Do you guys still have any hope for the situation in the West? Or have you just accepted that it's basically over and white Christian Europe and white Christian America will be erased in a few decades? Personally, I think the only possible hope would be a civil war in the US leading tona far right dictatorship there. But I think it's extremely unlikely
>>544565374Christcucks lost
>>544566658You are losing.
It’s both over and not over. America has a chance at political resurrection, but Europe does not. As for demographic revitalization, both can suppress immigration from the brown third world but they will have to favor Slavic, Russian, and Asian immigration instead. Either way, we’re both doomed to civilization decline. It’s really just a question of how long it takes and what heights we can reach first. We’re playing for an Augustan Age and then more or less speedy decline.
>>544565374Don't worry, it's only a dialectic to foster religious insurgency within the europeans. The successive steps will be christian nationalism -> internal conflict with islam -> civil war -> jews overplay their hands getting turned against by their golems (including AI causing grid fuckups) -> the vatican intervene as mediator -> rabbinic judaism gets ended and islam makes peace unifying with catholicism through the cult of Mary -> Rerum Novarum gets instituted as a synthesis between right-left-religion -> world peace -> yeeeah we won! [spoiler]you're now under the beast system like an unaware mongoloid, enjoy the mark and eternal damnation retard[/spoiler]
no one wants to murder niggers, jews and traitors cause everyone is afraid of prison
>>544565374christianity, a jewish religion, is over, yes. The west is not, the reaction to finally accepting racism is a good thing will create a generational trauma that will never accept brown people again. 60% of gen z has never even step foot inside a church, compared to 20% that protestants and 15% catholics, with the last 5% being jews, muslims, buddhists, etc. This is down from 90% christian amongst the boomers. 8 catholics leave for ever 1 convert and similar for protestants, whilst non religious people rarely convert to anything. Christianity is dead and its never coming back
I think the West will survive but there's going to be a lot of pain, death, and suffering.
>>544565374Realistically... no. We are done.
>>544566972The opposite is true. Europe can recover but America never had a non masonic culture to begin with.
>>544565374>The West has fallenPutin getting Trump elected and getting him to destroy America will surely be looked at as the coup de grace
>>544567594Isn’t prison a resort where you live? They would probably give you a personal apartment and a PlayStation. It’s not like the USA where you have to join a gang just to not get raped by niggers
>>544567594For the ones who are based enough to do it right now, yes. For normies it's more because they all probably have a brown friend/colleague/etc or several and can't even allow themselves to understand /pol/ rhetoric or politics to begin with, even if they subconsciously know it's true. They would feel evil, and it would be true, any humane person could not do it willingly. This is obviously also by design so that Europeans let themselves be genocided. It takes a very fucked up individual to take responsibility and see the truth and then accept it. Most people are not like that and never will be.
>>544566658that was fucking crazy lolgod is good
>>544568147>i’m scared of being able to play videogames all day in a personal apartment???
>>544567977Even if every Chud in Finland did a full sperg-out it would result in nothing but more immigration and more crackdown on right-wing extremists in the end. It's not a useable strategy any more than voooting is.There could be a political solution, maybe, if someone with divine influence came along as a leader and used a combination of strict free speech backed up by violence, but that seems extremely unlikely.The only other option is to make a lot of babies, teach them well, and wait.
Impossible isn't European. The man can fail, you can kill him, but ideas live on. I for one welcome a martyr's death
>>544565374You're refuse from old garbage culture that people are trying to turn into fifth column energy to cause random damage. Like the damage your body suffers from eating salami. If you're a real person try to feel shame. Humanity is moving forward. There's problems and those who want to rule us but the problem isn't the garbage you cling to.
>>544568420Yeah, sure, I am also sure it will happen like that, but what OP is saying is still true. In the distant future you speak of the world map will have been unrecognizably redrawn from what it is now, and that is certainly the death of this Europe, no matter how you slice it. Most of our countries probably will not exist or will be reinvented.
>>544568420>posts on 4chan his country is actively burning downDo you know what martyrdom is? Do you plan on achieving this by posting harder?>>544568325And what have you done personally to help your cause? How many children have you begotten? Posting on 4cuck doesn’t count as helping the cause
good it needs to die.. our current governments want us all broke, powerless or dead. it has gone so far that nothing else works but for it all to fall to ruin....what does it matter if some of your historical buildings and statues are desecrated by a bunch of invaders our governments invited and let in, when you have no future or power in the current system? these are just landmarks that can be rebuilt, let it all burn to the ground and rise again thru the ashes and bathe in these traitors blood
>>544568651I spread well-written and interesting antisemitism every day and I've made children yes.
>>544568803>what does it matter if some of your historical buildings and statues are desecratedUnfortunately it matters extremely much because it is a culture's physical footprint upon the Earth, undeniable facts eternalized in stone. Facts which can then be denied and forgotten if the constructions are, which is precisely why they target architecture and always have. Every era of European architecture is vitally important for history and identity. Zoomers don't even know what a house is. That's intentional.
>>544567873>Europe can recoverHow? They have no guns and the continent is the size the United States, their countries are all tiny with nowhere to run to, and they are at the mercy of a increasingly tyrannical government and the hordes of India/Middle East/Africa
>Do you guys still have any hope for the situation in the West? Literally none barring a miracle
>>544567873Correct. America would have to do a complete 180 on the founders and the enlightenment and reinvent itself as the literal inverse of how it was created. And that's just on the theoretical side, not all the practical problems
>>544567677This is a kike
>>544565374Chriggers lead us here
>>544568651>And what have you done personally to help your cause?SHUT THE FUCK UP RETARD
>>544569331i denounce the talmud, u mad?
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>>544565374I have more kr less the same conclusion as you. That or the US fully collapses and Europe is able to resist migration without America looming over it.
>>544568953would you rather have fancy old buildings in the middle of town for instagram pics or sacrifice some of them and also get a chance to not live on your knees by destroying the government that has set its mind on wiping you out?
>>544569241America is declining BECAUSE WE ABANDONED THE VALUES OF THE FOUNDERS FOR RETARDED OLD WORLD MINDSETS.MARXISM AND FASCISM ARE OLD WORLD INVENTIONS
>>544569380>>544569397Very obvious kikes
>>544569438Europe will never resist migration with the current politicians.But I would agree that it will be easier when America and really Israel finally are weakened, and in the case of Israel, destroyed. But Euros need to clean out their governments.
>>544569496Classical liberal patriotards will simply have to be exterminated.
>>544569592christianity is dying rapidly and thats a fact, but so is islam and judaism. The largest group by far now are "nones" who were raised entirely without religion
>>544569338Funny how they don't mention by whom in the headline.
>>544569592I denounce the Talmud, Torah, quran and all the abrahamic trite
>>544569446Personally I would not sacrifice any of them for any reason because they are invaluable works of art made with expert craftsmanship by our ancestors, and a single brick is worth more to me than the lives of ten million arabs or jews or other sand rats. As for Instagram I don't recommend using it.
>>544569746You're a very obviou kike
>>544569616Sorry but it's not going to fly hereOur country was founded on shooting authoritarians.If anything, we need to preserve freedom, and part of that is getting rid of the people who dislike freedom because they're too retarded or lazy to enjoy itAnd that is browns and jewsOnly white people actually care about freedom especially when raised around it. We should focus on that and tell the authoritarians to fuck off to Europe or face a bullet.>>544569828I think it's going to be inevitable that some of those buildings have to be sacrificed if only because it's the only way for you welfare addicted faggots to get off your asses and maybe do something once and for all
>>544569957America is a satanic liberal masonic experiment and all 1776ers are in hell. George Washington was a useful idiot and he is also in hell.
>>544570059Then fuck off and leave, Americans don't like authoritarians and the ones that "do" are just retarded immigrants or jews who don't come from a culture that respects our God given rights
I will spell this out for you all.If OP was here to have an honest discussion he would not be posting with a memeflag. The least he can do is show his flag; by not doing he is quite literally telling you all that he is here for no good. After all it's just two touches of a button followed by a third to post. That's all he has to do but he won't because he is concealing something. Please understand that.The point of this thread is to demoralize you hence the title. Your thoughts become your reality which is why he is doing this. We are a conquered people but not fallen. Unless the flame of our race is extinguished it is not over. After all defeat is psychological until death. Examine everything empirically. That is all.
>>544570327I personally am down for what needs to be done but I don't know if my own people are ready
>>544570059Certainly true but I agree with the other poster that that was not the original intent or purpose for the majority of people who went there, and I would say their spirit and intent counts for more.
>>544570251Nothing a liberal says matters. Just slit their throats and be done with it
>>544570386Gayest most retarded shit I have ever read in my life (except the declaration of independence, constitution, and gettysburg address)
>>544565374These things fragment, to be followed by wars between local warlords. People inevitably fall in behind ethnic lines.
>>544570419Nothing liberals say or do has any purpose or intent but to increase their own power, status, or wealth 5 minutes from now, and all liberals would be horrified to see what liberalism becomes 50 years into the future. And yet they never change. Assuming that they have good but misdirected intentions leads to underestimating the evil they are capable of.
>>544569496>Marxism and fascism predate the enlightenment American education.
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>>544570568Yes, and I have no doubt we will win, there is just a horrid and sad amount of destruction ahead of us before that happens, because the enemy warlords and their clans are already here and doing their purpose. Even if/when it finally turns fully violent, Europeans will once again be the last to find their place and begin fighting back.
>>544565374I for one dont care. I know what everyones been searching for.Burn it down or try save it, I dont care. The choice was always yours and instead of grasping for eternity, you choose to burn with the trash.So, you know, at some point, you either start heeding the teachings, or just accept you arent one of the chosen.
>>544565374>whiteWhite is capitalized you fucking kike. >Christian Europe and Christian AmericaThese things are on their way out and that's a good thing. It is a rediscovery of the Pagan vigor which will save the west. Not this semitic faith rebranded for Europe called "Christianity." The White race will be saved by its ancient ancestral traditions not by this foreign religion which imposes anti-White attitudes. Look into any Christian commentator, unless it's a coping tradcat or orthoLARPER they'll all say something along the lines of "I'd rather have a non-white Christian Europe than a non-Christian White Europe." And then you have to do with the universalism inherent in Christianity which is generally anti-nationalist. In reality, either there is a White Europe or there is a non-Christian brown Europe since they just import mudslimes who use the retardation of Christians against them.
>>544570327Hi buddy it's OP. What's wrong with the fascist flag?
>>544570444Alright, lets do it, but I'm not trading one villain for another, the minute you try to put chains on me is the minute a bullet goes to your head.>>544570479No it's based actually, welfare is gay and it makes people weak and retarded and dependent on the governmentJust look at Europe>>544570632The Bill of Rights and the Constitution made things pretty clear:>There are rights, given to us by God, who is above everybody, that the government cannot take away, no matter the era
>>544566658idol worshipper moment
>>544565374>muh jewish messianic desert death cult is over!It is? Christcucks are running around everywhere you look. The only difference is their average skin color now, and that was always an inevitability as it has always been the end result, as intended by the jews who created it and managed to shoehorn it into Rome, replacing all of their religious institutions and temples to then revolve around jew worship.>>544569688They were paid with taxpayer money out of the federal government's "resettlement programs" that they received the contract money from.>>544569835>heh, dont worship jews? you know who would say that? only a jew! now go to church and worship jews, goy!!!kill yourself you neanderthal-descended semite rat
>>544570851This is a kike
>>544567873Europe is completely over. The content is a museum. Europeans are basically senile old boomers and decadent bourgeoisie playing at revolutionary or too concerned with their petty social lives to change anything. The layers of bureaucracy are too thick to penetrate anyway, not that there’s any will. Europe is analogous to the Greek city states c. 100 BC. It’s unironically over. What Europeans are basically playing for at this point is to stay alive in their ancestral homelands. When the race no longer exists at home, the race is dead. The task for Germans will be basically to keep Germans alive. Grand political games, empires, ethnostates, historical significance, all of these are totally off the table.
>>544570887nuke israelrape netanyahui denounce the talmudit was 271k topsearth will be #110
>>544569241America’s problem is not ideological but mechanical. Democracy does not work. It’s really that simple. Quasi-autocratic demagoguery fixes America practically overnight.
>>544571136Just return to only land owning free white men voting.easy peasy
>>544571281>justBut anyway, it should actually be one vote per:Child-bearing married familySkilled worker of a valuable professional with 10+ years of experienceTrained soldier.Could also have 2 or more votes for especially excellent citizens, and all votes should be colored or coded in such a way that leaders know what which portions of the populace want, and even so the votes should merely be a suggestion and mark of the will of the people. Unpopular leaders should be killed.Obviously no votes for women or invaders/temporary visitors/etc, but that goes without saying.
>>544565374If there’s no hope then there’s nothing to lose from waging a nuclear war. The West can be full on aggressive against The East.Russia and China BTFO
>>544566658this would never happen ad orientem
>>544572198I agree, the major cities getting nuked means a lot of the regime that's fucking over the US would just be turned to nuclear dust
