Even whores work harder than landlords.
>>544521386ok?
>renting your vagina: good>renting your property: badinteresting.
>>544521386Renting your pussy for an hour is theft.
>>544521386Based, sucking cock is work just like sending emails. There's no reason for these lazy uppity wagies to not suck my dick.
>>544521386If by sex work you mean prostitutes then I unironically agree, most landlords suck ass.
>>544521386All parasitical ways to earn money should be abolished. Renting, lending money with interest, profits made from war.Whores are alright though
sex work is bodily rent seeking
>>544522476Based!
>>544521386I rent 21 apartments mostly 2/2 in the 900 sqft range for $47,000/mo gross. AMA
The same people who champion "sex work" also believe that men who have sex with prostitutes are rapists who deserve to be murdered, and they see no contradiction between these two views.
>>544521386Rentlet
>>544521468White little girls should be forced into sex work but never allowed to own property
>>544521386The ultimate grift is to build a storage lot.
>>544521386Landlord money comes from whoring. How they can afford so many houses. They are middle class whore pig families.
>>544521386of course being a landlord is not work. its an investment.
>>544521386What would happen if rent was illegal? Would property value drop so low that everybody could afford a property? Is this what leftists believe?I am a landlord in Canada, i rent out two condos and in terms of cash flow they are a horrible investment, after expenses I properly net like 15k CAD for property worth 500k. I am also subject to rent control and my renters are paying like 50% under market rate and there is nothing I can do except do my annual increases which is like 2% per year. Soon I may have to sell if my expenses become more than my rent
Landlords charge a toll for access to wealth that others created. If you tax away that land value and redistribute it equally, then the problem is gone. Leave the improvement value alone.
>>544521386Tell that to the banker that holds the mortgage and the state that charges rent on dirt.
>>544521386Because sucking a dick pays more than welding means that the welder who worked hard all his life has to have the old white as his Jewish landlord. These whores will and are doing that. OF models, etc. if some foid scribbles that on a wall and runs off it just means she’s not a hard working whore. Whores will control society, and in many ways already do.
>>544521386Yeah dude they don't work (goes to every house makes sure retards have decent filters for their A/C, cleans up area of all plant matter every wind storm, mows lawns, knock on doors and risk getting shot getting rent, keeps everyones apartment in working order, installs new appliances, or is in talks in their office all day making these things happen with labor force who cannot speak English)
>>544521386both jobs involve laying there and taking it (your money)is one is real then so is the otherif one isn't then neither are
>>544523492>If you tax away that land value and redistribute it equally, then the problem is gone.Romantic theory that never materializes simply because those who impose socialism/communism do so for personal enrichment. We are already overtaxed on overvalued property and the money is grifted away.
>>544521386A woman is a landlord of her pussy. The man just gets to rent it.
>>544523788I don't want the money to be used for the enrichment of a small group of people. That's why it should be redistributed equally. It sidesteps the whole problem of corruption.Also, Marx hated Henry George and Land Value Taxes, so it can't be communism.If you tax the potential gain from holding onto land without developing it (unimproved value), then you end up with maximally improved land.This isn't just some fantasy. Everywhere that it's been tried has been a massive success. Every time it's been ignored is a failure.Just look at Texas vs California housing costs. Texas has high property (land) taxes, and relatively low CoL. California has minimal property taxes and some of the worst housing costs in the country, because they don't build enough.
>>544521472lol
>>544521386>sex work is real workit is for the whores I hire, I make sure of that
>>544521386You know what's real work, turning wrenches
I dont blame them. So far I fucked over 30 hookers on vacation. I never felt lonely with a woman in my motel room
Sex work is predatory. Sex workers are sexual predators.>Sex workers rely on people who are disadvantaged in life>takes advantage of the ugly>the poor(cough up half a cheque for sex wagie)>low self-esteem, depression, etc>those who are unattractive and lonely/ignored>sex addicted>drunk, high, etcIf sex work was real work it would be minimum wage. Not extortion levels. If it was real work, they'd agree itd be affordable and accessible like other services, but its not. Sex worker is like being a tough drug dealer but for women. A sex worker, like a drug dealer, cannot survive if it has no one who is vulnerable for them to pray on.
>>544524607So what is your solution for those so called "vulnerable" men who cannot get sex through other methods yet don't want to completely go without it all their life?Government mandated girlfriends?Will Crust defeat hypergamy if we pray hard enough?
>>544521386If "sex work is real work" then I demand to get paid $1000/hr to listen to a foid speak from now on since listening to any of their bullshit is actual mind-eroding, sanity-testing, high-blood-pressure-inducing work. Far harder than having fucking sex FFS. Where is that fucking difficult anyway? I swear even things that are recreational are supposedly "work" to them(what bullshit fucking scam artists)
>>544525601Like drugs. Make it accessible and affordable.If an escort is charging anything above 10% of min wage per session, it is predatory and exploitative. But also, just because i recognize something is bad doesnt mean I need to offer a solution or be dismissed. I cant offer a cure for cancer, but obviously it is bad. My problem is that the opinion of 'sex work is real work' that is a left wing opinion is contradictory to almost all their values. Praising sex work, as it exists, is just simping.
>>544524144Is this some Korean x48 band?
>>544521386Its slavery.
>>544521386They're just renting pussy.Still hoarding it away and charging too much, just like a landlord.Fuck em both says I.
>>544523492>>544523927>If you tax the potential gain from holding onto land without developing it (unimproved value), then you end up with maximally improved land. Incorrect. What you are actually trying to describe is anarcho-capitalism where people need to homestead land in order to own it. LVT still allows people to hoard low value land.
>>544521472Property ownership is illegitimate. Why do you feel you have the right to claim exclusive ownership over a chunk of the finite earth.
>>544521386So if a hooker gets killed is that a lay off?
>>544521386unless you're actually fucking or sucking, its not real worknaked pictures or videos of you blowing/riding a dildo isn't work
>>544521914It's crazy that thirdie shitholes like the USA have it illegal to buy prostitutes while prostitution for whores is okay but if you have a camera and make a porno everything is legal again.Retarded shit.
>>544521386For the money they get in rent, absolutely landlords don't work very hard.If rent were half across the board it may be more reasonable for the work they put in. But the underlying issue of it all still is how we monetize land as a speculative investment rather than as a place to live.
>>544526048Why do you feel the need to lay claim to the results of my labor?
>>544526048Because scarcity is a real thing and conflict over land is inevitable. So there must be some way to resolve such conflicts. In other words, when there is a conflict over land there must be a method to determine who gets to use the land. Therefore, property is legitimate.
>>544526164Did your label create the land?
>>544526033>LVT still allows people to hoard low value land.If it's low value, then it doesn't matter if it's hoarded.In fact, under this system, people are paid to improve extremely low value land, because they'll get more from the dividend than they pay in taxes on that land. This systems isn't ancap, but it's close to it.Ancap still allows people to privately own land value. This system is basically the same, but it redistributes the land value.You can search royal vs geo libertarian.
>>544526131If they say no to most guys and only fuck attraktive guys then it's not a job they get paid to enjoy sex especially if they do nothing and you have to do every move like fucking a corpse.
>>544526164It's fine to own the improvement, which you have created. The whole problem is that the land value itself comes from charging a toll to access the wealth others have created.
yeah and smoking crack is a hobby
>>544526196I don't own land, but I know you are a communist that wants equality of outcome.
>>544526048Why do you feel like you have the right to claim exclusive ownership of your body
>>544526217>If it's low value, then it doesn't matter if it's hoarded.Incorrect. That it is low value does not mean that would always be low value. By hoarding it, you prevent people from homesteading it and turning it into high value land in time.
>>544526164Your labor had nothing to do with creating that piece of land, (don't care about the structure placed a-top it.)All you did with your labor is pay some guy, who paid some guy, who paid some other guy who claimed he owned it, and his claim to it was also illegitimate. All land ownership is illegitimate
>>544526411You only say that because you do not own land.
>>544526411See >>544526182If you believe that land ownership is illegitimate then you believe conflicts over land cannot be resolved.
In reality, the vast majority of people know, rightfully, "sex worker" is a sanitised term to describe a prostitute. One doesn't refer to a chef as a "food worker", nor a mechanic as a "car worker", do they? It's delusional, and I suspect it's driven by guilt and shame - something leftists have in abundance. They are deeply dysfunctional individuals inflicting their angst upon the world. In the future, I dream of a work on which we put left wing scum into work camps and they can "share" the profits of their labour with each other hahat. owner of 5 properties
>>544526217Why would you trust the free market for everything but land, I don’t understand why you are even a libertarian if you never fully comprehended subjective value.>>544526271Goods don’t have classes, if one thing can be left to the market everything can. You want entrepreneurs discovering the value of land same as anything else.
>>544521386If it's real work are they paying taxes?
>>544526351It becomes higher value when people improve the land around it, which would cause the tax to rise. Improving land doesn't increase its value. It increases the value of the land around it. If a hospital is built near you, your land value goes up. That doesn't increase the basic value of the land the hospital was built on. The whole reason it's low value is because it's not worth improving, so you have to pay people to live there.
>>544526411So is body ownership legitimate?
>>544526549>Why would you trust the free market for everything but landBecause land wasn't created by anyone.The real issue is that by owning land, you charge a toll for access to the wealth others have created nearby.I do very much trust the free market and understand subjective value. That's why I want to ensure land stays in the free market, rather than abused as a method of collecting taxes.Enforcing land value taxes ensures that land will be owned by whomever will put it to its best use, rather than used for rent seeking and speculation.
>>544526600Incorrect. If I own a 1000 acre plot of unimproved land, then I am preventing people from homesteading any land on that plot. Improving sections of my land through homesteading would increase the value of my 1000 acres.
>>544526814You haven't improved the basic value of that plot. You've improved the plot, and so the sale price of the whole asset has increased.The basic plot of land hasn't changed. If you got rid of your improvement, then the asset would be worth exactly what you originally paid.
>failed whore upset she couldn't make enough money on OF to buy a housewaow
>>544521386both jewish
>>544526896Yeah, if you get rid of the improvements then you get rid of the additional land value the improvements create. What point are you trying to make?
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>>544526048Give me your car, you don't deserve it. And your shoes, all of them.
>>544526954pimping aint ezier than landlording?
>>544526731>That's why I want to ensure land stays in the free market, rather than abused as a method of collecting taxes.That's the opposite of what you're proposing. You are literally saying that land should be used as a method of collecting taxes.
>>544526954The point I want to make is that land value taxes solve the worst of our economic issues, but we got sidetracked onto an irrelevant conversation about low value land.So much of our issues with a lack of housing supply and CoL come from land which is being underutilized. It's underutilized because people are incentivized to hold onto land for rent seeking and speculation, rather than actually improving it.You can see this clearly in California where a small old shack can be worth millions. This is because the land value is so high, but the owner is holding onto the land hoping for more.
>>544526139>illegal to buy prostitutes while prostitution for whores is okaychristcucks/feminists>but if you have a camera and make a porno everything is legal againjews
>>544521386Only in américa, but hiring a whore in américa is also ilegal
>>544526731>Because land wasn't created by anyone.So what? Was iron created by someone? The creation of land property is no different than the creation of any other property, one renders it property, transforms it from wilderness to its valuable form, no different than rendering metal from ore. Goods do not have classes.>The real issue is that by owning land, you charge a toll for access to the wealth others have created nearby.Get an HOA. >I do very much trust the free market and understand subjective value.And yet you think you know how to value land better than the market, which is just communist intuition and indicative that you don’t grasp subjective value as a concept.>That's why I want to ensure land stays in the free marketBy placing top down regulation on it?>rather than abused as a method of collecting taxes.??? All tax is theft, it does nothing for us>Enforcing land value taxes ensures that land will be owned by whomever will put it to its best use, rather than used for rent seeking and speculation.It’s not rent seeking, rent seeking is lobbying, and you literally don’t know what the best use for the land is and the free market process is how the value of the land is discovered. You’re not going to make this process more efficient there is no usecase for government or tax outside of enriching yourself at the cost of society.
>>54452147230 minutes later and women still have no rebuttal to this.
>>544527108You are incorrect. Our housing supply issue stems from state interference. Namely zoning regulations and enforcing the ownership of unimproved land. Neither of which are solved by LVT but both of which are solved by anarcho-capitalism.
>>544527052It's already a method of collecting taxes. They just go to private landowners rather than the people.You're already paying the LVT whenever you buy or rent land, it just goes to a private owner.It's a toll that you have to pay to access the wealth that others created in the area.People hold onto land without improving it as a hope to sell the land for far more than they paid. The profit they get is precisely wealth the community has been denied.Fairly soon, you end up with a housing crisis and massive homelessness.Think of it like this: you can tax land at whatever the free market is willing to pay. So someone could bid to the government that they're willing to pay a higher tax on some land to gain exclusive ownership of it. Then the tax would rise, and if the current owner can't afford it, then they'll sell it to someone who can afford the tax.So land will be owned by whomever will put it to its most profitable use. This maximizes the benefits of the free market on land, while eliminating the drawbacks.
Sex work is not work, youre renting your holes out to someone for a rate. That's not labor. Prostitutes are quite literally pussy landlords
>>544527223>And yet you think you know how to value land better than the market, which is just communist intuition and indicative that you don’t grasp subjective value as a concept.No.I want the free market to determine the tax rate. People can bid on what they're willing to pay in tax on land, which will cause the tax to meet that value.
>>544527266>Our housing supply issue stems from state interference. Namely zoning regulations and enforcing the ownership of unimproved land.And why are people so concerned with NIMBY policy such as zoning laws? Because it keeps their land values high and allows them to eventually sell land for a massive profit, despite doing little to nothing with it.If you tax the shit out of land values, then the entire incentive for NIMBYs, zoning, and HOAs disappears overnight.
>>544527126One thing I never understood was American strip clubs, why would you want dancing whores and get horny when you can't even fuck them?Here just last week I fucked a 14 year old Ukrainian whore for 20€.Best whores ever but you have to check for HIV since many of them have it but the good ones have medical history on hand.
>>544521386>pussy landlord good>landlord bad>
>>544527038My car is worthless you would not even want it. I have a 2002 Nissan Micra with rotted out sills.
>>544527368You’re just speculating on what a free society would look like then, that there will be demand for taxes. Well maybe, good luck with your ambitions.
>>544527296None of this follows. You don't get to massive homelessness from private land ownership. You get to massive homelessness from State interference in the housing market. >>544527414Incorrect. Land value is usually higher in places with less restrictive zoning.
>>544527516Pussy is free but chuds wont get it
>>544527574How would you solve the problems associated with land ownership?The primary issue I see is that someone can simply buy a plot of land in an up and coming area, do nothing with it, then sell it later on without having improved it for a massive profit.This puts a massive incentive to simply hold onto land for rent seeking and speculation, which results in heavily underutilized land.If you tax the land at exactly what the market is willing to pay, then land will be owned by whomever will put it to its best use, rather than whomever simply got there first. This will maximize the economic productivity of any particular plot of land.
>>544521386your country is an authoritarian hellhole of draconian regulation, you would rather your despondent and downtrodden rot in tarps below bridges than allow architectonic masterpieces such as pic related to flourish on your soili do not know what's more hypocrite, that you call yourselves a christian nation or the land of the free
>>544527712>How would you solve the problems associated with land ownership?Get rid of zoning laws and allow unimproved land to be homesteaded.
>>544527640You get homelessness from underutilized land. State interference with policies like rent control and zoning are one cause for land to go underutilized.The primary incentive for those policies is for people to try to hold on to land values, rather than needing to give up the land to someone who can make better use of it.Rent control prevents housing from going to people willing to pay more. Zoning prevents land from being developed more than it currently is.>Land value is usually higher in places with less restrictive zoningI should've been more clear here. Consider the case of some NIMBY saying that they don't want new housing development because it destroys the "character of the community" or whatever other BS. The primary issue here is that building more housing in the area makes their housing worth less.Now, there is the increase in their own land value due to its potential for hosuing, and removing zoning can actually increase that value. However, the owner would quickly be ruined by property taxes and be forced to sell.Some might actually prefer this arrangement, because they can get a huge amount of money, but quite a few would rather stay where they live.
>>544527712There aren’t any issues associated with land ownership, goods do not have classes, value is subjective. You are speculating on the best use of land, which is fine, you hate HOAs but what you are describing is HOA stuff. Ancap is about reducing authority to the lowest level possible for everything, first to the individual, then to the local community, you can live under whatever crazy rules you want if you can convince others to live with you.
>>544527712>This puts a massive incentive to simply hold onto land for rent seeking and speculation, which results in heavily underutilized land.Really think about this. In order for this investment strategy to work, you have to do nothing with your land while relying on others to do something with theirs. If lots of other people are following the same strategy, then improvements aren't being made and there's little profit in land speculation. If few people are doing it, then it can't be that profitable or more people would do it. The only conclusion is that, in a free market, land speculation just isn't a great investment strategy. Why not just improve your land? You still have the land to sell later if you want and you make money off the improvement. Or just sell the land and invest the money in something more sensible like the stock market.
>>544522837Do any of your faggot tenants post memes like post rel on your social media accounts to try and get a discount through subversion?
>>544527665The why are they allowed to sell it?How are leftoids going to get laid?Make it make sense
>>544527781I agree with this, however, it doesn't solve the fundamental problem.The moment people get whiff of the fact that you'll remove zoning laws, all that land will be held onto. Once you do remove zoning laws, some development will occur. However, quite a lot of it will stay unimproved, because the owners will keep hoping that the value rises even more before selling it. That's the core of the problem right there. That land goes underutilized, potentially for decades, because the owner will keep hoping the value rises. The owner is disincentivized from improving the land, because it's a big risk, and if they get it wrong, then it could end up harming their sale price. It's easier to just sit on the land and wait.Land value taxes forces the landowner to sell the land to someone who will put it to good use, or compensate society for the loss of wealth by keeping the land underutilized.
>>544527931You get homelessness from drugs, alcohol and societal tolerance for vagrancy.
>>544528064see >>544528024
>>544527931You get homelessness from government lmao, if there is one thing we can literally end within 24 hours of abolishing the state it’s an end to homelessness. Under free market capitalism you will have options for any budget, it’s regulation that prevents people from being sold cheap goods. Homelessness literally wasn’t even a problem in this country once, homeless meant you lived in a hotel 100 years ago, it was considered a lifestyle choice of addicts, which it basically still is but they used to be able to afford a room.
>>544528062Selling pussy in américa is illegal in almost all states, it's illegal to pay for sex because is slaving
>>544527000this woman will later say whe was a victim and was traumatized from being a porn whore. and people will believe them, which is why they will always be able to do this
>>544528024>Why not just improve your land?There's a lot of risk in this. Some people do take that risk, which is why some of the land does get developed.The problem is precisely the people who don't take that risk.>>544528004>you hate HOAs but what you are describing is HOA stuffHow? I'm obliterating all of the little rules that prevent land from being developed.>goods do not have classes, value is subjectiveI agree that value is subjective. However, land is a special type of good in that it has a fixed supply and is required as a basis for any kind of transaction.You didn't create the land, you only created your improvements.Your land value rises when people around you improve their land. That wealth was not created by you, yet you charge a toll to access it. https://landvaluetax.org/comment/blog/history/winston-churchill-said-it-all-better-then-we-can/>Some years ago in London there was a toll bar on a bridge across the Thames, and all the working people who lived on the south side of the river had to pay a daily toll of one penny for going and returning from their work. The spectacle of these poor people thus mulcted of so large a proportion of their earnings offended the public con-science, and agitation was set on foot, municipal authorities were roused, and at the cost of the taxpayers, the bridge was freed and the toll removed. All those people who used the bridge were saved sixpence a week, but within a very short time rents on the south side of the river were found to have risen about sixpence a week, or the amount of the toll which had been remitted!
>>544528114owning land is a social constructyour great great great great grandad just shot whoever was living there and then settled in. they didn't ask for permission lolserfs and tribes agree it's your land when you actually provide a decent life like crops and a virgin wife for agreeing to your contractwhen that's gone all you have is a piece of paper and an angry mob
>>544528155Explain the image in the OP and address the second part of the message, memeflaggot.
>>544528242>The problem is precisely the people who don't take that risk.But how much of a problem could they possibly be? The more people that try this strategy, the less profitable the strategy is. Even if you're risk averse, why would you try this instead of investing in the Fortune 500 or something? It's just kind of a silly thing to worry about when you think about it more than not at all. >Your land value rises when people around you improve their land. That wealth was not created by you, yet you charge a toll to access it. So what? The state didn't create that wealth either so why should the state collect the land rent?
>>544528362Just 2 more weeks until you form that angry mob, right comrade?
>>544528362rent for improvements such as a house is perfectly fine and legitimaterent on the land value is the root of the problem. It's a toll to access the improvements that others have made in the area.
>>544527252And they never will other than screeching "my body my choice" and all I g guys incels
>>544528242It’s fine that you believe this, if you think this is what will make living in your HOA better and you will build a more competitive society than your neighboring HOAs then go for it, capitalism is about living your truth at the end of the day, value comes from you. But you’re stupid. The free market works, the use case of government is parenting not protecting, the government doesn’t create things, all good things exist independently of the government, you only need government if you want to make people’s decisions for them in what things they consume. You have a right to self determination, so if you and likeminded individuals want to come together and regulate consumption together you can, this is an HOA. I guarantee your economic meddling is not going to work out though.
>>544528428>But how much of a problem could they possibly be?Compare the housing prices and cost of living in California and Texas. Texas has relatively high property taxes, but plenty of housing. California has minimal property taxes, and a massive housing shortage.Under an LVT system in California, tens of thousands of multi-million dollar plots of land which single family homes are sitting on would be bulldozed and replaced with massive amounts of high quality medium to high density housing. This wouldn't be section 8 trash, because the only people who could afford to live here would still be reasonably wealthy. This would effectively eliminate California's homelessness problem, by massively increasing the housing supply, dragging all housing prices down. Merely abolishing zoning won't fix this, because all those homeowners will be waiting for the area around them to develop more before selling, so that they get a higher price.>The state didn't create that wealth either so why should the state collect the land rent?Because the state can equally redistribute the land rent.It might be the case that ideally, the land rent would go back to precisely who created it. However, in practice that's impossible to determine accurately. So just redistributing it evenly is good enough.Either the private landowner collects the land rent, or the state does.For economic growth, it's almost incomparably better for the state to collect it, because it obliterates the incentives for rent seeking and hoarding land.
>>544528529>I guarantee your economic meddling is not going to work out though.It has worked out splendidly everywhere variations of it have been tried.Singapore's economic model is heavily inspired by Henry George.Alaska and the Nordic country's oil dividends are examples of how to implement these policies correctly.Plenty of areas in the US have seen massive success from adopting split rate tax systems, where they can tax land and improvements separately.My economic meddling ensures that land will be owned by whomever is willing to put it to its most profitable use, so how would this possibly result in economic harm?
>>ITT the same bunkerfags losers with the same walls of text shilling about social construct and muh ebin chudsCome here, I'll teach you how to make proper incendiary devices and how to burn a federal building, maybe you'll stop larping once you smells a roasted pig or two you bunch of champagne socialists.
>>544526048Life is finite, why do you believe that you have the right to be alive and take up space when there are other who could be using the time and resources you consume better?
>>544528698You’re incoherent, is it economic management to ensure land is put to best use or do you believe that taxing land is some sort of legitimate right because positive externalities can only be solved by collective ownership?What you don’t understand is that you don’t know these things, this is the major leftist dysfunction, you claim to accept that value is subjective but you won’t actually give up on the idea of objective value. You are an entrepreneur, this your idea on how to manage property, and you should see from how well it’s supposedly worked out for so many people the importance of giving people the freedom to figure these things out. But seriously, you’re not going to outdo the free market when it comes to discovering price lmao.
