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Do people with higher levels of education tend to keep their homes cleaner because they’re better at creating and maintaining order, while people with less education may care less about keeping their surroundings clean (almost like wild animals that are perfectly content living in a messy environment) and therefore be more likely to end up living in what you’d call a filthy, cluttered home?

This is also related to broader societal issues. I’m not just talking about individuals. The same logic can be applied at the national level when comparing how organized and orderly developed countries are versus less developed countries.
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No, I think it’s just discipline and motivation not intelligence.
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>>544467590
You could be retarded and still clean your house, it is simply a matter of not being lazy and ill-disciplined.
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you guys can fix her, i'm good
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>>544467590
My wife and i are geniuses and we're always mere moments from entering hoarders territory
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>>544467800
She does it for easy attention and gibs. Nothing to fix, just a typical chick by 21st century standards.
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>>544467590
There’s probably a better correlation with psychosis, not IQ.
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>>544467590
She did it for the simp views
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I work in home automation/security and do regular house visits and some of the dumbest, lowest IQ, most retarded people I know had ridiculously clean homes. Multi-million dollar homes with mini-golf in the backyard. I have pics to back this up.

These are the type of people that would call somebody right away if their monitor was off thinking their entire computer was broken, these are unironically people that would call tech support if they forgot their password to their WiFi network. Some of them have trouble with using a remote on their TV. But their homes are pretty fucking clean, likely because they hire maids and/or because they spent half their time ingesting toxic fumes from all the cleaning they do.

Women were easily some of the worst offenders. I've been called nonstop by this one woman married to an accountant because her camera mount was crooked. The bitch literally paid me $500 to come out and move a camera for 10 minutes. Immaculately cleaned house.
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>>544467709
Thats not much different from testable IQ.
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>>544467590
>no qt squalor maiden to keep chained to a radiator while you explain to her you are going to bathe her with the garden hose
the bar is literally on the ground of women
look at how effortlessly cute this woman is, she just needs a bath and a husband she can't legally divorce

all you have to do as a woman is not be fat, I'd help her clean her apartment if I could impregnate her
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
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>>544467823
your wife is a fat stupid bitch fuck you
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>>544467590
maybe this would work on a non weeaboo website where we don't know many nips live in "filthy, cluttered" homes
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>>544467927
Not really. I’ve gone through phases in my life where i was a slob and allowed my room to get messy, and I’ve gone through phases where i was a total clean freak who kept my entire house spotless for years. During that entire time, my IQ did not change
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>>544467914
to be fair their houses could be clean because they hire maids and stuff like that, which would be an obfuscating factor in OP's question
I guess if he wants to make it more accurate he should clarify like income range
Is someone with a 50k a year job and a clean home smarter than a guy with a 50k a year job that lives in filth?
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I always clean my room and make my bed because jordan peterson told me to
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>>544467849
>>544467895

but it seems her life hasn't been getting better and her room has been terrible since 2023 based on her account..

https://www.tiktok.com/@shirokumatyandaisuki4444
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>>544467958
this
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>>544468049
jordan peterson is a hypocrite, he would wash his penis but he would never ever ever wash his foreskin
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>>544468150
Juden Peterstein is a Shabbos goy. He doesn’t have a foreskin.
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>>544467590
>Damn bish you live like that
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>>544467823
>My wife and i are geniuses
sure you are. I bet you're both life long democrat voters too
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>>544468208
ameribro... thats the joke
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>>544467590
This is the stupidest fucking question I've seen all day.. why do you care? What problem are you trying to solve by asking this question? Fucking chink
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>>544467998
>where we don't know many nips live in "filthy, cluttered" homes

are you a sir origin britsh filth with inferiority complex?
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>>544467785
OP is a chink

CHINK CHONG BING BONG WING WONG CHICKEN NOODLE
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>>544467590
Don't confuse education with intelligence
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>>544468253
CHINK CHONG BING BONG WING WONG CHICKEN NOODLE DUMPLINGS
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>>544467590
>Do people with higher levels of education tend to keep their homes cleaner because they’re better at creating and maintaining order
No, it just means you’re autistic
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>>544468000
Trips ensure triple didgit IQ
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>>544467590
that is one massive bug
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>>544468308
CHINK CHONG BING BONG WING WONG CHICKEN NOODLE DUMPLINGS
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>>544468317
>that is one massive bug
Yeah she is pretty tall for an Asian girl
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>>544467590
a clean desk is a sign of an empty mind.
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>>544468253
No
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>>544468329
Don’t (you) me. Memeflag jeet
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Seeing that bear in a plastic bag is sad.
That girl obviously treasures her teddy bear so much she keeps it in a bag to stay clean.
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>>544468443
That bitch is a BPD psychopath.
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>>544467590
is that why they're called bug women?
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>>544468494
imagine the pussy stench
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>>544468408
AWWWWWE SOOOOOOOOO HIYAH!! CHING CHONG KARATE CHOP!


HIYAH! CHOP!
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>>544467590
>>544468000
>>544467927

You're talking to a low IQ here, anon. Dude isn't smart enough to realize that just because he was dirty at times doesn't mean he has low IQ. Probably doesn't realize high IQ people do dumb things.

>what is a spectrum?
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>>544468527
Imagine her ruining your life after the post not clarity sinks in.
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>>544468276
>>544468237
>>544468329
>>544468343
>>544468494
>>544468529

Sir....
SARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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>>544468584
OOOOHHH SOOOO MY EYES ARE SLANTED
MEEEEE SOOOO CHINKY!


CHINKY CHINKY WING WONG CHICKEN NOODLE
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>>544467590
It's different if you work and pay for it, or if it's free. Welfare folks have no incentive to work or take care of what's free. They expect a new set tomorrow. This goes for NEETS too. The ones I have come across, they keep their hair long, and associate the overuse of hair conditioner with cleanliness. They always forget that the real metric is how the teeth in their mouth look. Garbage is garbage...
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>>544467590
Here's an IQ test for you:
>There are three barber shops in your town
>two barbers have neat and tidy hair
>one barber has "just fuck my shit up" hair
>who do you visit?

...
The moral of the story is two-fold: 1) sometimes people are so busy that they don't have time for themselves, and 2) reliance on the niggers that do have time to take care of superficial shit could result in your downfall
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>>544468571
Imagine your life being better without her in it
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>>544467590
discipline and intelligence are not related. intelligent people actually tend to be more disorganized and lazy because their intelligence forgives it.
>>544467709
And yes motivation also.. intelligent people don't even care about shit. They just tend to be happy with what they have and can survive by their wits. People who are motivated are usually driven by fear.
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>>544468668
Yeah it's almost like OP is a chink working for a government agency for some foreign Asian country and they're trying to pot off their used up old women onto westerners.

Like a green card scam
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>>544467590
We can just burn it all down and then i'll help her start all over
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>>544468719
pawn off *
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>>544467590
are those bed bugs or cockroaches? need a nip ITT to explain
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>>544467590
might be a correlation within the span of normie IQs
but once past ~140 IQ, maybe not.

this is the smartest guy on Earth -- do you think his place is sparkling?

same with artists: life totally focussed on beauty and aesthetics but their studios look like a tornado hit them
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>>544467590
Nope. I'm a certified genius (Mensa >136). My room/house has been/is messy.

I just don't want to clean it. Call it lazy, I don't care.
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>>544468527
I would take her in the hoard pile
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>>544468108
Why would her life get better in the videos? It's how she pays for time to have sex with Chad. It's all kabuki theater, bro.
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>>544467590
There's a correlation
>>544467709
There's a correlation though. It's not absolute, but there's a correlation
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>>544468719
It’s AI slop
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>>544467590
It depends on the type of mess.
I've seen some gross ass homes.
But my buddy who is a legit artist has shit everywhere. Like last time I went there he had like those rubber alligator toys. The ones that are real meaty and heavy. I asked about it and he just said "isn't that awesome!?" And we went back to watching alien. There's junk like that on e every surface but dude is funny as shit and talented as hell. Very smart. Used to take my anatomy books to learn to draw.
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>>544468769
Yup just covered artists. It's part of the inspiration I think
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>>544468812
>mensa
lol
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>>544468893
No, I don't think it is. And I'm really good at picking that shit up
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>>544468898
That was the best gay lover story I've ever read
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>>544467590
its like a double bell curve. idiots=messy, normal=cleanly. genius homes are messy but then there is god level genius whos home is clean, its the level i seek to achieve.
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>>544468108
She’s always very clean and well dressed
My theory is it’s a relatives place that died that she inherited and shes been using it as a backdrop for vids to baits simps but doesn't live there
If you think about it’s perfect bait
Cute girl living in squalor
Simps can’t resist
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>>544469124
>to baits simps
This guy gets it
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>>544469124
Why does dumb male brain fall victim to this so easily
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>>544469009
You can’t tell what’s real anymore sweetness lol
It’s rk9 having some fun or it’s real but she’s way to put together to be a hoarder and she doesn't live there
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>>544469241
>You can’t tell what’s real anymore sweetness lol
> Let me tell you what's real and what's not and what you perceive and what you don't perceive

Oh okay. How about you go kill yourself retard
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>>544469162
>>544469234
She’s rolling in simp bucks and of course a Japanese girl would think of something like that and never even approach whoredom by simply being a damsel in distress/ curiosity on line
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>>544469234
Because the survival of the species requires men to be attracted to women, whether it's logical or not. If men were to really consider the situation, they would not interact with women at all, and then the species would go extinct, so there's a built-in protection mechanism which takes the form of male desire for the female form.
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>>544467590
She has a parasite infection. Give her dog dewormer.
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>>544469391
Yeah I want you to know how things work. It's easy to spot. First of all, women are never homeless and women never live in conditions like that. Women are always pampered, so if a woman is presenting yourself as being disheveled and on the edge of homelessness. She's fucking scamming you for money.
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>>544469310
How can you tell it’s not AI
All wait
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>>544468856
>>544469124
>>544469162
>>544469234

it's good you guys see things critically. very nice.
but sometimes you guys sound so dumb.

There’s been a lot of news about my girlfriend, including reports of unpaid rent, forced eviction, court proceedings, and arrest.
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>>544469444
> Everything is AI unless you prove it's not
Why does every thread have one of these fucking assholes in it. This has to be an agitation bot.
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>>544469400
>If men were to really consider the situation, they would not interact with women at all
Born to simp
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>>544469470
Bot.
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>>544469470
GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO FEED HER DOG DEWORMER TO GET RID OF PARASITES. If she doesnt have one then nothing happens. If she does suddenly bugs gross her out instead of making her horny.
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>>544467590
Dam she looks cleaner then jeeta princesses living in mini mansions here.
The hell kinda living they doing in their house.
The girl here literally has roaches yet the perfect skin
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>>544469470
>There’s been a lot of news about my girlfriend, including reports of unpaid rent, forced eviction, court proceedings, and arrest.
Well we will just have to take your word for it yoshi even if she’s fucked in the head she’s still making money off being a degen living in squalor
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>>544467823
So autism or some mental health issuez
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>>544468208
What a complete bone head.
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>>544467823
Thats just modern day living and consuming. Everyone is only a few weeks away becoming a horder if they stopped cleaning
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>>544469480
>unless you prove it's not
My point was you can’t really tell
It could be real sure
it could not be
the internet has no authenticity now AI can produce 4k video with audio
They where trained on TikTok and Instagram videos so this kind of stuff is easy peasy for it to reproduce as long as it’s not to surreal or unbelievable there’s no way to tell with any certainty because AI reached parity over a year ago
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>>544469538
she lost in court
maybe mental issue
I guess she had the motivation to keep up appearances from time to time, which is unusual.
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>>544469815
最強ちゃん? why is she called that
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>>544469815
She needs a white guy to straighten her out
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>>544467590
stupid people: live like jeets
midwits/bugmen: spotless homes
smarter people: minimalist lifestyle, less to clean
genius iq: live like jeets
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>>544467872
You would know huh psycho
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>>544467590
>Do people with higher levels of education tend to keep their homes cleaner because they’re better at creating and maintaining order,
Slob with an IQ of 135 here. No, I'm a slob because I have massive ADHD and can never focus on cleaning long enough to make a dent.

If you're talking about populations, then you can compare India to either Nepal or Bhutan and see that it doesn't hold true for those, either. For that matter, compare China to South Korea. It's a deeper cultural issue.
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yes, but not the way you mean OP. I think intelligent people who struggle against less intelligent people can end up feeling depressed and deciding nothing matters, allowing their own environment to go to pot because their emotions overwhelm their rationality.
The person in this video is clearly aware that she's living in terrible circumstances of her own creation and not very happy about it, but feels overwhelmed and unable to realign. I've seen quite a few videos by cleaning companies who specilize in helping clean out the homes of hoarders and depressives, and resetting their environment is often sufficient to help them reset their emotional barometer.
tl'dr i can fix her
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>>544467590
It's your traditional bell curve. Only midwits keep tidy. The really dumb and the really smart are messy. You're a midwit, bro.
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Even in a state of complete chaos and destruction of her own making
Japanese women can still spark joy
Why are they so powerful
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>>544467800
It doesn't even matter who atp. You're gonna get screwed anyway
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>>544467590
dam bitch throw that shit out lazy ass retard
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>>544468527
Don't tempt me
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>>544467872
Probably more of a correlation of you being a lying pussy coward that told Americans they’re all free then implementing communst bullsht over and over then you being a weak cowardly fag that refuses accountability and says they’re having a psychosis when you’re a literal lying homo retard

Only reason you are for open borders is because you’re the worlds gayest cocksucker and can’t get enough third world dicks to suck

absolute disgusting fag
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>>544467590
Nope. The absolute smartest people I have met have the messiest workshops. Tools, wires, components, instruments, just scattered everywhere.
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>>544471313
it belittles them to do such menial work. You should be helping them so they can cure cancer.
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>>544467590
My apartment is cluttered, but it's clean, I meticulously disinfect everything that comes inside of it. Haven't gotten sick in years. I try to throw a bulk of my garbage every 2-3 weeks.
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>>544471373
>bulk of my garbage every 2-3 weeks
jesus man... clean your fucking house bro. its not that hard.
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>>544471363
No, too busy cooming.
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>>544467958
Death wing? I love this game
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>>544468108
Is just show. She saw she can get attention with it, 300k fucking followers because she's a foid sloth. Literal hellscape
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>>544467590
I've never had roaches...ever. I've moved into a couple of places where I saw a few at the beginning, but in time they always disappear. It's really just a matter of being somewhat clean. I'm not anything approaching a near freak, but I don't understand people who can deal with rotting things and actual squalor.
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>>544471410
My garbage is localized on two specific bins, and perishables in the freezer. Aside from shitloads of empty containers of peanut butter, assortment of nuts, and bottles of condiments it probably wouldn't even register as junk until you notice the containers are all empty. I also bleach the floor and appliances of the unit daily. So the room constantly smells of bleach in spite of the clutter. The one piece of clutter I don't clean at all is the pile where I keep my documents.
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>>544467590
Nah, extremely messy people like hoarders are just mentally ill. My ex's father was a software engineer who worked for a defense contractor for 300k a year and their house was a complete shit show.

It might even be the case that OCD-like mental illnesses are more common in higher IQ than lower IQ individuals. That's definitely the case for certain types of brainwashing, identity protective cognition, etc. because high IQ people are better at coming up with """logical""" internal rationalizations for the bullshit they believe.
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>>544468000
I go through sloppy phases too. Mainly when I'm working my ass off and exhausted. But I could never deal with like rotting shit laying around or filth. I'm mainly just messy.
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>>544467948
Ground level? We´ll need the entire GDP of India worth of shovels if we´re ever going to find the bar.
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>>544469973
what kind of retarded jeet response was that?
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>>544470842
Who are you talking to?
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>>544468108
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>>544468584
ill take chinks over any1 else any time bro
>>544468623
kys jew/jeet/glowie/transfag, in the most gruesome way possible faggot, even better if you live stream it so you parents can watch and finally be thankful that your no longer a burden on them
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>>544468655
Cut you own hair? Its really not that hard. Only get tricky at the back of the head, but that is what the camera on your phone is for.

What now atheist?
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>>544467590
I made it most of the way through a PhD education when I was younger but I really can't stand to own more than a bed and a desk. Few clothes. Plate, bowl, cup. Physical stuff is mental clutter so I'm always tossing shit I just bought.
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>>544471717
>SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR YOU ARE JEET SAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRR
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>>544471636
software engineers who make 300K a year should just spend fucking 10K a year on a maid. I don't see what the big fucking deal is.
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>>544467590
It is correlated but it's not something you learn, it's that people who are more neat preset work that gets higher grades in school, so they succeed in education
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>>544467590
I'm a genius but was almost like this for about 10 years because of depression. Shit sucks man.
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>>544472070
He's not a ceo, man
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>>544472296
it only costs like 300 bucks a week to have your house cleaned. She spends 2 hours on it a week. The fat fuck making 300k/yr can afford it.
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>>544471502
Really makes you think and that’s just one platforn
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>>544467590
clean homes only means there's women to clean
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>>544467849
this
and you retards itt are giving her exactly what she wanted
you're even worse than simps

this is why the ancient rule of the internet was created: there are no women on the internet; tits + timestamp or gtfo
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>>544473064
Based
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>>544470291
pic rel
yes, it really is that simple and that easy for foids
you literally cannot have too much contempt for fat bitches
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>>544469905
Probably because she has must have the immune system of a jeet living in a bug-infested trash heap like that, that's one form of "strength"
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>>544467590
Yes it's linked to IQ because high IQ is also linked to deference of gratification, second and third order thinking, abstract thinking, hypothetical thinking and future thinking (ie future planning). One of the reasons people argue Northern Europeans have much higher IQs than Africans is because the former had to prepare for harsh winters throughout the brunt of their evolutionary development which selected for people with the ability for future planning. When you totally shitify your living space, you are inviting bug infestations, mould, disease, illness and infection, allergies and all sorts of shit, not to mention lack of maintenance leads to faster decay and a state of disrepair. It's harder than ever to purchase homes, those who have them, if they have any sense, take care of them, because it's likely the only roof they have over their head. Even a lot of animals won't fuck up where they live; that's supposed to be your abode, your place of comfort where you feel safe and yes it takes effort to maintain, it's not strictly a laziness/motivation proposition but rather exercising the bare minimum of forethought as to what your situation might be two or three years down the line if you don't pick up after your own disgusting self.
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>>544467590
Please consult the Chart of Human Evaluation to see the rather strong correlation between a messy home and a disturbed mind.
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>>544472070
That's not how it works. They're hoarders, they don't want to get rid of any of it.
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>>544470291
They can't, you are just thirst personified and have never even talked to a woman in real life so your brain goes into overdrive when you see some creepy bitch like this with her fucked up teeth protruding from her maw making a sinister expression. "Guys, look at this angel!" Go have a little tug and rejoin the thread with your head clear.
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>>544467590
The most intelligent people I met we're usually living in total chaos, probably having no time to waste on cleaning
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>>544467590
There is zero correlation between education and IQ as you so clumsily infer.
No one is hiring useless paper any more.
Fell for it again.
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>>544467590
Theres "messy" and "cluttered"
And then there's "dirty" and "gross".

One of them is generally clean, just has objects everywhere. The other has trash, dirt, and everything that comes with those two everywhere.
The least cluttered person i know will leave dirty dishes and food piled up in his sink for a week and won't clean it until the smell starts to make it all the way to his bedroom or the ants start to become an issue, doesn't use deoderant or take showers very often, and has mold growing on his shower curtain.
The most cluttered person i know is a germaphobe who showers twice a day and does not have a trashcan inside his house - he walks that shit straight to the outdoor garbage bin every time, and bleaches his shower twice a month. He just is an autist with a ton of computer and electronics parts absolutely everywhere.
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>people with higher levels of education tend to keep their homes cleaner because they’re better at creating and maintaining order
Correct. However, the horseshoe theory applies as well: When someone becomes mad scientist / Tesla level smart, they will be so obsessed with their intellectual pursuits that they begin to approach the dishevelment levels of stupid folk.
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>>544474795
Clutter means more surface area for dirt and bacteria. People with a lot of clutter will get roaches and wigs even if they're "clean".
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>>544474785
>There is zero correlation between education and IQ as you so clumsily infer.
Lol that's an easily disprovable lie.
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>>544474735
Don’t you have to be run over by a vengeful Muslim in a delivery van?
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>>544467590
i think it's more about the face
if you often have visitors, you wouldnt want to embarrass yourself with your mess
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>>544474916
Isn't running over people with cars more of a christian thing?
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>>544474953
nobody got run over in that event. He hit a car that had whatsherface standing on top of it, and she fell off.
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>>544474953
You’re missing the point
The anon I was replying to
the part where she takes the teddy bear in the zip lock bag and shakes it and does that head nod while smiling and chinking her eyes
it failed to endure anon because he is empty and has no soul
like a clockwork orange
Which was kind of my point
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>>544467590
I say there is a difference between "messy" and "filthy"
But I have been in the houses of smart people.that arw filthy and dumb people that are spotless
Idk
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>>544474812
What is happening in this video
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>>544467590
Why has the Japanese authorities not institutionalized this poor woman?
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>>544475299
What's a soul, and how do you know he doesn't have one?
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>>544467590
>>544468108
>>544470291
>>544474812
>>544474916
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>>544469470
>unpaid rent, forced eviction, court proceedings, and arrest.
Once your income is big enough these are just costs for her to invest her simps more into her life and earn more
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>>544475006
>migger lies
Fuck off liar
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>>544467590

why are /pol/tards obsessed with the jewish magic number kek
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>>544475705
Stop obssesed with the polish gypsy first
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>>544475832
we accept your concession btw
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>>544467914
How does a low IQ person get a multimillion dollar house and all that?
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>>544467590
I think it’s the upbringing. If you come from a broken household and a shitty family that didn’t clean you might end up that way as well. I know cases where the opposite is true too, the children tend to be hyper-clean, almost obsessive with cleaning. In my family we had a ritual to clean the house every Saturday. It was annoying at first but I kept that routine since I moved out and i feel an inch when I miss it. You take the early morning to clean the toilet, kitchen and so on and then you are free for the rest of the day to do whatever you want. If you never had a routine or if your mom cleaned all your shit you’ll most likely never do it.
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>>544468108
Anon, you guys constantly get sympathy baited by "tired salesman" videos on jewtube. Why would you believe that it’s different here. Japanese are good at scamming
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cleaning is for goy slaves only. oh and niggers too
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>>544468049
>I always clean my room and make my bed because jordan peterson told me to
kek
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>>544468150
>jordan peterson is a hypocrite, he would wash his penis but he would never ever ever wash his foreskin
he doesn't have a foreskin, retard
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>>544467590
i want her to be my wife
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>>544467590
Why are slants the most disgusting & inhuman primates on the planet?
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>>544476737
>When your girl eats some freaky shit but you love her anyway
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>>544467590
It's difficult sometimes working 60 hours a week but I don't see how people can relax in an untidy house. I was my sheets once a week and it's a treat to have nice smelling silk sheets. Got my workbench that's untidy because it's perpetually in the middle of something but how hard is it to keep everything else clean and in the right place if you do it right away? Takes a minute. I can't believe woman memed themselves out of keeping a house clean and firing out foals in exchange for making powerpoints for the third largest urinal cake distributor in the midwest for 60k a year. I'd do this and have like 22 hours downtime and get to hang out with the kids and make them good people but nah, that's super oppression.
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>>544467590
please tell me this is fake Tetsuo. some of the smartest people i know are messy, but this is depression if it is real
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>>544467590
>The same logic can be applied at the national level when comparing how organized and orderly developed countries are versus less developed countries
That seems to be merely the consequence of developed countries having enough money to allocate towards maintaince.
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>>544468769
> Smartest guy
> A fucking jew who contributed absolutely nothing but mathematical abstractions declared genius by his fellow jews
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>>544468671
>intelligent people don't even care about shit. They just tend to be happy
Nah, there is a marked correlation between stupidity and happiness with studies corroborating it, the dumber the people the happier they are. Depression, existential anguish etc are more common among smarter people.
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>>544470291
You are so easily fooled by social media vs what reality looks like. What you see there is someone with a dead soul and given up on everything. To live like she does, it demands something out of you that you don't care about life. And to publish it online to have simps all over her to enable that shit - man, the world has gone fucking dark for real.

I fucking hope its fake. This is beyond disgusting just not cleaning, with all of them bugs it's in infestation and rotten food or something. To live near this person, them insects breed in there, get their food from somewhere, this is such next level living in filth.

What do you think her pussy and asshole smells like? Shit, I bet that thought turned you on, I hate you simps so much.. Why do you need to overenable Women!?
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There's no correlation, in fact high iq often comes with disregard of such retarded concepts as cleaning. It's womens work
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>>544476986
>I don't know anything about other people and I work 60 hours a week!
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>>544467590
true geniuses have messy homes
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>>544477707
you're a fucking faggot. probably some woman jealous.
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I used to be messy
Never gave a fuck
Told myself I was too complicated to be doing such menial tasks as I sat around eating doritos playing vidya jacking off and having mountain dew cans scattered about the house

Had an AC guy come over to fix my ac
his brother came with him as a helper
As he was fucking with the thermostat I saw his brother slowly looking around my house like
>What in the holy hell is this shit?
He never said a word
That really did it for me
Since then I dropped close to 10k on interior decorating/flooring recessed ceiling and plan on having the kitchen ripped out and remodeled another 20k
I constantly walk around wiping shit down
Feels much better
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>watching some dumb cunt living in abject filth with obvious vermin making food.
sounds like a (You) problem
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>>544467709
>living with visible insects and vermin
You have instincts that make you naturally revolted by these things. You have to go full retard to accept their presence in your living space, doubly so to knowingly attract them and justify it with laziness.
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>>544478019
You are a fucking untermenschen chink, who gives a shit what you sub-human think.
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>>544477707
>the world has gone fucking dark for real.
the biggest difference is that there are cameras on everything, and the most extreme attention seekers are always going to be the people you see the most. humans are bad at comprehending the scale of how many humans there are, and what the attention economy funnels to the front.

you aren't seeing normal people on social media.
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>>544469124
>My theory is it’s a relatives place that died that she inherited and shes been using it as a backdrop for vids to baits simps but doesn't live there
>If you think about it’s perfect bait
>Cute girl living in squalor
>Simps can’t resist
She got Evicted last year for not paying rent for years, she did make a video of her "cleaning up" the bathroom before she left.
She's also looking very frumpy these days, and I don't think she has any simps.
I'll check Simpcity, if she doesn't have one should I make a topic thread for her, where else is her content except on Tiktok?
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>>544478510
You are totally correct. It was bad already before TikTok but the aftermath of that - holy fuck. Devastating.
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>>544467590
Diogene can hit anyone, anywhere, anytime.
It isn't a cool mental sickness to have, imagine having yourself so damaged while growing up that you cannot even seperate yourself from used trash because it is your.
How dreadful.
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no some people just like it that way
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>>544467590
You only clean your house if you expect guests, and especially of opposite sex. Career singles don't give a fuck.
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>>544477707
>What do you think her pussy and asshole smells like?
Stop it anon!!!
I’m relaxing
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>>544467590
No, some geniuses are incredibly disorganized in fact it is a trope.
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you need to hire a polish women to clean your house up every now and then
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>>544467590
Considering it was my idea to put thrusters or a small jet engine on a gas powered lexus and then they copy my idea and put it on a shitbox Elon musk mobile I would say you're on to absolutely nothing. I scrapped the idea, also, because I have a brain.
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>>544475869
angel investors
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>>544478580
Holy Kek that vid
Am I a bad person for enjoying it anon
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>>544478176
>>544467927
I’m a high iq autist and was raised by messy parents. I wouldn’t let my shit get quite that bad as the video as I hate bugs enough to be motivated to do something well before that point, but I do get pretty bad. If I’m living somewhere that lets me have guests then I’m considerably cleaner, but when I can’t have guests I am extremely messy
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>>544467959
Came to post this.
Beaten to it.
Facts nvke!
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>>544478809
It's ok to laugh at the clown show.
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i simply just dont care until its racid but even that you get used to so you dont really notice till its really gnarly been to the point jd have to step on trash to move around idk but even so idk

weird tho if im somewhere else i always feel like cleaning up for them and keeping it tidy
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>>544476200
Ha ha hah!
>i durnt ged it
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>>544467590
WHAT.

THE.

FUUUUCCCCK.
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>>544467590
No.
I used to work in housing at a university.
Some of the smartest people will be nasty and the barely able to think and walk at the same time clean.

Even different races have wildly different levels of cleanliness among themselves.
About a quarter or so of black (again, in college) are fastidiously clean. My house is dirty compared to theirs. The rest...well...

It mostly comes down to how they were raised.
Did their parents beat the filth out of them or not?
Of course too much just causes the trauma response of hoarding.
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>>544474885
There's a huge overlap between iq test scores and performance in the current education industry.
There is also zero overlap between performance in current academia and intelligence.

By the logic of dumb brown child i can assure you that the current offering of iq tests do nothing to differentiate intelligence but are excellent predictors to successful participation in the industrial society.
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I would take her on the bug covered trash pile and share a banana smoothie after I expelled my essence into her tight wet sashimi
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iq is a manmade scale
leople dunno how to write marmalade znx people act like they stupid or dumb
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>>544467590
You’re suppose to learn to clean up after yourself and healthy eating habits as a child.
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>>544467590
Yall understand that this is fake, right?
That this house in just for her TV show
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>>544469814
Even before AI such videos could be produced.
All you really need is a model and than have the computer impose on it, whatever you wish to impose upon it.
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>>544477707
>What do you think her pussy and asshole smells like?
maybe smell like cheezu. how about smells of swedish pussies? have you ever become a sniffing dog?
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>>544479121
You're literally just making shit up and deluding yourself into feeling confident about the mythology you invented. Your average 6th grader old has more rigorous epistemic standards than whatever your shamelessly dunning-kruger post was supposed to represent.
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I know some smart people who're messy, men who live alone and likely had their mother's do all the tidying up. Almost all poor people I know are messy though, including the women.
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>>544468655
You're a retard and gay if you pay another man to cut your hair
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>>544479882
>iq test performance = academic performance
>academic performance = social success
Therefore
>iq test performance = social success prediction
Also
>academic performance ≠ intellectual brilliance/ intelligence/ genius
Therefore
>iq test performance ≠ intelligence

Don't worry big man. Nobody is down playing your massive iq score. Just applying a liddle logic to the facts.
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>>544467590
If there is it's a very loose one.

I did notice there's a strong correlation between brainlets having zero book cases and/or zero interesting/good books whatsoever and having those hallmark hyper-clean, nearly empty interiors. If they do a lot of webcasts, they're less rooms for living in and more like a quasi film set, these days.

I'm sure that's conducive to something or other but intelligence probably isn't one of them.

There's probably something like a Bell-curve going on here.
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>>544479813
Based jap poster
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>>544478176
This. My shit's messy as hell but bugs are killed on sight and I don't leave food around to attract them, that shit's just common sense. Never understood how anybody could live otherwise.
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Saikyou chan
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>>544468671
This anon gets it
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>>544483318
i do notice this thing where lets say theres a 1 to 10 grading system
you might get a 7 doing nothing

someone else studies day and night and gets a 9.5

hes supposedly smarter than you etc, in certain ways yeah sure. but that guy gonna end up your doctor
not that the first guy should but the way people judge intellect is off,like the retards try to be smart and smart ppl often dont try or are too busy freely thinking about questioning other things
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No, its a fucking mental illness that decides it.

Plus poor people are hoarders, ive been poor alot of my life and had to have roommates, alot of poors hoarde or convince themselves they cant throw anything out.

The mental stress and insanity that comes with living in these conditions is a real thing and turns you into a rabid dog,
Some of them will gift you interesting but useless junk every few weeks, or go out and get say a piece of bedroom furniture you dont want or need then act completely confused as to why you dont want a mismatched room.

We should honestly just beat hoarders with baseball bats and light them on fire in town squares while doing CCCP level meme denunciations of them.
IQ doesnt decide it, but the mental effects of being forced to live in a hoarded environment are worth a Google.

Also 30-50% People hoarde or are messy and its very,very rare to see people keep clean/meticulously clean houses.

If you refuse to "help them" move things around they will go nuclear and stab you in the back or fuck with your shit or go insane.
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you really have it people that study 20 hours to be supposedly smarter than you by a lil bit

dunno who is the retardedd dingus
but society is fit for such folk idk
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>>544478176
My mother was a hoarder that lived in absolute filth, shit that makes most of the TV series mild. She was also 100% smarter than you by a large margin, sorry but statistically you have no chance. It's mental illness and a mixture of laziness and habit. At some point in their life something happened, maybe they saw a roach crawl out of the sub and they said "this is fine." Then it got worse, and worse. Then one day there are bags of literal trash sitting on what was once the kitchen table underneath an avalanche of loose and bagged trash. The garbage may be 50ft away from her porch and she goes outside regularly but this is fine.
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>>544471636
Successful people are hoarder too, hence why its a mental illness.

We call it "toxic fidget hands" where you are always starting things and never finishing them, you see it alot in people who claim to have construction skills or work in the trades where their house is done in phases and incomplete and they always have these grand old stories about how their going to finish it someday.

Then they move their hoarde infront of their half finished job and nothing ever gets done. Its a mental illness and a disease, you will never convince me otherwise.

I also get to go inside peoples houses for work and the commonality of it is higher than you think. The worse ones are the ones who put things infront of their house, or yard because they want people to "see" their broken project cars that would have ran if they weren't neglected.
They also will do things in an illogical manner while mentally convincing themselves its the correct way, or that "its what people see(TM)" while having a hoarded/construction site for a house.

Again, for the anons who take the time to read this, I would again like to take the time to say hoarders should be beaten and then lit on fire in public after CCCP style denounciations, the mental stress and grief they cause others is a real thing, ontop of their psychological "take up every space and force people to constantly move things around to get anything done" disease.

Like, its physically impossible to do dishes or cook so it forces you into a situation you either spend 6x the time, or you just go spend all your money on take out and thusly never get ahead or save up enough money to get out.

And they will scratch the fuck out of your cookware to deliberately destroy it, i used to enjoy cooking, I havent actually fucking cooked a real meal that isnt meal preps in years now, ive just completely given up in any capacity and eat goy slop or easy to cook, simple ingredients meals.


"Muh ocd" people should just straight up be shot.
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>>544483898
Yeah ive met some successful people who are hoarders and famously one local politician that hoardes broken glass and useless junk. Alot of them will get their kids to move things around for them, or just ask if they can have random construction debris, then any time their kids are sitting still they get them to "help them" and the first time they say no their yelled at or beaten or threatened, the idea of a child not moving things around or having to do "something" is too much for the hoarder to take so they use them as like, Golems, or slaves.

I have a theory that using compartmentalization (Military term) and forcing people to live in small bedrooms you can force people to either develop hoarding tendencies or give up completely in any way trying to improve their situation.

Alot of them when they see the contrast of you being organized and neat will sabotage your stuff or throw it out and play dumb too, like the idea of having tools that arent broken and rusted to shit is too much for them mentally to comprehend, or the idea of using a box on wheels to transport tools versus having them scattered all over your garage.

Tldr its a mental illness and they should be beaten and lit on fire for their disease
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I think these are abandoned houses where someone died, she comes in and starts filming. At least that’s what I gathered from a few of her tiktoks
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>>544467590
My brother has a verified IQ of 138. His house was a pigsty and he had to move back in our parents home 2 times because he couldn't keep things organized. He's not autistic nor does he have any other mental illness.
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>>544484405
She lives there, she is mentally unwell. Homeless people have better living arrangements inside a giant box
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>>544468856
>>544469124
>>544471502
>>544471773
>>544475939
>>544484405

https://www.tiktok.com/@shirokumatyandaisuki4444/video/7545503357545221383

in the comment section of this video that she took back in 2023, many say something like she was able to speak normally or she has changed a lot over the last 2 years.
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>>544467590
Perhaps inversely
If you think about all the really smart autists, their work and living spaces are all a mess
A persons level of education has NOTHING to do with their intelligence
Case in point, niggers in Yale and other such high level universities, not because they are intelligent and should be there, but because they are niggers.
This is everywhere now.
So I would say that now, more than ever before, you level of education indicates how retarded you are.
The higher you went, the more retarded.
This is kike bizzarro world now, you just live in it.
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According to her research, sesame oil is the most effective organic cockroach trap, even better than milk, shampoo, and conditioner.
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>>544484882
I mean what exactly does that prove?
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Intelligence only matters if you use it.
Otherwise you aren't really smart, you just have a superiority complex. Thats pretty dumb.
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I’ve heard there’s zero correlation. From a guy who’s job involved entering lots of homes.
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>>544467590
>conflates IQ with education and being orderly
low IQ take
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>>544467709
and time
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>>544467849
She's schizophrenic.
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That’s not how IQ works. IQ is merely measuring how fast your brain can process a solution to a problem.
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>>544469124
>She’s always very clean and well dressed
No she isn't. She mostly wears the same outfit days on end and her hair is greasy and unkempt.
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>>544467590
Disgusting bitch. She's a spiritual pajeet
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>>544467590
You ask 2 different questions, but the answer to each is no. Neither IQ nor education level has anything to do with cleanliness.
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>>544467590
Yes to some degree, it's probably like the bell curve where midwits keep it spotless and both the higher and lower intelligence people are more messy but for different reasons, lower IQs are messy because they just don't care and don't see any value in cleanliness and the higher IQs are more messy but in a productive way because they probably have lots of different things and projects going on.
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>>544477472
Someone is mad that solving difficult puzzles is straight up the definition of intelligence instead of "contributing to society" by creating an economical benefit. Either woman or jew thinking.
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>>544472070
would you want some jeet or spic on shit wages rooting through your house while you're not there?
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>>544467590
You are looking for a correlation that isn't there chasing your own confirmation bias. Just stop. You have OCD, it is not a superpower, it is a mental heath disorder. Get treated.
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If asmongold had a daughter.
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>>544467590
This cutie has not been posting recently on TikTok unless she changed platforms or names.

She is known as "the strongest" in japanese. The "strongest chan"
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>>544467590
The biggest cause is just Alcoholism.
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>>544467590
No, there's a correlation between "not beating your daughters" and how filthy her house is.
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>>544478912
Those jeetas saw too many chink escalator videos and grew a fear of them
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>>544467590
textbook borderline shizophrenia , you stop looking after yourself , don´t care what you wear , or your surroundings and get worse every year unless you are looked after and take meds , then you can function somewhat normally.
t.haver
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>>544467590
Aww, she is super cute and probably a total sweetheart, imagine all the tickle fights and cuddles you could have with a girl like this

IQ is irrelevant here, this is just extended periods of deep depression, she just needs somebody to love her unconditionally

I could absolutely fix her, and even if I couldn't i'd be happy she let me try - she isn't even fat and I bet she doesn't reek like rotten feta cheese either
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>>544490107
What meds?
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>>544487802
Shut up fag
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>>544467590
Asians are high iq and with that comes complex behaviors
What kind of ants are those
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>>544491231
They’re roaches of varying size, go to her tiktok and you can see everything clearly
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>>544467590
I bet bugs come with her to work.
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Idk. A lot of low IQ people have really tidied up homes. I think it's more indicative of a disorder than IQ.
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>>544467590
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>>544467590
>it's high iq to pay a landlord jew for the opportunity to be a live-in janitor
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>>544467849
Shes pretty..its shame gore people are so screwed up.
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Diogenes syndrome doesn't discriminate, in fact I'd be inclined to say smart people are more prone to not give a fuck.
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>>544467590
Messy rooms correlate with creativity unironically
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>>544467590
>Do people with higher levels of education tend to keep their homes cleaner
No. I've worked for a property management firm, high end condos and gated communities, shit I couldn't afford even if they quintupled my wage, White's and Koreans are by far cleaner, though they still run at 50/50 for being hoarders/having nonsense strewn everywhere. I've been inside a $2.4m home owned by some pajeet that was infested with bed bugs and had bathroom drywall beside the toilet that was obviously pissed through. Not to mention the smell.
Chinks run at 80/20 for having garbage everywhere, especially outside. The 20% that run an immaculate home could likely pass a lab clean room test.
These are all highly educated, supposedly intelligent types. It's the only way to buy into these places.
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>>544467590
She is surprisingly clean for a dirty person. She is staging this. Look how clean are her nails.
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>>544467590
Einstein's desk shortly after he died.
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>>544490631
Quetiapine , works on my machine and i´ve been through MANY plus drugabuse and alcohol . selfmedicating with weed etc.
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>>544467849
She's schizophrenic you retard. There's an interview of her before she got famous where she schizo rambles on about how her parents abused her, and how she was in the mental hospital a lot as a teenager, and how she wants to do porn to make money. Wonder if the Yakuza turned her down as a liability, or if she just got tiktok famous before she got fucked by a pack of yakuza.
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>>544467800
I could fix her but whatever is wrong with her is hotter.
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>>544467590
No, I think there are quite a lot of very low IQ white trash who are rich for no other reason than they are white and jews like white pets. So I really love to see all the young white women who love to travel the world and somehow think that makes them 'less racist', because they can observe poor people in 3rd world nations
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>>544467590
It's the opposite, clean means low iq.
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>>544467590
there's something in the brain that just makes you go "EWW FUCK , CLEAN NOWWW" or just in general that propels your body to do things that need to be done, like waking up early, or enduring putting things on trash bags and taking them out
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>>544468108
Oh so this whole things an ad fucku yuyou
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>>544467590
Both alignment of higher levels of education and maintaining organization are gratification delaying extrinsic reward motivated behavior. It's an executive function thing. There's some correlation to intelligence with those things but a person can be very intelligent on paper and have some sort of executive dysfunction or still respond stronger to basic intrinsic motivations. There is some correlation with intelligence but ultimately it's more a predictor of success than intellect.
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>>544497005
Attainment of higher education*
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>>544467590
Probably correlation since troubled people tend to be more impulsive and depressed. Doubt it's strongly related though.
Maybe unhygienic messiness, like rotting food, filth from pets, and bio hazard stuff sitting around. But disorganization generally is more about being depressed/unmotivated/undisciplined.
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>>544495098
Nice bait nigger
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>>544467959
Best post.
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>>544467590
i live like her bros
how can i get my shit together
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>>544498073
You have to make it a habit to clean, even just a little. Developing new habits takes work but if you really engrain taking out a little trash every day it will never build up that bad. Initially it doesn't even need to be positive progress and you can even take out less than the mess you made that day. Just the action of picking up one thing and breaking from your patterns to take it out to the garbage, the actual garbage outside and not just overflowing in inside trashcans, is the practice you need to make part of your natural patterns. Once you can do that you can scale up. Take the junk near you and shove it into a grocery bag and make a dent, then start filling full trashbags. The scale is easier than simply developing the practice of breaking away from what your are doing, have been doing, and like to do and scaling up will be second nature once you've ingrained taking any garbage at all out. A big trashcan in your main spaces so there's an easy low friction target can be good too but only once you've got the habit down so you don't just let it overflow.
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>>544467590
While that logic holds for midwits and retards, and might've applied to an earlier age where stay-at-home wives were the norm, I've found that (non-social)scientists, engineers, and doctors tend to have fairly cluttered homes because they're usually ridiculously busy but too poor,* too neurotic, or too schizo to afford a maid.

*usually because they have expensive hobbies and/or addictions.
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>>544467590
Smart people find ways to mate.
And not get nuked.
Twice.
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>>544467590
I'd fuck her, but not in that apartment.
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>>544467590
Being super clean = midwit and low IQ (repetition and tedium are not an issue for them)

Being messy = high IQ (the tedium of nonstop cleaning bores them, they only do the most essential cleaning)

Living in squalor = mental illness
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>>544467590
Damn that's disgusting. My place is a mess rn, but I still refuse to let it get to a point where bugs can have free reign.
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>>544467709
/thread
Schizo genius with a messy lab is a stereotype for a reason.
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>>544467785
ADHD can’t clean.
Every time I go to clean I make a bigger mess.
Too much stuff, too much sorting, not enough dopamine to keep me on task.
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>>544473352
You know there are ugly thin women, right? I know a woman at my work who is in her late 20s and has a normal-to-thin body but she has a weirdly asymmetrical jaw that gives her a crooked smile and a chin like a potato. Very nice girl, shy, probably a virgin, but she has a weirdly big chin and a crooked smile so she’s been dateless and meek her whole life.
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>>544467872
This. These people have a chaotic brain which overflows to their living environment. If someone’s home is in shambles, their life and mental health is as well.
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>>544498073
start making something out of yourself and disregard the vaginal jew , once you get older your hormones cool down and you no longer think about SEXO SEXO MATE MAKE CHILDREN anymore.
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>>544503444
I have ADHD and I can clean. You are just a lazy looser
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>>544504622
>once you get older your hormones cool down and you no longer think about SEXO SEXO MATE MAKE CHILDREN anymore.
Must suck to be a soiboy like you
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>>544503788
>Very nice girl, shy, probably a virgin,
lmao, yeah probably not.
It's always the mid to low tier girls who are the huge secret whores.
Attractive women use it a bit, sure but many guys are intimidated by them and so they get less offers. women with flaws though, especially "shy" ones...
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>>544504622
>once you get older your hormones cool down and you no longer think about SEXO SEXO MATE MAKE CHILDREN anymore.
how much older? I'm almost 40, and they're still firing on overdrive.
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>>544467590
Her pussy must be incredible
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>>544467590
It's actually correlated with being conservative. Conservatives are more conserned with clenliness and purity both in the metaforical and literal sense.
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>>544480398
>there's a strong correlation between brainlets having zero book cases and/or zero interesting/good books whatsoever and having those hallmark hyper-clean, nearly empty interiors.
As an actual high IQ person you nauseate me.

You think those bookcases full of fancy encyclopedias you never once read impresses me? It's just peacocking how smart you (think) you are.

Meanwhile I have entire volumes of forbidden materials in USB drives exploring the history of the cosmos from pre-BC eras to present day. I've got audiobooks full of the Classics, Russian literature, philosophy, and science. I ponder things you would never fucking DREAM about, maggot.

So keep prattling on about your encyclopedia bookcases, you scum.
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>>544505083
you are controlled by your sexual urges only and dedicate your entire life to acquire pussy or you are just a bored faggot who wants to ragebait, either way have at you you miserable pile of flesh.
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>>544505415
Man has a primal urge to procreate. Shut up with your faggot-tier puritanism.

>ooOoOOOo I'm so much BETTER than you because my dick DoEsN'T wOrK!

Well congratu-fucking-lations Mr. Limp dick. Your biology has failed you and now you're being sour grapes about the most fundamental aspect of human existence.

Get a grip you faggot
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>>544467590
Many a historic genius lived in a hoarder heap.
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>>544467590
There's a correlation but a lot of low IQ people live with performative cleanliness and a lot of smart people are slobs. Still, clean your room and wash your penis anyway.
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>>544467590

Most professional cleaners and charwomen are low to mid IQ at best. Plenty of high IQ people are sloppy and forgetful or lazy as fuck. Sorry I don't see the coffee cups and fast food trays in my room piling up when I'm burning the candle at both ends programming robots and tools for handling giant data lakes. Here's 70 bucks clean this trash up, do my laundry, and make my bed. Here's another 20 to clean the bathroom and remind me to shower. Fuck you.
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>>544467590
The highest intelligence humans put extreme value on orderliness, cleanliness, and quietness. Its inherently a biological evolutionary trait to value these things.
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>>544506336
>Psychological research shows no direct link between high intelligence and a strict preference for orderliness or cleanliness. In fact, empirical studies suggest that intelligence and personality traits like neatness operate independently.
>Cognitive Focus Styles: Some individuals are order-dependent thinkers who experience a 43% drop in focus when surrounded by clutter. Others are order-tolerant, meaning their brains do not flag physical disorder as a problem, allowing them to remain deeply focused regardless of their surroundings.

so not only is your theory wrong (you're dumb) but you're also handicapped by unwashed dishes. How pathetic. Laughing, we're laughing.
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I feel like I'm the opposite of a hoarder. I want to throw just about everything away. I don't consider myself a minimalist. Maybe I fell for the "own nothing and be happy" psyop
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>>544503444

Ya gotta not sort. Cleaning is just putting stuff in the general area of where it belongs, just think of it that way. Overthinking it is murderous for ADHD folks. Literally exhausting yout cognitive function on minutiae. Details will distract, tire you out and bore you. If my cleaning session starts running long, I stop doing shit like recycling. I have huge contractor bags I take to the dump. I just start throwing everything in there. Just commit to doing it for 15 minutes every day, then stop if you're not getting anywhere and don't feel inspired to continue. Do one area like a book shelf. Just that area. Then once a week push for 45 minutes. If you got even 2 15 minutes session in, the long one will be much easier. Also, no one lives in a clean space all the time. Don't beat yourself up over it. It still sucks - but I get it done most weeks.

Same goes with stuff like dishes. There's 2 solid approaches - the first is to just have less dishes and clean them when used. Another is just refuse to be anal about them, if there's a speck of food on them no one cares just rinse them. I find with tedious stuff like dishes units best just to say I'm only go to do half these, or I'm only going to do this for 20 minutes tops (do the opposite of setting a minimum time, set a maximum one) 9/10 times I just keep going and finish them the remaining 1/10, they can wait till tmr.

Cleaning and tidying sucks when you have add. It's like we can't shut our brains off and do it automatically like normies. I got my cleaning habits from living with a girlfriend who would nag me over not tidying up. Then when I shaped up she still acted like a cunt. Then I when I was out working and came home to a dirty house and she was home all day I would (deservedly) use it as an excuse to be fucking livid. Purely pathological relationship. I'm reasonably tidy now though. YMMV.
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>>544467590
Einstein couldn’t do his own laundry, look at his hair, he was a mess.
It’s the bellcurve meme
Low IQ lives in trash mentally absent from the physical realm
Mid IQ and up to some point more and more connected to reality
Beyond that start to get detached again, mentally absent in an intellectual realm and in some cases back to messy/living in garbage again.

Also intelligence depression correlation
Depression living in garbage correlation

It may actually be more the opposite of what your thinking.

Ofc aboriginals and Congolese are fucking retarded and live in garbage just as you say.



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