"Pepita" (1930), by Francisco Soria Aedo. This was the turning point that marked Spain's decline
>>544447606I understand why God just doesn’t care.
>>544447606>Meanwhile, Picasso.
good morning buaetiful i kiss you
>>544447606goonbait
>>544447606art and music are forbidden in islam, conversely drinking camel piss and inbreeding are halal.
>>544447722kek'd
>>544447606I don't get it. Doesn't it look good?
>>544447606
>>544447606How were those paintings not seen as being lust provoking or something? I mean i can understand standard nude paintings since usually the secondary sex characteristics are downplayed but in that picture it's obviously exagerrated.
>>544447606He painted them nipples with a masterful stroke….if you know what I mean
>aiiiiiiiijiiii save me yahweh I saw a painting!!!!!!!
>>544447722>>544447844My thoughts immediately went to this
>>544447844what is it about white women that makes non-white/brown/muslim men so desperate to lust after, date, have sex with, sexually harass/assault etc. them?
>>544447923>tf>tpKeep musloid wahmyn in trashbags to reduce rapes, ahmed.
>>544448483have you seen how ugly the vast majority of shitskin women are, especially the Pajeetas?
>>544447606Nice tiddies
>>544448554funny how shitskins hate white people but yet want to live in white countries and have sex with white women
>>544448483>no extreme body hair >overall happy and positive outlook because of western culture >way better fitness >wears slutwear in public daily Not a surprise
>>544447722come to Bangladesh, i receive you
>>544448812also white women are only like 6% of the worlds population, so it's a rare thing for them as well
>>544447606What’s the problem here?Are you saying that the sexy lady painting gave you Franco?
>>544448957Grim picture
>>544447606Art is for faggots.
>>544447722thank yuo for bobsshow vagene
>>544447606this is what peak female physique looks like
>>544447606Goya painted full beavers one century before this
>>544449138art is high civilization since ancient times. you have to go back
why is this considered at when its just pornography? would you hang this up in your house and have your parents come over for dinner? would you hang it in your place of work? what about a playboy poster?
>>544449288If you think that’s porn then you are the problem
>sensuality... le BadChristian art connoisseurs, everyone.
>>544448812dont forget the head full of gold, thats why the africans skull crushed white people so it must be true. i mean you can literally crush your head open and sell the gold inside it. thats what 3,5kg of gold? ho boi no wonder the kikes want to kill Whites
>>544449288If you have parents they have fucked at least once. Someone had their dick out entering a vagina. A nude body sitting there is nothing compared to that.
>>544447606tiddies
>>544449387It's non idealism of form.
>>544449481I immediately know you are low IQ and poor when I see you posting that.You are like a Barbarian entering Rome.
>>544447606>AI upscaling a painting
>>544447606damn, Pepita was HOT as fuck! Sneaky little Francisco probably did all of sorts of nasty things with this broad
>>544448640They hate white men out of jealousy, that's it.
>>544448483Those are the women they see in porn
>>544449567emma watson
>>544447606The turning point was the fall of Carlism movement.That marked not only the fall of Spain but the fall of Cathokicism.
Lewd
>>544449633since the internet reaches the global brown majority across the world, who knows what browns look at on the internet when they're feeling horny
>>544447606Those toes, wtf. Not even a footfag, just cannot unsee.
>>544447606I really don't see why right wingers have such a stick up their ass about non-realistic art. Photography made realism in painting redundant, artists sought to capture the world in other ways using their paints and brushes.
>>544449554>Ancap flag >Calls others stupid and poor
>"Art" is just 1girl spam
>>544449288It's not pornographic at all, it's just a naked woman. You can't even see her pussy.It only seems strange to you because you are an insecure adult virgin who has never been in the same room as naked woman.
>>544449787If I had a UN flag do you think that means I am a member of a delegation? That's the level of coo-coo ca choo coco pops you are operating on with that retort, you ID hopped to issue.
>>544449917Is that the indiana jones guy from the plane?
>>544447606Was she tortured?Feet fingernails look all kinds of fucked up.
For me, it's Venus of Urbino by Titian
>>544449567Id hang that in my home
>>544449638Now THAT deserves to be hung in a home
>>544448483because white men have spent the last 30 years spamming the internet about how white women are better, basically advertising them for the rest of the world, and then on top of that make porn that brown men watch.
OP, you cretin christcuck, read Morality over Morality by Joseph Goebbels He was calling you a white knighting loser simp, almost a hundred years ago
>>544447606Did her feet look like that or was the artist just not good at drawing them?>>544449638nice>>544450208sex. sex with paintings.
>>544449773>Technology made artist obsolete>Artist has to find new niche>Technology has made artist obsolete againKek, kek and more keks
>>544447606Why did she have the face of a man? Isolate that head and give it a manly haircut, 99% would claim it's definitely a man. Likely a grizzled mine worker.
>>544450482Technology replaced the graphic designer, replacing the artist is something it can never do. Lots of graphic designers were under the impression they were artists though lol
>>544447606Name of these fine titties?
>>544449099Agreed - turbo feminism on display.
>>544450482>>544450670I feel like technology can never truly replace real art. It will water down the market for sure. The regular dude doesn’t care if the art on his wall is real or fake, so artists miss out on those easy sales. But having a hand made piece of art with a story and face behind it still carries a lot of value.
>>544449367>>544449443>>544449926It's porn and you are all evil. The level of moral degeneracy even on the "right" is shocking
>>544450761At least she admitted her mistake and went on a full campaign to expose how awful those countries are
>>544450830Gang raping feminsts is not as awful as tolerating them
>>544450801Nude art being porn is like saying self defense is 1st degree murder. The nature of the thing and the intent behind it is extremely relevant. People that ignore that are just lazy, contrarian, or trolling
Birth of Venus by Alexandre Cabanel is another recumbent nude I spilt much seed to.
>>544447714>>Meanwhile, Picasso.Yes, what about him?
>>544449966Jesus Christ you sound like a faggot>>>/r/eddit
>>544447606Nudes have been painted in europe for centuries you fucking mongoloid
>>544447606wow pretty girl friend come to mumbai i receive you
>>544450632>Why did she have the face of a man? Isolate that head and give it a manly haircut, 99% would claim it's definitely a man.why are incels so easy to spot? have you ever seen a single female in your life?
>>544450974>Don't jork ur jiggler to me boyimCome on. She didn't have to say that
>>544450801Mormons should be banned from public discussion forums
>>544450913>Nude art being porn is like saying self defense is 1st degree murderNo, it's not.>The nature of the thing and the intent behind it is extremely relevantThey have the exact same intent, one just cloaks itself behind a veneer of respectability because it has the magic "art" label on it>People that ignore that are just lazy, contrarian, or trollingYou're just weak minded fool who is easily controlled by rhetorical tricks
>>544447606mmmmm cute tummy
>>544447923Venus of Urbino is an explicitly lust provoking image, it's intentional erotic. It was kept privately for the most part. Anything in that pose is supposed to be erotic. But by the 19th century, erotic art isn't really uncommon.
>>544451140I'm Catholic. You should be killed.
>>544447606>armpit hair>she didn't let her musk settle for a few daysThere is nothing we can do.
>>544447722Checked and Kek'd
>>544450208>Titian>Paints immaculate tits
>>544451203Then you are an idiot. Let me introduce you to several Catholic artist throughout history that depicted nude women. Several of who literally painted FOR the Catholic Church.Take your clutched pearls and shove them up your ass you fucking poser.
>>544447722Perfection
>>544447606looks like a girl I fucked, but she had more of a gut
>>544448483They're objectively more beautiful than all other races. People only prefer Asians because of their personalities.
>>544451203You’ve turned your back on your culture. You’re a prot now
>>544449277To be honest high civilization was made by fags.
>>544451354Is Rubens the Pierce Brosnan of classic artists?
>>544451203Another piece by Titian (Tiziano Vecellio)
>>544451182>everyone has my coomer brainno thanks
>>544449638this is what ai is for.
>>544451203Here another by Catholic artist William-Adolphe Bouguereau who frequently painted realistic religious art for Catholic institutions.Basically, you are an idiot talking out of his ass.
>>544449917>"Art" is just 1girl spamAlways was.*BLAM*
>>544447606That's a man
>>544447606Is Blender porn of the most grotesque sort, art? Simple question.
>>544450632>Why did she have the face of a man? Isolate that head and give it a manly haircut, 99% would claim it's definitely a man. Likely a grizzled mine worker.Spaniards are a manly race.
>>544451203Viewing classical nudes as 'pornography' is actually a Puritan mindset, not a Catholic one. The Church has spent 2,000 years teaching that the human body is inherently good because God made it. Pope St. John Paul II explicitly defended the nude in art in his Theology of the Body, and the Vatican is filled with nudes commissioned by the Popes themselves. To call it porn completely misunderstands the difference between lustful objectification and celebrating the beauty of God's creation. It was in fact Protestant Reformers and Puritans who smashed statues, covered up paintings, and viewed the physical body as completely corrupted by sin.
>>544447606Oddly enough, just ordered The Wave by Bouguereau earlier today.
>>544451744You're literally retarded>>544451837This would never have been allowed to happen when the church was strong. Clearly just represents a degradation of morals as the church bent to modernity>>544452006Lmao did they do a lot of nude art before the Renaissance?
>>544451933Is Blender porn made to express an idea or feeling of any kind? Besides horniness?
>>544452006>Pope St. John Paul IILmao that faggot was a heretic. I see now. You're a Vatican 2 cultist (most evil people on the planet)
>>544452122Its made entirely to please the cock.And maybe the pussy, im not sure.
>>544452093>>544452127Imaging being so puritanical that you accidentally become a Protestant to own the gooners.
>>544452093You're not some sort of strip mall evangelical who thinks he's a legitimate Protestant, are you? Those guys are famous for being absolute retards with no tradition of scholasticism, historicity, or any sort of legitimacy.
>>544449567I was wondering about the double nipple and a bad case of toenail fungus
>>544447606hello baby I take you to diner and touch you softly
>>544451511You're a literal retard
>>544448483>who are the real people of color
>>544451431I see like dozens of girls just like that on Tinder every day.arr women look the same
>>544447722I mean to be fair, the model has a nice pair of tits.
>>544452203No I am a Catholic.
>>544451743Me on the right
>>544452296So you're a retarded Catholic with no connection to your own history? Do you not understand that your church was the single, biggest patron of the arts in human history?
>>544452348you're a literal retard
>>544448483Pornography
>>544450208is there any painting like that but hebe of a 12-15 year old woman?
>>544447606I prefer kenneth clark's take that good art is a side product of an energised healthy society
>>544447606exquisite tits
>>544452203He is larping as a Catholic. Which is retarded because the Vatican is literally full of paintings like what I posted. >>544452296You literally don't even understand the history of the Church bro. The Church actually did the opposite of 'bending to modernity.' The modern era is when they panicked over Protestants calling them perverts and started painting underpants on all the Vatican statues.When the Protestant Reformation happened, Protestants screamed that the Catholic Church was corrupt, pagan, and sex-obsessed because of all the naked artwork.Sucks to argue with someone who actually knows what they are talking about, huh? Congrats on becoming Protestant, you should try to be Catholic instead.
>>544452418You literally don't even understand that what you posted harms your argument. You idiot. The fig leaf campaign was because of Prots screaming about nudity just like you are. Congrats, you are basically a protestant.
>>544447606>hairy armpitswhat the fuck?is this image supposed to incite feelings of lust or revulsion? who the fuck finds hairy armpits attractive? she's also a bit on the chubby side don't you think?
>>544447722hallo mam verrrry sexi and beatiful bob vagene... come uttar pradesh i do sex kissing
>>544452537You literally have zero idea what you are talking about. The issue of nude art was debated during the renaissance and the Council of Trent pulled back on it and did some censorship. You obviously will not find any nude art in Christian European history before this time.The painters were all secular humanists trying to recreate antiquity and this shit obviously never should have been tolerated. Literally exact same thing as all the masons and shitlibs that came in the following centuries. You already said "Saint John Paul II" so I know you are a modernist Vatican II demon.
>>544449680Lawd!
>>544451837Immaculate, some dancerr will train for years to try to look like this and her singer friend will snapchat her a photo of herself choked unconscious hail mary
>>544452596>The fig leaf campaign was because of Prots screaming about nudity just like you are. Congrats, you are basically a protestant. All of the reforms of that period were because of protestant criticisms you retarded faggot. They also banned the sale of indulgences at Trent. This is like " Hitler drank water" tier argument
>>544452891If the Church thought nudity was inherently evil, they would have destroyed the statues. Instead, they just slapped removable metal leaves on them because they knew the art was masterful. Plus, the Vatican literally spent millions removing those fig leaves during modern restorations to bring back the original nudes. The Church literally undid your favorite campaign. You have the history completely backwards. Before the Renaissance, medieval Catholic cathedrals regularly featured sculptures of nude figures like Adam and Eve the Church has always known the body is God's creation, not a sin. The Renaissance painters weren't 'secular humanists stealthing the Church'; they were practicing Catholics explicitly hired and paid by the Popes to celebrate that beauty. Opposing classical art isn't traditional Catholicism, it's Puritanism/Prot bullshit.Congrats on becoming a Prot bud, ever thought about rejoining the one true church? Pic related is literally in the Autun Cathedral (France) btwHow can you still be so confidently wrong?
>>544449917i like your style
>>544447606meet me sweet I fuck your sweet vagene so slow you fall asleep
>>544448483Here's the truth anon, the brown/nigger race is the protohuman slave race and Gods were pure white, like literally white.Then one God decided humans should not be slaves of the Gods and mixed his God Ayy lmao DNA with some of the protohumans thus creating the superior white race of today.Brownoids instinctively view white people as Gods and something to admire.
>>544447844Islam is still right about women.
>>544453336>Plus, the Vatican literally spent millions removing those fig leaves during modern restorations to bring back the original nudes.roflmao, you don't say>the Church literally undid your favorite campaign.lololol fake church>The Renaissance painters weren't 'secular humanists stealthing the ChurchYea, they were. Where were they all before the Renaissance? Why didn't medieval artists draw nudes?>Congrats on becoming a Prot bud, ever thought about rejoining the one true church? You're not part of the church. You're a Vatican II cultist. Congrats on your faggot white genocide "pope" btw. How many does that make now?
>>544452987You just played yourself. The Council of Trent specifically reformed the Church in response to Protestant criticisms and yet, the Church completely refused to ban nude art. They banned financial abuses like selling indulgences because those were actually wrong, but they protected and preserved classical nudes because they recognized art isn't inherently sinful. If the Church viewed nudes the same way it viewed corrupt indulgences, they would have outlawed them entirely. Instead, they just issued guidelines for modesty in church altars while keeping massive private collections of secular nudes for the Popes and Cardinals. Catholics also regularly painted holy female martyrs like St. Catherine entirely naked in their prayer books to symbolize innocence. You keep inventing a fake history where the Church was afraid of the female body, but real Catholic history proves you wrong.Nudity in art is completely acceptable because the key to morality of any one particular work of art is intent, differentiating it entirely from pornography. Your inability to separate the two is a very old Protestant take as old as time. Learn your history kiddo, this has been debated for literal generations, look up 'Nuditas Virtualis' (innocence) and 'Nuditas Criminalis' (sin)
>>544452891Christianity is an anti-life anti-sex death cult that worships and empowers Jews.
>>544452006This.
>>544447606How has art ever benefited humanity?
>>544453673>Church in response to Protestant criticisms and yet, the Church completely refused to ban nude art. > yet, the Church completely refused to ban nude art>Instead, they just issued guidelines for modesty in church altars while keeping massive private collections of secular nudes for the Popes and Cardinalroflmao>>544453713Fuck off kike
>>544447722Checked and Keked.See ya in Valhalla saar>>544447804>>544451336>>544451203>>544453673See ya in the Backrooms Purgatoryhttps://youtu.be/D-9ylW9a-MA.https://youtu.be/ZbfTzlfIISg.https://youtu.be/z6oWkq9Nzaw.https://youtu.be/RPWScZ-9gpw
>>544453542>Where were they all before the Renaissance? Why didn't medieval artists draw nudes?I literally just gave you a list of 1100s and 1200s medieval Catholic cathedrals with explicit naked women carved into the front doors. You can't read, you don't know history, and now you’re throwing a tantrum and calling the actual Catholic Church a 'fake church' just to protect your ego. Go touch some holy water and touch grass.
>>544447606AWOOGA
>>544447722Checked and Keked.See ya in Valhalla saar>>544447804>>544451336>>544451203>>544453673See ya in the Backrooms Purgatoryhttps://youtu.be/D-9ylW9a-MA.https://youtu.be/ZbfTzlfIISg.https://youtu.be/z6oWkq9Nzaw.https://youtu.be/RPWScZ-9gpw,
>>544448483Nice color palette
>>544451734If I were with them there would be a fucking plap-pocalypse the likes of which hasn't been seen since the days of the old republic.
>>544447606>thumbnail looked like emma watsondisappointing. can someone edit it to make it look like her face
>>544448812>overall happy and positive outlook because of western cultureThis isnt the case anymore, white women are depressed and devastated on a daily basis and only survive on sugar caffinated coffee and medication
>>544453877Glad you can read kiddo, now the question is, will you comprehend? You can't run your mouth and spout bullshit to someone who knows more about a topic than you do. Sorry.
>>544454049>>544454054>>544453988>>544453951See y'all in the Backrooms Purgatoryhttps://youtu.be/D-9ylW9a-MA [].https://youtu.be/ZbfTzlfIISg [].https://youtu.be/z6oWkq9Nzaw [].https://youtu.be/RPWScZ-9gpw [],Looping in the rooms Looping in the roomsLooping in the rooms.....
>>544453951>calling the actual Catholic ChurchYOU AREN'T PART OF THE ACTUAL CATHOLIC CHURCH
>>544449638nvm it's here. looks like shit. can someone make one that actually looks like the face is painted
>>544447796
>>544454124boomer voice detected
>>544453410they crashlanded /here/ and needed labor/free workers to farm metal and ressources to repair and refuel their ayylmao ships so they mixed their ayylmao dna with literally any animal there was roaming around and gave them 0,1% of technology.when they were done, they placed their terraformer on top north africa to succc in all rare metals, energy of the earth, ect ect and fucked off. thus creating the literal desert, saha-ra.couple of millions or so time goes buy and now /we/ are sitting here gambling on crab fights on a deepsea crabwrestling forum.ty for reading my blog
Kind of a random question but related, did people actually wack off to nude paintings back in the day? I mean, I kinda know already, duh, but what I mean is porn was being made and distributed, at least not at like the late 19th-20ths centuries and now, so I wonder if guys would goon to paintings instead and collect them like they do regular porn now. I know guys in ancient Greece would probably wack off to Venus statues, I just don't know how prevalent this all was if if I am retroactively inserting my own frame of reference view points.
>>544454155Credit where it's due for the other foids agreeing with the man instead of taking offence and automatically siding with the blonde.
>>544454145Bro is excommunicating me from the 12th century because he got filtered by stone carvings of naked women on Cathedrals. Absolute legendary cope. Keep screaming into the void, bud.>>544454172You can take your puritan purity spiraling to some Evangelical church bud, they will love you there.
>>544454311
>>544454376>we have reached the temper tantrum part of losing the argument Cope more kiddo, the art I posted was from the 11th to 16th century. You don't know fuck all about the history of the Catholic church.
>>544454236im assuming they didnt goon for 12 hours lmao, but some outliers probably did. marquis de sade definitely gooned to his sadist writings
>>544454236>make 10/10 marble statue for your goddess venus>make pentagram under her, complete with sigil, invocation, spices, alcohol ect ect ect>close templedoors>fuck her/or imagine her fucking you whilst being in a coma/trance>tell her your deepest desire and wish>she winks at you>a small pink heart flies from her closed eye, or so you think you imagine?>the radiating goddess turns back to marble>wake up completely roary drunk, spazzed out, overcooked some may even say>you try to best to pronounce your gratitude in a soberly fashion to her>times goes by, you still lie on the floor>everyone dances the dinosaur>this is ofc not related to any (free)masonry shenanigans
>>544454526Council of Trent:>Moreover, in the invocation of saints, the veneration of relics, and the sacred use of images, every superstition shall be removed, all filthy lucre be abolished; finally, all lasciviousness be avoided; in such wise that figures shall not be painted or adorned with a beauty exciting to lust..."This means you are allowed to paint like, nude people in hell or Christ partially nude on the cross. Every single painting that's been shown in here of women reclining nude on a bed would obviously be banned under this as they are simply pornography, and subsequently much of the nudity in the Sistine Chapel was covered up with fig leaves, only revealed again by the late 20th century satanic Vatican II cult. You are a liar. You are a horrible person. Every single word that comes pouring out of your cunt mouth is false.
>>544447722Kek, good one
>>544449567Can you remove the armpit hair?
>>544454626>Humans were gooning in antiquityNothing new under the sun
>>54444792319th century people didn't have a problem with tasteful lust provoking images. They weren't fanatic puritans like the average zoomer
>>544452418If you feel lust by looking at Godly, artistic depictions of the human form then that's a you problem you should take to your priest. Not something you should advertise on 4Chan.
>>544447606Pretty sure Spain had just spent the last two centuries declining. Whatever happened with Franco was a drop in the ocean compared to losing your entire empire and even power within Europe.
>>544454962OP is a Godly, artistic depictions of the human form??
>>544454788it's barely present
>>544447722Kek
>>544447606My grandmother's nickname was >Pepita
>>544450801Shut up faggot
>>544455126Shut up faggot
>>544451275Underrated post >Don't bathe
>>544455026Yes, actually. There's nothing titilating or provocative about it if you've actually seen naked women in real life before.
>>544455174You are seriously evil
>>544448483Feminity duh. Its like whites lusting after asians.Lighter,pinker,slimmer,etc. plus it’s conditioning from porn growing up. Most kids when they see boobs is likely on a screen or magazine. Abd if its not national geographic. Your first tits were pink nipples.So its grooming by the jewessEthnic porn is a new niche
>>544455212That's for God to decide and I'm good with him. Again, go to confession and discuss your issues with a priest as is your way.
>>544447722this poster must be living in Canada on the border and his geoflag is showing the US instead
>>544455265You are a demonic entity
>>544452265With tits like that it's not a bad look thankfully
>>544455291Sure, brown. What are you? A brown who thinks he's Catholic because that's who dominated your ancestors?
>>5444476061pbtid b8Too bad I was willing to hear an argument about this if OP had had the stones to make one
>>544447722Bob on
>>544454155Get that bitch out of bed so she can help you save the kids.
>>544449638Not Hag enough.
>>544454155I would have told her she had an upside down mouth to give her a complex. Look at that top lip compared to the bottom. Literally flipped 180 degrees upside down. Wtf is that.
>>544448554Sadly yes. Best looking ones are the kost white passing. And they need to be born invthe west to have better nutrition, health care and clean air to look better. Mena are half inbred. And like blacks and latinas so many of them are fat.And best looking blacks and Latinas are usually mostly white by dna like dominicans or Colombians.Even among escorts. Whites and asians get the most work despite being more numerous. Indians, mena charge more for rarity but the latinas are cheaper and hotter and more numerous.Blacks hardly get picked as well>t. Pro gooner of 8 years that made friends with local hoes
>>544455145Or you could just kill yourself stupid queer>ERHMAGAWD A NAKED WOMAN>NO YOU CANT JUST PAINT SOMETHING BEAUTIFUL!!! IT GIVES ME NAUGHTY THOUGHTS!!Absolutely fucking sand nigger tier
>>544455781if thats now monica belucci, you forgot to make the tits bigger
>>544455781may I ask what you used to make this?
>>544455781i did notice the nipple and shape re-design tho, well done. much better then the original
>>544447606>La butterfaceitaWoof...now that's a face that screams "doggystyle"
>>544454149Here u go. >>544456130Krea 2, Forge Neo on stability matrix.
>>544447606Holy fuck, he painted toenail fungus.
>>544447606Spain was white??
>>544452600You are uncultuted swine.
>>544454149I made some adjustments
>>544447923kill yourself you circumcised freak
>>544452600You've never fucked a woman with a little hair in her armpits and it shows. The French are definitely onto something and I've been saying it for years.
>>544447606women dress like this to the gym now??
>>544454236pornographic art existed back in the day but something like this would be in a church or public space so jarking it to them would be extremely unwise.
>>544456703Perfection
>>544449288I can understand not liking depictions of naked women but to call this painting porn is straight up retarded
>>544450418Nobody gives a shit, Paco.
>>544452127And you're not a Catholic, Schismatic Schizo.
>>544449567There we go. Why fuck up a beautiful artwork with noticeable, faggotly ai?Prolly jewish shenanigans.
>>544447606Actually art is a reflection of your civilization. Your civilization was dead if your art is dead.
>>544448483I mean, they're attractiveMaybe if white dudes would take some notes instead of being cucked wifeguy girldads they wouldn't have to worry about birth rates
>>544447606Civilization as we know it is antithetical to art, actually.
>>544458037And your civilization is rotting shit if your art is rotting shit.
>>544447722>digitsKek
>>544451354Milenko gave him three wishes>>544451734Ironically, Rubens was more famous for painting armor (see Duke of Arundel, etc.) and portraiture generally; it is only his rediscovery/intentional misinterpretation by fat feminists that associated him with "fat his beautiful."
>>544447606"Civilization" is brown coded
>>544452006Its not a free License>>544452537>>544453336>>544453673Art, Modesty, and the Human Body: John Paul II, Benedict XVI, and FrancisArtistic beauty does not excuse the degradation of the person or the cultivation of lust. The human body is good and possesses personal dignity; precisely for that reason, its representation requires moral responsibility. Neither “it is art” nor “the body is natural” establishes that a particular depiction is morally good.Saint John Paul II: representation has moral limitsJohn Paul II addressed paintings directly. In his May 6, 1981 audience, §§4–5, he distinguished artworks that disclose the dignity and beauty of the whole person from representations that reduce the person to an object of enjoyment for satisfying concupiscence. The body itself is not the evil: the objection concerns the manner in which it is represented. The painter’s responsibility is therefore ethical as well as artistic.In his April 29, 1981 audience, §§2–5, he rejected the claim that realism authorizes artists to display everything human. The whole truth about the person includes bodily intimacy, which establishes limits artists must respect. He expressly denied that this concern is merely puritanism or hatred of the body: it arises from the body’s dignity. Artists must also avoid drawing viewers into transgressing those limits.The distinction between art forms mattersIn his April 15, 1981 audience, §§4–5, John Paul II distinguished:Painting and sculpture: the body serves as a model transformed through the artist’s creative treatment.Photography and film: the image reproduces the appearance of an actual, living person. Its circulation can detach that appearance from the person and make it available for anonymous consumption.
>>544454672>much of the nudity in the Sistine Chapel was covered up with fig leavesGenitalia was covered with fig leaves, this was less of an issue for female genitalia since it isn't as prominent and most artistic depictions didn't show much detail.But more importantly, breasts are not genitalia, and were not nearly as sexualized in the past. Exposed female breasts were not typically covered with fig leaves. The woman's hand in the painting in OP artfully serves the same purpose as a fig leaf and covers her genitalia.
>>544458820Theatre and ballet: the living person’s body itself participates directly in the artistic performance.These differences matter morally. Permission for a particular painted nude cannot simply be transferred to a photograph, film scene, or live performance. This applies his distinction; it does not mean every painting is permissible or every photograph objectionable. Each medium requires judgment about the representation, the persons involved, and the circumstances.John Paul II also imposed duties on the viewer: even a worthy artwork can be approached merely as a source of sensual gratification. Responsibility belongs to both the maker and the beholder. — May 6, 1981, §7.Benedict XVI: beauty can become an instrument of enslavementWriting as Cardinal Ratzinger in August 2002, Benedict warned against deceptive beauty that “stirs up the desire, the will for power, possession and pleasure.” He criticized technically accomplished imagery that encourages immediate gratification, while also rejecting the claim that only the crude and vulgar reveal reality truthfully. Artistic skill can serve a morally corrupt purpose.Addressing artists on November 21, 2009, he warned against seductive beauty that imprisons the viewer in possessiveness and becomes indecency or gratuitous provocation. Yet he also praised Michelangelo’s frescoes. His distinction therefore concerns authentic and degrading representations, rather than a blanket condemnation of painted nudity.Francis: beauty must serve truth and human dignityAddressing artists on June 23, 2023, Francis warned against beauty that is “futile, artificial, superficial, even dishonest.” He taught that art should awaken the spirit through goodness, justice, and truth. This concerns painting among the arts generally; it was not a specific teaching about nude paintings.
>>544458865His January 17, 2024 catechesis on lust supplies a related warning: lust consumes the other for its own pleasure, while pornography offers “satisfaction without relationship that can generate forms of addiction.” Applied to painting, this opposes presenting a person as material for lustful consumption. That is an application of his general teaching.A painting must be judged by how it presents the person, not merely by how skillfully it presents the body. Nudity and immodesty are not identical; artistic excellence and moral goodness are not identical either.Sources — official Vatican textsJohn Paul II’s teaching above is paraphrased from the Italian texts:April 15, 1981 — The human body and the distinction between artistic mediahttps://www.vatican.va/content/john-paul-ii/it/audiences/1981/documents/hf_jp-ii_aud_19810415.htmlApril 29, 1981 — Moral limits, bodily intimacy, and artistic responsibilityhttps://www.vatican.va/content/john-paul-ii/it/audiences/1981/documents/hf_jp-ii_aud_19810429.htmlMay 6, 1981 — The responsibilities of artists and viewershttps://www.vatican.va/content/john-paul-ii/it/audiences/1981/documents/hf_jp-ii_aud_19810506.htmlBenedict XVI / Cardinal Ratzinger:August 2002 — The Contemplation of Beautyhttps://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20020824_ratzinger-cl-rimini_en.htmlNovember 21, 2009 — Address to Artistshttps://www.vatican.va/content/benedict-xvi/en/speeches/2009/november/documents/hf_ben-xvi_spe_20091121_artisti.htmlFrancis:June 23, 2023 — Address to Artistshttps://www.vatican.va/content/francesco/en/speeches/2023/june/documents/20230623-artisti.htmlJanuary 17, 2024 — Catechesis on Lusthttps://www.vatican.va/content/francesco/en/audiences/2024/documents/20240117-udienza-generale.html
>>544447606The turning point of your decline was like 700 something when the moors began the cuckening. You guys got so buttfucked by Islam that inshallah is incorporated in Spanish Spanish as ojala. Mama los huevos funboy.Thx for the lust invoking image tho fr fukken saved.
>>544447722ebic simbly ebic
She's got my vote...
>>544459204You sunnivabitch you lmfao
What a hog. Bitch needs to go on a keto diet or do intermittent fasting for a few months.
>>544458900For myself personally I tend to agree with Savonarola regarding depictions in art, and that in film and TV nudity is never permissible or necessary as it is a non simulatable sin such as blasphemyFather Ripperger has good video on this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn-GNljbNs0I encourage you to see the warning of the Church fathers regarding Theatre or Saint Alphonsus Liguori on scandal
>>544447606Toes look AI.
>>544447606Were the eyebags necessary?
>>544448483>white men rather play video games and obsess over escapism, philosophy, ideology or science than mass breeding their own women and replacing brownoids by sheer number.The moment white man abandoned core tenets of the bible like be fruitful and multiply, was it's downfall.Just imagine how many whites could've been there if it didn't suffer with consequences of enlightenment, secularism, liberalism, socialism, communism, feminism and modernism...
>>544456703Who TF is that hog supposed to be
>>544447606Not all civilizations have the same concept of art. For the ancient Greeks, art was a parousia of the divine through the visual arts, while for Christian/Jewish societies, they only see art as an aesthetic object.
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>>544459619Tits too small.
>>544459647Seriously tho its almost antisemitic to depict khazar milk mommy like this ;-;
>>544459647If anything, her tits are too big. Small tits look better, faggot.
>>544459863>too bighave you never seen abigail before
>>544447722Lmao
>Anon! CK was murdered by da jews!
>>544459863I have a appreciation for both artforms.
>>544448483Have you SEEN their women? As much as I hate our whores, at least they're beautiful when they're not fucking fat.
>>544460050Phwoar.
>>544454672I already addressed your "argument" feel free to reread my previous post until you understand. Also quit projecting your own issues on me dude. Literally everything you are accusing me of is only true for yourself. >>544458820Already addressed budsee the post you quoted but actually try reading it >>544453673Really getting sick of the fucking purity spiraling and infighting both of you are causing.
>>544460050The nips aren't dark enough.
>>544454672One last post before I have to leave. The Council of Trent banned art 'exciting to lust.' It did not ban nudes. And guess who got to decide what counted as lustful? The Church, not you.Some of the paintings I posted by Titian and Peter Paul Rubens were painted famous female nudes DURING and AFTER the Council of Trent. Their biggest patrons were King Philip II of Spain (the most fanatically strict Catholic monarch in history) and Catholic Cardinals. If the Counter-Reformation Church thought reclining nudes were 'pornography,' they wouldn't have been buying them. You are literally calling 16th-century Popes and Catholic saints 'satanic' because you would rather invent your own fake religion than admit you lost an art history debate on an anime forum. Stay mad, fake Catholic. Learn the Churches actual history, not some timeline you are inventing in your head. Once again INTENT is what matters, something your autistic ass seems to not be able to comprehend. >>544459324Fr. Ripperger's video is explicitly about media consumption, live acting, and modern films. An actor stripping naked on a screen for a modern movie is a completely different moral and theological category than a 16th-century allegorical oil painting or a stone sculpture of Eve on a cathedral portal.You are totally allowed to personally follow Savonarola’s strict rigorism or Fr. Ripperger's advice for your own media consumption. But your personal spiritual preferences do not change the objective historical fact that the actual Magisterium of the Catholic Church funded, approved, and preserved classical nude art for centuries. You can't use a 21st-century homily about movies to rewrite 800 years of Church art history.
>>544457835There are two Argentinas worth of Mexicans living in your country, christcuck
>>544448483Caucasian men have always had an interest in "sharing"whether through conquest or cultural exchange, whereas inferior brown shit-skinned types lived only to eat, hunt, die for tribal shit and steal other men's women. Because of the manifestation of absolute beauty shown, these shitty-skinned individuals tend to crave the exotic that is, the white woman, they're animals whit little to no self control. The opinion of the opposite sex is irrelevant here; all women of all races behave the same way, to a greater or lesser degree, unlike men.
>Vote for mee anon...
>>544460204neither is her entire body captain obvious
>>544459204Too white
>>544447606>pit hair and pubesBASED SPANIARD
>>544447606I don’t like the Western European female face. It’s just so heavy. The English especially so. The French I’ve seen some nice girls with nice faces. But every other Western European country? No. Just off putting. Eastern European women have much nicer faces. Cuter more angelic. And it’s not cause they Asian. I’ve seen what Asian influences do to a face it’s grotesque. Although I did meet this hapa chick who had a 90% white woman face with some Asian undertones and she looked really good. But she was a hapa. I can’t risk my sons coming out all gooked up and chinky.
>>544447698There's no god. Just weak minded cattle like you who fall for the trickery of the pharaoh's magicians because you can't cope with nothingness after death
>>544447606nice pits and tits
>>544447606The porns is to blame
>>544450418I am sure doctor Goebble made sure to use nigger speak in his treatise
>>544461566Uhh why is that song trumpsta released during the apocalypse? That song was literally one of the trumpets of the apocalypse. I know he’s fucking retarded. Trump??? Hello??? T R U M PT R U M P E T R U M P E Taltho in your case, probably to the mines.
>>544461791This is what feminists want you to believe>YOUR HONOR, HE USED PORNOGRAPHY!>ADULTERY OF THE HEART. THE COURT RULES IN FAVOR OF THE WRONGED WOMAN!Trad or rebellious, you are controlled.Jews like porn, they say it's a good thing, not to destroy you, but to immunize themselves.
>>544461991Lucifer makes the porn and watches you watch it. Hes actually that person. Exactly the same thing as showing somebody your own porn video and watching them. He makes the porn websites too. He’s basically trying to sell us videos of himself eating, to make us less hungry.
>>544447722third post best post, nice GET, nice post
>>544454788Of course a yank would have an absolutely atrocious take on female aesthetics, what else can we expect from a country where manfaced Angelina Jolie, plastic Pamela Anderson and la creatura Zendaya are considered the pinnacle of good looks
>>544447714This. The decline was when art no longer required any skill, for example that talentless hack Picasso
>>544463829https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_CharityPicasso could do social realism, he was just bored to death by it.
>>544464015picasso fucking sucks bad, that shit is demoralization
>>544450632Men and women look similar, that's why women wear makeup and shave their legs and grow their hair out.
>>544447606upvote for boobies
>>544449567sovl
>>544454788Disgusting phillistine. You deserve to live in nothing but goyslop.
>>544447722I love you Anon I laughed
>>544454672>You are a liar. You are a horrible person. Every single word that comes pouring out of your cunt mouth is false.im sorry but i can't take the opinions of a person who seethes with rage and uses vile language over an argument seriously. you very clearly have numerous issues you need to work out and are not a good role model to represent the church. the anon you are debating has very clearly won and it shows
>>544454788Please don't embarrass us, Ameribro
>>544447606Up till around 1990, a completely randomly chosen young white woman would in all probability have really a pretty nice body.
>1pbtid coomerbait>200+ replieswow
>>544461566Even if you fear death there is no reason to cope it with jewish fairytales. I would rather believe I go to Valhalla with chad vikings aryan warriors than spent my eternity with niggers and worship a jew
>>544447698because the minute we took the jewish off ramp from the hellene freeway, they knew this creation was cashed. just a matter of waiting to die now.
>>544447606You can generate any porn images you want with AI.
>>544455832It's an overbite
>>544450208For me, it's Gym Roastie by Rembrandt
>>544459397>muh biblefuck off kike. Go peddle your debt religion somewhere else. The bible destroyed the roman empire, and it destroyed europe. The bible gave you dark ages, the european soul gave you cathedrals.
>>544447606>furry armpitsdo spanish women really
>>544470055Nobody csres except other ai porn makers.nits... kinda gay
>>544447606wow we can post naked women by calling it art in le pol!
>>544447722Lel
>>544447606> it's not porn, it's art!Stupid coomer>>544447722Based
>>544447722fucking kek
>>544460944this was inevitable
>>544448483By Allah I'm gonna coom
>>544447722
>>544455011This. I'm surprised nobody said it.Spain has been in decline for 3 centuries at that point. If anything, it's close from post WW2 recovery that must be the only time in hundreds of year that Spain wasn't in decline. It actually make me wonder about Spanish culture and how it was impacted by constant decline.
>>544447722how can saar kiss?!!
>>544447606Cue the retards calling her fat….
>>544448957Lol stupid bitch
>>544459204Tits arent full and saggy enough
>>544447606Its crazy how even "back then" women were whores who were willing enough to get naked for a pay check
>>544448483fresh insane bongoloid subhuman monkey cope straight outta sainsbury's restroom
>>544447722Fantastic get, a good way to start my day Saaar.
>>544447606yeah it's.....not greatthis one needs to spend less time on color and more time on linesmodern autocompletes can shit out work of this anatomical correctness lolbut nah the decline happened waaaaay before thatby the painting of guernica art had been dead and looted by charlatans for decades alreadyand it started with a blind talentless frenchman with a sob story
>>544452006Puritans are subhuman and they were rightly persecuted in many parts of Europe.Anti-nudity and anti-sexual views are products of a fundamentalist mind and belong to the most backward shitholes of the modern world.
>>544449773impressionism and everything that came after is trash made for sale not for looking atthere's more meaning in the frame and blurb than the works of rothko and anything to do with the words abstract, expressionism, impressionism
>>544450430the proportions are all to fuck everywherelegit looks like he used different models and poorly painted all three into this perspective violating misshapen humanoid
>>544447722Checked and keked
>>544451182nudity isn't inherently sexual, coomerand for that matter it's not everyone that gets aroused just by looking
>>544447722bitch lasagna
>>544449638Make her open her legs
>>544447606Built for bbc
>>544454194Didn't happen, you don't know where you are, first figure that out. It isn't what they tell you in school, read the Book of Enoch. It was taken/removed from the Bible for a reason. The Fallen are among us.
>>544447606sexo
