I don't want "democratic" socialism.I want National Socialism.
>>544575715You tried and lost already, tranny.
>>544575799He likes to be humiliated
>>544575715I would also like National Socialism
>>544575715>demsoc is just more capitulation in exchange for a handful of social winspeak female ideology
>>544575799>>544575889You do realize it took the entire world to take down national socialist Germany. It was also national socialism which brought Germany back from the brink since they were about to collapse as a country before the national socialists came to power.Why are you both hiding behind memeflags?
Socialism in all forms is stupid. I wish socialists would just fight among themselves as they love doing anyway and otherwise stay out of politics.
>>544575715that movie is about a man who feels modern liberal democracy is losing its power and relevance and he wants to fight to keep it B T W
>>544576163What form of government do you prefer?
>>544575715Well you can't have it we're not serving it.
>>544575715I'm afraid we stopped offering that in 1945. Can I offer you Civic Nationalism instead?
>>544576285I'd prefer that government leave people to handle their own business affairs.
>>544575715I want to be left the fuck alone.
you dont even know what national socialism is
>>544576149Do you think jews are white?
>>544575715>I want National Socialism.I want National.Capitalism, socialism (all flavors), communism, and all other “-isms” are all derivatives of judaism.They exist for the sole purpose of inflicting central banking on a target population.Fiat currency is fake money that steals from everyone who is not the banker.
>>544575715yeah well hey, im really sorry
>>544576506Okay that's cute but can you give me a more realistic answer? There will always be a government being entangled in people's affairs especially when dealing with large countries. What you purpose only semi-works in small communities.>>544576605No jews and European descent white people aren't he same. Considering them white is like thinking hispanics and indians are the same because they are both brown.Now answer me this why did you feel the need to bring that question up from out of no where?
>>544577009Jews are white though
>>544575715USA FOR SATAN!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJj-AR_ZLsc
>>544575715I don't want socialism of any form. I want capitalism.
>>544576837When you account for the amount of hispanics that are counted as "white" the percentage becomes much higher than 19%>>544577079They are "white" when it fits their purpose at that moment then they quickly revert back to their jewishness being their ethnicity. What exactly makes them the same as those of white European descent other than skin color? Do you consider american indians and dot head indians the same simply because they have brown skin?
>>544577009>There will always be a government being entangled in people's affairsMaybe, but not out of necessity.At the very least I'd like it to not be fundamental policy that most if not all industry should be centralized. I think that's actually a very humble request. I'd make more but this is where I come into conflict with socialists.
>>544576504actually>yes
>>544577186Shalom!
>>544577432Socialism was invented by German Jews to subvert the Russian Empire. All of the Soviet leadership was Jewish. To this day, the Jew is the main proponent of socialism.
>>544577370>Maybe, but not out of necessity.There is no maybe there will be because all throughout human history it always happens in some form or another. Usually it is also out of necessity as well because what do people always turn to when there is big business or one individual cornering the market for themselves or their small group of friends.....the government to crack down on them. Whether be for the right or the wrong reasons this is usually how the government does expand into people's affairs eventually mainly because of bad actors within the society. Those within the government always have that want to expand their power as well. This is how it always plays out.
>>544577079OP, would you object to me drowning this poaster in a bog?
>>544575715Same, not the H-man’s level but natsoc nonetheless
>>544576504I’ll accept it if there’s only migration from first world countries allowed
>>544577878if you don't accept Bulgarians, we'll revoke the yogurt license.
>>544577557Even if socialism is inevitable that doesn't make it any less stupid. You could even argue that makes it more stupid. But I disagree and frankly I wish socialists would argue the point with other socialists instead of me.
>>544575715So you don't want any say!But, why are you talking then?
>>544576641>but it's le hecking socialism guys!!!you haven't read National Socialist theory, nor any kind of 3rd positionist philosophyhell you didn't even read Spengleryou are a fucking retard and you should be shot and killed for being the waste of oxygen you are
>>544575715>I want National Socialism.Yeah well, I'm really sorry.
>>544577370laissez-faire leads to centralization too
>>544578109>you haven't read National Socialist theory, nor any kind of 3rd positionist philosophyYes, I have.National Socialist Germany just took a page out of the Jew handbook and jewed their economy into a borrowed prosperity (sound familiar) which ultimately failed.Peronism is another example that failed utterly on the National part.All they did was for a multinational socialist state.Look what happened.>hell you didn't even read SpenglerNo, but I see what his idiotic views have done for the White race in Europe.
>>544577009>What you purpose only semi-works in small communities.tbf, socialism only semi-works in small communities too. like your family. or maybe, if I'm charitable, a small group of like-minded socialist friends. americans have a very romanticized view of socialism, frfr...
>>544575715Or, say I don't want internationalist socialism, I want nationalist socialism
I want democratic nationalismThe catch with democratic anything is that people have to vote the same way as you
>they pretend to pay us, and we pretend to workyou don't want this for your nation, trust me.
Socialism requires international solidarity in order to keep power from reverting back into the hands of international bourgeoisie for many non-hegemonic or non-rising power nations on the world. National Socialism was a bourgeois scam mutilating socialism into aryan/volkish-myth nonsense to excite the racial animus and wounded pride of the lumpenproletariat and other reactionaries in Germany. All the industries and resources were stolen by private interests from the people of Germany rather than being nationalized. Entire groups of marginalized people were scapegoated and blamed for the dismal material conditions instead of actually going after punishing the government officials and business owners responsible. The majority of investment went into the war economy to steal and and resources from the neighboring countries and keep the population distracted and crack down on dissent.
>>544578710It's a bourgeois scam. Socialism can't hold in many places alone because they are not strong enough to resist against the international bourgeoisie. Why don't you want internationalist socialism?
>le good people are b-bad, because the bad people are bad, but they wanna be good toosocialismus in a nutshell.I have to remind you that these are the people who hated farmers for producing too much food.
>I’d like some Nationalism please. Just the Nationalism.>okay. *kills white people*>No I want THAT Nationalism *points at Bible*>they don’t make that anymore sir *kills white people*
>>544580593you mean the grain they were green-lighted to grow and then they hoarded it to profit from the people who were starving? Sounds pretty bad to me.>>544580650Capital-N Nationalism isn't in the Bible. The time and place of biblical narratives had feudal economies and the people where ruled by monarchs and emperors.
>>544581729sounds like the post-hoc justification for the murderous rage of a crowd of envious losers. who were fed btw, they just wanted even more.
>>544581973Anyone only needs so much of buckwheat, satiety is a thing. "murderous rage of a crowd of envious losers" - this is dehumanization coming from a place or prejudice.
>>544575715Imagine the death camps we could make today.
>>544581729and also, what the fuck do you mean "green lighted"? you grow as much as your land's capacity and the climate allows, and that's it. you get good years and bad years. you store some surplus from the good years to account for the bad years. hello???>>544582288yes, I intentionally worded it in an inflammatory way to catch your attention. now that you're here, we may discuss. why are you a socialist/communist?
>>544576149>Our ideology is so hated it will turn the world against us>This is a benefitBrain dead retard lmfao, Stalin won. Get over it.
>>544577993If you revoke my yogurt license, I'll rape your fucking corpse.
>>544582556relax mate, I'm talking to the nip. or did you forget your vpn?
>>544576285A nationalistic republic based on true Christian morals, from back when jews were ostracized. That would mean no multiculturalism, no false religions, no jew bankers, and no women in power
I'm being drafted?How did that happen?I voted the way they told me to.
>>544582594Sorry man, I get a little heated about dairy.Please start a farm if you immigrate.
>>544582475>you grow as much as your land's capacity and the climate allows, and that's it. you get good years and bad years. you store some surplus from the good years to account for the bad years Yes, but there was still plenty of left over on top of that.> I intentionally worded it in an inflammatory way to catch your attention.I'm sure, you're a master manipulator OOooOOoooI like socialism for a number of reasons. From moral/ethical reasoning it is the best possible path of maximally eliminating unnecessary suffering and ensures human flourishing.
>>544582644How does removing certain demographics make a government more preferable rather than just a place more preferable? Christian morals are already mostly human universals anyways other than american protestant evangelical hand-ups. Many governments grant those rights. Do you understand how this white christian nationalist government actually would work?
>>544582987it's kind of a joke with some historical context about japanese and bulgarian relations surrounding dairy. you don't need to worry about it too much. I do intend to visit, but idk if I'll stay. honestly, I'd rather move to japan than america, but please don't be offended, I think your country has some pretty cool things going about it too.>>544583121>you're a master manipulator OOooOOooonah, I'm an apprentice manipulator at best>I like socialism for a number of reasons. From moral/ethical reasoning it is the best possible path of maximally eliminating unnecessary suffering and ensures human flourishing.I literally don't believe any of that, and I believe the violence, necessary to enact socialism, far enworsens the world, compared to the potential benefits of your goal, to the point that it's not worth it. Just leave people alone.
>>544583828The violence and social murder of the international bourgeoisie is immiserating our world. The global system of capitalism touches us all. They are not leaving anyone alone. Utopian Socialism is not feasible but Scientific Socialism is.
>>544575715fuck off boomer and your weird words
>>544581729>>544579856>>544576247>>544576163Constitutional Monarchism is the lone censored subject in both The East and The West.
>>544584787Censored? Not in America at least; just unpopular.
>>544575715I think it's inevitably going to make a comeback. Liberal democracy is failing and Marxist socialism is incompatible with civilization. Ironically, China's present ideology is closer to national socialism than that of any other country today. I don't think it's a coincidence that China keeps on trucking despite all of the Western doomer predictions about it. They're better equipped to handle the coming turmoil than we are.The climate crisis is only going to accelerate things, and I suspect that it will be the trigger. Higher temperatures and natural disasters will cause tens (if not hundreds) of millions of third-worlders to migrate north in search of resources, akin to The Camp of the Saints. It will be the ultimate case of lifeboat ethics. Europeans will be forced to choose between either letting in the migrant hordes, condemning their nations to destruction via overconsumption of resources and racial violence, or closing off the continent and defending it with maximum force in order to preserve their civilization. This will likely result in the largest, most widespread famine the world has ever seen as populations that depend on the West for food lose their supply of foreign aid. The liberal world order cannot deal with such a crisis, and Marxists would like to see the West disintegrate. Only national socialism offers a framework for dealing with this problem. We might see a sort of eco-Nazism develop as this issue becomes more and more apparent.Personally, I feel uneasy about the idea, but I fear that there will be no alternative if the West is to survive.
>>544584787because monarchism has been kind of defeated already, has it not? I mean, yeah, you can have the perfect benevolent king, who does everything right, and you have 80 years of prosperity, but what happens when he dies? I'm not gonna pretend that monarchy doesn't solve *some* of the problems of democracy, but it also introduces new ones, and it's been extensively tested throughout history, and largely been deemed lacking. so yeah.>>544584400ugghhh, I'm not sure from which angle to start picking apart your comment.>The violence and social murder of the international bourgeoisie is immiserating our world.ok so just rich people being rich is violence now? cos there's many different types of rich people, many different ways of being rich, and many different ways of how they got there.>The global system of capitalism touches us all.yes it fucking does, and honestly that's a good thing, because it makes nations interdependent, and disincentivizes wars.>Utopian Socialism is not feasible but Scientific Socialism is.I'm really not sure what the difference is.>>544582987man, if the socialists could wave their magic wand and bring about world peace and cover all my needs, you know what I would be? I'd be a cheese-maker.PS: ignore my new ID, my mobile data IP got banned for some reason.
>>544576149You realize world war 2 was planned right
>>544584787Just make the jump to ancap already it’s basically monarchy with style. Constitutionalism is nonsense.
>>544577186Dumb and Jewish.
>>544586058Marxist socialism is compatible with civilization, fascism is not. China is not national socialism. Han nationalism is not a thing. There are 56 ethnic groups within China and they are protected from discrimination. They were even allowed to have more of an equitable amount of children during the one-child policy blunder. Resources are kept artificially scarce by the bourgeoisie and their corrupt lackeys have degraded public services through austerity. Instead of holding them accountable and punishing them for their crimes they rather have you fixate and blame immigrants and migrants for the crisis they generate at home and abroad which they also profit from. They have already cut the limited amount of aid they give to other countries for soft power. They dupe people by propagating nihilism, cynicism, racism, and xenophobia. This doomsaying is based more on fantasy than reality. Judging people in need automatically as a threat which needs to be met with force is the opposite of civilized. Marxists understand we need to have solidarity and lift each other up to save humanity from the parasitic capitalist class and thrive. National socialism is an oxymoronic framework which would disintegrate the West; it already almost did! Your feeling of unease is insincere.
>>544575715Heil Hitler!
>>544577154Satan is sooo misunderstood.
>>544577186>I don't want socialism of any form. I want capitalism.Found the old rich faggot.
