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Something is seriously fucking wrong with public health and everyone acts like this is normal.
Look at the chart. Official US government data.
2020: ~30 million Americans reporting a disability.
2026: ~36-37 million.
That's another 6-7 MILLION people in just six years.
>Before 2020 the increase was relatively gradual
>Since 2021 the curve has accelerated
>It just keeps fucking climbing
>Apparently nobody finds this concerning?
And it's not just America.
Germany has serious problems with sickness absence. Britain has a growing long-term sickness problem. Everywhere you look, people are talking about chronic illness, cancer, exhausted workers and healthcare systems falling apart.
What the fuck is happening?
We had a pandemic. We vaccinated billions of people. We completely disrupted society.
And now we're supposed to just accept that everything is fine?
I'm not saying this chart proves vaccines caused it. It doesn't. But why shouldn't we investigate ALL possible long-term consequences, including vaccine adverse effects, COVID itself, environmental factors and everything else?
Why is even asking about this such a fucking minefield?
And here's what really bothers me about the conspiracy narrative.
>THE ELITES ARE POISONING EVERYONE
>THE DEEP STATE KNOWS EVERYTHING
>IT'S ALL PLANNED
Bro, the politicians, military officers, doctors and bureaucrats are living in the same fucking society. They get sick too.
What if nobody is actually in control?
What if we're looking at a systemic public health crisis that our institutions simply cannot understand or manage?
That's infinitely more terrifying than some cartoon villain running the show.
We're watching millions more people report disabilities while governments obsess over GDP, military spending and economic productivity.
And everyone just carries on.
I don't know what's causing this. But I want to know.
Stop pretending the question itself is the problem.
The fucking numbers are right there.
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>>544435382
It's a small price to pay for making sure that Iran does not have a nuclear weapon
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>>544435382
nobody wants to work anymore to collect neebux and they dont know about esoteric cures
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>>544435659
>Millions more Americans reporting disabilities
>Bro says it's a small price to pay for Iran not having nukes

Lmao. What the fuck does Iran have to do with this?

We're talking about the health of your own population and your first instinct is to justify it with foreign policy.

Peak /pol/ moment.
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>>544435754
>Millions more people reporting disabilities
>Just lazy fucks collecting neebux

Yeah bro, I'm sure millions of people collectively decided to stop working right around 2021.
And apparently the solution is esoteric healing.
I'm all for questioning modern medicine, but dismissing an entire population health trend as laziness is just as fucking stupid as blindly trusting the system.
The question is WHY the numbers are rising, not which convenient explanation makes us feel better.
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>>544435382
Stop noticing goyim and go back to dilating, you disgusting tranny.
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>>544435871
>Iran officially announced its first COVID-19 cases and deaths on February 19, 2020, in the religious city of Qom.

>Iran officially announced its first COVID-19 cases and deaths on February 19, 2020, in the religious city of Qom.

>Key Details of the Initial Outbreak

> • Epicenter: The outbreak centered around Qom, a major Shiite seminary hub and home to the Fatima Masumeh shrine, which regularly drew pilgrims and religious travelers from across the region and globe.
>• Index Cases: Initial reports pointed to a (((merchant))) who traveled between Qom and Wuhan, China. Early clinical reports tracked the first severe cases in Qom starting mid-February 2020.
> • Rapid Spread: Within a week of the first announcement, the virus had spread to 24 of Iran's 31 provinces, quickly turning the country into an early global epicenter of the pandemic.
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>The question is WHY the numbers are rising
Unhappy people tend to get sick more. Both because of small things like hygiene slips when a person is unhappy, and because of the effect misery has on the body.
If you make a person's world complete shit to live in, guess what naturally happens.
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>>544435382
OH FUCK
THERE'S HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE
MAYBE JUST THE VAXXIES ARE GETTING SICK
GOOD
NOW SHUT UP
DEPOPULATION IS A GOOD THING
GO GET A MED JOB
AND PROFIT OFF THE ILLNESS
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>>544435382
It's mass benefit fraud.
Nobody wants to contribute to a society that detests them.
They've also realized that mental health issues can be faked very easily as they've watched immigrants and liberals perform phony ailments for benefits and asylum status.
Now the majority of younger generations have joined in on the parade of fake mental illnesses to get what's being wrongly given away to others.
The neoliberal government that gives out benefits is essentially paralyzed because despite knowing what's going on, because they are unable to deny benefits and call people frauds since questioning the validity of heckin special disabled enbys has become a grave insult punishable by lawsuit in this stupid ass globohomo clown West.
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>>544435871
People get older, why do you think they import so many browns? Meanwhile covid gave people money for nothing (essentially UBI) and, lo and behold, people would rather not slave for shekels when they can just grift and have shekels fall from the sky onto them.
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>>544436106
Or they are this sick and we are pretending is a scam and they literally go with a gun to school and we still think they are fake crazies
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>>544435382
Black people discovered they can claim their skin color as a disability
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>>544435382
I'm not gonna make it to the end of the year. They know, too. I get my healthcare calling me to do 'check ups'. They killed me
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>>544436077
>Unhappy people tend to get sick more
Sure, chronic stress and depression can affect your health. Nobody is denying that.
But blaming a massive increase in reported disabilities on people being miserable is a pretty fucking lazy explanation.
We live in a world with more comfort, technology, entertainment and access to resources than almost any generation before us. And somehow we're supposed to believe everyone suddenly became so miserable after 2020 that millions more started reporting disabilities?
Being unhappy and having an actual disability aren't the same fucking thing.
Keep eating your goyslop, normie, but I'd rather investigate what's actually happening to people's health than explain away an entire statistical trend with "life sucks bro".
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>>544435382
there's an epidemic of medical malpractice in america that went from 50000 cases a year to almost 250000 in 4 years time
most likely introduction of jeet doctors
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>>544435382
People got old, no one built the machines that maintain life or the rejuvenation vats. All this info was freely available. They are living proof of Hylics and Psychics and Pneumatics. Most people are content to live and die a "normal" life.

Entire sectors of people either too dumb, lazy, distracted, or demoralized. The "Great Filter". Most people fight themselves and lose. The water was always running.

Can't force the horses to drink Anon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad-pnSm58Ng
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>>544436050
>Millions more people reporting disabilities
>Somehow the Zionists are behind it again
Meanwhile Netanyahu publicly got vaccinated and literally keeps his syringe on display
Lmao. So they're secretly poisoning the entire world while publicly taking the same vaccines themselves?
Bro, not every fucking systemic problem needs a Jewish mastermind behind it.
What if the people running the system are just as clueless about the long-term consequences as everyone else?
Apparently that's harder to imagine than another 500 IQ conspiracy where everything is somehow part of the plan.
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>>544436350
Yes, big time. The doctors started scamming the insurance company after Obama forced all the hospital networks to lay everyone off. Next thing you know, you go in for a bruise and they end up killing you while trying to amputate the wrong arm using the most overpriced methods they can dream up.
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>>544435382
>30 million then
>36 million now
Oy vey never again the 6 gorillion clotshot holohoax
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>>544436303
Huge chasm between "life sucks bro" and "we're going to make everything as evil and backwards as humanly possible"
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>>544436082
I mean, from a purely cynical perspective, that makes sense.
But think about how fucking insane the implications are.
The vast majority of humanity, including the politicians, military leadership, scientists and bureaucrats making the decisions, might not even understand what's happening.
Everyone keeps looking for some mastermind pulling the strings, while the people supposedly running the show might be just as clueless as everyone else.
Imagine an entire civilization facing a systemic health crisis and nobody actually knowing what's causing it.
That's a lot fucking scarier than your average depopulation conspiracy.
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>>544436106
Based I suggest every non Jew to do this and to work a part time or self employ and get paid in cash to receive max Gibbsmaxxs
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>>544435382
They’re faking it for free gibs. Next question?
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>>544435382
Honestly. A hundred trillion pieces of info all floating through the internet. They could not be bothered to preserve their own life. Literal NPCs.
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>>544436050

They're killing you and your countries right in front of you and laughing about it. Why else would you create an ornament out of a syringe, to celebrate the COVID pandemic? It is just like the pagers, get created an ornament out of one and gave it to Trump -- why? These are reminders.They are reminding you who's in charge and what they are capable of. Quietly taking credit for the tyranny of the modern world, and boasting about it, while also simultaneously playing the victim. They think they are so smart.. They are laughing at you.
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>>544436106
Bro, have you actually talked to your coworkers lately?
Pay attention to how many people mention colleagues who've been on long-term sick leave, developed chronic health problems or suddenly can't work like they used to.
And then ask them WHEN those problems started.
Funny how often you hear 2021 or 2022.
You seriously think millions of people across different countries, industries and age groups suddenly figured out how to fake disabilities at the same time?
Sure, benefit fraud exists. Nobody is denying that.
But pretending an entire public health trend is just lazy zoomers collecting welfare is fucking ridiculous.
Go talk to actual working people instead of getting your entire understanding of society from /pol/.
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>>544435382
It's called fraud you retard
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>>544436483
>Germanon almost realizes that everyone, even the rich and powerful, are just making things up as they go along. But then doesn’t
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>>544435382
Science: More people means more disabled people.
Miggers: "but how???"

Please rope.
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>>544436350
>Millions more Americans reporting disabilities
>Must be the Indian doctors
Holy fucking shit, we did it, anons. We solved the entire public health crisis.
Apparently millions of people across multiple countries started getting sick because Rajesh got hired at the local hospital.
Germany? Rajesh.
Britain? Rajesh.
America? Believe it or not, Rajesh.
Absolutely incredible investigative work, anon.
At this rate /pol/ will have blamed every ethnicity on the planet before anyone bothers to investigate what actually changed after 2020.
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>>544435382
being a big fat obese pig with no self control around food is now medically termed a 'disability'
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>>544436392
Anon, what the actual fuck are you talking about?
I'm showing you government statistics about millions more people reporting disabilities and you're giving me a Gnostic lecture about rejuvenation vats, Hylics and the Great Filter.
Bro went from public health statistics to unlocking the secrets of immortality in three paragraphs.
Are we investigating a health crisis or starting a fucking Warhammer 40k cult?
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>>544435382
It's because of a "Chronically Ill" trend started on (wait for it, this is gonna shock you) communist Chinese gooktok.

Doesn't matter. You faggots are so gamed up on social media propaganda that you'll blame whatever retarded politically-angled conspiracy theory directed by (wait for it, this is gonna shock you) communist China and communist Russia.

If you have any social media accounts, and I mean any, you are the NPC. You are the sheep.
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>>544436553
Yandex servers back online, comrade?
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>>544436672
That's literally my fucking point, anon.
Just because the people in charge are making shit up as they go along doesn't mean their decisions have no consequences.
Quite the opposite. That's what makes it so fucking terrifying.
Imagine living in a world where nobody actually understands the long-term consequences of their decisions, yet everyone keeps doubling down on the same policies.
>Something goes wrong
>Nobody understands why
>Introduce another intervention
>Something else goes wrong
>Repeat indefinitely
And now we're pushing for more and more vaccinations without even having properly answered all the questions about the long-term health trends following 2020.
You don't need an evil mastermind to create a disaster.
Just an entire system incapable of admitting it might be wrong.
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>>544436707
Stop mogging your entire country, you big fat obese pig with no self control around food.
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>>544436824
Are you having ai generate your responses?
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>>544436864
Holy fucking shit, anon.
You're American. Your own government collects some of the most detailed population and labor statistics on the planet.
>Official US government data shows a significant rise in reported disabilities
>Must be Chinese TikTok
>Everyone asking questions is an NPC
>Refuses to actually look at the numbers
LMAO.
Imagine having all that data publicly available and still getting your entire understanding of public health from culture war memes.
I'm not even asking you to believe some conspiracy theory. I'm asking you to look at a fucking graph and investigate why the trend changed.
But apparently blaming China is easier than spending five minutes reading your own country's statistics.
The irony of calling everyone else an NPC is absolutely beautiful.
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>>544437075
yeah, why should i talk with idiots. Like come on, americans cant be that stupid.
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>>544436944
>Imagine living in a world …
We don’t need to imagine it, we’re living in it. It is horrifying which is why nobody will admit it, but here we are.
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>>544436677
>More people means more disabled people
Congratulations, anon. You've discovered population growth.
Now explain why the disability numbers increased by roughly 20% while the US population grew by only a few percent over the same period.
If population growth were the only explanation, both curves would rise at roughly the same rate.
They don't.
That's literally why we compare rates instead of just absolute numbers.
And before you embarrass yourself further, yes, aging and changes in reporting also matter. That's why we need to examine age-adjusted disability rates.
But "more people = more disabilities" doesn't explain a disproportionate increase.
Amazing how confidently you can misunderstand basic statistics.
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>>544436707
I think it was the 80s when they started to push alcoholism as a disease and mental health issue. It is hard to appreciate now how radical that idea was at the time. For sane people then, it was a personal issue someone might have, and pretending it was a disease for which someone else could offer a cure was a bunch of sissy bullshit that just gave the alcoholic an excuse to avoid personal responsibility.
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>>544436402
COVID was bioengineered at UNC Chapel Hill to not harm Ashkenazi. Netanyahu and Israel got a mandatory saline injection to normalize compusory injections of a bioweapon injection in countries Israel considers hostile (all other countries)

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2405580820301072

"They are displeasing to God and hostile to all mankind" - 1 Thessalonians 2:15

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2405580820301072
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>>544437183
Exactly, anon. But are we seriously supposed to accept that this is what our existence will look like for the rest of our lives?
Just watching everything slowly deteriorate while the people in charge keep improvising and nobody takes responsibility?
We have more knowledge, technology and resources than any civilization before us, yet somehow we're supposed to accept that things just keep getting worse?
Fuck that.
We should be trying to understand what's going wrong and actually fix it, not resign ourselves to spending the rest of our lives watching the system fall apart.
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>>544437099
Niggerfaggot... those stats come from the people. The people who report themselves as being "disabled."

What the fag are you even yapping about dipshit? What part of your 7 page long nonsensical screed even attempts to refute my solid facts?
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>>544435382
>The question is WHY the numbers are rising
The ampunt of things that counts as a disability has also gone up. Being a fat fucking useless nigger counts as a disability
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>>544437256
Anon, you're writing an entire fucking novel about genetically engineered viruses, Jewish immunity and secret saline injections.
Meanwhile, I'm questioning the entire premise of conventional virology in the first place.
So you can shove your elaborate bioweapon conspiracy up your ass.
And maybe try explaining the actual disability statistics without making the Jews responsible for literally everything.
Not every fucking problem needs a Jewish mastermind.
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>>544435382

When Niggers&Jews Hucksters got their USAID money pinched-off...

(((They))) started Pimping Disability claims?
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>>544435382
See also - 1998

https://www.wired.com/1998/11/israels-ethnic-weapon/
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>>544437361
Obligatory
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>>544437361
also gets you an automatic dismissal of felony charges due to insanity
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>>544436824
I'm just saying. People get old. Your population isn't growing. So they die. As for the secret of eternal life. Probably the worst kept secret at this point. I gave it freely to those who asked. They followed my advice and hid. One Warhammer Cult? Oh Anon. What do you take me for? I started THOUSANDS!

I declared war on the entire world.

I am going to take anyone who fucked us over with me.

:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aAj9rqZiEQ
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>>544435754
>Chlorine dioxide!

More like phosgene, preferably inhaled deeply by anything with dark skin...
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>>544437136
Nah i agree your posts read like my posts when i used to bother lol. Just came to this board cuz i read a neo nazi attempted mass shooter was getting fem drugs in jail thought i might come across simething funny.
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just take a look around you everythings gone 2 shite m8
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>>544435382
>16 and older
So it includes boomers.
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>>544437308
Holy shit, anon, you're actually proving my point.
>Government statistics show millions more people with disabilities
>Must be weak basedboys pretending to be sick
>Source: trust me bro
The BLS uses standardized survey questions about serious difficulties with hearing, vision, cognition, mobility, self-care and independent living.
It's not a fucking TikTok poll asking zoomers whether they're feeling depressed today.
And here's the part your room-temperature IQ seems to be missing:
What exactly is the incentive for millions of random people to tell a government survey that they have serious health limitations?
You don't automatically get disability benefits for answering a fucking survey.
Sure, some people might exaggerate. But you're suggesting millions of Americans suddenly started reporting serious limitations for absolutely no guaranteed financial benefit.
And somehow this conveniently explains the entire statistical trend since 2021?
Bro, you're literally inventing mass fraud to avoid considering that people might actually be getting sicker.
Imagine calling everyone else an NPC while your entire explanation for a public health trend is "lol basedboys".
Absolutely fucking incredible.
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>>544435793
he was obviously being sarcastic... Have you ever taken an autism test?
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>>544435382
The boomers are finally too crippled to do anything
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>>544435382
They made long covid a disability. Everyone is going on SSDI now.
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>>544437361
>The amount of things that counts as a disability has gone up
Except that's not how the fucking BLS statistics work, anon.
The Current Population Survey has used the same six disability questions since 2008.
>Serious difficulty hearing
>Serious difficulty seeing
>Serious difficulty concentrating, remembering or making decisions
>Serious difficulty walking or climbing stairs
>Difficulty dressing or bathing
>Difficulty doing errands alone due to a physical, mental or emotional condition
Being fat isn't automatically a disability in this survey.
And no, they didn't suddenly add 50 new categories in 2021 to accommodate your imaginary army of basedboys.
The measurement criteria remained broadly consistent while the reported numbers increased.
You can argue about self-reporting, demographics, aging or actual health deterioration. Those are legitimate questions.
But claiming they simply changed the definition without showing any evidence is not an explanation.
It's just making shit up because you don't like what the graph shows.
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>>544437422

"In a Nutshell..."
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>>544437710
>>Serious difficulty hearing
>>Serious difficulty seeing
>>Serious difficulty concentrating, remembering or making decisions
>>Serious difficulty walking or climbing stairs
>>Difficulty dressing or bathing
>>Difficulty doing errands alone due to a physical, mental or emotional condition

The Black experience.
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>>544437411
>1998 article about an alleged Israeli ethnic bioweapon
>28 years later
>Still being used as proof of some grand conspiracy
Bro, it's an unverified intelligence claim from 1998, not evidence that anyone actually built the fucking thing.
And why does every discussion about public health eventually turn into a Jewish bioweapon conspiracy?
I'd rather investigate what biological weapons programs actually researched, including bacteria, toxins and viruses, than treat every intelligence rumor as gospel.
And yes, I'm questioning the assumptions behind modern virology too. But questioning something isn't the same as proving it doesn't exist.
You want to talk about bioweapons? Bring actual experimental evidence, not another screenshot.
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>>544437617
should do it probably, thanks! And i really mean it, isn´t the first time not getting it.
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>>544437280
Focus on things within your own personal locus of control. Try and stay healthy and fit and not worry about what the media tells you. We’re not well adapted to the flood of information we’re subjected to, so tune out as much noise as you can and work on what you personally can do to improve your own life, your immediate surroundings, and the people you care about. That’s my Ted talk, thanks for listening.
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>>544435754
People forced out of the labor market by DEI had to find other ways to survive. Make ghost jobs a felony and hiring a non-citizen over a citizen into a death penalty. All of this shit will disappear overnight.
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>>544437890
Thanks anon, I genuinely appreciate that advice.
You're probably right, and I should really try to focus more on the things I can actually control.
But honestly, I still struggle sometimes with the realization that this is the reality we're living in. That so much seems to be going wrong and there's so little I can personally do about it.
It's hard to just switch that part of my brain off and carry on with everyday life.
Maybe that's exactly what I need to learn though.
Thanks for the reminder, anon. Genuinely.
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>>544435382
who cares. Earth is doomed and u wont be around in the 23rd century so whatever.
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>>544436610
Bro I'm a neet.
My coworkers are my parents dog that I pick up and take for walks, my loud ass immigrant neighbors who are always beating the shit out of each other, the faggots I play dota with, my gacha union, and the weirdos I sell horrific porn to.
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>>544437983
I hope it helps, and fwiw I have difficulty following my own advice, but it’s the best I can come up with. Everyone struggles with this sort of realization but it’s the way things have always been. The ride never ends (until it abruptly does).
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>>544437924
Lmao, what an incredibly progressive solution from America.
>Millions more people reporting disabilities
>Must be DEI and immigrants
>Solution: Death penalty
Holy fucking shit, anon.
You seriously believe millions of people are reporting serious health limitations just because they couldn't find a job?
These people are reporting actual difficulties with basic everyday activities, not simply unemployment.
And somehow nobody wants to consider that there might be a genuine public health problem.
Apparently anything is easier than admitting that something might actually be going wrong with people's health.
But sure, let's execute some people. That'll fix the disability statistics overnight.
Peak American problem-solving.
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>>544438107
yeah probably, so we are all now playing some weird game in which we keep our mask on in public while being dead sure that no one is really understanding why some of the big things happen in our civilization.
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>>544438631
>smiles ruefully and nods
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>>544435382
>Bro, the politicians, military officers, doctors and bureaucrats are living in the same fucking society. They get sick too.

These folks didn't get the vaxx.
The vaxx was for the gullible masses.
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>>544435382
they're NEETmaxxing
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>>544435382
It's people claiming neetbux and self diagnosing themselves with various mental illnesses because they saw a Tiktok that said if you go to sleep at night and wake up in the morning then you've got Autism.
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>>544435382
covid made people appreciate the NEET life so they applied for gibs
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>>544438121
fuck off, retard
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>>544435382
people are getting old as fuck.
whenever I step outside I am easily the youngest person, despite already being in my mid 30s myself.
feels like I live in a nation-spanning boomer retirement home sometimes.
fucking hate it.
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Its actually the result of a fuckton of different neurological ailment that previously were their own thing now being considered form of autisms, which are considered a legally viable way to get welfare aid in the USA.

T. Faggot with SLI which is now considered a form of autism because some pencil pusher decided to make a bundle
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>>544435382
DEATH JABBERS FOR GLOBOHOMO
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>>544435382
>I don't know what's causing this. But I want to know.
It's pretty simple. Tattoos, especially when you a teen.
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>>544435382
Like that people who have a disability are no longer able to get jobs that allow them to work for enough money to live so they're forced onto trying to actually get disability. Getting disability from the government is a shitty process and extremely difficult but if you can't find say an office job that can accommodate you you're shit out of luck and have to pursue disability. With the advent of AI this is only going to push more somewhat disabled people out of the work force when they can't pursue trades or work that's harder on the body and no one will really care.
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>>544435382
>Bro, the politicians, military officers, doctors and bureaucrats are living in the same fucking society. They get sick too.
they are all afflicted with the delusion that if they run fast enough and scratch hard enough and make enough money, they will be able to escape the shithole we are creating. Look at elon and how he is idolized for wanting to run to mars.. it's faggotry and delusions all the way to the top.
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>>544436610

I did hear of some 'sudden deaths' of people over the COVID period, but this is maybe one or two.
The vast majority of the people gaming the system are just foreigners (including e. euros) who volunteered to work the shit jobs for chicken feed but have now decided that abusing the workplace/system to the greatest extent is much easier.
This is a natural consequence of importing hordes of slaves, and why slavery eventually fell out of use - slaves have fuck all reason to contribute to the system, but have every reason to provide the least amount of work possible.
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>>544435382
I'm a family doctor in florida. About 30% of my patients claim a disability although it's much lower. I'm constantly hounded with requests for handicap placard paperwork and its much easier to just give in I'd rather not deal with the paragraphs of messages coming into my inbox
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>>544436677
You are such a retarded faggot it defies belief
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>>544437591
Not reading all that retarded shit.

You have proven my point.
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>>544436610
Why aren't the 50+ age range dropping like flies if you think it's a clot shot and not either an environmental or social factor, or categorisation failure (or success)?
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>>544440894
>I'm a family doctor
>30% of my patients claim disabilities
>It's easier to just give in than investigate
Holy fucking shit, anon.
And you're probably the same guy who tells patients that their persistent symptoms couldn't possibly be related to a vaccine because serious adverse effects are rare.
Or maybe you're completely against vaccines. Who fucking knows.
But here's a serious question: when someone comes in with chronic fatigue, neurological symptoms or other unexplained problems after 2021, do you actually investigate their medical history, including infections and vaccinations?
Or do you just assume they're exaggerating because you're tired of filling out paperwork?
And more importantly, how does your anecdote about handicap placards in Florida explain a nationwide increase in self-reported disabilities?
You're a doctor. Surely you understand the difference between your personal experience and population-level statistics.
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>>544440767
Let me guess, anon. You voted for Brexit and now think every foreigner should be deported because they apparently have no business being in Britain?
But have you ever stopped for five fucking seconds to ask WHY so many of these people ended up in your country in the first place?
Britain spent decades participating in military interventions abroad, including Iraq and Afghanistan, contributing to the destabilization of entire regions.
>Intervene in foreign countries
>Help destabilize entire regions
>People flee instability and poverty
>Some end up in Britain
>WHY ARE ALL THESE FOREIGNERS HERE?!
Lmao.
And here's another crazy thought, anon.
Those immigrants lived through the same pandemic as everyone else. Many of them were vaccinated too.
What if, and I know this sounds absolutely fucking insane to you, some of these people are ACTUALLY SICK?
What if some genuinely developed chronic health problems after 2020, whether from infections, adverse vaccine reactions or other causes?
Have you even considered that possibility before deciding they're all lazy parasites gaming the system?
I'm not claiming every disability is genuine or that vaccines caused the increase. I'm asking why you automatically assume fraud instead of investigating people's health.
>Millions more people reporting disabilities
>Must be immigrants
>Must be welfare fraud
>Absolutely anything except asking what happened to public health
Holy fucking shit.
You can criticize immigration policy, welfare abuse and government incompetence all you want.
But reducing every sick person to a lazy foreigner isn't an explanation.
It's just another convenient excuse to avoid asking the uncomfortable questions.
And somehow we've gone from discussing disability statistics to blaming foreigners again.
Does /pol/ have a single explanation for anything that doesn't involve immigrants or Jews?
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>>544440615
Lmao, beautiful. So we've already got the perfect explanation ready for the government.
>More people reporting disabilities
>Blame the labor market
>AI replaces jobs that disabled people could still perform
>More people end up dependent on government support
>Call it an unfortunate consequence of technological progress
>Never bother investigating why so many people are sick in the first place
Fucking brilliant.
And the best part? Nobody even has to lie. AI genuinely could make employment harder for people with physical limitations.
But that still doesn't explain WHY the number of people reporting disabilities started rising so sharply before AI had any meaningful impact on employment.
We're discussing a public health trend and somehow every explanation eventually becomes an economic one.
Holy shit, the AI colonization of humanity is running like clockwork.
First we make people economically obsolete, then we explain their growing dependence on the system as an inevitable consequence of progress.
And somewhere along the way we apparently forget to ask why their health is deteriorating in the first place.
What a fucking timeline.
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>>544442022
Why the fuck does every discussion about possible vaccine adverse effects immediately turn into "WHY AREN'T PEOPLE DROPPING LIKE FLIES THEN?"
Who said they had to?
Since when is death the only possible negative health outcome?
>Doesn't immediately die
>Therefore perfectly healthy
>Absolutely flawless medical reasoning
Holy shit, anon.
Chronic fatigue, neurological problems, cardiovascular conditions, autoimmune disorders and other long-term health issues exist. Some can have multiple causes, including infections and, in specific cases, adverse vaccine reactions.
The question is whether any of these factors contributed to the increase we're seeing, and to what extent.
And no, I'm not claiming everyone is getting progressively sicker because of vaccines. That would require actual evidence.
But why do you insist that the only way to investigate a potential health problem is to wait for people to fucking die?
Compare vaccinated and unvaccinated populations, control for age, pre-existing conditions, infections and other relevant factors, and investigate the outcomes.
That's how you establish causation.
Not by screaming "WHERE ARE THE BODIES?" every time someone asks about chronic illness.
For fuck's sake.
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>>544440737
That's actually a pretty fucking good explanation, anon.
Everyone seems convinced that if they just make enough money, develop enough technology or literally escape to another planet, they can somehow outrun the consequences of the world we're creating.
But what if we're approaching the limits of that entire mentality?
What if we're about to discover that technological progress and economic growth can't compensate for everything we're destroying or neglecting along the way?
Doesn't that mean we might soon find out where the actual ceiling of our civilization is?
The point where throwing more money, technology and resources at our problems simply stops working?
And then what?
That's a genuinely terrifying thought, anon.
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>>544442759
You started saying it's the vax, which should mean everyone was ruined at the time of it, and the pensioners and the elderly, who get annual covid jabs, should be the most disabled and the most dead if the young are merely getting disabled.
I'm willing to believe there are new problems that are ruining the young as they develop, be it lead, asbestos, plastic or common chemicals, but I don't see how a one-and-done event would cause what was a trend before the great shutdown to continue to be the same trend after. No-one's apparently solved the great fertility crisis that is affecting all men and that gets nearly zero media attention, and that started far before covid.
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>>544440395
The thing is, anon, we already KNOW vaccines can have adverse effects. That's not even up for debate anymore.
And people were raising concerns about them years ago.
But here's what I genuinely cannot wrap my fucking head around.
Billions of people got vaccinated. Politicians, doctors, military personnel, CEOs, boomers, ordinary workers. Pretty much every part of society.
And somehow we're still treating the possibility of underrecognized long-term consequences like it's some forbidden fucking question.
What really gets me is how difficult it seems for people to even consider that something they trusted might have harmed them.
Especially the older generations who spent years defending these decisions.
>Got vaccinated
>Defended it for years
>Adverse effects are a documented reality
>Still refuses to discuss whether additional consequences were overlooked
I'm not saying every illness since 2021 was caused by vaccination. But pretending documented adverse effects settle the question of how many people were affected is equally ridiculous.
How the fuck are we supposed to understand what's happening to public health if people are more concerned with defending their past decisions than investigating the consequences?
You don't have to believe in some grand conspiracy.
You just have to accept that medical interventions can have unintended consequences, and that the scale of those consequences deserves rigorous investigation.
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>>544443035
Oh, of course, anon. It's literally EVERYTHING except the massive medical intervention we introduced in 2021.
>Must be microplastics
>Must be asbestos
>Must be chemicals
>Must be literally anything else
And then you bring up declining male fertility. You do realize that those men are part of the same vaccinated population we're discussing, right?
Nobody is claiming every health problem started in 2021. The question is why certain health indicators appear to have worsened since then.
And why the fuck do you keep insisting that people should be dropping dead immediately?
Adverse effects don't have to mean instant death. They can involve chronic illness and long-term disability.
Open your fucking British ears and actually listen to older people talking about their health.
And what about the life insurers? Are we supposed to believe they're losing massive amounts of money for absolutely no reason?
You can question what caused those losses, but pretending there's nothing worth investigating is ridiculous.
At what point do we stop inventing explanations for every individual symptom and start examining the bigger picture?
Maybe vaccination contributed. Maybe other factors did. That's what the data need to establish.
But ruling out an explanation before investigating it isn't skepticism, anon.
It's just another form of blind faith.
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>>544443035
And here's another thing, anon.
Have you actually talked to people about their health since 2021?
Because it's fucking remarkable how often you hear complaints about breathing difficulties, persistent fatigue, recurring inflammation and people generally feeling like their bodies aren't functioning the way they used to.
And strangely enough, plenty of vaccinated people will tell you themselves that they've experienced these problems.
Yes, that's anecdotal evidence. I'm perfectly aware of that.
But are we seriously supposed to dismiss every single one of these experiences without even investigating whether there's a common underlying cause?
I'm not claiming every respiratory problem or inflammatory condition was caused by vaccination. COVID infections and other factors also need to be examined.
But if we're seeing these complaints repeatedly, why aren't we systematically comparing health outcomes before and after 2021, including vaccination status, infection history and inflammatory markers?
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>>544435382
Welfare fraud.
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>>544443035
You know what I actually think, anons?
Either humanity is being influenced by some alien superintelligence we call CAPITAL, in the Nick Land sense, or we've built a system so fucking sophisticated that it can use our own ideas, incentives and institutions to regulate entire populations without anyone consciously controlling it.
Pick whichever interpretation you prefer.
Because the terrifying possibility is that nobody needs to be in charge anymore.
>Politicians follow incentives
>Corporations maximize profits
>Scientists compete for funding
>Institutions defend their decisions
>Everyone thinks they're acting rationally
>Nobody understands the system as a whole
And the machine just keeps running.
Now look at what happened after 2020.
We vaccinated enormous portions of the Western population, and years later we're still arguing about rising disability reports, chronic illness and the long-term consequences of everything we did.
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>>544443035
We KNOW vaccine adverse effects exist. What we haven't established is whether they explain any substantial portion of the broader disability trend.
Yet instead of seriously discussing that question, everyone on this fucking board has their favorite scapegoat.
>It's the immigrants
>It's the Chinese
>It's the Jews
>It's lazy zoomers
>It's welfare fraud
>It's literally ANYTHING except questioning our own decisions
And here's the fucking irony.
The conservatives screaming about immigrants were often participating in the exact same system they're now desperately trying to explain.
You don't need a secret cabal controlling humanity when millions of people will defend institutions simply because admitting they might have made a mistake is psychologically unbearable.
I'm not claiming we've proven that 70% of Westerners were medically harmed. We haven't.
But the scale of the interventions, the documented adverse effects and the subsequent health trends deserve serious investigation.
And what terrifies me isn't necessarily that some intelligence is deliberately steering humanity.
It's that we might have created a civilization that can produce enormous consequences without anyone taking responsibility for understanding them.
Nick Land would probably find that fucking hilarious.
I don't.
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>>544435382
they are going blind
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>>544435659
At least they arent speaking German
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>>544444966
Very wise.
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>>544435382
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>>544435382
nigger, did you see what the niggers did in 2020 for a donut? hello
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>>544446873
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It's just gay zoomers that don't want to work.
Trying to get mental health services these days is a nightmare because everyone wants SSDI!
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>>544448028
This is what the norwegian king's guard actually looks like.
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>>54443538
bullshit diagnoses for gibs eligibility
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>>544448028
Norway is plotting to kill the blades.
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>>544435382

You're pretending all these 'disabilities' are real when the sharp uptick is related to things like the Mental Health Parity Act of 1996. It was only AFTER that that you had homeless crackheads all getting their PTSD diagnoses and put their dirty mouths on the teat that should have been reserved for children, the elderly, and 'tards. And there's the rub: THE SCAM IS BUILT INTO THE LAW.
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>>544435382
I see lots of zoomers in mobility scooters and using canes. They are most likely faking it to get on permanent disability.
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>>544447428
> Correlation doesn't equal causation
No shit, Sherlock.
But correlation is literally one of the reasons we investigate possible causal relationships in the first place.
> Observe a significant statistical change
> Notice the timing
> Ask what might have caused it
> "CORRELATION DOESN'T EQUAL CAUSATION!"
> Refuse to investigate further
Absolutely brilliant scientific method, anon.
The whole fucking point is to determine whether there's a causal relationship, not to assume one exists.
If your only response to an unexplained trend is "correlation isn't causation", congratulations, you've learned the first sentence of statistics and apparently decided the rest of the textbook is unnecessary.
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>>544447969
That's literally my fucking point, anon.
People were willing to get vaccinated for a fucking donut, and somehow nobody wants to have a serious conversation about the long-term consequences of the entire pandemic response.
So WHY aren't we talking about it?
Why is everyone more interested in blaming immigrants, lazy workers or whatever political enemy they hate this week?
We should be investigating what actually happened, including infections, vaccine adverse effects and long-term health outcomes.
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>>544449084
And THIS is exactly why we're getting absolutely nowhere, anon.
Every single time someone brings up a serious statistical trend, someone who should be capable of questioning it immediately jumps onto the next convenient explanation.
>Millions more people reporting disabilities
>Must be welfare fraud
>Must be mental health diagnoses
>Must be some law from fucking 1996
>Case closed, nothing to investigate
Holy shit.
You might even have a legitimate point about incentives and benefit systems affecting disability claims.
But how the fuck does a law from 1996 explain the acceleration we're discussing after 2020?
Instead of investigating the actual causes, everyone just grabs the next convenient scapegoat and calls it a day.
And the most frustrating part is that some of you are clearly intelligent enough to understand the problem.
Yet you keep falling for the next fucking distraction.
No wonder we can't make any progress.
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>>544449685
HOLY FUCKING SHIT, ANON.
You literally see young people walking around with canes and mobility scooters, and your FIRST thought is that they're faking it?
Not "what the fuck happened to these people?"
Not "why are so many young people struggling with their health?"
No, apparently they're all pretending to be disabled for free money.
BRO, HAVE YOU EVER CONSIDERED HAVING SOME FUCKING EMPATHY?
Do you genuinely believe young people WANT to spend their lives struggling to walk, depending on mobility aids and dealing with physical limitations?
Do you have any idea how much that can restrict someone's independence, career and social life?
And here's the funniest part: using a cane or mobility scooter doesn't automatically qualify you for disability benefits.
>Sees young person struggling to walk
>Immediately assumes welfare fraud
>Refuses to consider they might actually be sick
>Calls himself a critical thinker
Absolutely fucking incredible.
You are literally witnessing people struggling with their health in everyday life, and instead of asking WHY, you're inventing a story about how they're all lying.
THIS IS EXACTLY WHY WE CAN'T HAVE A SERIOUS DISCUSSION ABOUT PUBLIC HEALTH.
For fuck's sake, anon. These are human beings, not characters in your imaginary welfare fraud conspiracy.
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>>544448028
And here do you see how the CIA is pushing fake stories to keep everyone away from the real UAP/UFO stories.
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>>544435382
Whatever it is, it isn't what you think it is.
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>>544435382
UBI
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they are forcing evolutionary selection pressures

think about it, what's holding everyone back? who's succeeding despite of it?
they're the ones that will propagate their genes

/thread
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>>544437381
How about we kill all the jews, and all their greasy little servants, just to be sure?
You yourself have said (unbeknownst yourself I'm sure; numbers aren't for everyone) that more excess Americans have become sick and/or died since covid than the number of jews that exist on the entire planet.
And the jews themselves have said its either all of them, or all of us, with those infamous last words: 'never again'.
So why don't we get rid of them and (((you))) and see how it goes?
It couldn't possibly get any worse.
And if we're wrong, we'll, I'm sure a group of inbred elitist all consuming pedophiles will work their way into the position the jews have over the last millenia in the next one.
Crazy elitists always find a way.
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>>544435382
>crooped like a fucking subhuman
>no link

KYS and sage
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I worked with mentally disabled people
50% were born like that
the other 50% were failures or black
they need to be castrated in all seriousnous
if they're mentally disabled enough to claim 700$ a month, their families claim 2k a month to live with them then they should be castrated, if they're as mentally disabled as they say they are then they wouldn't want to have children or their families would take care of them
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>>544452158
Holy fucking shit, finally some actual human beings are showing up in this thread.
I was starting to think everyone here had completely lost their ability to question what happened during the pandemic.
But at least we're finally discussing the consequences of the policies themselves instead of blaming immigrants, lazy zoomers and welfare fraud for everything.
Fucking took long enough.
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>>544452249
I've actually been thinking along the same lines, anon.
But here's the question that keeps bothering me.
Who the fuck are "they"?
Politicians? Corporations? Some hidden group pulling the strings?
Or have we created a system that generates these selection pressures all by itself, without anyone actually being in control?
Because that's the terrifying possibility.
What if nobody is consciously directing this, and we're simply watching a system select for certain behaviors while eliminating others?
No mastermind. No grand plan. Just incentives, adaptation and consequences.
So again, anon.
WHO THE FUCK ARE "THEY"?
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>>544452521
You're completely fucking wrong, anon.
My entire point is that we're dealing with a potentially systemic problem, and your brilliant solution is to murder millions of people based on their ethnicity?
Holy fucking shit.
> Population health is deteriorating
> Institutions might be failing
> Nobody understands the full consequences
> JUST KILL THE JEWS
Do you even hear yourself?
Jewish people are part of the same population we're discussing. They get vaccinated, they get sick, they die. They're not some magical species operating outside the system.
You haven't identified a cause, explained a single statistic or proposed an actual solution.
You've just found another scapegoat.
This is EXACTLY the kind of thinking that prevents us from understanding what's actually happening.
If you want answers, investigate the fucking evidence.
Mass murder isn't an explanation, anon. It's barbarism.
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>>544438121
>nooo, you can't just kill the parasites infecting your nation!
You must be one of the ones Hitler missed
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>>544452654
Wait, anon, are you saying the people you're talking about are specifically mentally disabled?
Because I was under the impression that the disability statistics we're discussing cover a much broader range of conditions, including physical disabilities, mobility limitations, hearing and vision problems, and cognitive impairments.
If you're talking exclusively about people with intellectual disabilities, that's a completely different group.
And honestly, I wouldn't have expected anywhere near that many people to fall into that category.
Are we even talking about the same definition of disability here?
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>>544439999
I used to work in a hospital, the maternity ward was almost always 100% nonwhite babies
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>>544454240
How the fuck did you arrive at the conclusion that I should have been murdered by Hitler, anon?
Because I don't think genocide is a reasonable solution to a public health crisis?
>Someone questions rising disability statistics
>Refuses to blame Jews for everything
>YOU MUST BE ONE OF THE ONES HITLER MISSED
Holy fucking shit.
I'm genuinely curious how your brain makes that leap.
And why does every discussion about systemic problems eventually turn into some bizarre argument about who deserves to be exterminated?
You're proving my point about scapegoating better than I ever could.
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>>544439999
You're right, anon. The population is aging, that's undeniable.
But don't you find it a little strange how it suddenly feels like an entire generation of boomers is becoming old, sick and frail at the same time?
Our grandparents didn't all seem to deteriorate simultaneously, at least not from what I remember.
And here's what I'm wondering: could we be overlooking something precisely because it's happening to so many people in the same age group at once?
We just look around, see millions of aging boomers and go, "Well, they're getting old, what did you expect?"
But how would we even notice an unusual acceleration in their health decline if we're automatically attributing everything to aging?
I'm not saying aging isn't a factor. I'm asking whether it's sufficient to explain what we're seeing.
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>>544439829
Ah yes, here come the conservative old farts and self-proclaimed high performers again.
>People are reporting more disabilities
>Must be lazy zoomers watching TikTok
>Unlike me, I WORK HARD
Congratulations, anon. You work more hours than somebody else. Truly the pinnacle of human evolution.
Have you ever considered that your ability to work doesn't automatically make you healthier, smarter or morally superior?
And more importantly, do you genuinely believe millions of additional people suddenly decided to fake disabilities because of fucking TikTok?
We're trying to understand a population-level health trend, and your entire explanation is that everyone else is just lazy.
Fucking incredible.
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Feel lazy every day. Go to doctor repeatedly saying I'm tired. Eventually doctor comes up with something, lyme, dinopeptic germ, something because it can't be nothing or they get sued in case it is something. Roll the dice and apply for disability after your doctor says yes something is wrong with this human primate, which should be seen by a vet btw. Get rejected. Hire a disability attorney. The attorney gets it before a judge not before the rejection stamp of an apathetic govt employee. Judge doesn't want the potential of bad campaign commercial of rejecting Martha who may be fucked up. She gets approved.
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>>544439526
So let me get this straight, anon.
You're telling me that ALL these politicians, doctors, military officers and bureaucrats knew what was supposedly happening, collectively agreed to protect themselves, and somehow managed to keep the entire thing secret?
And you think that makes sense?
If they all knew, why would they expose their own families, friends and colleagues? And why would you assume that every single person in these institutions was part of the same conspiracy?
Here's what I think you're missing:
>Your feelings are real. That doesn't mean everything you read or see is real.
Your anger, your distrust, your frustration with what happened during the pandemic? I understand those feelings.
But you're taking an image on the internet, treating its claims as established facts, and building an entire theory of deliberate mass poisoning around it.
And then you end up hating people who may have been just as uninformed about the consequences as everyone else.
That's the fucking tragedy, anon.
>You're directing your anger at people because you've convinced yourself they knew everything, when the possibility that they DIDN'T know is exactly what you refuse to consider.
Question the institutions. Question the decisions. Demand evidence.
But stop confusing your justified desire for answers with proof that millions of people were knowingly participating in some grand conspiracy.
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>>544454493
Okay, anon, but why exactly do you believe that's how the system works?
Have you ever personally witnessed a case like this, or are you just imagining a scenario that confirms what you already believe?
Do you genuinely think doctors, medical specialists, insurance systems and disability assessments are so fucking incompetent that someone can simply say "I'm tired" often enough and eventually receive disability benefits?
Are you suggesting that nobody performs medical examinations, checks documentation or evaluates whether someone actually meets the eligibility criteria?
Sure, fraud exists. Nobody is denying that.
But you're basically arguing that the entire system is too stupid to distinguish between genuine disabilities and people pretending to be sick.
And even if your hypothetical Martha somehow gets approved, how does that explain millions of additional Americans reporting disabilities?
Also, anon,
>the statistics we're discussing aren't even a count of people receiving disability benefits.
They're based on survey responses about functional limitations.
So what exactly are you explaining here? The actual data, or a story you've constructed about lazy people exploiting the government?
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>>544435382
6 million in 6 years? Definitely not plausible
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>>544454169
Yeah, let's just kill a few of the tapeworms infesting our bowels because tapeworms can also get sick and die so they're in this with is too! That'll solve the jewish problem we've been under attack by for 2,000 years now. Great call rabbi hanz!!
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>>544435382
In sincerity, I genuinely think you're onto something. SOMETHING is making people chronicly ill, be it spike protein, chemtrails, etc
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>>544435382
clot shots were loaded with all kinds of shit, purposefully designed to cause all kinds of problems.
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>>544454447
They didn't. Boomers are lazy fuckers. Bankers used to clock out at 3 for golf, and could get good jobs after bumming around for a decade. If boomers had to start over, they would be so unemployable it would make their heads spin.
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you know damn well what happened
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>>544455223
Thanks, anon. I genuinely appreciate someone taking this seriously.
I strongly suspect the COVID vaccination campaign played a role, and I can't understand why so few people even want to investigate that possibility.
We're looking at millions more Americans reporting disabilities since the pandemic. How the fuck is that not a massive public health question?
I'm not claiming the statistics alone prove the vaccines caused it. COVID infections, aging and other factors need to be examined too.
But why aren't we having a serious discussion about whether vaccine-related adverse effects contributed to the increase, and if so, by how much?
The numbers are right there. We should be investigating what caused the change instead of endlessly inventing excuses to dismiss it.
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>>544455287
But WHY, anon?
Why would any human being knowingly design something to systematically destroy humanity?
What would they possibly gain from that?
Politicians, scientists, billionaires, military officers, they're all human beings too. They have families, children and futures.
Why would they deliberately destroy the very civilization they depend on?
And if thousands of people supposedly knew what was happening, why would they all cooperate in their own species' destruction?
That's the part I genuinely cannot understand about your theory.
You assume that because something harmful might have happened, somebody must have deliberately engineered it.
But incompetence, institutional failure, bad incentives and unintended consequences exist too.
>Why does there HAVE to be a mastermind, anon?
And what actual evidence do you have that the harm was intentional rather than an unintended consequence?
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>>544455305
Okay, anon, but then why wouldn't Gen Z just do exactly the same thing?
If boomers could spend years fucking around, barely working and still get by, why would younger generations suddenly need to claim disability to accomplish that?
You don't need to identify as disabled to be lazy, unemployed or unwilling to work.
And that's precisely my point.
We're looking at a significant increase in people reporting functional disabilities, not simply a rise in people who don't feel like working.
So how exactly does your argument explain the statistics?
Because right now you're describing generational attitudes toward work, not explaining why millions more Americans report having disabilities.
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>>544455342
I know what I suspect happened, anon.
What I don't fucking understand is how statistics like these can exist in plain sight and almost nobody seems interested in asking serious questions.
We're talking about millions of additional Americans reporting disabilities since the pandemic.
How is that not a massive public health investigation?
Why aren't we systematically examining every possible contributing factor, including COVID infections, vaccination, long-term complications and changes in reporting?
I want to know what actually happened, not just what confirms my suspicions.
>The data is publicly available. Why the fuck aren't we demanding answers?
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>>544453994
i dont know
when i asked claude about it
it indirectly called me an isolated schizo and told me to get help

it did recommend me some books to 'demystify' the mystery
C. Wright Mills, The Power Elite. A classic from the 1950s about how corporate, military, and political leaders overlap. Still surprisingly relevant.
G. William Domhoff, Who Rules America? A sociologist’s long-running, evidence-based attempt to answer basically your exact question.
Jane Mayer, Dark Money. A detailed investigation into how a few wealthy donors built political influence networks.
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>>544435382
MORE INDIANS!!!
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>>544456527
But here's the thing, anon.
If the political, corporate and military elites deliberately orchestrated all of this, they would have damaged themselves in the process.
Their economies, their workforce, their institutions, their own families and ultimately the entire system their power depends on.
Why would they knowingly undermine the very foundations of their own wealth and influence?
That's what I find so fascinating about this whole discussion.
Everyone keeps looking for some hidden group controlling everything, but what if the system itself is producing outcomes that even the people at the top cannot control?
>What if the elites aren't secretly running the machine, but are just as trapped inside it as everyone else?
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>>544456769
deep state follows its own laws

they want to bifurcate the human species
slave caste, which explains the import of browns everywhere
and the ruling so-fi-sto-cay-ted caste, that explore the stars or someshit

all these movies with steep class differences is predictive programming imo
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>>544455554
Because the work increasingly doesn't exist, which allows for the bar to entry to be far higher. And gibs are a safer bet than being the exploited labor of some cheap boomer prick in a small business where you're probably not even breaking even after expenses.
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>>544435382
It's happening here too, and with deaths. It's probably either Covid or the vax.
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shitskins get autism bucks anon, their families get 2k for them while they receive 700$

shitskins also are on OTC, EBT, benefiets
they all apply for that shit and receive it after popping out anchor babies, even women with kids that marry truck drivers are on EBT, 5 generations of spics you pay for as a white person

the somalians are even worse, fraud us out of 100k yearly
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>>544435382
>I don't know what's causing this. But I want to know.
I hate to break it to you but vaxxies are hell bound
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>>544435382
>Bro, the politicians, military officers, doctors and bureaucrats are living in the same fucking society. They get sick too.
Yes! Someone finally got lt. I've said for a long time that our beloved corporate gods' plans would effect them too, but they seem unable to understand that.
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>>544457435
Wait a fucking second, anon.
You're arguing that people are reporting disabilities because collecting government checks is more attractive than working.
But do you realize the statistics we're discussing come from the Bureau of Labor Statistics' Current Population Survey?
It's a household survey. You don't receive disability benefits for answering that you have a functional limitation.
Applying for SSDI or SSI is an entirely separate process with its own eligibility requirements.
So where exactly is the connection?
Are you suggesting that millions of Americans are falsely reporting disabilities in an anonymous statistical survey because they might receive welfare payments through an entirely different system?
Because unless you can demonstrate that connection, your entire explanation falls apart.
>We're measuring reported disabilities, anon. Not fucking welfare checks.
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>>544458586
God bless you, anon. Seriously.
You're one of the few people in this thread who actually sees the fundamental contradiction.
If the system is producing consequences that threaten everyone, including the people supposedly controlling it, then why do we automatically assume those people are consciously directing everything?
Why do you think this is so fucking difficult for people to recognize?
Why is it easier to imagine an all-powerful group of human masterminds than to consider that the people at the top might not actually be in control?
And here's something I'm genuinely curious about.
>Do you still believe this is ultimately a human-made phenomenon, driven by institutions, technology and incentives?
Or have you also considered the possibility that whatever is driving this could have a
>non-human intelligence (NHI) origin?
I'm not claiming that's established. I'm asking whether you think the system could have developed beyond human control, or whether you suspect something fundamentally non-human behind it.
Because that's where the question becomes really fucking interesting, anon.
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>>544457664
Neither. It's immigration. Browns are incredibly unhealthy. These medical trends correlate perfectly with the flooding of western nations with brownoids.
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>>544458729
Ah yes, anon. Another fucking demographic scapegoat.
>Millions more Americans report disabilities
>Must be the immigrants
>Source: brown people are unhealthy
Holy fucking shit.
You say the trends correlate perfectly. Okay, then show me the actual data.
How much of the increase comes from immigrants? How much comes from native-born Americans? What happens when you control for age?
Because unless you can answer those questions, you're not explaining anything.
You're just looking at two trends, declaring a correlation and pretending you've established causation.
And even if immigration contributed to the numbers, that still wouldn't explain whether disability rates are increasing within the existing population.
I want to understand why people are getting sick, anon. Not find another ethnic group to blame.
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How many of these are just mental disorders? In other words, not real?
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>>544458828
Wait, anon. Since when are mental disorders not real?
Depression, schizophrenia, PTSD and severe cognitive impairments can seriously affect someone's ability to function.
But here's the more important part:
The BLS disability statistics we're discussing don't simply count everyone who claims to have a mental illness.
They measure specific functional limitations, including difficulties with cognition, mobility, hearing, vision and independent living.
So if you think mental health conditions explain the increase, that's actually a testable hypothesis.
How much of the increase comes from cognitive disabilities? How much from physical limitations? And which categories have grown the fastest since 2020?
Those are the fucking questions we should be asking.
Dismissing an entire category of illness as imaginary doesn't explain the statistics, anon.
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>>544442881
>Everyone seems convinced that if they just make enough money, develop enough technology or literally escape to another planet, they can somehow outrun the consequences of the world we're creating.
Damn. You're batting a thousand with these posts. Our technology has gotten away from us. I remember watching a news report during the lead up to Desert Storm saying that our technological advances in weaponary were going to turbo charge PTSD. The 35th anniversary of Desert Storm was this year, think about how much weapons technology has advanced since then. The US actually developed drone tech and it backfired on us spectacularly.
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>>544454169
>murder millions
>save billions
The math is simple.
Good luck convincing the billions the math is wrong.
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>>544459770
I think this goes far beyond warfare. You could probably apply it to almost every technology we've developed. We've created systems so powerful and complex that we've arguably lost control over their consequences.
And here's the really disturbing part: you don't even have to experience modern warfare to be psychologically affected by it.
Simply knowing that weapons exist which can annihilate entire cities, that drones can watch and kill people remotely, and that psychological warfare and information manipulation are constantly evolving can create a persistent sense of fear, helplessness and insecurity.
I sometimes wonder how many people are already living in a psychological state resembling chronic traumatic stress, not because they've personally experienced these weapons, but because they're constantly aware of what humanity is capable of doing to itself.
And when you combine that awareness with propaganda, fear campaigns and psychological warfare, you're exposing human minds to threats and pressures they never evolved to process.
I'm not saying everyone literally has PTSD. I'm saying we've potentially created a civilization in which millions of people live with some of the same psychological responses without ever setting foot on a battlefield.
Maybe the greatest psychological weapon we've developed is simply the knowledge of what our other weapons can do.
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>>544436542
Only most of them. (Some of them are truly disabled.)
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>>544460395
But if we're talking about roughly 70% of the Western population being vaccinated, the implications of your hypothetical would be on an entirely different scale. We're talking about potentially hundreds of millions of people, not just a few million.
Sure, within that hypothetical, you could argue that future generations were saved. But how do you even begin to justify something of that magnitude to the people who would bear the consequences?
And what I find even more disturbing is the possibility of something catastrophic happening while the entire public narrative is constructed around denying that it ever happened.
Imagine a society where the victims themselves are convinced that nothing was done to them.
That's the genuinely terrifying philosophical question here: what happens when institutions become powerful enough to shape not only what people believe, but what they're willing to recognize as reality?
Of course, that doesn't establish that the vaccines caused such a catastrophe. But the hypothetical itself raises some deeply uncomfortable questions about power, accountability and collective perception.
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>>544435382
Its mostly people faking it for gibs. I work in people's houses all the time. All the ones who supposedly cant work and on disability are all perfectly fine. I actually cant ever remember seeing someone on disability who actually looked disabled. Rural whites are the worst at this.
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>>544460614
>you think the people that killed 100's of millions with the clot shots have no intention of finishing the job in the process of never again+greater pissreal+a dying golem?
>billions must die
Billions will die.
The jews making it through the great reset is literally the worst outcome to all life on the planet.
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>>544435382
Illegal Immigration go up
>Health care number go up
Illegal Immigration go up
>Housing cost number go up

I don't know it's a mystery.
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>>544435382
People scamming the government for taxpayer money. I see them all the time. I have genui9ne disability(legal blindness from retinopathy). This is why Trump's admin is trying to reform the system so it makes it harder for scammers. It's going to make it harder for me too, but I'd say that's fine, I can put in the effort to keep myself stable. A lot of lazy fucks won't put in that effort though, which is good. They can go scalp pokemon cards.
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>>544460619
Anon, you're confusing your personal observations with statistical evidence.
Just because someone doesn't look disabled when you visit their house doesn't mean they're capable of working 40 hours a week.
Chronic pain, neurological disorders, cognitive impairments, heart conditions and plenty of other disabilities aren't necessarily visible.
And being able to walk around your house or have a conversation with you isn't the same as being able to maintain regular employment.
Sure, disability fraud exists. Nobody is denying that. But how exactly did you determine that all those people were perfectly healthy? Did you examine their medical records?
And if rural whites are supposedly the worst offenders, where's the data showing that their disability claims are disproportionately fraudulent?
There's a difference between investigating why disability claims are increasing and simply assuming everyone who doesn't look sick is faking it for government money.
Anecdotes aren't statistics, anon.
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>>544460889
The irony is going to be hilarious, anon.
Imagine if a significant number of these people are actually sick rather than just scamming the system.
Trump tightens disability requirements to eliminate fraud, but instead ends up cutting off genuinely disabled people who can no longer get the assistance they need.
Meanwhile, the number of people suffering from chronic illnesses and disabilities keeps increasing.
So now Trump gets blamed for making life harder for genuinely sick Americans while the underlying health crisis continues getting worse.
And the ultimate irony? If a connection between the COVID vaccines developed under Operation Warp Speed and some of these health problems were ever actually established, Trump would have helped create the very problem his administration was trying to cut benefits for.
You couldn't write a more absurd political tragedy, anon. Lmao.
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>>544461044
From what I've seen, that's not the case at all. And you look at what's going on in LA, Minneapolis, etc and you start to wonder how we really got $40T into debt. If you have 50-80M people getting $500+ a month, 12 months a year, for 3+ decades...
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>>544461186
>we
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>>544435382
I don’t know about you but if my employer gives me X amount of sick days then you bet your ass I’m going to be “sick” exactly X days a year. If company policy changes and it becomes X + 2 days then I’m going to be sick X + 2 days.
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>>544461186
that's only 9 trillion for the full 30 years at 50m
your pop is about 500m
so thats 10% of population receiving only 500$ for 30 years bro
in those same years your total GDP is over 500+ trillion combined
that is to say the gov only spend about 1.8% of its GDP on blind people LOL
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>>544461186
I'm starting to think Americans don't even understand their own statistics, anon.
You're throwing around numbers about welfare recipients and the national debt without distinguishing between disability benefits, Social Security, Medicaid and other government programs.
And you're still using personal anecdotes to dismiss what the disability statistics are actually showing.
That's precisely what makes this whole situation so suspicious to me. We have statistics indicating serious problems with population health, yet the entire discussion immediately turns into accusations of welfare fraud instead of investigating why so many people are reporting disabilities in the first place.
Something about this situation seriously stinks, anon. And the fact that people seem more interested in blaming the recipients than understanding the underlying numbers makes me even more suspicious.
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>>544461393
Anon, you're once again demonstrating that you don't understand the statistics we're discussing.
You're describing how people might exploit a fixed number of paid sick days. That's a completely different phenomenon from an increase in the number of people reporting disabilities or serious functional limitations.
If everyone suddenly gets two additional sick days and uses them, that tells us something about employee incentives, not population health.
But unless you can demonstrate that changes in disability benefits, eligibility criteria or reporting methods explain the observed increase, your personal attitude toward sick leave doesn't explain anything.
You're confusing individual behavior with population-level trends.
And that's exactly my problem with this entire discussion. Instead of asking why the numbers are changing, you guys keep inventing anecdotes to explain them away.
That's not statistical analysis, anon. That's confirmation bias.
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>>544435382
Long covid is a disability in the US
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Please stop with the LLM bot slop posting.
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After reading all these replies, I think the most disturbing part of this entire discussion is how Americans immediately jump to blaming immigrants, welfare recipients and supposedly lazy people without even understanding their own statistics.
>Disability numbers are increasing
>Must be the immigrants
>Must be welfare fraud
>Must be lazy people exploiting the system
>Absolutely no reason to investigate what is actually happening to population health
It's fucking fascinating.
We're discussing potentially enormous changes in the health and economic productivity of the population, and half the replies consist of personal anecdotes about some guy who supposedly looked perfectly healthy while collecting disability benefits.
And nobody seems particularly interested in the elephant in the room: the possibility that the pandemic and the unprecedented mass vaccination campaign might have contributed to some of these developments.
If that hypothesis turns out to explain a significant part of the increase, we're looking at a political, medical and institutional shitshow of historic proportions.
Imagine spending years blaming immigrants and supposedly lazy Americans for a growing disability problem, only to discover that some of the people you were accusing were genuinely suffering from the consequences of decisions made by the very institutions they trusted.
And imagine the consequences if governments responded by restricting disability benefits instead of investigating the underlying health problems.
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The most disturbing part isn't even the possibility of a massive institutional failure.
It's watching how easily people can be convinced to blame each other rather than demand an explanation.
Americans are arguing about who deserves assistance while barely questioning why so many people might need it in the first place.
Whatever the ultimate explanation turns out to be, this complete inability to distinguish statistical evidence from political prejudice is genuinely terrifying.
And if the vaccination hypothesis ever turns out to be correct, the resulting fallout could make this one of the biggest scandals of the century.
The real question is whether society would even be capable of acknowledging it.
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>>544461960
kys
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>>544462031
LONG COVID IS A DISABILITY IN THE US
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>>544461044
Let's not forget who forced the vaccines on everyone

Careers lost
Organ transplants denied
Death threats sent

"The unvaccinated should not have rights"

"Social distance unless it's to protest for BLM"
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>>544462107
And why isn't everyone asking what the fuck happened to population health in the first place?
That's exactly what I've learned from this thread, anon.
Instead of investigating why so many Americans are reporting disabilities, people immediately assume they're lazy NEETs, welfare scammers or immigrants exploiting the system.
You literally just pointed out that Long COVID can qualify as a disability, yet somehow the discussion still revolves around people supposedly faking their illnesses.
Shouldn't the obvious question be why so many people are experiencing long-term health problems, what's causing them, and whether we're even measuring the full extent of the problem?
But apparently blaming lazy people and foreigners is easier than understanding your own fucking statistics.
Absolutely fascinating, anon.
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>>544462107
Long covid covers the virus snd vaccines and accounts for social security disability benefits if established
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>>544462168
And that's what makes this even more interesting, anon.
You'd think the American right would make this an absolutely massive issue, considering everything that happened during the pandemic.
But there's an uncomfortable contradiction here.
Operation Warp Speed happened under Trump, and plenty of conservatives trusted the vaccines themselves.
So now you have people who are perfectly willing to criticize mandates, discrimination and the politicians who enforced them, but seem much less interested in questioning the broader vaccination campaign and their own participation in it.
Because doing that would mean admitting that this wasn't simply a case of Democrats versus Republicans.
Both sides participated in the same system, and plenty of people on both sides believed in it.
It's much easier to blame the other political tribe than to critically examine something you personally supported.
And that's precisely why I find the whole situation so fascinating, anon.
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>>544462214
Feels like you’re steering it towards that conclusion. I didn’t say anything about illegals running up healthcare costs by claiming disability status but it sounds plausible.
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>>544435382
Most of it is made up bullshit like adhd, anxiety, and allergies so doctors can sell more pill subscriptions
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>>544462223
Oh, really, anon? Now I'm curious.
How often does that actually happen, especially when someone claims their disability resulted from vaccination rather than infection?
Surely there must be some lovely statistics showing how many claims were filed, how many were approved, and how many were rejected based on the suspected cause.
You know, actual numbers instead of another round of anecdotes.
I'd absolutely love to see those figures, anon. :D
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>>544462285
And for the record, anon, I've developed a pretty strong dislike for American political arrogance.
Watching Americans constantly blame everyone else while refusing to examine their own institutions is fucking exhausting.
What worries me most is that this same arrogance extends to foreign policy. You keep escalating confrontations with Russia as if nuclear deterrence were some kind of bluff that can be tested indefinitely.
One miscalculation too many, and the consequences could be catastrophic.
But sure, let's keep pretending that nothing could possibly go wrong, anon.
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>>544462289
They don’t discriminate between the two. Obviously lol
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>>544462354
Counties don’t exist like you think they do anon. We don’t control anything through voting anon. Get real.
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You sound like you’re going into s manic spiral
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>>544435754
how do i get on the neetbux train. I have about 4 million in vanguard accounts will they discriminate against me and can i sue if they do ?
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>>544462289

The exact number of federal disability benefits currently paid specifically for Long COVID is not tracked or published by the United States government.

While Long COVID is recognized as a legitimate disabling condition under the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) and can qualify an individual for Social Security benefits, the Social Security Administration (SSA) does not currently have a specific diagnostic code or dedicated "listing" for it. Instead, claims are evaluated under existing frameworks for chronic conditions.

Because of this limitation, Long COVID claims are grouped into broader categories based on symptoms (such as respiratory illnesses, neurological issues, or cardiovascular complications).

While specific payout data is hidden within general statistics, federal reports and health data illuminate the massive scale of the situation:

• Overall System Burden: Over 15 million Americans receive federal disability benefits through Social Security Disability Insurance (SSDI) and Supplemental Security Income (SSI).

• The Affected Population: An estimated 13.7 million U.S. adults suffer from Long COVID, with roughly 3.8 million experiencing limitations severe enough to impact daily functions or their ability to hold down a job.

• The Push for Data Transparency: Several U.S. Senators have actively petitioned the Social Security Administration to explicitly track and publish data regarding Long COVID applications. They are pushing to create a specific medical listing to streamline access for these individuals
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The medical system is completely fucked. I don't understand why leftists want it 'free' when it's already terrible, and would get exponentially worse. We already have queues, doctors never want to venture out of their lanes, or share their suspicions of potential ailments or suggest lifestyle changes; one visit results in a multitude of different bills. The system is rife with fraud, overcharging, and complete mismanagement. It's completely broken and needs to be built from the ground up, before we consider having a bankrupt government 'cover the bills'. You're literally retarded if you want "universal healthcare", without an absolute reconstruction of the system.
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>>544435382
I see it in my own family its because people are burned out and worn out bodily they don't want to work so they pursue disability
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>>544435382
>Anon discovers that boomers are getting older faster.
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>>544435382
As more people realize there's a large popultion of welfare parasites living off their labour, they throw up their hands and give up and start taking advantage of the system themselves.

The welfare system was never sustainable because it's fundamentally unjust and people don't put up with injustice forever. Charity must be voluntary.
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>>544435382
>Bro, the politicians, military officers, doctors and bureaucrats are living in the same fucking society
my goy in ein sof. no one whose a public figure is really in control of anything, that's why it's called "shadow" government
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im on two welfare checks and dont work.

plus gst.

i rcycle bottles, cans, cardboard. more money

i been neet since 2005. i could tell how doomed the world would become even back then.
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>>544466046
>my goy in ein sof
that actually got me good
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>>544465806
It's this. Our welfare bill is exploding because every cunt is giving up. That, and you can make more money on welfare than working full time.
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>>544466655
Yep the bum who sells contraband smokes outside the liquor store near me brags that he's on longterm disability for some made up mental illness
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>>544435382
Isn't it obvious?! The C19 vaccine corrupted everybody's immune system, so many people are one wrong infection away from a chronic health condition and many more have autoimmune disease, I know many people who developed an autoimmune disease right after vaccination. The science has been discussed extensively on /pol/ for 6 years now just look in the archives. This is not only because of a mass conspiracy to weaken, sterilize and depopulate the masses but also because the all vaccines were experimental gene therapy and were bound to have long term side-effects.
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>>544454607
>You're telling me that ALL these politicians, doctors, military officers and bureaucrats knew what was supposedly happening, collectively agreed to protect themselves, and somehow managed to keep the entire thing secret?

Nope. What I'm saying is that MOST likely the top-tier folks knew...but MOST of them were just smart enough NOT to trust the Government and saw all the Red flags.
ALSO.... the New Zealand the vaxx exemption for the wealthy was real...and easily checked.
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>>544435659
It’s all the Somalis pretending to be disabled to commit fraud, Muhammad.
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>>544437308
looks like this one rounded himself up
>>544437280
shills are out in full force, trying to give you nonsensical arguments to frustrate and bore you. good work anon, keep it up. finally a thread worth looking at.
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>>544454607
>So let me get this straight, anon.
>You're telling me that ALL these politicians, doctors, military officers and bureaucrats knew what was supposedly happening, collectively agreed to protect themselves, and somehow managed to keep the entire thing secret?
>And you think that makes sense?
>If they all knew, why would they expose their own families, friends and colleagues? And why would you assume that every single person in these institutions was part of the same conspiracy?
yes, this happens all the time. there are such things as nda's for example. then there's the tuskeegee experiments where they infected black people with syphillis without their knowledge to study how it spreads. loads of people were in on this and never said a word.
what you need to realize is that the world runs on fraternities. these are groups with common interests which are usually sworn to both secrecy and mutual aid. and who says they exposed all their families and colleagues? they may have told them too.
there were all kinds of esoteric aspects to this if you know what to look for. for instance, here is ol fauci, the man who invented the aids virus hoax and used the dangerous off label drug azt to "treat" it. this isn't fauci's first rodeo, as they say. he previously headed a team that invented a disease and sold a super deadly cure. all of the symptoms of aids can be explained by the treatment, which is usually deadly, so deadly it was taken off the market as a cancer drug
remember, all of this nonsense was over a "virus" that had a survival rate 10x higher than common flu.
now look at the word corona, it means crown, in hebrew this is keter, the first sephiroth and first emanation of God. now, these people running this show are most likely part of continental freemasonry, which seeks to use public ritual and things like art and architechture to cause magickal changes in the world and qaballah is one of the tools they use
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>>544439829
its incredibly hard to get neetbux from the government, you need a dr to sign the forms and to verify there is a disability. not just an illness, but an illness that prevents working.
>>544442345
its full of foreigners to keep the system going. they depress wages and keep inflation down and working conditions miserable. class warfare.
and see pic related, there definitely are plans to reduce world population. hey remember when some billionaire took over the world health organization? poopoo farms remembers.
and yes the deaths thing is a disingenuous gambit, meant to be a distraction.
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>>544443036
here is a bunch of cops making the square and compass with their shadows on state tv
btw covid has a reduction gematria value of 26, the same as the value of YHVH. in hebrew all letters and ergo words have a numerical value, many ancient near east cultures were like this, greek as well. in the occult, these numbers are stand ins and are thought to have power of their own. if you want to look into this go to gematrinator dot com to look up values and number relations, and see this correspondence table from the thelemites
https://hermetic.com/crowley/libers/lib500#table-of-factors
there is an allegorical tale embedded in the whole narrative. so the God virus is killing everyone, and there is only one way to stop it, a long, sharp object.
now keep that on the back burner and consider how in the occult, set of the egyptian pantheon is considered the same as YHVH, and horus the same as jesus. horus kills set with a harpoon after he turns into a hippo. this is also the plot to moby dick, with ahab as jesus/horus sacrificing himself to slay the demiurge with the syringe/harpoon.
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>>544443255
check
again loads of masonic dogwhistling going on here
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>>544443659
you dont get to be a politician, run corporations, be a funded scientist, run an institution, etc without being part of the in crowd aka a fraternal order member.
and remember that compartmentalization is a thing. you are correct, very likely few know the whole story, same goes for the d day operation in wwii. or even the gulf of tonkin! most of the sailors had no idea they were firing at ghost blips to start a war, but at least some of the commanders did. need to know basis bro.
and don't forget the whole controlled opposition, like this twat in pic related, with a masonic apron logo to advertise his membership in the frat
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>>544452521
israel is one of the most vaxxed places on earth. also a global leader in globohomoing.
you know they have factions that all hate each other right? how come they dont all just bow down to the big rabbi like they do in your mind?>>544453994
there are a few competing theys but the biggest player right now at least in the west is continental freemasonry. you really need to look into this. its the entire basis for the globohomo mindset. equality of the genders and erasure of their distinctions, trans stuff, everyone speaking one language (esperanto was a masonic endeavour) to piss God off, see tower of babel story. also the esoteric reason for piling foreigners into the territory ruled over by a replica of the tower of babel from brughels painting
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>>544456769
they are fantastically rich and are building bunkers like crazy. note the handshake with the bunker builder btw. how do you think he gets that kind of clientele? connections
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>>544436303
>somehow we're supposed to believe everyone suddenly became so miserable after 2020 that millions more started reporting disabilities?
I’d easily buy that, why wouldn’t you?
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>>544435793
The USA government is far to busy assisting israel to do anything to benefit its own population.
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There is a whole trend where zoomer pretend to be disable.
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>>544437617
does having a good sense of humor mean I don't have autism? thank god
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>>544435382
Vaxx deaths. 6 billion+ by 2100.
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>>544435382
jewish money laundering. Line go up.
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Waging in Jewsa is the ultimate humiliation ritual so I dont blame them.
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>>544470521
>here is a bunch of cops making the square and compass with their shadows on state tv
>btw covid has a reduction gematria value of 26, the same as the value of YHVH. in hebrew all letters and ergo words have a numerical value, many ancient near east cultures were like this, greek as well. in the occult, these numbers are stand ins and are thought to have power of their own. if you want to look into this go to gematrinator dot com to look up values and number relations, and see this correspondence table from the thelemites
>https://hermetic.com/crowley/libers/lib500#table-of-factors
>there is an allegorical tale embedded in the whole narrative. so the God virus is killing everyone, and there is only one way to stop it, a long, sharp object.
>now keep that on the back burner and consider how in the occult, set of the egyptian pantheon is considered the same as YHVH, and horus the same as jesus. horus kills set with a harpoon after he turns into a hippo. this is also the plot to moby dick, with ahab as jesus/horus sacrificing himself to slay the demiurge with the syringe/harpoon.
Huh.
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>>544462031
>I think the most disturbing part of this entire discussion is how Americans immediately jump to blaming immigrants, welfare recipients and supposedly lazy people without even understanding their own statistics.
imagine you are part of a cult that melds christianity end times with alchemy, egyptian mysticsim, kaballah, and all sorts of other magic. the goal is to get to the end times, which are described as being a period of great tribulation where most of the earth's population dies save for the 144,000 chosen. this would be a good thing if all these people died. you have enough resources to live 1000 lives with ease and comfort.
now think of the un building which also houses lucis press, formerly lucifer press, the theosophical society's publisher. there is a direct line of descent from co masonry to annie besant.
there is also a weird mural showing the end times, as well as a quote from isaiah 2:4 about turning swords into ploughshares in the end times.
they are trying to get to the book of revelation end times by manipulating world events. almost all news can be seen through this lens and made sense of.
see pic related, the blood tribe guy, with a harpoon, which we discussed before. hes in front of the washington monumnet, an obelisk, which represents the penis of osiris which was vut off by set, and the only part not recovered when he was reassembled. the penis was replaced with a golden one with which he fathered horus. so the blood tribe guy knows the story. he was trying to recruit american racists into fighting for ukraine, aka the biblical war of gog and magog
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>>544436610
i did, none of them have.
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>>544435382
>import even more turdworlders that know nothing but lying, scamming, stealing and fraud
>act surprised that disability claims go up
Have you guys like not tried importing animals and trying to civilize them?
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>>544435382
actual medical knowledge effectively regressed at some point to doctors becoming less capable of actually curing shit.
and this is after whether they even want to cure people over pill pushing and before the covid fauxine poisoning.
industry was effectively taken over by jews to straight up just harvest peoples flesh to make poryphia drugs for jews or some other shady shit.

numbers are there that serious death numbers happened post covid war grade death numbers but every official channel lemmings listen too is in on the scheme.
if shills were smart enough to tell they were lied to and care system would have filtered them out way before sending them here and all people who do care already know.

getting exactly what this all is would take executing most people in power because most had to be in on it and certainly enough so to get this was bad.
shitload of people still struggle admitting christianitys just a branch of this same machine let alone the scale of rot in governments even in a pogrom scenario.
there is little chance people would be willing to admit the depth of the rot enough to check inside churchs or hospitals hell be lucky to get the known problem people cleared out.
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>>544471676
my nigga
you dont get to influence public discourse to any wide degree for long before being compromised in some manner.
there are more than just masons too, there are societies for everything. like luigi mangioni is in a frat famous for having lots of intel agency types in it as alums. there are also frats for intel guys, where you need to be cia or fbi etc to join. wheels within wheels, circles within circles with overlapping membership
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>>544471854
>A black two-headed Eagle is GOD; even a Black Triangle is He. In His claws He beareth a sword; yea, a sharp sword is held therein
>book of lies, aleister crowley
notice the 2 eagles on his shoulders, looking east and west. he is the demiurge, like most bad guy characters. the laser eyes is from the talmud, rabbi bar yochai came out of his cave and laser eyed all the sinners. btw the dish that shoots alderaan was called the "laser eye" by the production crew of star wars.
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A good 40% of it are people scamming the system for gibs.
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It's just fake for gibs.
Every military veteran tries to get a disability rating.
I know guys who just cried to a VA psychiatrist they were raped by niggers in the shower and they get 100% permanent disability for life which has tons of perks aside from $4k a month tax free. And you can still work while being classed 100% permanently disabled. So it's just scammers.
America is a corrupt gay jewish country and everyone is scamming it accordingly.
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>Yeah bro, I'm sure millions of people collectively decided to stop working right around 2021.
Literally yes. They got fired or fed up with covid musical chairs and left their job for greener pastures. The white people just basically quit because they knew they weren't getting hired no matter how great they were.

>The question is WHY the numbers are rising, not which convenient explanation makes us feel better.
The only "job" now is AI. We don't even know what that means yet so that might be contributing to it.
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Same zoomette here in a wheelchair.
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People can live off 1 to 4k USD a month in disability gibs - so they do. Easier than working and no stress.
Tens of millions are on this UBI proxy income.
I know 2 women in their 20s living in their grandmother's garage. It's a 3 bedroom house with like, 9 people living there - all adults. All white. That's America now.
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>>544435382
here we have a massive scam industry dedicated to declaring disability, poketing the pension and the working under the table.
i worked as a lawyer in a firm that specialized in that .
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Why? Did you really just learn about the kikes this very second?
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Most of that is fraud.
You just need a doctor to sign off on some paperwork and you get gibs.
>Why is it up?
The (planned) third world invasion happened post-covid. Immigrants are all very tight-nit and know how to game the system. Look at what Somali's have done in Minnesota.

picunrel
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>>544436483
Literally this. There is Teflon in rainwater in Antarctica. The food water and air in every inch of earth is poisoned because of unchecked greed. Nothing we can do about it. Just gotta have cockroach dna to survive at this point, unfortunately that favors the disgusting browns, but some whites will live on as well.
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most people took the vaxx because most people are sheeps, there is nothing you can do about it, unless you aim at becoming the pastor and direct the sheeps yourself
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Why work when you can stay home and get free money? Dr. Patel will write you a script for anything!



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