic then white nationalists are anti-white because we condemn some of the things normie white people do.
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>>544368052
Yeah, Christians and Jews aren't necessary, and neither is this thread.
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>>544383634
ses
>>544384709
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>>544386372
what name would the disciples or paul bave used for god?
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nope, its the jewish way or no way, thats why we hate them so much. their intolerance for all spirituality and alternative to the jew god. christianity here is obviously a subset of jews.
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>>544388214
yahweh
but you gotta say it with out the vowels so it sounds like youre a retard with peanut butter stuck to his mouth
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>>544386372
i dont think you people even know what anti-semitism is
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>>544386327
if evolution isnt real there can be neither greek nor jew can be real, so can one race, the human race.

but if it is real, then theyve purposely extinguished hundreds of thousands of years of divine work by mixing things never meant to be mixed
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>>544369500
>the Christian, who worships an ethnic jew, calling others a larping jew
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>>544391605
its the closest thing to anti-semitism theyre allowed to do
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>>544390583
my dick got hard reading that
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>>544392322
the levels between anti-semitism under christians and anti-semitism under pagans are simply incomparable. the former cant even be called anti-semitism.
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>>544380893
>b-but muh post-Gilmore CoS Twitter Account
How's your detransition coming along, Tsani?
>Israel has corrupted the world, whether by conquest, by conversion, or by conspiracy. The Jew has eaten his way into everything. The caricature of Semitic thought, Christianity, rotted Roman virtue through introducing the moral subterfuge of vicarious atonement.

>"Should we not rather breed humanity for quality by killing off any tainted stock, as we do with other cattle? And exterminating the vermin which infect it, especially Jews and Protestant Christians?"
-Aleister Crowley - "The Jewish Problem Re-Stated by a Gentile"
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>Instead of each person and each race doing its own will, the whole of humanity is being thrown into a melting-pot; the only ambition is to get to the top. . . . But instead of each soul seeking the satisfaction proper to itself, it is persuaded by the popular Press, by the pressure of public opinion, and by the contagious delusion of Democracy, that nothing is worth having save wealth in its grossest interpretation, “modern conveniences” in the crudest sense of the term, and social success in its silliest and shallowest shape.

>Similarly, just as there are certain groups of stars, there are groups of human beings which, while preserving the individual integrity of each unit, have a certain common direction. It is thus legitimate to calculate the destiny of a race, as the astronomer calculates the course of a galaxy. It is the first business of every individual to discover what his true Will is, and then to occupy himself to doing that and nothing else. But he must also reckon with the drift of his race and of humanity as a whole.
>. . . The task of every man is to express himself fully, but he must take into consideration his relationship with the community, since it is a part of his true Will to be a member thereof; and any act of his which conflicts with the true Will of the community, conflicts to that extent with his own true Will.
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>>544367891
Lmao CHRISTIANS HATING JEWS??? Christians outside of /pol love jews more than anything in the world and this is a FACT.
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>>544368859
This is 100% not true and I'm not pagan.
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>>544380847
It's a critical topic in the white nationalist debate and always has been.
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>>544394539
Christians have no argument, so they must gaslight
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There isn't even a single chapter in the New Testament you could feasibly base an idea of ethnonationalism on
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>>544394955
hilariously, that's what makes the pipeline into christian identity clowns, they start lukewarm "christian" for cultural/aesthetic reasons, then if they dig deeper the more they try to square it with ethnonationalism the more they are driven towards the OT which certainly, given the exasperated odium humanis generis of ancient jews, does have some of those elements, until they become essentially old testament jews wannabees until the final cope begins, we waz da real jews
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>>544368599
Why is every pagan community and religion in Christian lands wiped out of existence, but every jewish community and the jewish religion still flourishing in these same self proclaimed jewish hating christian lands?
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>>544367891
Nigger let's be real, every single "pagan" on pol is a kike. Every. Single. One. Have you ever seen a pagan festival? Full of fat liberals married to even fatter mudsharks. They don't like guns or violence, they just want to watch and never partake. Once more and more normies realize that kikes hate Christ more than Hitler, that will continue to convert to traditional Christian sects in mass. Odin himself would suck the dicks of dead soldiers in lore. It's all fallen angel worship and Christianity is the only religion that rejects anything demonic.
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>>544396687
Yeah dude, look at these fat pagan jew liberals
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>>544396687
keep up with the kaak screeches Zambo as well as the slander, it's definitely gonna work
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>>544369433
Those were Free Masons. Traitors. They get it worse than kikes like you >>544372741
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>>544375873
Renounce the Talmud word for word and NOT denounce.
>>544374461
Watch and learn. They never have a problem denouncing anything.
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>>544367891
Jews invented Christianity to separate goyim from their pagan gods.
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>>544386327
If you're a WigNat type, wouldn't you do the same? You'd advocate for micro-managing people's passtimes to ensure that your volk were pure and strong. That means no porn, no lewds, no drugs (outside of select ritualistic/ceremonial purposes), play only in so much as it strengthens the youth. You'd push for these things based off of a criteria of proper actions prescribed by a cannon of political philosophers and evolutionary psychologists. You could analogize this to a system of "sins" against the spirit of your people, or perhaps the spirits or gods your people worshipped. Any individual sense of liberalism would ultimately take a backseat to the strength and integrity of your people.

More importantly, these social parameters would ultimately be enforced in the pursuit of "something bigger", and that you'd know (even if some of your less attuned volk couldn't see it yet) that slowly guiding your kin away from a fantasy landscape of crude, sentimental weaknesses and appetites was a necessary step towards empoworing the volk in preparation for the trial of a true enemy. This is very similar to what Hitler was trying to do with NS Germany.

So the way I see it is that christians are doing what any passionate person who loves their kin would do, but the primary distinction is that christians view *everyone* as their kin. To me, this is a "soft" incompatibility with ethno-nat circles, because in many ways the concepts of "sin against God" are a more inclusive set than "sins against your people".
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>>544396687
>Nigger let's be real, every single "pagan" on pol is a kike. Every. Single. One.

Seethe more. I denounce the Talmud and every single writing that came from the claw of any Jew anywhere.
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>>544397108
I am aware of this utilitarian argument but there are several issues with it. Firstly, the people who are proponents are aware that the spiritual aspect of this ruleset is a sham to better impose their will on the people. The fact that a lie sits at the center of this "objective" morality and the moral laws that come attached repulse me as one of the reasons why I am so against the hard Left is that they require you to lie, to pretend a man can become a woman, that brown immigrants were actually the historical core of our nations etc. The Christian nationalists will not be satisfied being an optional part of society. I have seen and read them salivating at idea of reviving blasphemy laws, barring everyone who is a vocal Christian from government (silence is complicity, sounds familiar) and other forms of societal takeover that I cannot approve of. Leaving all of those aside, universalism is so embedded in Christianity that you run the risk of ushering in an oppressive theocracy and not even getting the promised Western nations for Western people. Aligning with them is a gambit and I see too many people not considering the risks.
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>>544367891
It is not possible, sadly. You can prove this with just a question.
Ask a Christian if he'd prefer a brown Christian Europe or a white (Indo)European Polytheist Europe, and he will answer the former.
On the other hand, ask a Pagan if he'd prefer a brown Indo(European) Polytheist Europe or a white Christian Europe, and he will answer the latter.
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>>544367891

We are all united under the Syndicate and the BIS.

Right now the BIS is in the process of removing anyone who is a net negative to their business and invesement ventures.

Its not personal, but the Syndicate controls all wars to maximize profit.

Things would be much worse if the Syndicate didnt exist.

I am grateful that Pete Hegseth and Scott Bessent and Donald Trump arent who they claim to be, they are just Syndicate Puppets who will ony day kill 40% of Americans and roam the streets to do so personally, to keep the Sytem going.

Americans are enslaved in debt, and since the Pentagon and Mossad et al, are also in debt to the BIS, they will follow those orders, now with enough drones to keep as many people in compliance as possible.

The syndicate chooses all political leaders and all inteligence agencies report to the syndicate to make sure this great system of enlightenment continues.
Muslims are about to go to war with other to protect Project Palestine. Yes Admiral Cooper is guilty of war crimes and genocide, but that is only under the US Constitution and its laws, which arent worth the value of the paper its printed of.
America and all nations have a greater corporate interestt which determines who lives and who dies. The US military claims to defend America, but never actually has, Pearl Harbor was an inside job, just like 911 and the Gulf of Tonkin and more!
The US miltiary only allows terrorist attacks on home soil, only if it can use the political capitol to go to war.
We are nearing the end now, and US now BIS soldiers and drones are going to kill enough citizens to bring the people back into compliance and to get rid of this whole America nonesense.
The Bank of International Settlements owns the us military and us government, and other nations and their governments as well, and as long as Scott Bessent and the Treasury makes sure that US citizens are in debt for generations to come, then we need to die to clear off their balance sheets.
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>>544397057
>Renounce the Talmud word for word and NOT denounce
Why?



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