NOOOOO
Only Israel should have free healthcaret. maga
>>544569501wow democrats are pure evil
>>544569501don't threaten me with a good time
>>544569608Yes. Cope.>I don't want to pay I don't want to pay.Shut up troon freak.
>>544569501His brain is really just mush, now, is it not?
>>544569501>mike johnson: We're taking away the healthcare. You are a parasite>Trump: if they win youre getting the healthcare backwhat's happening to him?
>>544569729Dementia.
>>544569501Talmud demands for-profit healthcare!
>>544569697Yep...dementia.
>>544569501When he says everyone, he means it. You'll have hundreds of millions of people flying here to get "free" healthcare, and YOU will pay for it. You think it's bad now with immigrants flooding ERs and hospitals? Just wait until EVERYONE gets free healthcare.
>>544569674I had a stay at home almost wife who forced me to do half the chores and announced she actually doesnt want kids anymore and I have to pay for her high school tuition.I dont have women in my life anymore.
>>544569697He really is just biden now except stupid and instead of handlers he has rasputin like sycophants
He's right and we can't let this happen or every single person in america is going to be transitioned and castrated. That's what the DEMONRATS want in this country, trans kids, trans parents, trans athletes, everyone transgender for everybody. Vote Republican NOW or your kids are going to get their genitals chopped off!
>>544569846Are you flying to other civilized countries to get "free healthcare?"I didn't think so.
>>544569846It's already happening, it's already priced into insurance companies risk models and we're already paying for it with our premiums.
>>544569697reminds me of witcher 3 mission where you had to lead the sheep somewhere
>>544569846this.fucking retards always to pretend not to understand as usual.
>>544569846We could abolish social security and have money to spare for universal healthcare, even at today's massively inflated prices.The elderly are parasites. It's time to cut them loose.
Israel first.
>>544569501Jeez Mr. President that would just be awful.
>>544569943niggas really said biden was too old for this shit just to vote for a nigga one year younger
>>544569925Ah yes high school tuition
>>544569846mike thompson literally went out of his way to say trumps healthcare plan was keeping single moms and immigrant workers insured but to take it away from "white guys who play videogames at home all day"
>>544569501
>>544570093johnson*
>>544569676Am Yisrael Chazirim October 7th was funny as fuck I curse nigger Vishnu
>>544570093He said that with this same shit eating grin on his face lmao
>>544569501>"I can eat whatever I want and you will have to pay for my insulin!"
>>544569501which would be fine if it weren't so easy for another president in four years to simply open your borders to third world trash to fuck everything up. America can't afford to take care of her own even, too much greed, dead culture, jews rape you in the back but everyone can hear, sick nation.
Who the hell wants free healthcare! Only real men go bankrupt and end up on the street because they cant pay the bill.I went to the doctor last month and paid $18. Wish it could be $800k instead. Fucking shit country i live in >:(
>>544569943I hope he lives long enough to stand trial for the corruption. His whole tribe needs to stripped and run out of town on a rail.
>>544569501oy vey!
>>544569846It works in Europe. Fuck off!
why does Trump get free healthcare and I can'twhy does my taxes pay for Israel's free college and healthcare but not for mecan a conservative please explain to me in simple terms
>>544570093Miggers have no rebuttal lmao twist miggers’ heads off miggers fucking stink>>544570282Miggers in red states are overwhelmingly net tax sinks as well as overwhelmingly obese. Basically the same tier of human as spics.
>>544569697If he was heading for a cliff, would any of them be patriotic enough to let him keep going?
>>544570408It owns da libz
>>544569501This resonates only with the greedy boomers that feel they only are entitled to the American dream. Only boomers want to keep healthcare paywalled and expensive and it's purely driven by sadism, not the economic problems it could cause.
>>544570333Ok but think of how many more billionaires you could have if everyone had to pay for health insurance and for lots of healthcare on top of it because like why not? In Norway you are seriously underproducing billionaires
>>544570409This is Metokur these days
>>544569501Free healthcare means longer waits for worse service. Got a lump on your breast? Have fun waiting 6 months for a cancer screening. And most doctor visits are already just the doctor asking stock questions and plugging the answers into ChatGPT. That’s only going to get worse.
>>544570446Trump doesn't seem informed that Evangelicals have a far higher support for Israel than American Jews. It confuses him.
>>544570484>Free healthcare means longer waits for worse service.t. Migger.Only important people get free immediate healthcare like Uncle Mitchy.
>>544570425Well... depends. Personally I'd much rather see him in jail, in Bernie Madoff's former cell.Because if he just dies, his tribe will keep the stolen billions and laugh all the way to the bank, possibly entering politics, too. The rot needs to stop with him.
>>544570484These big pharma and insurance company fear mongering talking points only hypnotize low iq emotionally driven cucksevatives at this point.
>>544570624Sudden death and there's no pardons errywhere, everyone is left exposed while Vance is being impeached (really just for being Vance).His sons have enough going on to do 50 years.
>>544570468I think about that too a lot. I want more billionaires, and I will do everything in my power my fren, to make sure that this happen. I will start off by paying more for gas, food and pharma. You better do the same mister!
Only white countries have free healthcare
>>544569501Did he really say that? Lmao the horror
>>544570484That's not the case for much of Europe, you're recycling shitty fox news points talking about Canada, which is admittedly a trash heap joke of a nation and yes, your nation, full of subhumans and demonic kikes, will likely fuck up that badly so it's a fair point you make anyway, just needing more context
>>544570409i suppose it must a have taken Mike years in a prestigious college to say something that fucking stupid
>>544569846kys
Also, I'm going to be very blunt and direct with you.I don't want free healthcare, and I sure as shit don't want you broke idiots getting free healthcare and shitting up hospitals and doctors offices every time you get the flu or have a drug overdose or you slip and fall on your fat asses, or to treat the diseases you get from being fat/drug addicts/sexual deviants. I don't want to pay for you and your mistakes. Your health issues have nothing to do with me or my family.Some dickfuck in Cali getting the clap is not my problem.Some ham planet getting a coronary in New York is not my problem.Some asswipe getting covid/cold/tetanus in Missouri is not my problem.Some nigger retard getting shot by other nigger retards blasting him over a beef in Illinois is not my problem.Some beaner shooting a nail through his foot on a roof down in Miami is not my problem.Health insurance should not exist, medicare should not exist, medicaid should not exist, and "free" healthcare should not exist, because NPCs and normies are fucking stupid and unhealthy and reckless and ignorant and they should absolutely have to pay the consequences for fucking themselves. They voted for being sick/injured by acting unsafe/unhealthy.
>>544570706Yeah."The american voter is a retarded toddler constantly to touch the hot stope of authoritarianism. Trump is a much needed lesson why institutions exist."- /pol/ probably
>>544570892Thank you Mr. Crab-in-a-bucket.
>>544570409What makes you think I want to pay for their poor life choices?
>>544570747
>>544570029Or we could cut fraud, waste and abuse and reduce spending money/borrowing against the future. But yeah, more taxes and homeless elderly people sounds like a better idea.
>>544571007>Implying we don't have own health insurance.
>>544571049I work in a manufacturing plant in NE Missouri, a fortune 500 company with 1000 employees.And every year my premium has gone up, my deductible has gone up, the company add to my HSA has evaporated, the medications covered have dwindled.We are just paying more and more and more for less. The whole "capitalist" Healthcare system needs to fuck off.With access to healthcare not tied to this plant, I would go off and make money doing something I enjoy doing.
>>544571195>"Trust me. I would never lie on the internet."
>>544569925>wife forced meYou can just say you're a low-t faggot and leave it at that.
>>544571257Migger, I'm not here to entertain you with storytimes. Facts are facts, whatever bullshit you swallow from your guy.
Pol voted for Drumph knowing he, like all Republicans, oppose free healthcare, why's this surprising?
>>544571366/pol/ voted for Trump believing he despised brown people and trannies, as if he sees any color besides green. Ignoring the evidence of him working with and employing browns since he left his parent's place.He just keeps ratcheting up the Jewish Tricks on them, and they'll keep pretending he's "owning teh Jews".
NO PLEASE DONT TREAT ME!!! I was looking forward to dying from poverty : (
>>544570892I work in health insurance claims and most of my cases are “We’ve tried nothing and we’re all out of ideas!”. The average healthcare patient is a fatass on multiple lifelong maintenance meds for diseases caused by obesity.
>>544571007>noooo you have to care about my issues in life!The fuck I do. I went to school with you idiots, grew up around you idiots, and most of you weren't fit to lick the dogshit off my Adidas. Normie peasants. The same kinds of halfwit retards that let themselves get molested or who take out $40K student loans fresh out of high school. You lowly animals have never had any sense. You should pay for your own fuck-ups, that way you learn a lesson about fucking up. Injuries, sicknesses, and the cost to repair them is the price you pay for doing dumb shit.I had to go to the ER because I cut my leg open with a knife because I swung it like a retard, and then I paid $2100 to get it stiched up.Guess what I'll NEVER do again. The punishment teaches you responsibility, like touching a hot stove.Also, narcan should be banned for addicts. No illegal drug user should be allowed to be revived from an OD.
>>544571496Thank you, Mr. Retard.From everyone who realizes flailing around with sharp objects like a spastic isn't a good idea.
>>544571496Yeah my 6 year old niece let herself get molested. That dumbass. Fuck her.
>>544571317How come I never see you health care shills talk about lowering the cost of medicine and medical procedures to reasonable levels? It is always give the government another leash for the people.
>>544571494Safety nets create a false sense of security, like relying on police to protect you instead of carrying a weapon.It's a lot easier to do the trapeze when there's a net to catch your monkey ass than it is without a net, and having safety nets encourages unhealthy/dangerous behaviors. Humans are very foolish, and encouraging foolishness causes deletion of civilization.Abortion access and birth control pills allow women to slut around. There's so many examples of safety nets and other bullshit leading to the degradation of humans. Africa breeds like cockroaches because they get food and medical safety nets.On and on and on. Caring for each other does not mean enticing and encouraging bad behavior. Sometimes it means punishing bad behavior with serious consequences.
>>544569608>Only Israel should have free healthcareThey don't. Even NEET kikes have to pay ~470 USD per year for basic healthcare. After that it's 5% of your gross monthly income. Median gross monthly income is ~3,393 USD. So, they're paying ~170 USD per month for basic healthcare. Which is on par for a single person that pays for employer provided health insurance in the US.
>>544571664>Comparing someone's poor life choices to a child getting molested.False equivalence. The girl would have had no control over what happened to her. The smokers cancer is self inflicted. If you think you made a compelling argument then you are terrible at shilling and a cretin on top of that.
>>544569501@acyn or @atrupar? cropped it tranny
>>544570029Or we could just ban niggers, spics, and shitskins from getting healthcare for free and give all Whites free healthcare. Niggers, spics, and shitskins are the actual parasites.
>>544571077>saying nice things about jews = bad>sending actual weapons and capital to israel to fund their war against humanity = good
>>544569501Universal healthcare was literally one of his election pitches. It was what he was going to replace Obamacare with. He could still enact it, if he were to completely redirect the money going into Israel.
>>544571487
>>544571686Single-payer healthcare is literally HOW you lower the costs of medicine and procedures to reasonable levels. What you have right now is a for-profit provider talking with a for-profit insurance company. They're always going to work out something. If we turn healthcare into a government monopsony where you no longer have to fuck with state insurance markets or for-profit entities colluding to make as much money as they can, you will see healthcare costs drop dramatically. What America has right now is the worst of all possible worlds.
Keep licking the Tranny boot?
>>544572389
>>544572261>"NOOOOOO! How you dare expose my hero's betrayal of his voters!"
>>544571664why did you molest her
>>544572401>If we turn healthcare into a government monopsony where you no longer have to fuck with state insurance markets or for-profit entities colluding to make as much money as they can, you will see healthcare costs drop dramatically.No you won't as the government isn't going to negotiate over prices and will just pay whatever the hospitals and doctors bill them for. Just like government backed and guaranteed loans for college made prices skyrocket as they know they can charge whatever they want and the government will just borrow and increase taxes to pay for it.
>>544569501the midterms are going to be a slaughter for them... Jesus
>>544572716What if you wrote a law that said like>you MUST negotiate over prices to get Americans the lowest possible pricesand then set up a bunch of watchdogs and an agency whose purpose is to negotiate on behalf of Americans to get the lowest price?
>>544570374First do Biden, then we'll talk.
>>544573031because the russian bots said so? Fuck off back to your troll cave!
>>544572716>Oh, the Pentagon is funding our missiles? Let's charge $10,000,000 each for themPeople wonder why the US spends so much money on military hardware, and then think giving 400M people the ability to get healthcare "for free" at any time is a good plan. Medicaid and medicare already cost more than the defense budget. Also, if the government doesn't like you, they probably won't pay for your "free" healthcare using taxed workers.If the average American understood math and economics, we wouldn't have student and credit card debt. These people have no clue how financing and economics work at all.
>>544569501This is comuninimum vote Trump and own the libs Q patriots!
>>544572711For the lulz
>>544569501What phenotype does not want healthcare?
>>544569697they stepped away to speak privately. Who cares?
I know this is catnip for leftists, but everyone means tourists and illegals--leeching off our failing economy. Further, even with our current system, healthcare is suboptimal for a "first world nation". We have queues, everything is overcharged, and fraud is expected... ALREADY. Imagine how much worse it could be, if it's billed to the government. Then multiply that by at least 10.
>>544569501GIVE ME MY MEDBED MIGGER
reminder that one of the reasons for the current constitution is to promote the general welfare
>>544569501So, is Trump actually a secret operative of the Fabian Society, intentionally making himself a laughably evil and incompetent parody of the far-right in order to drive the populace to embrace socialism?
>>544569846No no no, you are not like us europoors, you are rich you have air conditioners and shit. Your tax rates are nowhere near us europoors suffer from either, in fact I would kill to have your tax rates. What now, you can't pay for your >48% brown population? Don't be so jewish. You will pay for your nigger brethren's health and you will be happy.
>>544574057you work in insurance don't you
>>544570093you voted for it
>>544569501So guise which is gonna be>israel Or>RussiaWe KNOW theyre going to flee.Is kalshi on this shit yet or should I just stick to losing money gambling on options?????
>>544574430he's just the natural conclusion to the GOP strategy. for a long time they've just been so cartoonishly evil that when you tell someone about it they assume you're being histrionic. now you've got the head of the party saying the quiet parts on the news instead of buried in bills
>>544569501Honestly how do Americans put up with dealing with blood sucking time wasting insurance companies. I can't even stand dealing with car insurance companies.
>>544574430>a laughably evil and incompetent parody of the far-right in order to drive the populace to embrace socialism?I have assumed this was the case since 2017 it was either that or he is actually retarded. It does explain why Biden did not start charging him for Jan 6 till the 2024 election cycle also running another woman against him.
>>544574527If you want to get a bottle of redpills on society, work as an insurance agent. You'll get a crash course, literally, on how retarded and reckless and degenerate the average retard is.
>>544569697Dementia Don
>>544574661That's a big time antisemitism there buddy better be careful
>>544574527No. And this is a retarded take. Insurance companies wouldn't be destroyed, they would simply become part of the government's bidding process for "optimal" healthcare rates. You a real kind of dribbling retard to think the corruption wouldn't get worse.
>>544569501"Everyone" for the Dems means "actual citizens plus everyone who crosses open borders, including women and their anchor babies who will forever be adding on to the growing population and costs".
>>544572389>>544572497carry that water boy
>>544573861
>>544574896I think oy reason it would get worse is lobbyists exist and Republicans are corrupt
>>544571876There's no bigger safety net than what you guys live in from the cradle to the grave. You are so oblivious to its presence, like fish to water. And then you come in here and spew this rugged individualist larp. Meanwhile you live in safe suburban nigger free bubbles as your government engineers collapse of entire economies, belonging to "friendly" nations like Japan in the 90s to EU today.with your jewkraine war, just to prop up your shitty dollar so that your worthless ass can buy actual quality goods from abroad.
>>544575129Republicans are just more obvious about it. Look at who was actually behind the ACA, and their investments... Unfortunately, most Democrat voters don't even bother looking beyond the surface of smiles and sycophantry.
>>544570484>if we get universal healthcare you will have to wait to get a cancer screening!>trust me bro its much better to not have access to cancer screening at all because you cant afford it it never ceases to amaze me how stupid right wingers are lol
>>544574896> There are 1,176 health insurers in the U.S>he thinks they're all going to get cushy government jobs for purchasing medicine from India like what everyone else does>wahhhh the u.s doesn't buy it's medicines from India>Approximately 4 out of every 10 prescriptions consumed by Americans are manufactured by Indian companies.ngmi
>>544569697Nope, you just lack reading comprehension.
>>544570228Why does she's have 2 different peg legs
>>544575363I know you pulled that number off the internet, but that's not real in practice. It's sort of like banks here. Sure, there are thousands, but really, you're choosing between 5-6.
>>544569846That makes literally no fucking sense. Nobody's flocking to Canada from the US to get healthcare because it's only free for legal residents that have been there 6+ months. US would have the same kind of caveat.
>>544569925>muh heckin GED feeslmao shouldn't have paired off with a loser like methany
>>544575447And they still wouldn't get government jobs because you don't need a team that big to bulk buy shit from India and if you DO then you're running a racket for government jobs to waste U.S tax dollars.
>>544569501“Free Healthcare” What they’re not telling you is, if it’s free, then it ain’t worth nothing.
>>544569846They already do that. They've been doing it. Have you been to an ER in the last 30 years? What about an urgent care clinic? How uninformed can you possibly be?
>>544575522>you're running a racket for government jobs to waste U.S tax dollarsI stated as much, already. The main reason people hated the concept of DOGE wasn't just because Elon was behind it, or that the actions of it failed; it was because a lot of the voting population believes government bloat "is a good thing".
>>544575570That's why I only breathe canned air
>>544569501wtf these press conferences now get sponsored by coffee and cereal companies?
>>544570408>can a conservative please explain to me in simple termsThey're god's chosen people. You're cattle.
>>544569501You kikes want to steal more money to buy votes and launder the rest, we know
>>544575621And yet DOGE found fucking nothing and just cut shit without knowing what it was for based on >feels
>>544575621Well that and I didn't want to defund childhood cancer and malaria prevention. They actually tried to fire 350 people who work on maintaining our nuclear stockpile. They had to scramble to get them back, because we can't fucking fire the people that maintain our warheads.
>>544575742Are you actually anglo, or some brown in England? No way your reading comprehension is that terrible.
>>544569501How sickly are you mfers that you need healthcare so badly?
>>544575830It's midnight and im at best glossing over your posts lmao
>>544575621Oh yeah. And screw worm surged a couple months after they cut prevention for it
>>544570394No it doesn't, Abdul.
>>544569846I'm already paying for healthcare in israel
>>544569501Trump isn't in New Jersey today. He's in Palm Beach playing golf-https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/117464065930232379And as for your suggestion that Democrats will deliver "free" healthcare, why haven't they? We got mandatory fines from Obama for refusing to be forced to buy something. Biden gave us nothing. Trump, on the other hand, has suggested that health subsidies should go directly to the American people so they can choose which health plan to spend it on. Right now, under the Democrat plan, that money goes to the industry and the health insurance companies, who own the Democrats. They are the principal donors and their lobbists are the ones who decided that what we have now is how things should be. They also want you to pay for healthcare for illegal immigrants, as many as they can pack into the country to sway elections in their favor, because American citizens are shit of their shit.
>>544575258I do not live in a suburb or city, and I didn't grow up there either.>>544575458>US would have the same kind of caveat.Illegals already get care you mongrel.>>544575579Let's make it worse instead of better. Genius! I nominate you for smartest special ed kid of the week.>>544575962No you aren't. Jews don't get free healthcare in Israel. Nothing is free in Israel for Israelis or anyone else. Jews don't give free shit. Are you retarded?
>>544569501>everyone can come tot he US and get free healthcare, and YIU have to pay for itWe have that now.
>>544570892You’re Jewish.>>544576154>u-u-uhhh actually healthcare in Israel isn’t free, it’s just taxpayer funded universal healthcareYeah, that’s what everyone means by free healthcare. Israel has a huge population of Hasidic NEETs getting free shit and they’re only able to do it because we’ve given them hundreds of billions and countless mutt bodies for their defense.
>>544576054It’s not the belief dems would actually do it, it’s that it’s a selling point for Trump that it wouldn’t happen. The same way he threatened Israel would not exist anymore if Kamala won.
>>544576054>They are the principal donors and their lobbists are the ones who decided that what we have now is how things should be.Actually the right is running three big pharma shills this year. The big one is the guy they picked to run against Abdul El Sayed, who is actually championing Medicare for all. He's also one of the only candidates with an actual background in setting up and funding hospitals. He actually knows the background of what he's campaigning on.
>>544569697Imagine voting for this, couldn’t be me
>>544570892>I don't want free healthcare, and I sure as shit don't want you broke idiots getting free healthcare and shitting up hospitals and doctors offices every time you get the flu or have a drug overdose or you slip and fall on your fat asses, or to treat the diseases you get from being fat/drug addicts/sexual deviants. I don't want to pay for you and your mistakes.Cool, so which country are you going to move to when I get what I want?
>>544576436>You’re Jewish.I know, every time I tell people the cold hard truth, I'm jewish. I should actually try to convert already, apparently being jewish means being right all the time.>Israel has a huge population of Hasidic NEETs getting free shit Almost everyone in Israel hates these leeches, including Netanyahu. Nobody likes them, but they can't do anything to them because they have huge legal protections in Israel, exploiting the law. Just like leeches do here, and in Europe, and Asia, and every other place leeches are found.>>544577348The only thing you're getting are higher premiums and shittier care. Where are we going to get the doctors and nurses and technicians and lab workers needed to handle the sudden influx of hundreds of millions more people seeking free handouts? Ever heard of logistics?
>>544577504Poor people already get free healthcare, dumbass. Just say you'd rather give it to shaniqua.
>>544577852Nobody should get it. Health insurance and government entitlements shouldn't exist. Nobody had this garbage when America was at its peak. Somehow we became an economic and cultural powerhouse without health insurance and medicaid and medicare.
>>544569986I'm not a 3rd world retard with a chip on my shoulder and type 2 diabetes from eating nothing but goyslop so no I wouldn't do that
>>544578035When was America at its peak?
>>5445781681945-1965OR1880-1910OR1820-1845
u can make these nigger threads all u want, im still voting Trump in 2028
>>544575410Temporary and or different cut offs
>out of context misquote>blown up into a major headlineevery single DNC propaganda "news" story ever. This isn't even high effort trolling, this is slop
>>544578035This is a very unpopular opinion and the vast majority of people believe in social safety nets.
>>544578764you know the purpose of Obamacare was to inflate the price of Healthcare to such an extent, the system would collapse and they could have socialized medicine? That's literally the intention of it. The health insurance scam industry privitizes profits, and socializes costs, so the incentives to raise the price are enormous. $50 for a dishrag, $150 for an advil....etc. This is why the price has exploded to such a degree. The system needs to end. This whole insurance scheme is really just a way to redistribute wealth. Also you're talking about "social safety nets" but in reality we have millions of foreign invaders mooching off the system of our taxpayers. This was also intentional, since marxists want to redistribute the success of the western world to everyone else, and want western countries destroyed.
>>544578764The vast majority of people are fucking stupid. I don't defer to their authority. And neither should the government. Democracy is a terrible idea. The peasant class has always existed and it exists for a reason. One major problem that intelligent folks have is they self-reference intelligence. I used to as well. When I was a young dude I just assumed people had the intelligence and reasoning capabilities that I did, maybe not as sharp or high but I thought that people use common sense and logic as adults. Maturing is realizing that most people stop maturing at puberty.
>>544569501I wonder if top politicians themselves buy the bipartisan gimmicks.
>>544579270There is something you are missing though.When people come together, they form a larger brain. Each individual person becomes like a single neuron in that larger brain. Go to a baseball game, you can feel it. The crowd is "alive" it has a mind of its own. So while each individual person might be dumb as bricks, might not understand things, the living body of the people does. Lower class people are exceptionally good at this, the way they chum together and laugh together, they have easy social bonds. They are connected to the greater mind. While intelligent people are self-contained, particular intelligence's, whole unto themselves. They usually have trouble socially too. So while I think the best of us should be steering the decisionmaking, there's no doubt that the larger population must be respected rather than disregarded. They often cannot put their thoughts and feelings into words. It's the job of the aristocrats to hear them, interpret their feelings, and then put it into decisive action. In the old days, the king would send an unassuming observer out to mingle with the people, to get a sense of their mindset and their mood. Then he would put those feelings into policy. So whatever system is set up in the end, needs democratic elements. Probably not a pure democracy, but the information we get from elections is too valuable to just, nix elections. Plus, elections give the government the consent of governed, which is necessary to avoid revolution.
>>544573990Holy fucking cope. You miggers have the gayest excuses for everything.
You saw during the psycho pandemic that "healthcare" can be the opposite. Also, according to the radiologist and medical historian Gerd Reuther medicine reduced historically and reduces the number of years of life more than it increases them.
You know if he said communism instead of healthcare maybe people would listen a little more
>>544569697Pure Deltsensia
>>544569986people in the us travel to mexico to get cheap healthcare for things like dental because something that costs thousands of dollars here in the us cost like 50 dollars there
>>544569846>he doesnt know
Why don't people have healthcare? If you have a job you would have it, and if you don't, you would have medicaid. If you are self-employed, then not being able to pay for healthcare is a risk you take as an entrepreneur.
>>544569501Im voting Red 10x just to avoid this atrocity.
>>544579492I know all of this, it's how mass hysteria and riots work. All the more reason to force people to be responsible, and teach them consequences as early as possible.If you give people safety, they get complacent, they become ignorant of the real consequences of bad behaviors and unhealthy living, and they get the toxic idea in their heads that help and safety are there to protect them. This is bad. It takes autonomy and experience away from the individual with free will and assigns it to a collective.I fell out of a tree one time. One time.This is how you end up with women thinking they can't be held accountable, and other such delinquents.
>>544580157Sure but there's been plenty of times throughout history when the people had a greater understanding of things than the so-called elites. The collective experience of the people is thousands of years from a thousand different perspectives, while the experience of the individual is only 50 years, from one perspective.
>>544580739>Sure but there's been plenty of times throughout history when the people had a greater understanding of things than the so-called elites.That's right now. That's why everything is imploding. The leadership is now dumber than the retarded masses. You know how that ends.
I earn enough to be middle class and I have a feeling the democrats would want to tax me more as a consequence. Yeah fuck that.
OMG! EVERYONE PANIC!!!!!
>dow at 40kIs this pic from 3 years ago?
>>544569501I've been on medical before. Trust me, you don't want that shit.
>>544583106My current healthcare plan is to keel over and die from poverty
>>544583357that won't change with medical. It just means that they promise you a booking in three months with the hope that you'll die before you can make your appointment.There's a reason why only yuropoors and the poorest in our country have access to so-called 'universal healthcare'.
>>544583516Uh, those countries HAVE better healthcare than you do (unless you're a billionaire, then America's healthcare is pretty good). We pay more than anyone on the planet and our healthcare is between 10th-15th place. It's not working for what we're paying.
> healthcare is already free nigga meme
>>544583516>muh wait timesShut up fag
>>544569674Tummy
>>544583697Because Obamacare drastically raised prices. Because Obama's entire plan was to collapse the healthcare system to go to socialized medicine. You're arguing that we should go to the DNC approved socialized plan, because the DNC approved semi-socialist plan drove up costs to record extremes.
>>544583697>those countries HAVE better healthcare than you doNo, they don't. European universal healthcare is quite literally the same as medicaid in America. Same wait times, same generic treatment.No government in the history of humanity will break out the caviar for the plebs, and none of them ever will. You should really read into how they define that 'better healthcare'. They are quite literally one step above overdosing junkies receiving a narcan shot to avoid dying. They certainly aren't getting a six month treatment in a chateau overlooking the mediterranean lol
>>544584242Fun fact, Canada has killed more people in assisted suicide than died from gun deaths in the US. Canada's solution to long lines is quite straightforward. Just kill em
>>544584303and to be quite honest, that's the best approach in a world that is rapidly descending into total anarchy. The government certainly doesn't want take on more dependents, might as well give the poors the illusion of choice and then deny them when they have a change of heart.We are living in the dystopia. I'd rather not be forcibly enrolled in any healthcare program than be forced to accept whatever they offer.
>>544583106With Medi-Cal you can go to the best ER in your city and they have to treat you and stabilize you at no cost. That's a huge advantage over regular health insurance where you often have huge copays and deductibles. You're right though that besides ER care Medi-Cal tends to be shit.
>yet another discord/reddit tranny threadBraaap, your raids will never amount to anything, ywnbaw
>>544569674That's funny and cute
>>544569697this happens to me too sometimes, I forget where I'm going even if it's to the car. the trick is to pretend your dong something, like looking at the grass
>>544569501is there an actual link for this?
>>544571162>Or we could cut fraud, waste and abuse and reduce spending money/borrowing against the future.Best I can do is to fuck over the working class even more. Deal?
>>544569975The board is full of these dumb bitches (YOU).
>>544583782>Because ObamacareNo. It was like this before. Sorry.
>>544569501Is he retarded?
>>544584242>Nuh uh! They have the same thing we have!No, the stats definitively prove Europe is better than us. We're not even usually in the top 10 in terms of medical care.
>>544569501Neither healthcare or another other commodity can ever be "free". No leftist can ever refute this.
>>544569501>>544569501That is kinda wishful thinking isnt it?
>>544569674She's a feminist, but she also thinks anyone who would take political advice from her is an idiot
>>544584242>You should really read into how they define that 'better healthcare'Oh, there's a ton of stats they use to judge healthcare by.You wanna see how we stack up to a 3rd world commie shithole like cuba? It doesn't go as well as you think, they actually beat us or tie with us in half the metricshttps://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Cuba/United-States/Health
>>544570228I would love a kosher fuck nugget
>>544585425>the statistics, anon.>doesn't bother to read up how they measure and summarize those statistics
>>544585576Nobody brought up the word free except you.
>>544580739>>544580983The only "groups" you actually see exercising groupthink are all the retards. Antifa, LGBT, BLM, Women in general. Anywhere you see a mass of people collectively thinking together you get utter retardation. You get an echochamber of jackoffs circlejerking each other's ideas and agreeing with each other while their own world falls around them. It happened in the soviet union. It happens with religion. It happened to your fucking beloved hobby. A mass of retards came in who didn't understand the primer and threw the baby out with the bathwater. With women they literally throw the baby out with the bathwater with their horseshit regarding abortion. You wonder how these people became so fucking retarded and you can only conclude they had to have been TAUGHT TO BELIEVE IT. The only thing that is happening right now is all the people on the government teet are bitching and moaning that the free ride is over. The white privilege indentured servitude of white people isn't happening, they really are going to actually have to work now. Only this time it's going to be real work and not fake and gay "work from home" garbage because WE NEED ACTUAL PRODUCTION. Wah wah wah I know your healthcare, the good news is that working will give you money/bennies plus actual pains and aches and not lazyboy armchair bed sores so that you can actually use your paid for healthcare effectively.>>544585672You think a country that has to recycle cars from the fucking 60's has good healthcare, that's how educated you are. I bet you think the isolated, barren frost nigger countries at the top of Europe are all "the happiest countries" too because you read it in a stat with a sample size less than your IQ
lol
>>5445858063 people need a kidney. there is only 1 available. who gets the kidney?
>>544569648they are u faggot
>>544585875Whose life would benefit the most?
>>544585842You're extrapolating an auto industry to healthcare.Now you could just guess OR you could check the stats.
>>544585842let him believe what he wants lmao he drank the socialist kool-aid, there is no saving that one.
>>544569846kek. The GOP really needs to learn new shill lines. Even boomer republican voters will agree in private conversation that healthcare is a market-breaking thing when left without state intervention. It's essentially infinite demand on finite resources. Lead-Paint-Eating boomers even agree that healthcare NEEDS to be a single-payer state-ran apparatus.
>>544585913congrats, you just explained why universal healthcare doesn't work
>>544570484>longer waitsmany people have infinitely long waits no because they can't afford to get any care.
>>544586044What a convincing argument
>>544585842I figured it would take a little longer for the money spigot to switch off before this shit started happening.When people that cannot produce or do work have their supply of money taken, they're going to get ornery, and I guess we're seeing that now. And when they get ornery, the military and police are going to have to kill them, because you can't allow humans that cannot take care of themselves to exist without a bribe to keep them peaceful. They WILL become violent and they WILL need to be killed. Or....Slavery.
>>544585875The person closest to the one with deciding power, or the person who offers the biggest bribe. Duh.
>>544586092If you are too stupid to understand then that's kind of the point. You can't give a limited commodity to everyone you fucking retard. You just admitted it. I sweat to god leftists need there brains kicked in.
>>544569501>everyone>including illegals and non-existent scam "patients"
>>544586211Are you under the impression triage doesn't exist under the current system? lmao
>>544585875I'm sure that never happens now and the richest guy (((old))) doesn't just buy it. You're right, give the money to the jews instead. Your logic is flawless. You "people" are a cancer that needs to be cut out.
>>544585988Fucking retard. "Free" healthcare will either bankrupt us will lead to the worst healthcare in the world. We already welcomed and subsidized the procreation of the most disgenic and greedy/selfish people on the planet. We do not have a population that can sustain the demand for "free" healthcare. We have some of the worst mutants on earth.
>>544569674>vid not relatedWhy the fuck do these idiots watch videos of foids? Have you faggots never actually interacted with women? They're so fucking annoying even irl. They have the dumbest opinions ever. The only thing that makes them even slightly tolerable is railing their brains out for several hours of the day.Can anyone explain to me why someone would watch a video from some foid online? I'm genuinely curios what would possess someone to do that. Have they never interacted with IRL foids? The most annoying thing ever is having to listen to them talk, and on the internet I guarantee their opinions are 1000x worse than irl. IRL you can rail those opinions out of them but online you're just a cuck. And who the fuck downloads this bullshit? Go kys kike
>>544586295Do you realize you are literally arguing my point? So universal healthcare just means you get to decide who dies, instead of who is rich. I'm starting to feel bad that you might actually be retarded
>>544585924It's gonna be when it's bailout like King Nigger did with GM>>544585971>let him believe what he wants>there is no saving that one.Classic groupthink. Thinking your saving people with your horseshit. Are you a Jehovah's witness by chance?>>544586183>I figured it would take a little longer for the money spigot to switch off before this shit started happening.The spigot was superfluous. The scams in this country are outrageous. USAID? USAID is a drop in the fucking bucket compared to the sheer debt, "Foreign aid", healthcare scammers, insurance scammers...insurance in general a whole fucking scam industry. It got shut off and the rebound is what you hear. All the little mice in Utopia bitching and moaning. Hope they eat each other, their females already kill their babies.Their slavery? No. All they need to do is get a job, or starve lol.
>>544586363What happens to the people who can't afford a new kidney under our current system?
>>544586452They also die. So where is this magical system where there are kidneys for everyone again?
>>544569501Everyone in America can get healthcare. Just go to the hospital like the illegals and give fake info
>>544586568Nobody has ever said under universal healthcare there would be infinite organ transplants
>>544586417They aren't going to starve peacefully, is my point. So the options are death or slavery, like the old days before "enlightenment" ideas polluted the minds of people.Locking violent criminals up in prisons is another retarded idea. You either whip/flog them, or execute them.Thieves should have their hands removed.Rapists their dicks cut off.Child killers burned at the stake.Scammers treated like thieves.Prison is bullshit and a waste of money.
>>544586588>Proponent of the system recommends defrauding the systemWell that's a ringing endorsement
>>544586661If you leave food out, the ants will come. Ever wonder why cities are 70% brown? I wonder why.
>>544570484>Free healthcare means longer waits for worse service. Got a lump on your breast? Have fun waiting 6 months for a cancer screening.Migger it took me 8 fucking months of fighting back and forth with my (((insurance company))) to get a fucking MRI that I still had to pay a (((deductible))) of several hundred dollars for. >High wait times AND high prices, the most Jewish of both worlds. MIGA!
>>544570484Germany's healthcare beats us in terms of quality, wait times, and cost. For what we're paying, we should be able to beat them.
>>544586632Any hospitals? And Nurses? And elder care? And transplant?. etc. etc. etc. All things that need to be paid for. You are just redistributing the system from people that pay into it to the poor people under the the guise of altruism. You can't sign a piece of legislation and magically make it all available to everyone. But once you have a real job you'll understand.
>>544569501dems suck too, tkd
>>544586826>things that need to be paid for.All things that are CURRENTLY being paid for, by us as a nation. The single payer system will actually cost us a trillion less than what we're paying now
>>544586826Universal healthcare would be literally cheaper than our current system by cutting out the middlemen insurance companies and bulk purchasing medication. You're simply too stupid to understand $8000 in taxes is preferable to $20,000 in bills.
>>544570484People already have to wait 6+ months to see specialists under the current system because doctors have to appeal insurance companies multiple times before they agree their cancer-ridden insurance policy holder probably should see an oncologist.
>>544586588>and give fake infoDon't even need to do that. Just sign up for Medicaid and all treatment is free. Even with the new work requirements the Republicans left so many loopholes that Medicaid is still basically free especially in the blue states.
>>544569846You should be writing
>>544586661We tried having an execution stream, but all the crybabies wouldn't have it. Guess that means they want it done in private. Slowly it's getting better, the deportations are unfortunately taking priority but once those numbers get manageable and every state starts getting their shit in order (if they want their federal bennies) they'll be more feds to crack down on domestic terrorism. Really how it's being done is great. ICE and feddies can go into any state no matter what their sanctuary faggot laws are and make arrests. This makes those places magnets for illegals to be swept up with less resources hunting them down plus all the blue state residents get to pay extra in taxes because their governors will (soon) not be getting federal money for their actions. The only thing holding that up is of course liberal faggot judges but they always cave.
>>544586999>just $8000 more in taxes goy and the government will take care of youall you of commie kike faggots will fucking hang
>>544586697I've never been in a city that smelled good. The rank defilement of the "humans" that live in them boxed together like prisoners seeps into every sense. They live lives seeking materialism and vanity, wracked by sin and pollution, and consuming untold quantities of resources where only the vermin seek to occupy their presence(roaches, rats).
>>544587093You don't even realize you're the good goy in this situation lmao
>>544587142What's it like being born after the year 2000 kid? Still think you can fix everything huh
>>544587093>Noooooo you can't just pay less overall per year to the government. Won't someone think of health insurance kikes???
>>544575410because its an AI picture that brown shills repost here because they are fucking retarded
>>544587189Swing and a miss
>>544587065This country isn't ready for what needs to be done. They can't even handle seeing illegals and their children getting deported. And JD Vance said he wouldn't watch that execution, as though a US Marine is too good to watch a man that killed his fellow soldiers face a military execution. Pussy ass bitch nigger lawyer faggot.
>>544571317>Miggeryes we know you're brown and using a VPN.
>>544569501Now hear me out Mr. President what if instead making healthcare free in the US we don't join forces and make an alliance by sending americans to be treated here in Brazil for free? You see, medical care is free here. It is top notch? Hell no, but it can be greater if we manage to get people to the right places.
>>544587199lolwut
>>544587189I bet you think that Republicans can't easily do any of the things they campaigned on despite controlling all 3 branches of government too
>>544586825>Germany's healthcare beats us in terms of quality, wait times, and cost.No shit, they're still like 75% White. We're a multi cultural shithole entirely owned by jews. This bitch is going down quick and if you're still thinking free healthcare will be a thing you're in for a real surprise. Best start buying local and learning how to set your own bones, or the bones of others. In fact I'm going to start researching that tonight. This kike run country is fucked and relying on the government for anything is downright retarded. Look at all the chaos habbening in france right now. I personally moved to a pro-White area with a bunch of Nazis. Best of luck. I ain't too worried about it with a massive stockpile of food and ammo. City cucks are going to get eaten alive by nigger hordes kek
>>544587290Are you an ESL retard or something? I can dumb it down for you if you really need me to
>>544587254You see, São Paulo state countryside have great infrastructure, cities are well build and crime is way lower than in big cities. We could build a whole hospital setting for treating foreigners mostly with apartments and things like that, I know a lot of people needs some serious treatments that might be too expensive in US, also surgery and so on.
>>544587393>le redditor
>>544587436Ok yeah you must be an ESL retard if you think I said anything in your pic. Turn off your VPN, Rajesh.
>>544584242Ambulance rides are free here and not 2k, retard.
>>544587142Tell me what percentage of tax a 0$ income person will pay? >hurr but they pay taxes on their government dole. This is why it won't work and this is why america will never have national >>544587199The second we get "free" healthcare is the second I and million go on welfare too. I'm not paying for your health or your fucking college debt either.>>544587236This country is 100% ready for what needs to be done, at least the majority of it not covered by propaganda networks. Tell me what sense would it make for a George Soro's donated media corp to cover Trump Rally's and everyday normies telling them they're sick of the illegals? None. In fact none of those people would ever talk to a media site out of fear they'll be doxxed like the thousands of others they've doxxed for having an opinion 90% of the (legal)% of the country has. Fuck talk to any legal who actually immigrated here legally, they fucking hate them more than natural Americans hate them. Those are the people media really never cover.The only backlash you've seen is of course the backlash you expected. BLM, the college bints. It was great, I love watching those two retards get fucking shot, I hope they have another protest.I'm reminded of:>You're not getting my name you're getting a "fuck you!"
>>544569501Only Israel should have free healthcare!!!!!
>>544587515>Ok yeah you must be an ESL retard if you think I said anything in your pic.typed by brown hands. I'm still not paying for your healthcare poorfag lol
>>544587527Just because someone is poor doesn't mean they deserve to die kike
>>544574430It sure seems that way.
>>544587527>The second we get "free" healthcare is the second I and million go on welfare too. I'm not paying for your health or your fucking college debt either.The second you're given the opportunity to abuse a system you immediately turn into a leech? Non-white mentality
>>544571077I would rape this fucking guy if i had the chance
>>544569846we already subsidize the entire planet so they can have "Free" healthcare why can't we subsidize our own people?
>>544587595>I'll pay for Israeli Healthcare, but I draw the line at my own country benefitting from it
>>544587429Think about it, is in our constitution that medical care is free for everyone. In the past we made an alliance with Cuba, can you imagine, call "More doctors" which brought a bunch of cuban doctors to Brazil so they could go take care of people in distant regions where our doctors usually don't feel like going so we got a precedent of making such alliances.
>>544569501Why do libshits think more gibs are even possible?
>>544569501What a demented orangutan nigger.
>>544587727>if you dont pay for poorfags and brown people healthcare, you love the kikes!truly astounding logic anon
>>544587605Just because someone is poor doesn't mean they deserve to not get a fucking job.>>544587667>The second you're given the opportunity to abuse a system you immediately turn into a leech? Non-white mentalitySo if there is going to be "free" healthcare to abuse then it's only going to be abused by the non whites? Another great reason to not have it.
>>544587605that's where you're wrong my brown friend
>>544587802Having a job in this kiked economy doesn't mean you can afford our kiked healthcare
>>544587527The problem the left has are right wing terrorists, like me. See, they play with fireworks. I play with gelignite. They play with tear gas. I play with chlorine. They play with sticks. I play with guns. And cannons. And bombs. And chemical weapons. And biological weapons. And electronic weapons.I use chainsaws, power tools, flame throwers, napalm, thermite grenades, and other fun things.But most importantly, I can teach anyone how to make and use these weapons safely using pragmatic techniques and in layman's terms, from items found basically everywhere. The right wing lunatics haven't struck yet because we know when to strike. A strike must be fatal, fast, and brutal beyond all normal comprehension. It must be so shocking and devastating that it throws the enemy into disarray.
>>544587363whatever. Still not interested in dying from lack of healthcare.
>>544587001This. And then you go and wait 2 hours in the waiting room, the specialist comes in to see you disinterestedly for all of 5 minutes, then tells you you'll have to see a different kind of specialist, booked another 6 months out.
>>544587527>Tell me what percentage of tax a 0$ income person will pay?10,000%
>>544587802>So if there is going to be "free" healthcare to abuse then it's only going to be abused by the non whites? Another great reason to not have it.How do you abuse access to healthcare?
>>544587847>Still not interested in dying from lack of healthcare.I get it. But if you think that this multi culti shithole run by kikes is gonna give (You) free healthcare I got a bridge to sell you in Kansas. This bitch is too big to support "free" healthcare. Best bet is not eat goyslop. I'm sorry if you have some delusion that a 300m multi racial jewish run state will give you "free" healthcare. yeah, it sucks... but that's what happens when boomers let the jews take over. I'm just dealing in reality anon
The problem with healthcare is democrats are holding it hostage. I live in a blue state that imposed tons of new pointless taxes yet somehow we don't have "Medistate subsidized healthcare" or some shit like we should. It is literally not hard to impose sin tax hikes on shit like fast food and candy and let that pay for 'free' healthcare.
How many countries which Republicans warn me are sending migrants here for healthcare already have socialized medicine
>>544588000>advocating for more taxes for gubmint benefitsI hope all of you niggers get hit by a train
>>544587786What i'm saying is that having a way to send those with serious medical conditions to be treated in Brazil could be a good way to do it. There is plenty of American mormons around here that could support families in treatment. Like kids going on chemo and so on.
>>544588065>gubmint benefitsWould be possible if we didn't have open borders. I'm not sure how these shitlibs think that we can have infinite healthcare when kikes keep importing infinity shitskins. We could have all these benefits in a fully White society. The problem is and always has been the jew.
>>544587836Having a job also means you're healthy enough to not have healthcare too. Don't worry, as these privileged homos flood the market making a nightmare for illegal alien employers to find actual productive americans, they'll have to start actually competing on wages/benefits. I can only imagine what would happen if they got rid of the Minority tax credit. Then you'll really have a flood of useless niggers to sift though.>>544587896Goddamn, a whole janny's salary. In fact that gives me an idea for a politician. Say you tax poor people a higher percentage so that rich people feel better, even though said poor are only paying that higher tax on free money that's simply deducted from their bennies.>>544587977So basically I'm just gonna keep canceling healthcare until the left decides to act on their antisemitism so I don't get gaslit into jail. I know….. UGH I know…. I’m sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!It’s just that I’m not gonna vote for it is all.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAAHAAHA
>>544572346Weirdly a Democrat congress and senate could probably give him more of his policies than the completely compromised GOP. They won't get exactly what they want, but could actually get something done...Hm, maybe them winning in November could be a good thing.
>>544569501making insurers compete is le bad thing. WOAH!!!!!!!1
>>544586417I mean you're the one arguing for cuban and european healthcare like it's something to be admired. Facts don't care about your feelings, anon. Considering the EU socialist paradise has been living stress-free from the protection that the US provides, I can imagine them living longer healthier lives than the people paying for it with money and blood.
>>544588309We're likely to have some kind of healthcare expansion after the election. Trump will still demand his $1.5 trillion defense budget and the new Democrat-controlled congress will probably agree in exchange for restoring the ACA subsidies and removing the Medicaid work requirements. Going to be a lot more inflation and much higher interest rates though with all the increased government spending on both defense and healthcare.
>>544570029I could also kick your ass like you deserve, but here we are.
>>544570070Shouldn't have stolen the election, then we wouldn't have had to sat through Biden and would've gotten Trump out of the way four years youngerRETARD
>>544588438>Considering the EU socialist paradise has been living stress-free from the protection that the US providesLolLmao
>>544588706>spends all their shekels on universal healthcare>thinks they're going to win any war in europe without US assistancelollmao
>>544570585We have free healthcare here. Literally, find a private clinic or live with the cancer gacha in you for 8 months, waiting in the queue. big surprise!We effectively pay for healthcare 2 times: through taxes and when we actually need it.
>>544588925Yes. That's the joke. And the "assistance" will be us installing dictators to off years later when their European countries resemble the middle east enough. They practically are ready now. We love their healthcare btw because they fly to us when they have a 4 month waiting period and spend their money here on our doctors instead.
Lefties are boring as fuck, at this point.
>>544589098>>544589124holy cope the miggercaust will be one for the ages, even better than the 2016 shitlib holocaust
>>544589124This. Its always the same tired bullshit. Free this unlimited that. All to uplift the scum of society.
>>544569501This quote proves Trump cares about corporate profits and not the people he is sworn to serve. Not a surprise of course but it’s an admission de facto.
