Elon wins againCommunist bros on suicide watch
>>544432792Whats the waitlist for the roadster?
>>544432792Communism is the future, Robo-Communism, Capitalism has no future.
>>544432792id rather get a cheap reliable car from the govt than watch some richfag drive around in a gimmick vehicle
>>544432792Government handouts to your companies isnt capitalism Elon
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Retard-hands typed this post That "flying car" video was the dumbest thing I've ever seen.."Musk is a brilliant innovator!"*points to Hyperloop...
No human being in the history of the human race has received more government gibs than Elon Musk
>>544433021What have you ever made shitskin?
>>544432878fpbp there are people who have preordered that shit 11 years ago kek
I guess you'll have to keep making AI pics because there was no functional demonstration on how it would practically work on public roads
>>5444328782028*
>>544433058no u
>>544433118Exactly
>>544432792I don’t care about flying car I want a world I can fucking live in.
>>544432792>ai slopOpinion discarded
>>544432792awfully diverse crowd
>>544432792World's leading welfare scammer btw
>>544432878Rofl, gottem
>>544432792
>>544433138JFC the fact that Musk still has any kind of supporters..let alone any who honestly believe in his "genius" and "innovations"Pathetic
>>544433159That's antisemitic anon. You can't have well planed self contained and affordable districts of commie blocks that are inherently resistant to becoming ghettos, because such things are killing development je... companies profit margins.
>>544432792>10 yearsmorning or afternoon?
>>544433058I made ur mom cum
>>544433058Needful post.
>>544433304>>544433350so angry
>>544432792SO LONG AS THE SHAREHOLDERS ARE HAPPY!!! RIGHT GUYS???
>>544432792The bottom doesn't need a subscription to turn on the airbags and doesn't have 50 sensors sending data to the NSA
>>544433304Same is said about Vishnu, sukdeep
>>544432792Come on, look at this thing!
Zoomzooms don't understand that they want to abolish one Jewish system in favor of another.>gabitalism bad, gommunism good.
>>544432792I bet that socialism car has roll down windows, and buttons/knobs for everything, without a single touch screen in sight. I want it.
>>544433380THANK YOU, DODGE BROS!
>>544432878shut up
>>544432886Lol. No.
>>544432792Im confused
>>544432932I understand. Unfortunately you will watch the richfag in his vehicle.
>>544433021Cope harder.
>>544433380Commie you do realize that almost everyone relies on stocks for retirment.BOOM!Apologize. Where do you thin pensions put the money for joe six pack?Well commie?
>>544433064That's okay. Waiting was no problem because they simply drove around in their other supercars.
>>544433564I didn't know how good I had it back then. God I hate touch screen cars.
>>544433074Your post was written by AI.
>>544433304Cope harder.
>>544433299Elon’s got more kids than that
>>544432792Teslas are utter garbage. The Lada is an objectively superior vehicle. And if I was given a choice I would take the Lada.
>>544433380And yet the retards at the bottom of the image keep voting for it.
>>544432792>>544433618Nevermind, just doublechecked, that picture is fake and gay, just like Elon and his commie friends.
>>544432792It's cool and all, but I'd still get Porsche Mission S over the Roadster.
>>544433828>And if I was given a choice I would take the Lada.good new, join Russian mobilization so your family can get one once you die in the war
>>544433299Elon has more kids than that
>>544433828You livd in the UK. Having a choice is something you can only dream of.
>>544433828same. Lada with some work can be a comfy car, Teslas are just garbage boxes
>>544433658Hearty and humble chuckle.
>>544433828This, i've had a Tesla, biggest scam ever, shittiest driving assistants you can find and terrible driving comfort, would unironically choose a Lada every time.Fuck Elon the scam artist.
Why is Hector all spiced up today? This is fun.
>>544433299At least post the right one
>>544433159You are living in the world you communist retard
>>544432792And when could we buy the robots the promised years ago?
>>544432792If anyone thinks that "cool" tesla flying car stunt is a precursor to consumer grade flying cars, they're literally retarded. It has absolutely not the slightest prospect of having any real world application, and that includes the research and tech produced.
>>544433304I always thought he was a faggot, but I am enjoying the intense seething ever since he switched from being a green hippie faggot to more sensible faggot. And now all the hippie leftist faggots who bought his faggot mobile have to put a sticker saying it was before he went crazy.Lmao, faggots. I hope ever EV queer gets rounded up and burnt alive.
>>544433988I wonder if Tesla builds them of lesser quality for the euro market like the europoors do to America? I hate electric cars just because of all the IoT shit. I would love if my golf cart went 75mph. But im happy with my 2005 Malibu and 1972 Catalina.
>>544433760We desperately need ''dumbed down'' EV's.Just imagine an older car with just a simple electrical engine.This will probably be illegal in the future, since ''they'' can't listen in to you or track you.
Why are they like this?
>>544434176Theres swaps available for Jeeps and stuff in America. Essentially a beefed up golf cart setup. Not very fast, but theyre fun around the farms.
>>544432792Capitalism-mobile is fancy useless features and costs a gazillion dollars
>>544432792Will you fucking retards every put it together that this nigger adjacent billionaire promises the moon and never delivers on it?
>>544432792i see 2 failed systemsone where the car is nice but you can't afford itthe other where the car is shit and you'll have to wait a decade for it. either way you're walking.the flying tesla car is objectively neat though and an engineering achievement, i won't deny that.
>>544434264Gosh, I would kill for a Jeep EV with only the engine and battery.Not the golf-cart setup, but a functional EV without all useless electronics like a touchscreen, cameras, sensors, microphones, forced GPS etc etc.Everything analog besides the engine and battery.This is my dream
Redditors in Croatia claim that the Yugo is a better car than a Rimac. The funniest part is that if you were to send all the zoomers back to the mid-80s, they would have an absolute mental breakdown.
i'm looking forward to the cybercab more. provided it really does end up being cheaper than an uber like promised. that would actually touch my life as a guy who can't afford a car and hates riding the bus. provided it doesn't crash or catch on fire anyways.
>>544432792And it's of course not real communism when China does it
>>544433047Jeff Bezos unironically seethes over this every day and Amazon actually has an entire unit devoted to maximizing government gibsmedats now
My friend, in my country we have say for this - - is: communism car not have four wheel. communism car very bad mood when wake up. communism car has two ears..... communism car..... is donkeyHahahahahahahahah is really true yes
>>544432792Basically I hate socialism and marx and shit and read some.But elon musk is worse, I fucking hate government trust fund kiddies. HOLY FUCK DO I HATE PUBLICPRIVATE PARTNERSHIP INVESTMENT
>>54443305820 bucks which musk stole from me.
>>544435144it's like a communist-capitalist hybrid system. it's obviously not pure communism, they tried that and it failed. that's why they adopted many elements of capitalism.
I thought they hated electric cars
>>544434905>types “electric car conversion kit Europe” into search engine >???Man this place just gets dumber by the hour.
>>544435378Why? How does it affect you in your daily life?WELL COMMIE? EXPLAIN?
>>544432792"Post by Elon" Hey Elon your son is a troon.
>>544435449Not true.They don't use communism anymore.The dictatorship is called the communist party that is all.
>>544435489An older car converted with an electric kit will generally not be as good as a modern factory-built dumbed down EV, which they could do in theory.I simply want a dumbed down, modern EV.Not a workaround with a mediocre engine and battery
>>544435796That’s not what you asked for. You asked for a simple, no frills electric jeep. Get to work.
>>544433380Blame the business owners so the people don't notice how high taxes have become.
>>544435882>That’s not what you asked forThat is exactly what I was trying to paint.Electrical kits suck ass and you know it
>Almost entirely paid for with government handouts>Call the other guys socialistsi am glad that niggers kill you daily
>>544435915>Blame the business ownersHow bout we hang em instead? What is your opinion on that?
>>544433380captial takes the most risk and suffers the most loss if a venture fails therefore deserve the most profit. It isn't a hard concept to grasp.
But which car could I realistically own? If I saved for 10 years I doubt id have the money for the tesla to blow or id have my government car.This association jingoism is retarded
>>544436114But the capital in play comes from the taxpayers via handouts, so they should reap the most profits.
>>544432878Kek fpbp
>>544434176If the motor is well made it could last essentially forever with minimal maintenance (except for the battery unfortunately).
>>544433376>hurr durr>shut up retard>LOL U MAD?>>544433658fair enough
>>544435675I imagine it’s like a sword of damacles over everyone’s head over there, not so different than here probably, just worse (in recent memory anyway, the US is no stranger to seizing its citizens property). Probably better in someways, less bureaucratic build up for one, and the difference between governments is not policy so much as it is the economic power enact policy so a richer so called free country can be more oppressive than a poorer dictatorship.
>>544434233Home shopping has been the nail in the coffin for humanity.
>>544433618CHINA GOOD NOW
>>544432792>memeflag>SAAR ELON HAS BEEN WINNING SAAR>DID YOU NOT SEEING THE SLOP VIDEO >SAAR IMAGINE ALL OF US BRAHMIN CRASHING INTO TRAINS AND TIMMIES WITH THIS FLYING IZZAT GENERATOR SAAARlol lmao
>>544435540It makes the cost of living rise faster than inflation and reduces the value of labor.You are almost certainly more communist than I am.
>>544434233Genuinely though this shit is too obvious to not be pointed out. Someone who cares about brand name clothing and uses apple products and drinks starbucks and uses a stanley cup and follows instagram consumerism trends, what do you think their politics are on average? That's democrat base through and through. One of the main attack methods of left against right? Making fun of our pants for not being fashionable enough. And yet there is zero commentary on the irony.
ANONS I CAME FROM THE FUTURE 2028, NEWS LIKE THIS ALL OVER THE SOCIAL MEDIA.
>>544432792A flying car is a short range missile you can own.Let's NOT build those, huh?
>>544435486no one has any concrete beliefs anymore.
>>544434131I decided to make this better.For your archives.
>>544433380Its like you retardsnjust learned the word shareholder this year and collectively decided its referring to some moustache twirling monopoly guy. Everyone with a retirement account like a 401k is a shareholder. The minimum wage workers you see at the grocery store are shareholders.
>>544435675so basically canadas or usas uniparty with fewer steps and less larping. and without the delusion that voting actually replaces who is in charge
>>544432792https://x.com/WhiteHouse/status/2111133703019602016Democrats can just cry about it
>>544437401401ks are scams that prop up the real shareholders. it's legit no different than a "Trump account" which will lock away money that can't be touched for 18 years.you are NOT a shareholder by merely having a 401k. you are NOT going to be rich by merely having a 401k. you are the liquidity.
>>544432878Announced in 2017, production in 2028, so 11 years LOL
>>544433870>elon has friendsI guess if you include 1998 poopstain and gay lover 2007 then he does kek>known him
volkswagen, the people's car, under 1943 national socialism
>>544432792meanwhile in reality china sells you a supercar you can charge at home for $15000, and teslas stop working if they hit a puddle, for over $100000
>>544432878The "flying" one won't ever become available.
>>544432976no, that's exactly what capitalism is and why is has been criticized all these years. it was always a pejorative label until the merchant class tried to relclaim it. the og definition was a system run by those with money at the expense of those that don't, using their power money and influence to a massive degree and changing the course of society for the worse.
>>544432792>waiting list 10 yearsachsually there are people waiting for their car to be delivered for orders put in decades before collapse of soviet union
>>544432878/thread
>>544432878lmao
>>544432792>waiting list: 10 yearsReminder that many people paid Elon $50,000 each to reserve one of these cars, IN TWENTY SEVENTEEN (2017), and there is still not a usable vehicle, nor a timeline for delivery.Balance is the key.Going all in on capitalism just puts you in scam city.
I have AI boomer oneshot by facebook tier conspiracy theory election tourist fatigue
>>544433299checkelon is buying people dinner?mamdani opened government grocery stores to make food more affordable. absolute boomer tier divorced from reality slop>>544434151> I would love if my golf cart went 75mphdrop a 454 into that slut>>544434315yeah but you get to subscribe for heated seats. don't forget to tip elon>>544434905>Not the golf-cart setup, but a functional EV without all useless electronics like a touchscreen, cameras, sensors, microphones, forced GPS etc etc.hey, at least its not the government spying on you, that would be bad>>544435915business owners are the very reason our taxes are so high. they bear almost none of the burden and we bear almost all of it. so we do all the work, they get all the goodies. capitalism is about redistribution of wealth, upwards>>544436901its almost like the capitalists have made themselves a controlled opposition, which lets them keep crime and illegal immigration high, which helps to keep wages low, working conditions squalid, and private prisons full
>>544437401there are two kinds of shareholders. those with and without votes. also when you hold enough shares, you can do whats called a due diligence lawsuit, which is a suit against the company you invest in because they aren't focussed enough on making profits. blackrock does this all the time if you dont promote dei and trans stuff.
>>544439045Power...
>>544436114>captial takes the most risk and suffers the most loss if a venture fails therefore deserve the most profitOnly if there is a risk. Last time government decided that big investment banks are too big to fail and saved them with public money. We may argue if we are still living in capitalist economy or state capitalist or some form of communism but still, reality is that what is modern mainstream model of capitalism is not connected with any meaningful risk.
>>544432792I can at least afford the commie car on my capitalist wage (and those old things are comfy to drive)
>>544432792so how does BYD U9 fit into this now?and that is coming from a BYD hater, Geely is the best chink
Once again Elon wins by not doing shit kek.
>>544436036That worked out well for Zimbabwe.nigger
>>544432792>Jeet flies into WTC1>Nation has a panic attack and invades india as response>World war poo has begunYeah totally based nothing could go wrong.
>>544432792>Elon wins againLooks like he's losing.
>>544442017The cunt is trying to distract from his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein
>Communism>Barnie SandersNigga, please. Majority of "Hardcore Communists" I've met on X considers Barnie to be sell-out and hates him more than Austrian Painter.
>>544432976It shouldn't be, but it is. Privatize profits, socialize losses. Elon has been given tens of billions of taxpayer money so his companies can have an advantage over other American companies.>>544438816Yep.
EugenicsSee you can solve it no one cares
>>544438816>Literally every single thing I don't personally like is capitalism >>544444346>Privatize profits, socialize lossesThat is, by definition, not capitalism. Do you fucking people even listen to yourselves before you open your big stupid mouths?
>>544432792>Capitalism is when stunt car makes a spin and makes low IQ idiots drool over That car will never be on the streets. Passengers can't fit where the compressed tanks are and no country would allow idiots to have a car with thrusters because they will just end up killing people or themselves
>>544433058YES LEAVE THE BILLIONAIRE CEO ALONE SAAR
>>544432792Damn Bernie is promising people free cars?Fuck Elon's gay DeLorean.
>>544432792still waiting hyperloop which elon promised in 2005
>>544432792Mutts think trsla is better than some random European car. Fucking kek.
>>544446222Screenshotted for posterity. I love how you commie dorks are wrong so God damn always.
>>544444346Elon Musk was paid by Biden's government to build electric cars to combat climate changeThe use of private industries for strategic interests is perfectly compatible with capitalism, China does the same thing
>>544443013yeah tesla is doomed, americans have not seen the chinese competition yet. bet they start importing them next year with GM brand badges.
You'll get a government Lada before you get Elon's flying fantasy.
>>544445980>Louis Blanc (1850): The French socialist is widely credited with one of the earliest explicit definitions of the term. He defined it as "the appropriation of capital by some to the exclusion of others.">• While Marx rarely used the exact word "capitalism" (preferring "capitalist mode of production"), Das Kapital defined the system by two core criteria:>The concentration of physical means of production (factories, tools, raw materials) in the hands of a private owner class (the bourgeoisie).>The reliance on a propertyless class of workers (the proletariat) who must sell their labor-power for a wage to survive.
>>544449222checked. not the same at all. china subsidized their cars last year at around 400$ per unit and there are many companies competing. unlike in the US where tesla has no real competition getting 7500 dollar handout per unit.
>>544450076Remember kids,Capitalism, socialism (all flavors), communism, and all other “-isms” are all derivatives of judaism.They exist for the sole purpose of inflicting central banking on a target population.Fiat currency is fake money that steals from everyone who is not the banker.
>>544432878Haven't seen a funny fippy bippy like this in a long time kek
>>544450081So, more vague nuance from a bunch of faggots that have never worked a day in their lives. Thanks for the reply
>>544450124Biden, and the US still does, provide subsides for electric cars. Saying otherwise is just arguing against reality and US law. The US simply does not require as much subsides as the US their industries are profitable enough, where as China's economic model requires heavy debt financing because it's not.
>>544450076what is this image trying to convey? that space-x doesnt have the capability to put a couple tons in orbit? delusional retard
>>544450076>>544450681
>>544450081The complexity of society requires lot of people to work and provide things. Calling it capitalist doesn't the reality of the human condition.
>>544450819again, what's your point? are all those rockets and satellites fake too numb nuts?
>>544433058I'll be honest that flying car video seems like something Indians and South Americans would REALLY love and watch 10000000 times on repeat.
yay a car I'll never afford because my job doesn't exist, inflation rapes me and whole day work hard get little pay eh eh maddha fakkah?oh and jeets own all out industries and properties and corporations too!!BAAAAASED BASED BASED BASED TOTAL WHITEY DEATH MAKE LONE GO UP BASED ELON MUSK SNIFFFFFF LET ME SNIFFFFFF YOUR BALLS DADDY ELON UUUUUWWWUUUUUU
>>544438699Not in shitty Africa, that's for sure.
>>544432878lel! fpbp
>>544432792As long as faggots confuse socialism with communism there's nothing to worry about.You can beat up your strawman online all you want, while socialists swell their ranks each day in America.
>>544433058>be burger>cuck for his boss
>>544432886This. "Socialism with American Characteristics" is the way forward. For about 20 years at least, before the ruling socialist party also becomes corrupt and centralizes power around a single individual or family and we need fascism to restore the balance again.
>RoadsterShould've named it the nigger destroyer 2000
>>544450556>vague nuanceno its very specific, and echoes the definition i gave, as well as the reason i used itblanc was a journalist and a historian, he had 2 jobs.marx was a journalist, an editor and a writer, as well as a political organizer. that takes a lot of work.i've noticed you just want to lie and wiggle and straw man your way out of this. is that because you have no arguments?
What does a $100000 car for rich assholes do for me as an average person? Absolutely nothing.
this meme is so retarded>socialism isnt even good on paper>both capitalism and socialism suck because people suck anyway>the flying tesla is not happening in capitalism, china is literally more capitalist than the US or Europe. this is in a system in which young people are COOKED because of government mandated high home prices and inflation
>>544450849socialism requires lots of people to work and provide things in a complex society. i don't know what you're on about, or what your point could be. you obviously don't understand what i wrote or are pretending to not understand, which is common.the specific scenario of having people do the work that actually provides value, and the workers only keeping a small percentage of it, is what is seen as unfair. this is wealth redistribution to the upper classes. if you want to be intellectually honest, look at hutterite communities in canada and us. they are literal communists and are some of the most successful businesspeople in the world. captains of industry. and they mostly do it far far cheaper than their competitors, who lobbied the government to take away their tax free status. more capitalism, more taxes.
>>544452182If you get in their way they can use the rocket boost to run you over.
>>544452065>Journalist, historian, writer, political organizer Not a real job among the list
>>544432792fixed
>>544452339how are you defining more capitalist? china has huge amounts of industry, which is not unique to communism or capitalism. this whole service economy in the us and uk is quite a bit more capitalist, as the capitalists sent all the jobs and factories to china because its cheaper and they don't have to pay you or care about your human rights or if you jump off the iphone building.the reason home prices are high is because innovation is super expensive, and capitalists dont like that. so they just start gobbling up everything they can and rent it back to the people they stole it from. when you have late stage capitalism you have asset booms like in housing, because there's no more ways to make big profits. the governments allow the loose monetary policy which makes this possible, because capitalists have more money to throw around and only their voice matters.if you've noticed, just about everything in your life has come from government funded research, at least partially. like gps, the internet, night vision, FUCKING HIGHWAYS, MRI machines, insulin, touch screens, led lights, the list goes on. >>544452510oh cool a no true scotsman, i get to use this image
>>544436114>captial takes the most risk and suffers the most loss if a venture fails therefore deserve the most profit. It isn't a hard concept to grasp.This would be true if the capital wasn't loaned and they could just woops bankruptcy, then form a new venture under a different LLC with fresh credit.The bank eats the losses, which means everyone pays for it.
>>544432792https://youtu.be/fJwXSOLQ0ow?si=XQ5qfdcxLFkvTzFU
>>544433058>t. pro IKEA assembler
>>544453274Well well well...
>>544432792The model available for the goyim will probably only have thrusters at the back of the car. It wont jump, fly or do anything. The system that vaccum under the car is old he simply copied the idea(1970) from the chapparal 2j.
>>544452796K bud. My point was "privatizing gains, socializing losses" automatically makes whatever system we are currently living under not capitalism by definition. Then you stumbled along and just started dropping long-winded, off topic quotes from jobless faggots that I don't agree with and now you are just sitting here calling me a straw-man weaver just because I don't want to engage with your completely irrelevant, retarded, dishonest line of questioning, that, again, has nothing to do with my original point. Is it any wonder nobody wants to have an open and honest discussion with you fucking commie faggots? It's incredible how much leftist discourse is just them absolutely refusing to understand anything, thus, making discourse impossible
>>544450914Was shot in a studio, retard.Elon even jokes about how it looks fake as fuck, because it is (or something like that)
>>544432792Kek your cartoon is full of browns, fuck off and die jewboy.
>Elon>capitalismlmaoooooo
>>544453708Ground effects are pretty dangerous at speed, lift and die; a tesla is heavy as a battle tank, so maybe less dangerous lol
>>544432792Capitalism can't even do the basic shit like provide affordable housing.
>>544454409Because our battery technology sucks donkey balls. We're trying to create electric cars with these weak ass batteries. It's like a primitive tribe trying to build a skyscraper out of sticks. We don't have the technology really, we're just forcing it.
>>544452382You still have to work under socialismYour ideas are just stupid because the goal of any society is provide a higher quality of life than the previous. The Chinese understood that, and abandoned your doctrinaire beliefs>look at hutterite communities in canada and usThey're essentially free-ride societies, and ironically Marx opposed these utopian socialist experiments for the same reason. They're also poorer than most people, people leave them all the time to seek a better quality of life. This isn't unique to them either because a similar process happened in Israel with the Kibbutz and Maoist China with the Peoples' Communes. You're basically glazing poverty, the same poverty that Mao Zedong championed.
>>544452796KeK!!! cope>the capitalists sent all the jobs and factories to china because its cheaper and they don't have to pay you or care about your human rights or if you jump off the iphone building.true, ngl>the reason home prices are high is because innovation is super expensive, and capitalists dont like that. so they just start gobbling up everything they can and rent it back to the people they stole it from.this is fucking retarded, no, that's not how it works. the reason home prices are high is people with YOUR BELIEFSbecause western governments pull strings to force high home prices in order to improve boomer home value, at the expense of plummetting birth rates and killing off an entire ethnicity of people and civilization. thank democracy for that. and people with your beliefs don't even notice this, let alone understand how they do it. i've been on 4chan a while. and based on pattern recognition, i just know you're the type of anon who, if I tried to explain this to you, you'd say its incomprehensible nonsense and that I'm weird and I'm lying. they're robbing you, and trying to explain to you how they're doing it would be like explaining the blockchain to a dog. KEK
>>544432878You lost tranny o algx
>Capitalism: Thing that doesn't exist>Communism: Thing that existsWhat did he mean by this?
>>544455250The US does not have a capitalist economy, mostly because of the Federal Reserve system. A central bank like that is literally a tenant of the Communist Manifesto. The Federal Reserve in the west does everything it can to boost consumption, therefore boosting GDP. And with higher GDP, you can backstop higher debt. Everyone's in debt, debt paying off other debt, in this house of cards.Basically we see regular people are pushed into debt so they go on the consumption hamster-wheel, while the assets of the rich are blown up to a ludicrous level. This is a huge wealth transfer.Money is supposed to be nothing more than a medium of exchange, but debt-as-money has created a system of organized theft. My basic point this whole time is that consumption, beyond a certain level, is harmful to people. They become fat, dull, spiritually indolent. If we pared back the consumption economy and let people work less, they would enjoy life more, rather than consuming things they don't need. Because while GDP is an investment in things, there's also human capital. The strength of the population itself. We haven't invested into that, and that's why our populations kind of suck. We couldn't fight a war with this.
>>544452796not to mention...>when you have late stage capitalism you have asset booms like in housing, because there's no more ways to make big profits. the governments allow the loose monetary policy which makes this possible, because capitalists have more money to throw around and only their voice matters.this is a normie take and makes zero sense. you at least understand that the affordability crisis is from money printing.the>capitalism is bad because then rich people bribe the government to their benefitis logically so stupid, i'll try to explain why to you, but i can't make any promisesif government intervenes and uses the monopoly on violence to impose an outcome, that's the opposite of capitalism. typical counter arguments to this tend to be similar to "but in capitalism, money is king, so of course they can buy the government too". no. its not that in capitalism, money is king. officials who should serve the people should not be corrupted for money.but the thing is, if officials who should serve the people are corrupted for money in "capitalism", they can do the same in socialism. who says money isn't king in socialism? the greed for money is due to what you can buy with it, and those things are still present in a socialist society. the same corrupt officials who undermine the free market can still just take resources people need for themselves if they're in power in socialism.that argument is just backwards and makes zero sense.>if you've noticed, just about everything in your life has come from government funded research, at least partially. like gps, the internet, night vision, FUCKING HIGHWAYS, MRI machines, insulin, touch screens, led lights, the list goes on.you literally just said capitalists are evil and the government caters to them
>>544455250>The US does not have a capitalist economy, mostly because of the Federal Reserve system. A central bank like that is literally a tenant of the Communist Manifesto.This is a poor understanding of the Federal Reserve system. The federal reserve exists because before it was common for banks to fail because they would give out loans high risk people who would never pay them back after making bad investments. The Federal Reserve was created to solve banking crisis. Central banking is just an example of how capitalism has sublimation the contradictions of anarchic production.
>>544434233Westerners want socialism at the expense of the global south. You cannot achieve that as long as the west keeps exploiting the south for their treats and way of life. Western leftist larpers will never give up their luxuries even if that's the right thing to do.
>>544455641what luxuries idiot kek we're struggling
>>544432792When has Elon made a flying car?PS. fuck Bernie
>>544455571>The Federal Reserve was created to solve banking crisis.Naive? The federal reserve was created after a secret meeting on Jekyl island. The bank is created in 1921 and establishes *literally the most jewish system possible* where debt pays off other debt. People realized there's no actual money in the banks, and pulled their money out, collapsing the system like a house of cards.Then FDR the communist uses this crisis to justify his rule for 4 long terms. Every time he would pass some crazy socialist measure, like nationalizing the farms, nationalizing industry, everyone would suffer, and FDR would blame the capitalist thus securing his popularity. I think they crashed the economy on purpose so FDR could get in and do this. After all a central bank is a tenant of the communist manifesto, and FDR never held them to account for crashing the economy, instead going after private business trying to implement more communist agenda items.
>>544434927This!Imagine having affordable housing and no iGoy!THE HORROR!
>>544455827normies think that due to a fake video that elon posted on twitter
>>544455891>Naive? The federal reserve was created after a secret meeting on Jekyl island.Conspiratorial thinking like this is why capitalists are struggling with rising socialist movementsInstead of acknowledging the problems, and solving them, you invent excuses and scapegoats
>>544432792If you unironically shill capitalism and call yourself a capitalist you're on the flipside of the same coin of people who call themselves communists. Both ignore reality and the flaws and shill idealisms. Capitalism is proving to be more dangerous overall because the boil off happens slower and by the time it fails so much power consolidation has happened that the people are stuck in a dystopian society for a thousand years with no way to reverse it. That's where we're headed because of capitalism. Own nothing, be happy. 15 minute cities. Mass surveillance. Force genetic modification. Digital id, digital currency, social credit score. The donor class buying off politicians shaping the world we live in to their will. Infinite money hacks for the elite while they produce nothing. The guns are all aiming at us and protecting them. Police are just "following orders". Simply put, capitalism morphs into feudalism.
>>544456309The federal reserve didn't "solve problems", it created this debt-spiralling consumption economy. These so-called "crises" that you're talking about are nothing compared to the massive collapses after the federal reserve system went into place.
>>544456384The Federal Reserve reduced bank panics thereby making making investment safer, leading to less economic disputation.>debt-spiralling consumption economy. I don't even think you understand US debt. US actually makes money off its debt is a top of security that foreign countries love holding we United States has always paid its interest payments.
>>544456675>The Federal Reserve reduced bank panics thereby making making investment saferOh except a little thing called THE GREAT DEPRESSION, and the offshoring of industry, and the massive wealth disparity today where everyone is put in debt and the assets of a few are skyrocketed to the moon, and the housing market absorbs the moneyprinting sending housing prices skyrocketing. Like the federal reserve is a fucking abomination. Money is supposed to be a medium of exchange, but in this system, money is debt.
>>544456759>Oh except a little thing called THE GREAT DEPRESSION,The argument that Federal Reserve banking system reduced recessions, not eliminated them. We have quantitatively experienced less bank panics and depressions afterwards. Also, this point is laughably silly. The Great Depression was largely because the federal reserve had limited authority over banks. That's why it was strengthened in response to the crisis.
>>544456759Moneyfags are extremely retarded. They'll tell you how our current system works but completely ignore that it doesn't actually work. They're rote learners who memorize little "factoids" and that's about it. Weirdos.
Also>the massive wealth disparity today where everyone is put in debt and the assets Also, what the hell are you even on about? Life expectancy, GDP per capita, HDI have risen gradually since the 1930s. Real wages were rising prior to Trump's tariffs and the war in Iran. You're unironically being a retarded communist here.
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>>544456977>The argument that Federal Reserve banking system reduced recessions, not eliminated themIt fucking sucked. If that is the solution to the problem the "solution" didn't work did it? It seems like the whole point of the Federal Reserve was the crash the economy and send us into communism with FDR. That was the play, the entire time. Now we're stuck with this debt-based scheme for a currency model that fucking sucks.
>>544456977>bank runsGod forbid people actually possess their own money and assets because the banks and investors fucked up in their pursuits in the name of greed right? Better to keep the elite safe from the plebs extracting what they own by devaluing the currency. It just HAS to be this way because... IT JUST DOES OKAY?!
>>544457085>Life expectancyBarely went up if you exclude infant mortality. And because of capitalism it's actually going back down.>GDP per capitaFake and gay. GDP is what leads retards like you to say the UK which only does fiat banking and investing is somehow richer than Russia that has resources, production, land, people, and real skills.
>>544457180The solution obviously worked because we haven't had a Great Depression since. Your solution is just to return the era more banking panics.>send us into communism with FDRYou're not a serious person if you think social security is communism. The rise in communism across the world was the result of Hitler's stupidity for betraying Stalin, and allowing the Soviet Union to expand its borders.>Now we're stuck with this debt-basedAgain, you don't understand US debt works. US debt is a security the government trades, and makes money off. Countries want to hold US debt because its a consistent return on investment because the US has never missed an interest payment. The US isn't struggling to the pay the interest payment either, and could easily pay if it the US government reserved the Trump, Bush Era tax cuts which does more to explain the "wealth disparity" you're complaining about.
>>544432792>capitalism>[made in China]
>>544457504>The solution obviously worked because we haven't had a Great Depression since.Instead of a crash that effectively ends a gilded age leading up to a golden age like before we just frankensteining gilded age v2 to live forever at the expense of our freedom, culture, wealth, and quality of life. Hell, we're even being replaced by foreigners who won't rebel. Good thing we didn't have a second great depression, right? This is much better...
>>544457504>The solution obviously worked because we haven't had a Great Depression since.We are in the depression now. Systematic wealth transfer from the productive workers to the unproductive vulture-class. An entire consumer economy that is nothing but fluff-jobs. >You're not a serious person if you think social security is communismFDR was nationalizing farming and shit, he was nationalizing major industries. It wasn't just "social security" like you're saying. He was threatening to smash the entire system with his court-packing scheme. He was basically America's Hugo Chavez. >The rise in communism across the world was the result of Hitler's stupidity for betraying StalinNo it was the result of FDR the communist riding out on a white horse to defeat the greatest enemies of global communism, then retreat and let communists have half the world.
>>544457625>We are in the depression now.Pffft what are you talking about look at the stock market bro! We're living in a golden age right now! There's more wealth in the US than there has ever been it's fucking great! Don't you feel it?
>>544435675Almost all major companies there are state owned.
>>544432792>Communism is when you can't afford a car>>544457504>The US isn't struggling to the pay the interest paymentSo long as they continue to accept our monopoly money IOUs which won't be for much longer.
>>544457478>Barely went up if you exclude infant mortalityAll life expectancy metrics include infant morality. You don't know how life expectancy is measured either, lol. Infant mortality has also fallen since the 1930s too, only spiking really under communist famines in Russia and China.>Fake and gay. GDP is what leads retards lYou don't even know the difference GDP and GDP per capita, which I said. They're not even the same. Even ignoring this retarded argument, Even the Communist Party of China records GDP because its not a fake statistic. It accurately measures the productivity of a country. Countries with higher GDP are able to produce more roads, more housing, more hospitals, more trains, more food, essentially, more things to improve life. Calling GDP "fake" puts just means you have the same economic ideas of Pol Pot.
>>544432878Kek
>>544453811>"privatizing gains, socializing losses"no this is the definition of capitalism, as defined by the one who coined the term, and the most famous one to use it. its a description of an exploitative system, not a philosophical standpoint.you just want to keep dragging things down into the mud. there has been nothing open and honest about what you're saying or doing the entire thread.this may surprise you, but other people can read what you're writing too.>>544455295i said that government policy is favouring asset price increases, yes. and no i dont advocate for nobody having a home, what are you talking about. do you just like to waste people's time with nonsense? you ARE german, this is a possibility
>>544432792I don't know that a gimmick demo is actually capitalism, but I don't want either choice in OP's pic. I just want mostly white, secular or Christian, middle class America back. Send all the third world browns with their weird ideologies and crappy ideas and crappy cultures back. When you have to make DEI into a policy and force people to hire them, then you know they suck. Instituting DEI is basically low key admitting that they suck.
>>544457774>Even the Communist Party of China records GDP because its not a fake statistic. It accurately measures the productivity of a country.This is laughable. China is just copying the US model because that's all they know how to do, copy everything. GDP doesn't measure production, but spending. When Intel loans $700 billion to OpenAI, who then uses the money to buy Intel GPU's, is that economic activity? It looks like a circlejerk to me.
>>544457625>We are in the depression now. The US is suffering largely because of its the trade war you started and the foreign war you started with Iran. Not understanding point here. This is what Americans voted for and wanted.>FDR was nationalizing farming and shit, he was nationalizing major industries.Much of which was reversed by the Supreme Court. Nationalization isn't necessarily moving towards communism either.Napoleon nationalized enterprises, Pinochet allowed the ownership of state enterprises, and neither of which led to communism.>No it was the result of FDR the communist riding out on a white horse to defeat the greatest enemies of global communism,Hitler, the man who teamed up with Stalin, to occupy Poland, which actually defeated Lenin's global revolution, was not the "greatest enemies of global communism."
>>544458028>The US is suffering largely because of its the trade warThat's not what I'm talking about. You realize 60 years ago, everyone was predicting that by the year 2020, we would be working 10 hours/week, because we'd have so many labor saving devices? Why didn't that happen? Instead we work longer than ever, for less money than ever, while all the gains from technology accrue to a few people at the top. This is the debt-based economic model which sends you running on a hamster wheel to nowhere. Get rid of it. >Much of which was reversed by the Supreme Court.Yeah and he was threatening to end the Supreme Court. He was going full commie dictator mode, until WW2 happened and forced him to reprioritize. >Hitler was not the "greatest enemies of global communism."His whole ideology was anti-communist. He banned the communist party. He executed communists wherever he found them. Teaming up with Stalin was just his way of getting access to the Soviet border so he could invade, which Poland had been blocking previously.
>>544455496>you at least understand that the affordability crisis is from money printing.almost all of the money in the economy is created by private banks.https://youtu.be/c8sN_hPHjgYwhen money is created so that existing assets can change hands instead of capital investment you get asset price rises. the money supply is out of whack with the real value in the economy.the rest is you just redefining capitalism in randian terms so you can be right. again the term was coined as an analytical, pejorative term. marx was analyzing a system in which things happened, and measureably so. not some abstract philosophy loosely based on gnosticism, like rand the weirdo cult leader. the romans used to make the equivalent of billionaires run cities for them, as in pay for everything. the plebs didnt pay. they had to maintain roads, sewers, water, garbage collection. this was to make sure their power didn't come to rival the state.>literally said capitalists etc,these things all came from government mandate and funding, at least in part. when the government bears the cost of research and development, it means that the private companies dont have to spend as much. and when the state pays for your home and health care, the employers dont. this is why marx thought communism was inevitable, rightly or wrongly. but there is a benefit to having the state bear costs. we see this in china all the time, they are the defacto superpower of the world at this point.
>>544457979>China is just copying the US model because that's all they know how to do, copy everything.The US model of starting wars in the Middle East, and trade war with every country it does business with? Not really, China has spent most of its time giving loans to under developed countries, and building strategic relationships with Europe. Xi regularly defends privatization and free trade at Davos. If the US was copying China, it would actually be successful instead of having school shootings every day.>When Intel loans $700 billion to OpenAI, who then uses the money to buy Intel GPU's, is that economic activity?Trump partiality nationalized Intel last year, and much of the money going into AI is from the US government. US has made it clear AI is simply a weapon they pay to use to count the growth of China's influence and rapidly increasingly powerful military. It is in response to multi-polarity because the US realizes it is no longer a superpower and an empire in decline.
>>544455250no, marx opposed them because they are isolationists and not rooting for worldwide communism. the goalpost is whether or not they are successful in their model, and they are, amazingly so. and yes people have the choice to stay in the colony or not. they go out of the colony to experience "the world", so that none of them have illusions about their lives and a free choice as to stay or not. and not having a bank account or personal property would make you poor on paper, except you have a communal dining hall where you eat for free, your clothes are made on site and made as needed, all kinds of stuff. so you're being very dishonest here. then you try and go on a moral finger wag, very disingenuous. >youuuu just loooove poverty. come on now. keep acting like your country isn't rotted to the core with poverty and getting worse.
>>544432792I mean, there is like 40 years difference between both these cars and Lada's are up there with Corolla E20/VW Transporter tier reliablePic related is the commie challenger to the Tesla.
>>544457774>All life expectancy metrics include infant morality.And you're a retard for appealing to those metrics. >gdpLet's make this simple. Is the UK or Russia richer? This is a litmus test. Let's see if you pass it. The answer is obvious to anyone capable of extrapolating truth from real data instead of consuming spoon fed slop.Russia or the UK? Who is richer?
>>544458225>You realize 60 years ago, everyone was predicting that by the year 2020, we would be working 10 hours/weekWorking hours have decreased dramatically since Marx's time largely because of technological advance. Not sure how that's relevant to people making bad predictions about how extreme it would be, but generally speaking, people are working less. And, there are people who do, in fact, work 10 hours a week because either they collect Social Security with side job, or they live off fictitious capital like stocks, forex trading and index funds.
>>544457259its clear you dont know what a bank run is. its when the bank doesnt have the cash to cover all it owes. this collapses entire communities if not econmies
>>544432878There probably isnt one yet just a big fat stack of bills from retard fanboys>>544433058He made ((((your)))) mom moan, faggot>>544433828Lada runs with 24 volts battery charged by the alternator.Tesla needs to be plugged in which is evocative of butt sex which is on brand for Elon the walking estrogen vial, fanboys, funboys, and migger contrarians.
>>544458505>You're a retard for not believing me over the people running China, the one the most successful countries in modern history I don't think so Tim
>>544458529Imprison banksters for fraud for operating outside their means.Don't de-value our currency.You want to protect the banks and harm the people.
>Is the UK or Russia richer? Russia currently defaulted on its foreign debt, if it was richer, it wouldn't struggle paying for it.
There's a lot of these threads lately.I'm guessing Tesla stock was slipping?
>>544458634Answer the question. Russia or the UK?Tell me how 1930s Germany became a superpower overnight once they decided to ignore the metrics and fiat nonsense you idolize. If they were so poor then why could they snap their fingers and decide they weren't poor at all by simply not playing the game? They based their currency on production and getting shit done and like magic, turns out real wealth wasn't gdp all along.
>>544433747We dont get pensions anymore dumbass and 401ks are a scam.
>>544458660>Imprison banksters for fraud for operating outside their means.ok>Don't de-value our currency.you are imagining history. it was the reluctance to devalue the currency which kept the crisis going. >You want to protect the banks and harm the people.demonstrably the opposite. just a karen aren't you? YOU'RE JUST A MISOGYNIST!! YOU LIKE TRUMP!!! what is the difference between you, i don't know anymore.you also seem to have an understanding of economics based entirely on the turner diaries, which is grim.
>>544458514>Working hours have decreased dramatically since Marx's time largely because of technological advance.I don't give a shit about Marx. Marx is a jew retard. Nothing I've said even relates to Marx. Learn to discuss ideas and not people. >generally speaking, people are working lessNo, they're working longer than ever, sometimes 3 or 4 jobs, just to afford rent. Interest on debt is a giant vaccum sucking time and money out of the pockets of normal people and blowing up the assets of the ultra wealthy.
>>544458754Elon finally popped like an estrogen filled water balloon of course niggas was slippin.
>>544458940>I don't give a shit about Marx. Marx is a jew retard.If you weren't a retard, and could read, you realize that statement is a contradiction of Marx's argument, the argument you're using, to defend the idea working days have gotten longer lol.You're unironically using communist arguments.>No, they're working longer than ever, sometimes 3 or 4 jobs, Like right now, because you voted for Trump, who caused a trade war with the world and started a with Iran that disrupted global oil prices. This basically your fault, as an American. Why should anyone feel sympathy for you.
>>544458932Your idea of economics is strictly within the confines of modern economic propaganda justifying it's entire existence. It's a feedback loop. You're in a bubble and you can't seem to get out. You don't actually understand real power or real wealth. You're a midwit who loves being in shackles and appealing to the authority of your masters. Public schooling worked very well on you.
>>544432792>Elon>CapitalismTax payer money gibs me dat is anything but capitalism.
>>544459092>you realize that statement is a contradiction of Marx's argument,Why read something retarded written by an uneducated person from 200 years ago? I don't give a shit what Marx said. He's a complete retard. >You're unironically using communist arguments.A central bank is IN THE COMMUNIST MANIFESTO>who caused a trade war with the worldI'm not talking about that at all, you idiot. I'm talking about something totally separate. The price of oil is a problem for central bankers trying to manage the ponzie scheme of debt and inflation. Even if it was ended, you'd still be in the same trap. 90% of the money supply in society is debt. There is more debt, than dollars
>>544459248>Why read something retarded written by an uneducated person from 200 years ago? I don't give a shit what Marx said. He's a complete retard.You're either a bot, or just proving the fact Americans can't read above a fifth grade education. You are making pro-Marx arguments, and I'm just dismantling them with statistics. You are unironically defending communism.>A central bank is IN THE COMMUNIST MANIFESTOEven here you're defending the communist manifesto, lmfao. Marx wasn't even the first communist, or the only communist, so his conception of communism is totally irrelevant to anything you're saying. Central banking becoming a part of capitalism wasn't because of Marx writing the Manifesto, only a retard like you believes that lmfao.To you, Marx somehow had magic jew powers, and he tricked anyone into believing in central banks... instead of acknowledging the fact capitalists realized regulation was necessary to control bank failures. You're a clown.
Finally the upper middle class drivers have a champion.
>>544459099check>Your idea of economics is strictly within the confines of modern economic propaganda justifying it's entire existence.no, mmt. you are just fighting the strawmen that live in your mind. >You're a midwit who loves being in shackles and appealing to the authority of your mastersevery last molecule of my no uand absolutely nowhere is there even a vestige of an argument, just insisting you won. like every conflict with americans, from 1812 to iran. oh shit almost forgot about the barbary coast pirates you niggers had to pay off for years.
>>544432878Bodied that kike. Also the autist mobile will NEVER be more than a meme for le reddit atheists just like space travel.
>>544432792>State capitalism
>>54443279210 year waitlist (that you can shorten by bribing a dude with $500) for a free car that is kinda lame.>Vs 11 Year (and counting) wait list for a car that will take 3 years of monthly payments to pay off. Meaning you have to hold down a job in an economy that is incentivized to replace you or suppress your wages through importing a billion browns.
>>544458230>almost all of the money in the economy is created by private banks.its so tiresome
>>544457876So if I was the first guy to critique communism, I get to determine it's definition and what communism stands for, forever? Gtfo of my face asshole
>>544432878>concept was in 2017holy shit lmao
>>544432878Keking at the vpn samefagging in this shitty post, reddit raiders are really mad huh?
>>544434025W
>>544433811>>544433924We know Elon, fuck off
>>544432878>10 year waitlist for a cool dedicated bleeding edge track hypercar>10 year waitlist for a new old stock zastava yugolol
>>544432878kekalso its just a funny gimmick car, not actually functional, its a cool tech display though but this shit is never taking of
>>544432792More jew nigger freemasonic mkultra fake space enron madoff horseshit wrong bot Elon fucks is a mossady communist bitch yelstin admitted space is fake
>>544432792Earth is flat stationary no geometric horizon goerhing was a flat earther gehlen was too
>>544432792capitalism moved millions of shitskins into my country tho
>>544432878Raped lmao
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>>544437401It's a mustache twirling kike you retard.
>>544452836this
>>544433047>human raceOne race.
>>544462052Youre seething.
Question: where is the socialized part on that pic?
>>544432878Fpbp>>544433299>>544455250>>544459752>>544452933Most cuckolded slave award
>>544463374Sure thing brownoid from reddit
>>54446352794 million died under communism: grokipedia.com/page/The_Black_Book_of_CommunismEconomic freedom is good for economic recovery and per capita GDP: (Baier et al., 2012; Chortareas et al., 2013; Lee et al., 2016; Wang & Luo, 2019), Callais & Pavlik (2022), Eslamloueyan & Jafari (2019), Candela & Geloso (2021), Geloso & Bologna-Pavlik (2021), Connors & Norton (2012) from menghu.substack.com/p/how-economic-freedom-mitigates-crisis?utm_source=publication-searchNazis worked with communists: grokipedia.com/page/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_PactThe private sector's contribution to the Chinese economy is 60% of China’s GDP and 70% of innovation, 80% of urban employment and 90% of new jobs. Private wealth is also responsible for 70% of investment and 90% of exports.: weforum.org/stories/2019/05/why-chinas-state-owned-companies-still-have-a-key-role-to-playEconomic calculation is impossible under a central planner, and tacit-knowledge-gathering is practically impossible. Both result from a lack of trading (of the factors/means vs. goods, respectively).: grokipedia.com/page/Economic_calculation_problemLeftists are undesirable, Machiavellian narcissists: biopolitics.substack.com/p/the-leftist-personality-left-wingMarxism and Fascism are incredibly similar ideologies: mises.org/mises-wire/nazism-fascism-and-communism-warring-sons-common-fatherScandinavian countries aren't socialist: worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/economic-freedom-index-by-countryCapitalism is just the private ownership and free trade of the factors/means of production, which are land, labor, capital, and entrepreneurship.Communists drained the Aral Sea and created the Darvaza gas crater: grokipedia.com/page/Aral_Sea Darvaza_gas_craterNatural monopolies don't exist: youtube.com/watch?v=-391URcYL7s and youtu.be/aKUeDDAN8mY?t=5285Examples of capitalist societies: youtube.com/watch?v=gYuSF6L8iY8 and youtube.com/watch?v=b8Re6l1-qFw
>>544439357>mamdani opened government grocery stores to make food more affordableWill kill the other stores.
>still can't even do self driving correctly>same guy is going to give people semi-guided missilesThis is terribl->that could explode with the power of a 155 howitzer shell if it goes wrong and will only be driven by people with half a million dollars to spareThis is the greatest idea ever. Any accident with this will be absolutely some influencer or billionaire livestreaming themselves reverese oceangate titan-ing themselvesWe may very well live to see a billionaire explode, live
Here is how the modern economy works> Government takes out massive debt to finance social programs + Army > To backstop this debt, we need a rising GDP> To get a rising GDP, we lower interest rates> Savings is punished, and people go deep into debt to consume things they don't even need> Everyone becomes a fat slovenly cow-person and their lives are degraded tremendously through excess> Human capital is eroded, population becomes weak and diffuse> Tons of resources are wasted on consumption-goods that we don't really need> We waste immense time and effort to produce these goods we don't even need> All of this just to generate high GDP, to backstop debt>assets of the rich are inflated to ludicrous levels, we even have trillionaires, as moneyprinting inflates asset bubbles>massive wealth transfer from the poor to the rich, as the poor work in nonsense fluff-jobs that don't even produce anythingWe are basically a slave to the parasitic banking system and the welfare leeches. The middle produces, the top and bottom leech on it.
>>544463424>Question: where is the socialized part on that pic?You're alluding to the hundreds of billions in government subsidies Tesla received?
Elons latest scam just dropped.
>>544464063Touche'
can someone (You) me...i spent a few minutes on this.
this is all we need, pajeets backflipping in their teslas, killing random white girls and bystanders
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>>544466080Thanks!
>>544465762>Saar do you need expert backflip? I do expert backflip!
>>544466440a good flip crew has a hype man calling out to the people>ladies ladies where you off to so fast>flips over this way
>>544463559Te estas hirviendo, marica.
Why is Bernie sanders trying to sell me a Lada?
>>544432878Stop, stop, he's already dead
>>544432792I'm only a communist because I'm a vengeful mutant who wants to see everyone get genocided. I was supposed to die as a child, but modern medicine kept me alive. Now you're stuck with me.
