>But they were Bactrian therefore Iranic or something!They were Oghur Turkic Equestrians and that's a good thing! Bactrians were already completely sedentary and had no linguistic influence on Old Church Slavonic!
>>544541775bump
>>544542428I was completely shocked yesterday how despite all the evidence, Bulgarians believe their country had no Oghuric foundations. It's like Anti-Normanism in certain Russian circles except predominant.
Ogres?
>>544541775Those dresses are fully Finno-Iranian (aka Scythian-ish) though
>>544542603>Anti-Normanism in certain Russian circles except predominant.I don't know anything about Bulgaria and Oghurs, but this points was always weird to me. Its simply a fact that Rus was united either peacefully or through conquest by Scandis who assimilated with locals almost immediately. At the time there was barely any difference between us, balts, fins and nords, basically same religion, extremely similar language. There is a reason why Germans were named niemcy but everyone else had a proper name. I think Anti Normanists fundamentally misunderstand history and think Scandinavian rulers somehow diminishes Rus as slavic state.
>>544542653It's Oghur!
>>544542710Çăvaş clothing is strongly influenced by Mari clothing especially Virjal. >>544542823Bulgaria runs on a direct equivalent of Anti-Normanism for themselves denying the Oghuric roots of Bulgaria just because the Osman Dynasty took away their honor who also happened to speak Turkic albeit Oghuz.
Its normal for them not to want to be associated with mongoloid chinkeyed steppe nobodies.Its either pander to the "European" nexus or the mongoloid islamic nexus promoted by Turkey.Its a no brainer to them.
>>544544728Most Çăvaş are Orthodox Christian or otherwise believers of their own version of Tengriism. Linguistic groups don't necessarily dictate religion or visa versa.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vattisen_Yaly
>>544541775Bulgars were from volga even we in albania know this
>>544544965Almost all Turkic speakers are mudslimes today.And Bulgaria isnt a Turkic speaking country.Unlike Hungary and Turkey the mongoloids were never able to push their language to the conquered agriculturalists.Its normal that the Bulgars have no need to larp the Turanic nonsense.Especially since the Turanic nonsense is preached by anatolian gypsies.
>>544545070Actually founded a state called Old Great Bulgaria on the Pontic Steppe but one branch went to the Danube under Asparukh, the other branch went to the Volga under Kotrag after the Avars and Khazars destroyed Old Great Bulgaria.
>>544545217Exactly.The story of Avars, Khazars, Magyars, Bulgars and Tatars is one of constant war and escape from the steppe corridor.Its quite normal that a settled Slavic-speaking people would have no interest in this.
>>544545136Denying your nation's founders is sinful. >>544545311Slavs are fighting to mutual destruction in Ukraine today.
tasty chebureks super easy to make do it
>>544545420>Denying your nation's founders is sinfulA millenium has passed.Those people have zero relation to a bunch of mongoloids living in yurts.In Bulgaria there are more statues to Spartacus then to any of those mongoloids.
>>544545217yes, the jews, the khazars were the ancient Bulgar enemythe Bulgar split up because of the horde coming Bulgars were using runes for writing only surviving Bulgars are now part of Russia (Kazan) and the danube bulgaria, which is made of 3 peoples, Bulgar, Slavs and Tracians Bulgars lead a campaign against Bizantium, uniting the 3 peoplesBulgars are not turcik, Bulgars are cousins of Tatars
>>544545542>Bulgars are not turcik, Bulgars are cousins of TatarsThe original Bulgars were Turkic.As the Tatars are Turkic.
>>544545542>Bulgars are cousins of TatarsTatars are turkic tho
>>544545443Ooh Çibörekler! That is Qırım Tatar... Looks tasty and I enjoy their music too! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kc8rKa11EzI
>>544545604>>544545597well , is Stalin Turkic ?
>>544545604Anything ending with -ar is Turkic or Turkic-annexed.Tatar, Bulgar, Khazar, Magyar, Avar, etc.
>>544545420>denying your nations foundation Tell that to the anatolian and azeris larping as mongoloid chink turks
>>544545667Stalin was a Georgian dwarf cavedweller.Although Turkey is composed of many Turkified Georgians and Armenians.
>>544545667>StalinWasnt he georgian?
>>544545674languageRussian and Bulgarian are the same, except Russian is un-upgraded and ancient Magyar language is very different
>>544545753Magyar is Finno-Uralic.An eskimo language.Bulgar is a Slavic vernacular.
>>544545070>even we knowWhy cant you people do anything but lie?
>>544545818the world Bulgar come from Latin Vulgarand Vulgar is someone from Volga riverand Vulgar curse a lot all the timeand those are modern and ancient Bulgarsyou went from Volga - a big river - to Danube - a big river
>>544545542Turkic needn't mean an Osmanlı from Anadolu in it's diverse entirety.
>>544546002Bulgars and Russians have potato headscase closed
>>544545931>The word Bulgar is most commonly derived from the Proto-Turkic root bulga-, which means "to mix," "to stir," or "to produce a state of disorder".>>544546002Turkic is an identity explicitly tied down to the gypsy anatolian state.Since its the largest demographic Turkic speaking state.Its normal for people not to want to be associated with such a state through Pan-Turkism.
>>544545931No Bulgar comes from the Turkic word which means to "Disturb, cause trouble". Volga is a Slavic Word and Vulgar is a Latin root completely unrelated to each other.
>>544546054So do I though...
>>544546233You live on this board you fat slob.You are always here with this mongoloid nonsense.
>>544545746Yes, rumored distant South Ossetian family origins based on the first root of his surname.
>>544546295
>>544546137Buggary is when Bulgars came to teach you how to fuck little boysVulgar - to curse a lot - is how you refer to the people that does itlike Vandalsand it comes from Volga, the river, and the people that came from therealso the word Rus, means blonde, the Rus people were blonde, this is how you call blonde someone rus because the people had the property there is a city in Bulgaria - Ruse , this is where the Rus live
>>544541775Mmm hmm
>>544546385First came from Bogomilism. Second is true but not from Volga, two separate roots. Rus comes from the Finnic word for a Swede. As for the city, could be true.
>>544546385>also the word Rus, means blonde, the Rus people were blonde, this is how you call blonde someone rus because the people had the propertyRus means rower.
>>544546528we say Evropanot Europabecause, back in the day Bulgars from Volga did not even have a name for the continent and they read the Bizantium letter letter for letter not knowing V and UB is V in Bulgarian
>>544546528>Rus comes from the Finnic word for a Swede.More mongoloid nonsense.Rus is an Old Norse word.Not Finnic or Slavic.
>>544546566Rus is boat related yes, but it means blonde, because those people were blondeand Goth means cooland Kelesh (a mongolian recon soldier ) mean mean/bold
>>544546713Your etymologies are all wrong.But you are balkanic so its fine.
>>544546881we don't say Orangewe say Portocalthanks Purtugal for importing that fruit
>>544546295He is a bozgor sub-animal, what did you expect. Imagine living next to these mindless sacks of protoplasma, all day long yapping about their we-wuzzing horseshit.
>>544546707Seethe. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D1%83%D1%81%D1%8C
>>544547090>Memeflag.
>>544546639Sad. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Slavic/v%D1%8Clg%D1%8Ak%D1%8A
>>544547290from Proto-Finnic *roocci (“Swedes”), probably from Old Swedish Roþrin, the name of a region of Sweden lying opposite Finland (see Roden).[1] Cognate with Finnish Ruotsi, Estonian Rootsi.Can you read your own sources or does your wannabe mongoloid brain get mixed up.
>>544547726That's what I am trying to say, borrowed from Norse via a Finnic intermediary, I get bored of winning internet arguments.
>>544546707>Rus is an Old Norse word.Roðr is old norse for rowingRhos is welsh for moor, heath, or open uplandRuotsi is proto finnic for rowers Rus is a word for specific color among all slavic languagesRussus is latin for reddish color There is a city in Bulgaria Ruse, it has 0 connections to Scandinavians. This word is simply too widespread among indo european languages to claim singular originTo claim Rus as Old Norse is simply false and no one knows the truth to be entirely honest, Nordic origin theory only came to exist when yids came to we wuz in their usual style yiddish Gottlieb Siegfried Bayer presented the ideayiddish Gerhard Friedrich Müller refined the ideayiddish August Ludwig von Schlözer cemented the idea
>>544547893the rus viking were marauding everywhere there was river / sea . Most other settlements had to be 2 days walks from the coast to be safe only the rus could have coastal / river towns
>>544548002>Most other settlements had to be 2 days walks from the coast to be safeMost european settlements were built on rivers.
>>544548061only if there a was fort and/or the area could be defendedall other coastal settlement were sacked only in modern times you have return to the coast line with front line propertiesback in the day this was suicide, a boat will land and kill you and take your shit
>>544547893Those would be different false friends. This is ultimately the Indo-European word for a rower but it became conflated with Swedes specifically from Roden in Uppland by Finns and other Chudes who borrowed that word from those Norse.
>>544548512Here it is. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Indo-European/h%E2%82%81reh%E2%82%81-
>>544548160The Norse put this to the test with the sack of Paris. But they also traded too weren't purely raiders.
>>544548512>>544548599There are two PIE words *h1reh1- (row) and *h1rewdʰ- (red), Rhos was the only false friend.
>>544547893>To claim Rus as Old Norse is simply false and no one knows the truth to be entirely honest, Nordic origin theory only came to exist when yids came to we wuz in their usual styleMore anti-Normanist slop from Stalins slaves.
>>544548160Europe did not start with vikings, it existed before and most settlement before, during and after vikings were always built on rivers, because they were not only roads of old world but also natural defensive layers. Its THE reason why vikings were even successful, because europe as a whole though of rivers as impenetrable. >>544549059>anti-Normanist slop from Stalins slaves.Its public knowledge, no one connected Rus to Swedes before those 3 yids.
>>544549174>no one connected Rus to Swedes before those 3 yids.Primary chronicle doesnt exist.
>>544548765That would be three false friends. I do question though if later speakers of Indo-European would confuse meanings themselves as time went by. English is absolutely chock full of such even with different spellings such as Book and Buck and so forth or the most recent addition Cuck vs Cook.
>>544544728This. I honestly don't give a fuck where we come from. I just don't want to be associated with turdks or any other eastern steppe mongloids in any dimension. Simple as.
>>544549639Your country was founded by Oghurs and you will be happy!
>>544549231It did you are still as retarded as you were months ago. People did not deny Varangians and calling of three princes Rurik, Sineus, and Truvor. They were not connected to Russia, only in Sweden (even they only made connection in 16th century).Also speaking of Chronicles >Varangians were known as Ruses, just as some are called Swedes, and others, Normans, Angles, and GotlandersAs you can see Varangians (Ruses) are explicitly listed as separate entities, what does this tell us? That they were not distinctly "swedes", Slavs didn't just call in some "swedes" and random "swedes" came. They specifically called for Varangians named Rus, those people were likely Scandinavians who were already involved with slavs through trade or raiding I fucking hate your brown subhuman nigger brain, you are incapable of seeing nuisance and don't care about fundamental truth. Its like trying to explain to a nigger why Poles and Russians are not same entity
>>544549762country was founded on the hate of Rome 7 Slavic tribes hated Rome Tracians hated RomeBulgars were writhing with runes and were dressed in iron and with the help of the local slavs and tracians, defeated Rome
>>544549799True because the Kingdom of Sweden was founded after Kievan Rus was founded, Proto-East Norse or Ancestral Tribe of or related to Swedes might be more accurate. Regardless Bulgarians treat the truth too politically rather than factually.
>>544549974Thank you for conceding this because that's true. Mind you the Hellenised Thracians also were on Byzantine side as well.
>>544541775It's funny to call them Tatars but Blugaria was a great medieval state once and early medieval Bulgaria contributed greatly to south Slavs.This is the most praise Bulgarians will get from me, back to baiting them I go.
>>544550128thracians are native balkanoids - romanians slav are balto-slav - polesbulgars come from volga rivermodern Bulgaria is a zoo
>>544545931>the world Bulgar come from Latin VulgarKek.
>>544550184This is true. Volga Bulgaria was also extremely rich and their descendants still speak their old Turkic tongue.
>>544550247It almost disappeared under the Thracian Theme but then a Cuman saved it and started the Asen Dynasty. Please say thank you!
>>544550298Ideally Bulgarians would go back to their roots, migrate to Russia and give us the land.
>>544550451No they have to sell to Çăvaş but you can have Kosovo, it's yours.
>>544550661Bulgarians invented an alphabet too(runes > glagolitza > Cyrillic )while serbo niggers and romani gypsies are using roman script and have to add funny dots and lines
>>544550785Çăvaş Yal still has runes buried in old graves, embroidery and still preserves a numerical system. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuvash_numerals
>>544550785Invent a non Asiatic name for yourself.
>>544551058𐠀 I use this to spell Ж
>>544551178Could be a coincidence but it could also be a borrowed numerical rune which influenced Ⰶ.
>>544549799Wall text of moscovite suine coping.Lol.You are a frozen balkaner.A tundra nigger.
>>544549974Thracians did not hate Rome when some of them became emperors.
>>544551776Maximinus Thrax was a Balkan-approved retard.
>>544551532this nigga wrote scissors
>>544551769i accept your concession
>>544551864Galerius will never not be the hilarious Balkan troll of Romans. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galerius
>>544542710eastern Europe is all finno iranian. last week I was having a blast reading a blog by a Ukrainian schizo linguist explaining the names of old villages, towns, rivers and such and saying their origin are iranians, proto kurdish to be specific. my guy even said all of western turkey is proto kurdish which he claimed were part of cimmerian tribes. I love schizophrenic shit like that that make sense and irritates the tiny clitty of academia
>>544552280Scytho-Sarmatians were a contributor to Slavic, Uralic and Oghuric culture.
>>544551935https://youtu.be/e_ayBcrZWJ8?is=2zRrlgZbDbLmrDvqYour own Ministry of Culture refuting your bullshit.
>>544545136>Turanicthat word in old Iranian avestan didn't refer to mongloid tursk. it meant the antonym for aryan. the aryan was a settled civilized person of steppe descend the turan was his barbaric nomad brother who only comes down to the south to iran to plunder the country sidemost important note is they both spoke iranian. today the people who are descendants of turans are linguistically called east iranic, the aryans are weat iranic and indo aryans. but since the turan region of central asia was overrun by turks and the remaining iranians moved out the name turan became synonym with the savage nomad turks
>>544552625>it meant the antonym for aryan.No it didnt.Turanians were Iranic nomadic people.Actually genetical Iranic.In the Shanameh this redacted as the legend of the two brothers.Iraj and Turaj.
