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Does anybody have legitimate arguments against National Socialism that don’t include misunderstandings as to the true causes of the Second World War?

Why shouldn’t every European country on the planet adopt its own system of National Socialism right now?
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No.
We should.
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White people today aren't fit for national socialism only Germans back then were capable of such order and forward thinking
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How about that Marx was an idiot wannabe sociologist?
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>>544532908
Not that it's probably relevant to your question, but the Nazis were socialist in name only.
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>>544532908
The problem with National Socialism is that it is wrapped up in the personality cult of Hitler. This is really the problem with right wing authoritarianism in general. It works when you have a good leader who genuinely cars for the people. Lee Kuan Yew in Singapore is a great example.

But the problem with National Socialism was a problem of Hitler. He let his personal beliefs and delusions cloud his decision making which ultimately led to his undoing. Kind of the same thing with Italian Fascism and Mussolini

Ultimately NatSoc is too restrictive. Mid-20th century American liberalism is superior. Really something that's a mid-point of those two ideologies would probably be the greatest ever
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>>544532908
because america and russia would invade any country that attempts it or maybe even nuke it (america has bases in europe for this reason not to counter russia lmao) plus europeans despite what /pol/tards claim still seethe over hitler due to media and school brainwash and would not support any government even remotely similar, also the 30% immigrants in each country would start demolishing stuff like in france now
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>>544533121
>Mid-20th century American liberalism
Is what led to America in its current form. That's like saying the mid point of your fall after jumping off a building is superior because wow you are flying. In isolation, sure, but there is still an inevitable splat.
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>>544532908
It was all funded by mefo bills and slaveshit work, monarchism without monarch if you want.
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>>544532908
Stalin's ideology was better and more successful
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>>544533223
India was 50% of British gdp
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>>544532908
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>>544533280
>submitting yourself to the state like a prostitute
Ask me how I know you masked and vaxxed, cattle
Even in your own imagination, you're submissive to other men and centralised authority (other men). Fucking surreal
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>>544533301
Yup. NS is a shit ideology like communism, monarchism, capitalism and what not. Window dressing for the slavery underneath.
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>>544533348
If you hate the state so much, go live in the woods
No one cares
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>>544532908
Fascism is when the people exist for the store rather than the store existing for the people. Communists identify fascism with capitalism for attempting to appreciate the usefulness of the corporations by taking control of them instead of dismantling them, invariably leaving some capitalists in charge of their industries, but this isn’t imparting the functionality of capitalism to socialist ends instead what happens is you marry corporations to the state. The corporations now can’t be allowed to fail so they get bailed out and hitler indeed had to do bail outs. An unopposed peace time natsoc society would see failing unionized monopolies get continuously bailed out with printed money as inflation goes out of control and production gets further off base. Government being involved in everything stifles new development, people doing business in nazi germany described it has having to be connected or pay bribes at every checkpoint and to every random nazi who crossed your path or came into your store.
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>>544532908

There was a chance it would have lost track of the mission objectives if it had succeeded. Political systems always come with a lot of inertia. But that is about it. Their tendency for grandiose projects could have proven .... fertile.
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>>544533415
Would be nice if itd be that easy but the taxman likes to take a visit there too.
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>>544532908
Closed borders and law enforcement is not popular apparently.
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>>544533175
That's why I said something slightly more right wing would probably be better, but by any objective measure, the American Liberalism of the 1930s-1950s was the best type of political ideology in American history. That's the time period when we were the most industrious and prosperous and it led to our greatest era of art and cultural relevance in the 1950s-1990s.

Most of the problem policies were enacted in the mid to late 1960s when true leftism and communism began to infect a lot of Democrat political leaders. But before then, the kind of freedom espoused by America was actually good and meaningful
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>>544534143
I don't disagree. An indefinite golden age like that would be a grand thing. Obviously we can't know what direction national socialism would have evolved in had Germany won the war but I like to think that the authoritarianism would inevitably grow more lax because there would be no more need for a militaristic hierarchic state because the people would be on the same page on what matters and there'd be no external threats, with america and germany converging towards this central right wing governance high personal liberty point from opposite directions. No way of being proven right or wrong, however.



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