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I used to be a strong atheist. Now I'm thinking of becoming Catholic.

The sticking point is things like mass attendance, being around other people, who I near-univerally despise. Changing this would be a lifetime of work.

I did a good deed today at a personal cost, and helped someone greatly. For some reason I felt inspired to pray to God and ask him to help others the way I had helped someone today.
It felt ridiculous, but I also felt it in my body when I prayed. It's indisputable. What was that feeling?...
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>>544527406
Retardation. What made you think a dead kike on a stick was even real or is god?
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>>544527406

Catholicism is child abuse
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>>544527406
You will have to believe that this literally happened
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>>544527564
Catholics aren't biblical literalists whatsoever.
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>>544527406
Jesus is Danish confirmed
We are the chosen people
*rubs hands in Lego*
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>What was that feeling?
The heavy burden being lifted off you of carrying around your ego.
Also, I'm in the process of converting to catholicism myself and yesterday I went to the first community event. I dreaded it greatly because I'm a very anti social recluse that loves being alone 24/7 but it wasn't actually so bad. I just ask God to give me the parish that I need and to help me become the saint he wants me to be. I then accept that whatever parish he put me in is the exact one I nees to develop the virtues I lack and teuat his wisdom and guidance instead of resisting the process of him working on me. I happened to be put in a very "modern" parish, which made me struggle a lot with accepting that but I see this as a great opportunity to put my pride aside and let God make the decision for me.
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>>544527600
The fact that Lego was universally considered a golden-good company and they have been completely taken over by greed is the type of strong evidence that exists for need of my commitment.

They could be starting free public universities by now with all that money. Globally.
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im a firm believer sadly in death that is due circumstances, but apparently you can be alive n have it kickin
sad part is youll never really find what your longing for, that is some far fetched stuff from some distant dream

noone knows why were here, why things are the way they are
we just do what we do and cringe along the way
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>>544527406
Bullshit you are always a Christian and you're trying to recruit new Christians.
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>>544527477
retardation is a religion now
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>>544527477
OP is lying. They're already a Christian. This is how they brainwashed gullible retards
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>>544527406
>The sticking point is things like mass attendance, being around other people, who I near-universally despise.
If you live near any decent-sized town with multiple churches you can probably find a late night or early morning Mass that's poorly attended. Sit away from everyone else and you won't have to interact at all. Trust me it's a powerful experience you won't regret.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3H5f7oePQE
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>>544527644
What made you think about Catholicism instead of the protestants?
To me it's threefold: One, so many protestant churches seem simply lost in the sauce. LGBT pastors and all that. I grew up my entire life around Baptists, people who will preach to you one second and then rip you off the next. Christianity seems like a T-shirt to them. I don't need to take this wisdom from the Bible, but when the followers of Baal are described in the OT, you can't help but notice that they are describing misguided young contemporary American people.
Two, the Catholic Church is often looked at in terms of being strict, but they are really the most intellectually flexible sect of Christianity other than Quakers. Without the Catholic Church the progress of science and reason across the globe would have been impeded or potentially reversed or perverted.
Three, though my faith in God is extremely irresolute, my acceptance that people without God become evil is complete. Very few humans possess the qualities to approach moral good without a guide. None possess the ability to fully embody it without subservience.

I do not believe in hell, I do not believe Revelation is part of the Bible, I do not believe things are even as the Catholic Church accepts. But I believe it is close enough.
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>>544527901
Observe how the Christian tries to rope you in with a question and then follows with a wall of text. They do this when they spam social media too.
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>>544527741
>>544527718
I have told no lie. I can deconstruct any religious belief by logic as aptly as any man on Earth.
The thing is, the Earth doesn't operate on a logical basis, nor do humans.
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>>544527967
>I have told no lie
No one suddenly realizes they're a Christian and decides to post on /pol/ about it. You are actively recruiting. And you possibly work for an organization
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>>544527997
You are free to believe whatever you desire just as I am free to accuse you of being Indian.

Naturally the idea that someone could become Christian does not appease those who worship demons in bathe and feces
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>>544527901
>What made you think about Catholicism instead of the protestants?
The fact that protestantism was all about watering down the humbleness and giving up of self sacrifice asked of the individual by the catholic church, precisely because of what you said. "None possess the ability to fully embody it without subservience."
It's one of the only place left that still dares to ask people to overcome the flesh and rise above petty worldly things. Which is why my dissapointment was big when I discovered that all the catholic churches in my vicinity have gone very soft. I decided to not let that demoralize me and take what is provided to me and make the best out of it.
My initial grievance with christianity was also the hypocrisy, that people preach one thing then turn around and practice the exact opposite. I had to learn that human weakness to live up to God's will doesn't discredit God's will, it just shows how narrow the path actually is. I struggled a lot with the papacy at first because I was raised to despise all forms of authority but then concluded that that's precisely why the catholic churches is what I need. Doing God's will is supposed to be about striving to overcome your self centered and self serving nature, which starts with submitting to natural law and divine hierarchy.
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every cult gives that "feeling"

it's a psychological trap you retard

even worse you pick one that worships kikes
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSVjRbOab-g
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>>544528194
Well said anon. It's nice to talk to you. I feel we are at a time in history where men are being separated wheat from chaff. And the question for me was not "how do I go to heaven?" But "how do I glorify God?"

I guess much like Aquinas, I used a form of perverted logic, and one day asked myself: if even the idea of God exists as I know it, is serving him not a greater existence than what I have wrought by serving myself?

I'm not too worried about my locals being "soft", for me the journey is personal as I desire it to be for others. But I share with you the basic understanding that if nothing were being asked of us, there would be no need for a covenant.

To atheists and Canadians, which man would you rather meet:
"I serve myself"
Or
"I serve my master, who is greater than I."

The man you are meeting is yourself.
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>>544527477
>What made you think a dead kike on a stick was even real or is god?
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>bulldoze the vatican
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>>544527406

Your poster ID code is:

UP - J - DO - GEY
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>>544527406
Christ is Truth. Satan is the Prince of Lies, and Leftism cannot exist where there is Truth.

I will pray for you, my brother in Christ.
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>>544527406
>Now I'm thinking of becoming Catholic
just remember the church is totally infiltrated by them
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>>544527406
>What was that feeling?...

possibly Krishna-consciousness
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dPwBWvmcbQ
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>>544528393
>we are at a time in history where men are being separated wheat from chaff
I forgot who said it but I heard the saying that the more demonic the times are you live in, the easier it becomes to be a saint because your refusal to participate in what hurts God will be such a stark contrast and I find that to be true. The more worldly the world has gotten, the more you'll stick out like a sore thumb for not going with it.
>not "how do I go to heaven?" But "how do I glorify God?"
I love that. I got to that point myself and it was such an immense relief. I wasn't even aware how heavy of a burden it has been on me to be so obsessed with myself and being in control to find ways to make everything serve me and my hedonism and narcissism. It's almost scary to remember and I surely never want to go back to that. It drove me to be hyper anxious, hopeless and angry all the time to the point of being very suicidal. All got wiped away when I replaced serving myself with serving God.
>the journey is personal as I desire it to be for others
I agree. I guess I would have just found it nice if there were a couple of people there that share the exact same goals and values to help keep each not stray. But maybe that was me hoping to unload some of the responsibility for my own sanctification on others. Then again, the bible teaches us to surround ourselves with those that keep us in check if we lose our focus.
It's always very comforting to come across someone else that's on the same page, thanks anon.
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>>544528633
I've expanded my consciousness a lot. I accept other anons elegant explanation that it is the weight of ego fleeing.

Even if I become Catholic I won't cease expanding my consciousness and seeking to understand, rather than having understanding done for me.
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>>544527406
Why, so you can worship niggers?
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>>544528732
the important thing is planting roots of goodness
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>>544528393
Good post, anon. You are a lamp on a lampstand.
Keep praying. Just as seeds mysteriously germinate and slowly become full-grown plants, prayer also cultivates something within the soil (you) that eventually becomes bigger.
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>>544528712
I feel so explicitly and extraordinarily comforted by this exchange with you, in a way I generally never do. Thank you for your responses tonight. My decision seems ever easier.

>>544528806
I also connect with your perspective. The reason I cannot be a Biblically literal type Christian is that I believe many people approach this truth through different directions. Mine was at first through gnostic atheism where I would argue that I knew God did not exist.
One of my arguments was that Christians have knowledge of life and death and the end of all things-- and in doing so they anoint themselves God.
I was a hypocrite, likewise anointing myself God to deny him
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>>544527406
Yo I was raised athiest too. I went protestant after reading the whole "complete submission of intilect and will to vatacan 2" and realizing the pope is a faggot.
Fantastic people at my church, quickly made the best friends I've met my whole life. Trick is going with humble expectations and offer to help set up chairs or make coffee or whatever. Maybe move to more meaningful volunteer work
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>>544528739
>Sons of the Buddha, when the bodhisattva-mahāsattva sees all buddhas and hears the Dharma that they proclaim, he is filled with great joy. He is not attached to his own body, is not attached to the Buddha’s body, and understands the Tathāgata’s body is neither real nor false, is neither existent nor nonexistent, is neither possessed of any nature nor devoid of a nature, is neither possessed of form nor formless, is neither possessed of signs nor signless, is neither produced nor destroyed, and, in truth, is devoid of anything that exists even as this does not undermine its existence. And why is this? This is because he cannot take any nature or sign as the basis for forming attachments.
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>>544528904
I'll have to look up the lamp saying for my scholarship tonight. Thank you.

I feel like I have gone my whole life without feeling brotherhood with anyone, only to see it pour forth from an unending chalice. One simply has to tip the cup.
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>>544527406
You can’t be around people for an hour a week? Nigger no one even talks to you at Mass just go
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>>544527406
Oh and if you think that feeling is wild now just wait till after you get baptized!
But don't get too carried away chasing experiences otherwise you'll end up a pentacostal or in a cult.
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>>544528905
God bless you anon and all the best on your journey, may it lead you closer to God each day.
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>>544529008
Amitabha. By saying his name and signifying belief, even one hundred times, even ten times, or even one time, one cultivates innumerable roots of good, and may be reborn in the pure land.

God reveals himself to those with open eyes, hearts and minds.
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>>544527588
Catholics compiled the table of contents for the Bible.
>>544527901
> I do not believe in hell, I do not believe Revelation is part of the Bible, I do not believe things are even as the Catholic Church accepts.
Then you cannot ever be Catholic. Sorry
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>>544529102
>just wait till after you get baptized
I've heard intense stories... what's it like?
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The Buddha has taught of the existence of self as well as of the non-existence of self; He has also taught of neither self nor no self.

and,

Everything is true, nothing is true; everything is both true and not true; everything is neither true nor not true. This is the teaching of the Buddha.
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>>544529115
exactly. it works
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>>544529109
Are you an American also anon? It's ok if you don't want to say. I'm looking up all the Catholic churches here and there's one that still does full Latin mass and everything, I live in a pretty big area.

May God grant you peace and wisdom in your new journey. You have helped me more than you will understand tonight, simply by being present. I have spent such a long hour typing irrelevant things, responding to irrationality. It seems to fade like a fog.
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>>544529115
> may be reborn
Catholics do not believe in rebirth. Sign up for OCIA and please learn what Catholics actually believe. Do not ever receive the Eucharist at a Mass unless you are a baptised Catholic who has done the sacrament of Holy Communion and believe all the Church teaches
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i leave you this Pokémon (#196, 14 * 14) as proof. my work here is done

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXj8FM7lTrw
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Love..
All the beings are connected.
Only the few can see, or rarer still.. feel
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>>544527406
catlick
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>>544529151
Anon, there have been popes who didn't believe in things like that. You will just never know which ones.

>>544529273
You'll get there eventually but right now I am further down this road than you.
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>>544529273
i'm a catholic and i believe in rebirth (catholics used to)
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>>544529309
Do not show up to a Catholic Mass and take the Eucharist. You have been warned. You also have a demonic spirit of pride. Only those who submit to Rome and are internally disposed are prepared to receive the Sacraments
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>>544529378
You are a demon
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>>544527564
Based out of context quoting retard
>>544527588
That is a condemnation of Roman Catholicism if anything
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>>544529394
you're not Catholic. You're a kike.
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wisdom teaches that there is true pride and false pride. kikes have false pride.
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>>544529394
Anon intelligent people look things up before engaging in them

If I offend you so greatly begin looking around you and wondering which ones might be like him.

I come to please God, not the church. An avenue is not required to take a walk, it simply improves the excursion.
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This thread is infested with demons. Good luck to any anon finding his way to the Church.
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>>544529409
Oh really? Why do you think that?
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Do you see this Eye? It sees you.
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>>544529237
No, central europe. There's a parish that does TLM but it's a one hour drive. I've considered it but then conclused that that would once again be me trying force things to fit my own preferences snd that if God would have found it the best next step for me to attend TLM, he's put me in a parish that does that. I simply trust his plan, maybe he suddenly presents me with an opportunity to move and I end up with a very traditional community. I'm sure whatever he gives me is the exact thing I need in that moment to train the virtues I lack most. In this case probably moving past the arrogance of things needing to go my way a bit more.
>there's one that still does full Latin mass and everything
That's amazing, good for you.
>I have spent such a long hour typing irrelevant things, responding to irrationality
I've noticed that ever since I changed my mind on catholicism, 4chan's grip on me has greatly decreased. I find myself not caring anymore at all about all the things people seem to be riled up over most of the time. It's all turned into navel gazing noise. I suppose that's a great development in the right direction. I still come here precisely because I know there's people like you here too and it's wonderful to bump into them, like a spark of light in the darkness.
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>>544529459
You sound like someone who has never questioned anything about your faith and as such possesses none with any weight.

I don't care if you have been a perfectly by the book Catholic for 100 years you cannot arrive where I am in spiritual development without it having been an analytical and mystical process both.
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>>544529455
You sound like an addict. Clean yourself up and do not ever think about profaning the Precious Blood or Body with your arrogance. You have been warned
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>>544527406
>What was that feeling?.
According to brain scans prayer activates the same areas of the brain as meditation, just to a lesser extent
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>>544529505
... can you see this Eye?
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>>544527406
> For some reason I felt inspired to pray to God and ask him to help others the way I had helped someone today.
>It felt ridiculous, but I also felt it in my body when I prayed. It's indisputable. What was that feeling?...
You’re gay
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Sancte Míchaël Archangele, defénde nos in proélio, contra nequitiam et insídias diáboli esto præsídium. Imperet illi Deus, súpplices deprecámur: tuque, Prínceps militiae caeléstis, Sátanam aliósque spíritus malígnos, qui ad perditiónem animárum pervagántur in mundo,
divína virtúte, in inférnum detrúde.
Amen.
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>>544529622
Did Jesus ever pray to Mikael?
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>>544529622
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>>544527406
I'll not waste your time and so I'll get to the very core of it. Accepting catholicism means accepting that mortal sin (even one) gets you into hell and only the church can cleanse it. Being a 'nice person' alone ain't gona cut it. Just being 'simple' ain't gona cut it. What he wants is obedience to his commands i.e you must (try to) live in the way he wants. Avoiding mortal sin, and the situations that lead you into mortal sin, or else confession is not valid and therefor, if you die you will go to hell.

Mass attendance is mandatory, that is your tax with Heaven, it is the moment you will dedicate to worshiping your God. "Being around other people" hugging and holding hands and all that faggotry is Vat 2 nonsense. The mass is for HIM, not people.

The Catechism of St. Pius X is a good very simple guide that covers it all. You put in some work, God completes the rest, or so that is how the story goes.

Any protestant reading this don't bother replying with BUTS, there is nothing to discuss.
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>>544528090
>Naturally the idea that someone could become Christian does not appease those who worship demons in bathe and feces
Yeah, the leafe is right. You are recruiting
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>>544529680
The Church doesn't decide who goes to Hell.
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>>544527477
>Retardation. What made you think a dead kike on a stick was even real or is god?
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>>544529505
Go with God, anon.

>>544529513
It's such a similar process. Listening to Gateway Experience does the same thing.

>>544529502
Many sparks, alighting many flames anew. I do not think I would have reached this conclusion at this time without seeing similar lines of thought here.

The thing that really started the process for me was the war between Ukraine and Russia and the fact that so many complex human lives can just be put to an end as if they are valueless even today. It made me feel like all the progress that we have apparently made in 80 years has been for nothing.

>>544529680
The entrapments and restrictions are the desired part of this venture not something to be avoided. I've been reading about some catechisms, I'll refresh that one. I think I read an explanation the other day.

I've never known or really interacted with any Catholic people. In coming years you will see more people like me.
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>>544527967
>I can deconstruct any religious belief by logic as aptly as any man on Earth
Can you explain how the trinity is one god and not three gods without the heresies of modalism partialism or appealing to mystery?
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>>544529768
I believe the trinity is a medieval invention that isn't described in the Bible
>NOOOO YOU CAN'T SAY THAT AND BE CATHOLIC
Me and God will sort it out.
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>This bodhisattva possesses the heavenly eye that is purified and surpasses the human eye. Thus he observes with respect to beings when they were born, when they died, whether they were of fine physical appearance or of hideous appearance, whether they dwelt in the destinies associated with goodness, whether they dwelt in the wretched destinies, and how they moved along in accordance with their karmic actions.

>He is able as well to observe that, if some particular being had created bad physical karma, bad verbal karma, and bad mental karma, had slandered worthies and āryas, had become completely possessed of wrong views and the causes and conditions of karmic actions associated with wrong views, when his body perished and his life span came to an end, he then became bound for descent into the wretched destinies and was reborn into the hells.

>He is also able to observe that, if yet some other being had created good physical karma, good verbal karma, and good mental karma, had refrained from slandering worthies and āryas, had become completely possessed of right views as well as the causes and conditions of karmic actions associated with right views, then, when his body perished and his life span came to an end, he then became bound for rebirth into the good destinies and for ascent into the heavens.

>The bodhisattva’s heavenly eye is able to observe all of these circumstances in accordance with the way they really are.
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>>544529854
So how can you be a Catholic without accepting one of the main theological doctrines? Not to mention if the Trinity is formulated, then do you still believe that jesus is god?
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>>544529873
He's also purple. I always liked that part. Which sutra is that?
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>>544529912
that's from the Flower Adornment Sutra (we're not supposed to post it on the internet)
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God has no religion
Love is the greatest realization
Nearly impossible to embody;
meant only for gods
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>>544529912
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>>544529895
Is the purpose of a church to convey men to God and God's will to men, or to observe church doctrine?

When God calls us, we answer. Shall we shape our own church for Him, and in doing so lose the advantages the establishment gives us in deepening our relationship?

Even with the distillment of ego into service, discernment remains. I believe that reality is too complex for us to understand, and as such we are given guides.
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>>544529854
>me and God
I have never said this to anyone but forget about being Catholic. You don’t have what it takes at all.
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>>544529953
I thought I recognized it, I've spent a lot of time in that sutra. I was actually thinking about doing a full orated YouTube video of it. I was inspired by my great teacher, who has many videos on YouTube of the Amitabha sutra and such.
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>>544530036
Anon, I do not believe you are a Christian, for my brothers are those that would not walk, bleating and neighing, into a rapid, if their parents proceeded them.

Your heart is in the wrong place. Come to Jesus Christ.
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>>544530037
that translation is excellent, it's always open on my laptop. I myself recite one of the ten Boddhisattva grounds each day – you should make a video. Chapter 37 would be neat
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>>544529990
There must be some objective truth and there must be some things that you believe in. I'm asking you what you personally believe in. Do you believe jesus was god?
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Based
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>>544530036
kek, he's probably just clinically retarded
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Samantabhadra next said that, if a bodhisattva wishes to swiftly fulfill all the bodhisattva practices, he should cultivate ten dharmas, namely:

His mind never abandons any being;
He envisions all bodhisattvas as tathāgatas;
He never slanders any dharma of the Buddha;
He realizes that all lands are endless;
He feels deep faith and delight in the bodhisattva practices;
He never relinquishes a bodhi resolve that is commensurate with empty space and the Dharma realm;
He contemplates bodhi and enters the powers of the Tathāgata;
He is energetically diligent in cultivating unimpeded eloquence;
He is tireless in teaching beings; and
He abides in any world with a mind free of attachments.

Samantabhadra next said that, after the bodhisattva securely abides in these ten dharmas, he is then able to fulfill ten kinds of purity which in turn lead to his fulfillment of ten kinds of vast knowledge, after which he succeeds in entering ten kinds of universal penetration and then in abiding in ten kinds of supremely sublime mind.
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>>544530036
you're discouraging people from Catholicism and pretending to pray to Jewish angels, why is that?
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>>544530165
He sounds like an addict, likely infested with multiple demons. These are the people we have to ensure don’t show up to Mass to steal the Host for occult rituals. It’s getting really bad especially in urban areas. The boomers aren’t prepared for the level of spiritual warfare currently occurring
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>>544530253
"jewish angels" and is just moloch and bophamet lol
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>>544530253
You're talking about some shitjeet shit in a thread about catholicism. Why is that?
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You like Gothic Cathedrals and Baroque art, but theres no reason that any of that has to have a dead jew on it. It would be better to have Dionysus or Athena on it
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>>544530131
I believe that the machinations described therein that part of history by the Bible are knowledge that was given to me to craft what I am as a living being. The idea of faith to me is more complex than "did x happen"
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>>544530272
Who is he? He is Osiris.

As for what exists, that means his injury.
Otherwise said: That means his corpse.
Otherwise said: It means eternity and everlasting.
As for eternity, it means daytime;
as for everlasting, it means night.
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>>544530306
They’re demons. Djinn
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>>544530318
Alright that's cool. Do you believe jesus is god? Either he is or he isn't. Which one is it?
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>>544530306
Because I'm Jesus.
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>>544530323
There it is. There is your name demon.
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>>544530327
Worse. He's a lindu.
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>>544530345
The Egyptian gods are demons
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>>544530349
19 * 17 is?
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>>544529753
>reddit
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>>544530380

Rude af
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>>544530272
>The boomers aren’t prepared for the level of spiritual warfare currently occurring

damn you're right, is it me or the church has also become weak? We are not called to defend Rome anymore. Just the message of "accept and tolerate everyone" likely mandated by jewish and masonic influeces
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St Jean Marie Vianney ora pro nobis!
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>>544530380
>Hail Mahaf, Master of the Barque, who came forth from Sepa, I have not misconducted myself with a child.
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>>544530345
I reject the simplicity of your perspective. You'd likely have received a similar answer from minds like Bacon (though not Catholic). And various Popes, cardinals, et cetera.

Here's one for you: if a person's mind is more physically complex than yours, might God instill in them thoughts that are difficult for you to understand?
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>>544530419
Attend a diocese approved TLM
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>>544530380
>Hail to you, O you who are in the Hall of Justice, who have no lies in your bodies, who live on truth and gulp down truth in the presence of Heru who is in his disc. Save me from Babai, who lives on the entrails of the old ones on that day of the great reckoning. Behold, I have come to you without falsehood of mine, without crime of mine, without evil of mine, and there is no one who testifies against me, for I have done nothing against him. I live on truth, I gulp down truth, I have done what men say and with which the gods are pleased. I have propitiated Re with what he desires; I have given bread to the hungry, water to the thirsty, clothes to the naked and a boat to him who was boatless, I have given god’s offerings to the gods and invocation offerings to the spirits. Save me, protect me, without your making report against me in the Presence, for I am pure of mouth and pure of hands, one to whom is said “Twice welcome!’ by those who see him because I have heard that great word which the noble dead spoke with the Great Cat in the House of Silence. He who testifies of me is Mahaf, He Who Sees Behind Him, and he gives the cry. I have seen the dividing of the ished tree in Rosetjau, I am he who succours the gods, who knows the affairs of their bodies. I have come here to bear witness to truth and to set the balance in its proper place within the Silent Land.
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>>544527406
>Hey guys, I used to be an atheist and believed things based on empirical evidence. Now I suddenly believe only jews have ever penned divine truth, and that the master of my soul is a jewish cult leader from 2000 years ago who called goyim dogs and died screaming for the god that he claimed that he was.
Uhuh
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Pathetic losers itt.
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>>544530443
You said you can logically explain everything, but you can't even give a straightforward answer to a basic question. I'm asking you to tell me whether jesus falls into the category of god, and what your conclusion to that is. Instead of telling me you're giving me some mumbo jumbo about my perspective being simplistic, throwing away your initial claim that you could explain things rationally.
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>>544530443
>avoids question by sniffing his own farts
Amazing
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>>544530456
I will, thanks for the advice. Also brah don’t argue with these trolls lol they’re a lost cause.
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>>544530539
No, that's not what I said. And you're asking about matters of faith and mysticism, not logic. I understand this might be a stumbling block for ESL. You were misguided in your attempt.
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>>544527406
>I used to be a strong atheist. Now I'm thinking of becoming Catholic.
sounds like you were always retarded
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>>544530539
Demons never give straight answers whereas the Holy Spirit clarifies. Yes, Christ is God the Logos Incarnate. This is what the Catholic Church professes and the early Church is the Catholic Church.
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>>544530530
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZLZpAHFZYI
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>>544530574
So now you're just going to insult me, call me dumb or mock my ability to grasp English. Sir, do you believe jesus is god?
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>>544530593
What do you want clarified, kike?
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>>544527406
Yes pray to GOD THE LORD IS OUR SHEPARD!!!
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>>544530570
Don’t worry mate I’m not arguing with them. I’m posting to gather the lost sheep. Latinmassfinder dot com

Avoid SSPX they are excommunicated. It’s important to be under the local bishop for apostolic succession and efficacy of the Sacraments
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Why are kikes appointing themselves as bouncers for the Catholic Church on 4chan?


Oh, right: Synagogue of Satan.
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>>544530661
This is world-worship.
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>>544530661
thx man! God bless you
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>>544530661
>I have never said this to anyone but forget about being Catholic. You don’t have what it takes at all.

You discouraged him from Catholicism. You're lying, kike. And we all saw it.
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>>544530681
Christ founded a Church. The Catholic Church. With an apostolate. Bishops as the successor of Peter who compiled the Bible.
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>>544530771
>Hebrew Book Worship (in Latin)

kiiiiiiiike
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>>544530724
God bless you on your walk with Christ fren. At my TLM it’s absolutely chock full of young people and families and no one took it (the vax). Hundreds on Sunday and through the week
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>>544530812
oh, and you're on the side of pestilence. the Pope got vaccinated, didn't he?
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>>544530771
No, Christ founded a man, and said that was his church. The man would later sin against him on his dying day.

This is pretty much the most important part of the Bible to you.
>No, he meant a bunch of dudes wearing outfits that didn't exist at the time
Lol
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>>544530812
Pope Francis and Pope emeritus Benedict XVI have both received their second and final dose of the COVID-19 vaccine, a Vatican source confirmed.
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God bless all true seekers lurking itt. Sts Jean Marie Vianney et Claude de la Colombiere orate pro nobis!
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>>544529768
The brain the heart and the gut are three different thinking organs but they're all still part of the same organism.
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>>544530939
>Hail Wepwawet, O Opener of the Ways, who came forth from Saka, Black Jackal, I have not lost the path, I have not misled others.
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>>544530939
Repeat latin all you want, did you perform a charitable act at your last opportunity? In this thread you've taken the power of God into your own mouth, speaking for him, deciding grace for yourself.
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>>544527650
>They could be starting free public universities by now with all that money. Globally.
They could. But they're not THAT evil. Not yet.
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>>544531013
Hehe. Okay, public uhh. Playgrounds or something.

The prices are so absurd. I bought a friend's daughter her first Lincoln logs instead
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Latinmass dot com
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>>544530812
fml man, man. When I was in my freshman year of high school, my school took us all to the basketball court and gave us a shot of the vax without previous notice, then they did the same a couple of weeks after that. I never told my parents because I didn't know what was going on at the time
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>>544530987
that poster is definitely a kike. if they can't discourage people from Christ / Catholicism, they'll misdirect them – notice how he insisted on the "traditional latin mass" and prayed to "Michael" (Jewish Angel), not Jesus

>>544531095
did Jesus speak any Latin?
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why insist on Latin? Because they want to create a future schism.
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>>544527406
You're not a real atheist or a real Christcuck, you're a true LARPer.
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>>544531140
>did Jesus speak any Latin?
Yes he did, he spoke in Latin with pontius pilate
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>>544531112
It was a military operation controlled by Satan at the helm. Those who did this to innocents like children and those who could not consent and have not repented will burn in hell. Don’t worry you were a kid and didn’t know. Just don’t take any more vaccines and tell others what you know. I lost everything warning others about what this was. Those people in the gym who injected you? They’re in deep shit.
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>>544531234
oh really... did it work?
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>>544531200
it was for centuries the universal language of the church retard
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>>544531234
Bravo
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>>544531258
you said was, is it not any more?
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>>544531258
It still is. All the announcements are in Latin and Mass is said in Latin daily at St Peters. You can listen on Vatican Radio. They even have the news in Latin
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>>544531253
Yes, Jesus Christ conquered they entire world
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>>544531258
Which of those did you live in?
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>>544531309
thanks bro!
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>>544531244
>encouraging pestilence; insisting the use of medicine will send you to Hell

you really can't help yourself, can you?
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>>544531311
>Yes, Jesus Christ conquered they entire world

That's not true. Look to the East.
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>>544531337
There is an app kek. Latin is easy and demons hate it. Look at them protesting and squealing itt about it. Latin cannot be changed which is why it must be used for the Mass. So when they say it is a dead language that is what they mean. Not that no one uses it but that it is immutable. It’s only protestant propaganda that gives dead a negative connotation. Latin is used all day everyday in the Church
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>>544531430
what's the name of the app?
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So the Synagogue of Satan is now pretending to be "Traditional Latin Catholics" – neat, but you're still fucked. lol

>>544531430
no Latin is not used all day everyday in the Church. you compulsively have to lie, don't you
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>>544531478
Radio Vaticana ofc!
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>>544527406
>What was that feeling?...
The Holy Ghost.
Seek it gain, and again. And again.

Welcome Home.
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>>544527406
>For some reason I felt inspired to pray to God and ask him to help others the way I had helped someone today.
>It felt ridiculous, but I also felt it in my body when I prayed. It's indisputable. What was that feeling?...
Think about society as an organism. A cell is fulfilling it's function when it is contributing to the organism positively.
You just did that and you feel extatic.
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>>544531484
kek sub100iq pajeet
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>>544531533
have you ever heard of Lord Vishnu?
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>>544531511
It's strange that despite rejecting the trinity as unprincipled earlier in the thread, that's also what I thought it was at the moment. A powerful feeling.
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>>544531531
I am the Golgi Apparatus of God?
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>>544527564
Hopefully this didn't happen and some schizo just made it up
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>To be Catholic you must kneel on, specifically, your right knee during Mass

Do they also uncover their right shoulder, I wonder?
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>>544531581
Look at your ID. That's what you are.
You do gey stuff.
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>>544531711
hahahahahhahahahah
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>>544531533
... or perhaps Shiva?
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>>544531736
man i dont care about the Tom Pearl poop eating cow fucker demons that you worship
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>>544531554
What's the logic you used to deduce feeling about doing a good deed = Christianity?
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>>544531770
There's that lack of reading comprehension again
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>>544531765
... how's your Karma?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoYZf-lBF_U
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>>544531811
I never sleep, cause sleep is the cousin of death
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>>544531795
Afraid to answer questions? Why is that?
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>>544531840
>The Great One falls upon his side, he who is in Nedit quakes. O N, lift up your head, says Re. Detest sleep, hate inertness, be far from them as Horus, that you may live; be readier than they as Sopdu, that you may live; be more of a soul than they as the Two Souls, that you may live.
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>>544531888
Afraid of being able to repeat what you read without altering it? Honest question

Do you think God is in the camp of liars?
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>>544531920
Damn I didn't know New York mid 90s hip hop was so connected to ancient Egyptian prophecy. We wuz kangz?

>Euphrates State of Mind
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>>544527406
You don't have to talk to anyone at mass. That's the nice thing about going to a big Catholic church instead of some small Prot "church" in a house where the pastor asks you to do a meet and greet and shit.

But do you always avoid being in the vicinity of other people or what? How do you live? Do you go to work? Maybe you have bigger problems than just not attending church. But it would be a good first step.

also
>Do Gey ID
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>>544531937
>what you read without altering it?
What exactly did I alter?
>Do you think God is in the camp of liars?
Which "God" did you have in mind when typing this? And why?
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>>544532000
I have to be honest with you, when people are argumentative but fail to read for comprehension, their words just kind of become random jumbles and I forget what they're typing as soon as I read it

I mean no offense, but if you want to contend with people you have to be a contender
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>>544531973
you didn't know

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T17YRtYcvIs
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>>544531978
I just don't like them in general. People are too poorly behaved as a group. However, this attitude prevents you from experiencing extremely enriching and productive relationships
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>>544532061
>I have to be honest with you
Are saying you've been lying this whole time?

So, I'll ask again. What did I supposedly alter and which God did you have in mind and why?
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>>544532094
You sound a bit autistic
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>>544532092
Used to grab my culture cipher, now it's the 5-7
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>>544532141
All sufficiently intelligent people are "a bit autistic". Neural patterning complexity removes you from basic society.
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>>544527406
If youre going to become religious, follow your ancestral pre-christian religion, always avoid abrahamic slop, that includes judaism and islam. Christianity is basically the goyslop of religions.
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>>544531554

some resources for you.

There is so much out there. Two thousand years of philosophy, theology, muisic, literature, art, architecture, etc. etc. Your journey has only begun.

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This guy was like a Vatican Adjudicator (a la the High Table in John Wick). He was a traditional Catholic who would travel around and set the clergy straight. It can be trying sometimes to listen to the audio is bad and he was old, but it is pure Catholic Theology.

Father John A. Hardon, S.J. Video Archives
http://archive.therealpresence.org/archives/Video/video.htm


These are sedevantists. Some are still alive and still preaching. These are the older videos, they are the best.
What Catholics Believe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stwHqq3IyEM&list=PLpEVbcTQi1Uif_1Tz7Rfp_1LjObhaaQ81


Guess what the number one prime time television show in America was during the 1950’s. a Catholic Bishop giving lectures. Can you fucking believe it?
The complete Fulton Sheen video & audio library
https://fultonsheen.com/full-video-audio-library/


The Catholic Encyclopedia, circa 1912.
New Advent
https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/a.htm


This guy is cool, he does some history stuff and debunks a lot of cultural memes floating around about Catholicism that everyone believes but are complete bullshit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rw2pgmkr7DA


Remember, always – get your information about Catholicism FROM Catholics! Not jews, not atheists, not Protestants.
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>>544532194
>sniffing hos own farts intensifies
Lol
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>>544532194
>Hail Re-Horakhty, O Far Strider who came forth from Heka-adj, Prospering Sceptre, I have done no evil, I have seen no evil.

>“entering the sphere of non-differentiation through the awesome power of the bodhisattva.”

The moon shines brightly only in a stainless sky, and therefore, at this point I must once again exert myself in order to reach the stage where the ten powers of a buddha are produced. I must attain the highest stage of a buddha, the place of most excellent peace, the incomparable limit to all buddha qualities.

The practice of all the bodhisattvas is to study, reflect and meditate,
Tirelessly, both day and night, without ever straying into idleness,
In order to free oneself and others from this watery abyss,
Right now, you have a good boat, fully equipped and available — hard to find.
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>>544532237
Ancient pre-Christian religions like worship of the moon, menstruation, penises, and war? Bro, the pagans didn't really have it figured out.

The ancient Greeks and Romans endorsed an even batshit crazier view of religion.
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/thread
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>>544532237
OP is a LARP.
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>>544532194
The practice of all the bodhisattvas is to take to solitary places,
Avoiding the unwholesome, so that destructive emotions gradually fade away,
And, in the absence of distraction, virtuous practice naturally gains strength;
Whilst, with awareness clearly focused, we gain conviction in the teachings.
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>>544532289
Still more sane than worshipping a foreign ethnic jew who get his foreskin ripped off btw
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>>544532396
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>>544532396
*got
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>>544532288
You are an interesting poster anon, so I will share with you that ultimately, my desire is to become Jalabuddha (BuddhaNet Buddha) who extends teachings to virtual, imaginary, yet-to-exist, incomprehensible, etc. beings

It shall not fly above your head, like so many others, that faith in God is a path to the tathagatha. Bless you many times over.
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>>544532396
Jesus was not actually circumcised... and he denounced Jews. It's always racism with you guys, why is that?
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>>544527406
>I did a good deed today at a personal cost, and helped someone greatly. For some reason I felt inspired to pray to God
And what made you decide to pray to your intrepetation of the Christian God?
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>>544532434
I ain't reading all that cope AMA
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>>544530419
Vatican II neutered the Church.
>see explicitly how, picrel.
If you join, understand that context so you know the battle that's ongoing and will continue to be ongoing all throughout your life.

Catholicism is King of Hill, every.one.attacks.it.from.all.sides.

The bad guys have the ball and are driving, we're trying to force a turnover to take possession.
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>>544532460
>Jesus was not actually circumcised
The bible disagrees
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>>544532267
Thanks anon. If I had anything of value to share it is the "Ten Shekels and a shirt" sermon of Paris Reidhead. Please give it a listen if you never have, it's what made me realize the mission of serving God is what's at stake, not heaven or ones own soul.
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>>544532289
>even batshit crazier view of religion

is it really? maybe there's more than one god.
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>>544532507
The one line in the Bible that was inserted into one text as pro-circumcision propaganda and has no evidence behind it?
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>>544532460
Cope. I wish every single christcuck alive would move to israel and stay there forever because thats where your shit nigger religion spawned from. Im going to bed dont even bother with the cope (You)s
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>>544532540
Well, of course there is. That's why I'm on God (the tathagatha)'s team.
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>>544532577
>The one line in the Bible
>"And when eight days were completed for the circumcision of the Child, His name was called Jesus, the name given by the angel before He was conceived in the womb."
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>>544532590
If you cared for Revelations, you wouldn't want anyone to go to "Israel" or be anywhere near the Synagogue of Satan right now but w/e
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>>544532609
The amount or contradictions this clown throws around is amazing
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>>544527406
thanks for reminding me to watch mass today, I'm so lost in this directionless world I forgot what day it was
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>>544532510
I just pulled it up. I will.
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>>544532617
>according to the propaganda, Jesus was circumcised in accordance with Jewish Law

yes, it's political propaganda. Circumcision wasn't universal amongst Jews at the time; Jesus wasn't circumcised at birth. His blood was not shed, nor would Mary have allowed it.
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>>544532688
>according to the propaganda
The bible is propaganda?
>Circumcision wasn't universal amongst Jews at the time
It was
>Jesus wasn't circumcised at birth
He was 8 days after.
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>>544532660
Today is the Feast of St Luke.
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>>544532609
Son of Good Family, we have realized a bodhisattva liberation known as “illusory existence.” Due to having acquired this liberation:

We see all worlds as having a merely illusory existence because they are produced by causes and conditions;
We see all beings as having a merely illusory existence because they are produced by karmic actions and afflictions;
We see everything in the world as having a merely illusory existence because they are all produced from the progressively occurring process of conditioned origination involving the conditions of ignorance, becoming, craving, and so forth;
We see all dharmas as having a merely illusory existence because they are the product of the view imputing the existence of a self and many other kinds of illusory conditions;
We see all three periods of time as having a merely illusory existence because they are the product of the view imputing the existence of a self and other such cognitions arising from inverted views;
We see as having a merely illusory existence all beings’ arising and cessation, their birth, aging, sickness, and death, and their sorrow, lamentation, pain, and affliction because they are all the product of false discriminations;
We see all lands as having a merely illusory existence because they are manifested due to inverted perceptions, inverted thoughts, inverted views, and ignorance;
We see all śrāvaka disciples and pratyekabuddhas as having a merely illusory existence because they are created by the severance of discriminations by cognition;
We see all bodhisattvas as having a merely illusory existence because they are created by the conduct and vows with which they train themselves and teach beings; and
We see all the transformations, training, and other endeavors carried out by all those congregations of bodhisattvas as having a merely illusory existence because they are all brought to fulfillment through their vows and wisdom which themselves are like mere conjured illusions.
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>>544532688
uncut penis is ugly penis that makes men act like niggers, if you are uncut your basically ugly nigger
imo
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>>544532631
You have zero context on what Revelation was referring to
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Know this: tradition will not save you, nor will religion save you. Neither your church nor denomination will save you. Not one ritual will ever save you, but the transformed heart will save you.

The Son did not come into the world to call you to perform rituals in His name. He came into the world to reveal what the Father is like, so that through grace, you may be formed into His likeness.

He Himself said: "Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'"

These are not people who rejected Him. These are people who claim that they did many great works in His name, yet they are told, "I never knew you." Why is this? Because their security was in what is external, not in what is internal.

God does not know you merely by going to church or performing rituals in His name. To know God and to be known by God is through the spirit. This is not to say that you should not go to church, as Jesus said, "You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former."

Many of you are neglecting the former, that is, the growth in the spirit. You have not given up the self and its desires as you were called to do. We have an obligation, to put to death the desires of the flesh through faith and perseverance.

This is what grace is for, so that when you fall, you do not need to be paralyzed in failure, but pick up your mat and walk. Know that you are already forgiven, and that God loves you, even as I love you.

Stop judging by appearances and instead turn to Him sincerely and be formed into His likeness.
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>>544527406
Lmao Catholicism is just as Christ denying. Be a Christian instead
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>>544532749
Who circumcised Jesus? Why is there no record of that, other than one line that was obviously written long, long after his death?
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>>544532817
You literally don't understand Revelation sit the fuck down
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we look forward to seeing you in the human centipede, fag.
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>>544532792
... does your penis work?
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>>544532840
Well, that's the point. I believe the relationship between man and God is personal. Church directs man to a community where he might do more good.
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>>544532840
the Catholic Church denies Christ? How?
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>>544532898
of course it's the best penis ever made, of all the ones I have ever seen in all the porn ever my dick remains the best of them all.
Seethe and cope faggot niggers, if you try to rape me I'll murder you also
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>>544532850
>Who circumcised Jesus?
Under Jewish tradition, the rite was typically performed by the father (Joseph) bit the bible doesn't specify
>Why is there no record of that,
Why is there no record of Jesus between the ages of ~12 to 30?

>>544532863
I bet I understand it better than you
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>>544527406
Based Danish jesusdemon
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>>544532962
are you circumcised, obsessed with genitals, delusional, paranoid, and extremely racist? this is a catholic thread
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>>544532924
>I believe the relationship between man and God is personal.
Which God did you have in mind when typing this?
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>>544532971
so somebody shed Jesus' blood at birth, after he had been visited by the Magi, but it's not specified who did this?

or is it more likely that a single line of pro-circumcision propaganda written on a piece of paper thousands of years ago for jewish reasons?
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>>544527406
You should sauce great works of art when posting, to help enrich us all.

Artist: Gerard Seghers (1591–1651)
Title: The Resurrection of Christ (French: La Résurrection du Christ)
Date: c. 1620
Medium: Oil on canvas
Dimensions: 324 × 240 cm
Location: Musée du Louvre, Paris (Inventory number: RF 1990
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>>544533007
I am firmly against all things nigger, posters who post about muh glorious uncut dick being sooo much better ARE NIGGERS
Catholics are like timid beings who truly don't know anything and depend entirely on the word of others these days rather than God. Everyone is like this, but I got their back because without them I wouldn't have been born. I have come into this thread to remind people that being cut is good, having an uncut dick turns you into a seething cope filled spiteful cheesedick nigger.
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>>544533094
>so somebody shed Jesus' blood at birth, after he had been visited by the Magi, but it's not specified who did this?
Sounds like a problem you have with the bible

>or is it more likely that a single line of pro-circumcision propaganda written on a piece of paper thousands of years ago for jewish reasons?
Maybe but that doesn't make sense since Paul, a Pahrisee was against the physical act for religious reasons
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>>544533101
I must admit I was ignorant to the specific origin of the work thank you for illuminating it it's a beautiful painting
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>>544532863
i think its you who doesnt understand revelations

jews can literally write down their entire plan to conquer and permenantly gentile nations, and you will be physically incapable of grasping it. your siding with jews who are attempting to eradicate spirituality and gods worship from the world via your jew worship has effectively resulted in divinity excommunicating you. so simple things that you take for granted in every other area of your life, like the rational part of your brain, becomes completely inaccessible to you. and worse, its missing access is itself unknown to you, which is where things get really bizarre.

they literally wrote down their entire plan and then gave it to you, made it complimentary to you in every hotel room on earth, and you literally cannot process what it says. theres this huge chunk of reality which is just walled off to you. so maybe you should consider the possibility everything ive just said is the truth, and how, or rather IF there is a way restore the gods' faith in you.
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>>544533178
There are many problems with the Bible and Judaism – they lie about everything, and they've been doing it for thousands of years
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>>544527600
Christianity was a danish conspiracy all along??
>mfw several danish kings were named "Christian"
Der ewige Däne...
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>>544533131
are you mad at black people, or your dick, or maybe your mom?
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>>544533247
>There are many problems with the Bible and Judaism
Sure but that wasn't the argument. You said Jesus wasn't circumcised and I said the bible disagrees and I'm right.
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>>544533260
Tribe of Dan? LonDANE.
checkmate atheists.
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>>544533281
I'm not mad, I am an alchemical stone made by mad scientist masons of pure bottled wrath
Just take my word for it, if you are uncut you belong to the niggers and their ways
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>>544533314
Jesus wasn't actually circumcised; yes "the Bible" disagrees (but that part isn't true, it's propaganda, and it wasn't written by Jesus)
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>>544533335
gold.
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>>544533368
his mom trekked something like 80 kilometers right after pooping out the baby to have his dick gobbled on by a certified mohel
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82cdnAUvsw8
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>>544533368
>Jesus wasn't actually circumcised
Well the bible disagrees and your own argument isn't a logical one
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>>544527406
>What was that feeling?...
thats the holy spirit
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>>544529854
>the trinity is a medieval invention that isn't described in the Bible
Curious, because you also say:
>>544527967
>the Earth doesn't operate on a logical basis, nor do humans.
>>544529990
>reality is too complex for us to understand

The Trinity as a paradoxical dogma would be the perfect way to teach believers the epistemic humility that you seem to think is a good thing. So shouldn't trinitarianism be right up your alley? It's a literal reminder set in stone by various church councils that humans aren't capable of comprehending ultimate reality in a logical model.
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>>544533493
>the bible disagrees

okay that's the end of the discussion i suppose.
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>>544533335
jews live in bizzaro world. genital mutilation is the most nigger thing ever, probably even above eating your own baby.
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>>544533335
>>544533592
forgot pic
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>>544533581
I guess so
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>>544533471
>As for those things which the gods detest, they are faeces and falsehood.

>All Vedic knowledge is infallible, and Hindus accept Vedic knowledge to be complete and infallible. For example, cow dung is the stool of an animal, and according to smṛti, or Vedic injunction, if one touches the stool of an animal he has to take a bath to purify himself. But in the Vedic scriptures cow dung is considered to be a purifying agent. One might consider this to be contradictory, but it is accepted because it is Vedic injunction, and indeed by accepting this, one will not commit a mistake; subsequently it has been proved by modern science that cow dung contains all antiseptic properties. So Vedic knowledge is complete because it is above all doubts and mistakes, and Bhagavad-gītā is the essence of all Vedic knowledge.
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>>544529854
Jesus and God are one

• John 10:38: Jesus expands on this unity, saying, "...the Father is in me, and I am in the Father".
• John 14:9: Philip asks Jesus to show them the Father, and Jesus responds, "Whoever has seen me has seen the Father"

Jesus (who is God)is with is in spirit

John 14:16–18 (The Promise of the Helper/Spirit):“And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever—the Spirit of truth... I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you.”

1,2,3
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>>544533566
>The Trinity as a paradoxical dogma would be the perfect way to teach believers the epistemic humility that you seem to think is a good thing. So shouldn't trinitarianism be right up your alley?

No, it's simply something made up by man. Do not attribute to unknowable mysticism that which is obviously, by mundane analytical means, attributable to the hands of man.

You understand that the holy trinity came out of Pythagorean thought, right?
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>>544533904
>>544533566
By the way "whoa they're three things but he is also one" is not remotely hard to understand or envision. Maybe for people who literally did not experience the concept of fiction or have access to any philosophical or religious ideas foreign to them?..

It's just literally not even complex in any way. I envision reality as a recursive hologram.
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>>544533999
It's impossible to understand!!!!
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>>544534046
not for us. for some it is very hard to understand.
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>>544534071
I feel like anime has more complex concepts, lol

This is actually a spiritually important concept -- I believe being adept at envisioning complex and mystical ideas helps one evaluate them and understand more about the possible shape of reality.

See also: Huayan Buddhism
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>>544534185
... and if you were only capable of thinking like an LLM - those complex or mystical thoughts would be entirely out of reach. You would only be able to focus on this world, and would only be able to interpret it through words or tokens.

sad, isn't it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNum9eEZ6Ok
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>>544534185
Are you Mahayana or Theraveda? I studied Ch'an Buddhism for a while.
I really dig the concept of "Dependent Origination", that one blew my mind.
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>>544533863
The first part is indisputable, the second part would seem to demand another book of the Bible. The holy Spirit is equivalent to God and Jesus but is mentioned for one sentence? It seems to me to mean the lingering presence of him in the believers symbolically. The word pneuma is used in Corinthians to refer specifically to the resurrected Christ. It's a way of saying "I am with you still" like footprints in the sand, I don't see any cause to codify that as a major tenant of religion.

And again, if you are anything of a scholar you understand the melange that Christianity actually is-- Pythagoreans, highly influential in academia around that time, saw 2 as evil and 3 as good. Put 2 and 2 together and you get 3 in this case. No Terrence Howard.
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>>544534185
you'd probably like Destiny and Control in Human Systems, by Charles Musès – you can find a copy on annas-archive. physical copies are hard to come by
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>>544534380
Tis why I told the guy earlier he could not be a Christian if he vigorously believed and practiced his faith from youth. God is at the end of the farthest reaches of thought. To view him through simplistic codification and rite...well, I guess that serves to bring Him to people like us. Persistence is key.

>>544534419
I'm not a Buddhist, but it has tremendously influenced my spiritual thought. The reason I made this thread about maybe becoming a Catholic instead, is I feel the practice of Buddhism doesn't typically make one "better" in my mind. Huayan is incredibly interesting to me because it views reality as a net of gems, basically an early holographic or multidimensional theory.

Mahayana is much more interesting than Theravada to me. The difference in horsepower is pretty immense. Likewise I see Mahayana contributing to more charitable enterprise, while Theravada seems to contribute more to like, machete fights.

Chatgpt is exceptional for understanding Buddhist thought and studying Sanskrit/Pali.
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>To summarize, then, the supreme universe is a triadic cyclical process that is continually going on, evolving and exploding into myriads of pathlines of potential universes. The concept of the triadic cyclical process is not the same as the triadic nature of Hinduism, which posits three primary forces, Creation (Brahma), Maintenance/Continuing (Vishnu) and Destruction (Shiva) but a triadic form that consists of the Father/Creative Impulse (First Intelligence), the Mother-Creatrix-Generator (Second Intelligence) and the Child (Third Intelligence). Thus the universe of universes is an extremely complex union set of essentially all possibilities that form and dissolve subject to certain laws that are for the most part unknown to virtually everyone except for a few mathematicians and realized beings who can conceptualize a universe that is there and at the same time, never was and never will be. The Musès view does not accept the concept of there being an eternal Creator who is outside of the universe itself and who is always separated from the universe. Nor does this view accept the root of evil being with a rebellion from a specific being within the created universe. The creation of the universe is a byproduct of a specific error which was the result of a wrong thought by the Third Intelligence. At some point in this process, the Third Intelligence/Aeon (essentially Father/Mother/Child, where the Third Intelligence is the Child) thought a single thought, that it was self-contained and that through its awareness could bring about the creation of a universe or time-line.
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>>544534551
This week a woman in Pennsylvania was arrested for repeatedly standing in front of a delivery robot. I'll check it out. I thought annas went down, I was going back to IRC for books



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