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Was it worth it?
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itll be worth it when they raise russian flag over constantinople you disgusting nigger
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>>544608282
Imagine if this was Americans troops in Iran
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>>544608370
Why are americans on the russian side now?
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Land has more worth than russian lives so from their perspective, yes.
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>>544608282
Why do we have to take sides in the conflict? Can we not just say we hope both sides have fun?
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>>544608370
Only if they send the ogre
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>>544608370
>constantinople
Did they capture Kostiantynivka yet?
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>>544608418
you know why
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>>544608282
Depends on how many Ukrainians died in the process.
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>>544608404
That would be sweet. Only good zogbot is a dead zogbot.
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looks like a necromancer ran through and cast corpse explosion
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>>544608418

1858 treaty found in the archives
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fake
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>>544608282
That's how you farm Hivzzat on the Eurasian steppes.
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>>544608680
The main fake thing here are your claims to be a Christian, civilised country, you subhuman bandit murderer.
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>>544608282
Dozens of your rapist granfathers getting drafted by russians
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Dead ziggers are always worth it.
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>>544608856
Cry about holodomor toilet cleaner
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How do I know these aren't Ukrainians? It's not very plausible that Russia suffers casualties like these. /uhg/ has lied to me too many times
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>>544608282
AHHHHHHHHHHHHH UKRANI SISTERS!!!!!!
THIS IS SO GLORIOUS
IT
IS
OVYIR
FOR RUZZIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!
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>>544608473
yeah well that's because russian lives are inherently worthless
trading in zero for a grain of sand would be a net positive win
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>>544608680

Absolutely those Russians newer exists.....just like you when is your turn.
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>>544608418
Because tucker carlson told them it was democrats vs republicans
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>>544608418
They aren’t. ALL of this is fake and gay. They are desperate.
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>>544608282
Attaching a digital flag to a body doesn't mean anything. If it truly was beaten down Ukraine would show it in person
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>>544609044
Its pretty gay but not faoe at all. Russia wants ukrainian soil since it lost it after the cold war. Thisnis the 2nd time they went for.it since nobody slapped them down after crimea
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>>544608282
The lack of empathy russoids have for their own people is fascinating. They truly are low iq mongoloid barbarians
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>>544608282
Based russians using mongoloids as cannonfodder
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>>544609079
If it was real they would personally bring the dead bodies to me complete with passports and 2 eye witnesses to prove it was real.
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>>544608370
This. Conquering land is worth ANY number of russian lifes. They are basically worthless
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>>544608282
worth it to see more ukros dragged to their deaths also
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>>544609166
Odd they are to scared to go check. Why is that?
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im convinced a substantial number of the people who support russia on here are one of 3 things;

>paid shills
>bots
>sub-80 IQ low-information americans who are ideologically captured by russian propaganda/lies

there is also genuine tankies/communists but they are pretty rare
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>>544609318
>I come to the politically incorrect site to support my government's position
Cretin
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>>544609079
>If it truly was beaten down Ukraine would show it in person

hpw many videos would you like to see? because i have literally thousans like this
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>>544609415
>im a contrarian retard who automatically takes the opposite position of my government regardless of whether or not it's correct
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>>544608680
>only russian flag in this thread so far
what do russians feel when they see this? cope?
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>>544609549
>I will accuse others of being bots & shills while I parrot what I heard on the news today
xD
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>>544608282
>>544609137
amazing how fuckin nothing has changed about the russian art of war, i.e. sending the average ivan the despot in moscow couldn't give less of a shit about as expandable cannon fodder into frontal assaults until the enemy hopefully runs out of ammo. imagine being a patriot for such a country lulz
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>>544608370
>when they raise russian flag over constantinople
American fantasy of Russia
vs
Reality of Russia
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>>544609578
I mean they couldnt complain about it even if they wanted to so you dont really see much in the way of diacussion
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>>544609578
They're not allowed to feel anything. They have to be "apolitical" oligarch cattle slaves
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>>544609677
Compared to the German art of war of losing half your country it seems to work
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>>544608418
When Finland fought Russia in 1939-1944, they found American made food cans among the russian troops.
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>>544609677
Time is a flat circle. Americans also havent fundamentally changed since the pioneer days. Only now we have to go overseas to find brown savages to genocide, we put ours in casinos because we beat them too hard.
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>>544609610
i dont watch the news
you're the one parroting state controlled media talking points, russian state.
let me guess, you believe there was a genocide against russians in donbass. you believe the Ukrainians made russian language illegal.
and you've never bothered to look into whether either of these things actually ever happened (they didn't.).
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>>544608282
oh my heckin youtuber slop!!

they put little russian flags on all the dead oinkrainians!!!
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>>544609812
Modern life isnt about facts and truth its about vibe believing
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You thought it was worth killing dozens of men for a farm, so clearly there are bigger principles at play than just farmland.
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>>544608282
Total vatnigger death
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>>544609812
Did Piers Morgan tell you that, crown subject? We'll see you in the Donbas too :)
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>>544608282
Best money ever spent!!!
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>>544609698
>>544609734
so they totally don't feel anything, Blade Runner 2049-style?
Perfect Goycattle
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>>544610022
What do you feel when you look at this?
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>>544608282
Beautiful to see so many dead shitbags
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>>544610164
Are those dead russians?
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>>544609318
The single biggest supporters of russia online are the "global south". Aka indians, chinese, africans, arabs, iranians. (including those that immigrated to Europe). All third worlders hold grudge against Europeans for colonialism and they want to see europe and western world domination destroyed.

They don't even realized that without the western world order, half the population of Africa and India would starve to death.
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>>544608282
Daily NAFO cope.
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>>544610022
Oh no they feel things they are just very private about it.

Im america you could tell everyone you meet that you think the president is a fat retarded piece of shit qho doesnt know what he's doing and at worst some boomer might curse at you.

But in Russia even something as minor as saying "I think the war is going poorly and we should reconsider our actions" will get you abducted by the FSB, beaten with rusty batons, and then forced to read a statement on local TV denouncing your previous anti-patriotic statements before getting shipped off to a labor camp for 12 years where you will die of tuberculosis.
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>>544610561
Wow, you could call the President fat, that surely changes things. Such freedumbs.
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>>544608282
it could be ukrainians, flag picture over the body is not a proof

there were hundreds of cases before where ukrainians showed own bodies as russians
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>>544610668
Hello Ivan. I will in fact continue to enjoy my freedom of speech thank you very much.
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>>544610723
Don't forget to talk loudly
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>>544610164
wish we had another russian in this thread to shed some light, but unfortunately, judging from the memeflag, you are not one, right?
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>>544610509
Meanwhile you try to LARP as Western and they still call you a roach, sad life
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>>544610789
You'll just have to simulate the experience by reading my words very loud in your head. Do it in a John Wayne accent too pilgrim.
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>>544608958
Given that you've been seetheposting under that memeflag for almost 5 years now, I feel like you are the true toilet cleaner.
Plus, Russians clean Polish toilets, Poles only cleaned Bong toilets only they can say that.
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>>544608282
Green was the start.
Light red is what has been taken
Purple is going to happen.
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>>544610818
>Memeflag shitting on any flag
Depends on the Turk btw, some are whiter than others.
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>>544611037
What happened over there?
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>>544608282
Hot Take:
You're not a world power unless you've lost a division on some worthless piece of land.
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>>544611037
At R*ssia's current pace Jewtin will be long dead before they get even close to conquering all of that
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>>544611130
Stupid metric, plenty of shitty third world states have lost millions and they're not world powers.
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>>544611120
Boris Johnson decided to turn what could have been a quick war into a generational war.
Now the jews duped the White Men of the West into another brother war, costing jewcraine its ability to exist (no amount of breeding will return ukraine to demographic existence).
If jewlinksy had surrendered then, there would be a country, the jews told the piggers to fight, and now the country will no longer exist as a nation of people.
The jews laugh.
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>>544611201
ZERO world powers have NOT lost a division in scrubland.
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>>544611177
NAFO troons and jewish harvest loving jews have been saying that since the green.
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>>544611037
>the Russhaa taking Kherson again
i hope the negros learned swim, bc amphibious landings are russian disaster kino
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>it was worth it..
>for the 4chan victories..
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>>544611228
>Boris Johnson decided to turn what could have been a quick war into a generational war
kek, he will do it again
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>>544611244
And all world powers have weaponry or money? What is your point?
You are attempting to diminish the pointless and tragic loss of these men because of your desire to normalise it.
>>544611259
Buzzword buzzword buzzword more buzzwords.
>>544611357
Cope zigger.
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>>544611177
it will be much faster, i think putin will live longer than ukrainian nation if war continues

ukraine loses more than 800k dead per year, >400k military, >400k civilian population reduction : natural death > birth rate (this process goes faster as war continues), its remaining population is around 22 mln people
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>>544611445
>Source
>His crumpled prolapsed anus
Yeah
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>>544611434
You're winning xD
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>>544608370
fpwp
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>>544611480
Go back to your browntown
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>>544610164
lol
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>>544611445
Ackshually 8 million hohols die each year, zister
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>>544611512
You need to move USA saar
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>>544608418
why even pick a side? you gonna go go fight for ukraine or russia? nah, didnt think so.
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>>544611357
>A nation honoring fallen is a bad thing
you're not white, right?
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>>544611660
Ah, when Ukrainians die it's HONOR, when Russians die it's ziggers..
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>>544611566
Nah, the USA for the most psrt overwhelmingly supports Ukraine. The only people that support Russia are the msot cultish MAGAtards that support anything Trump says, and they are a rapidly diminishing minority.
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>>544611721
Yes, r*ssians are worthless subhumans
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>>544608418
It’s a pretty basic concept that anglo policy for 250 years is to contain Russia. I don’t think we should slaughter othordox Christians to simply enrich banker class. Truth is Ukraine was needed by the west to expand the banking system and keep the printing going. I completely disregarded what ever the TV says to goyim masses. Why we thought we could coupe a Russian satellite state while their elite were preoccupied with the Winter Olympics is beyond me.
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>>544611445
Exactly sister! Russia has more bodies then the NAFO Nazis has munitions. It is a matter of numbers.
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>>544608282
Why did nafotrannies put russian flags to every pile of earth and rocks
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>>544611739
Trump won the popular vote
Le Pen, Mélanchon, AfD, Die Linke which are leading the polls in their countries all support dropping Ukraine
You're running out of money in 6 months
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>>544611721
>Ah, when Ukrainians die it's HONOR, when Russians die it's ziggers
well yes, so you aren´t that stupid after all
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>>544611476
>800k reduction official ukrainian data

depopulation is not linear if you you dont make children for 5 years and when your teenagers emigrate then you have even further birth rate reduction in future

so its realistic to assume ukrainian nation will die out in 15 years if war continues

putin is 74 years old, with modern medicine putin can live up to 95 years after he retires and does not get stress anymore
>>544611561
its reduction, not death

400k military death + 400k reduction (550k deaths - 150k live births)

number of deaths is close to 1 million per year
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>>544611989
Poles and Baltics combined don't have 1/10th of Russian accomplishments

You're just digging your own graves for the nth time
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>>544611721
Correct
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>>544612092
why are always memeflags the staunchest defenders of Russia on /pol/ ? Not even Russians put that in that much work
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>>544612092
>>544611888
So in the ideal dream scenario where Ukraine capitulates Russia takes them over what then? Whata going to be the narrative for reconciliation? That Evil America and Boris Johnson tricked poor Ukraine into fighting a brother war but now that they are unites with the motherland the filthy anglos will pay for their arrogance and tremble before the might of the Neo Soviet Union?
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>>544609318
Why is ukrainian victory preferable?
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>>544612192
Because it's funny to watch you kveltch which is the purpose of this website
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what is it about stupid people and not being able to see AI?
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>>544611818
russia has population increase

its pre war population was 146,9 mln, its current population is close to 146,1 mln in pre war territories

small natural reduction occured, they also lost around 150k military dead and aquired around 6 mln new citizens of working age (former ukrainian citizens)

russian current population is around 152 mln people

russians will outlive germans, french or any other western european nation
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>>544612303
but why memeflags? why not just israeli flag instead?
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>>544611888
every single one of the grifter traitors dropped russia like a hot potato the moment they won elections (see italy see austria)

its really fucking funny that abysmal subhumans just cannot stop fucking each other over.

kek
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>>544608370
In reality, it’s only Turkish guys waving their cocks over the asses of russian women, while russian losers men die in Ukraine, remaining eternal incels.
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>>544612255
Ukrainians will eventually accept to be a neutral state and that's the end of that

I'm telling you that the whole war was for nothing because they could have accepted it in February 21st 2022
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Anyone who wants to understand Russians, just read something about Collective Narcissism

>Collective Narcissism: This is a recognized psychological construct describing an in-group individual who demands constant external validation and privilege for their group. If they feel their group is disrespected, they react with intense hostility.
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>>544612255
Ukraine cannot "outlast" Russia, because Russia has far more human and material resources. If the conflict drags on for years, Ukraine will be the first to exhaust itself.
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>>544608282
Two nations with extinction level birthrates killing each other's young men. What a stupid fucking endeavor.
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>>544612627
Wow, you just described Western Liberals who can't accept that a foreign country might have different values and system of government
>n-no we must invade them!
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>>544612730
It's good to drain Russia completely in an attritional warfare. Slow grind into full collapse.
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>>544612627
Zelensky's ZOGolems are kidnapping Ukrainian men off the street and sending them to be murdered, why would you support this kike?
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>>544612794
Funny to talk about attrition with your munitions stockpile depleted lel
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>>544612794
>It's good to drain Russia completely in an attritional warfare. Slow grind into full collapse.
Alright, for the mentally retarded, I’ll repeat it once more:

Ukraine’s economy has a deep trade deficit: imports (mainly machinery, fuel, and chemical products) are more than twice the volume of its own exports.

Unlike Ukraine, Russia’s economy has a stable trade surplus (positive balance). The volume of Russia’s own merchandise exports consistently and substantially exceeds its imports.
For January–August 2026:
• Merchandise exports: $304.2 billion (up 13.8% compared with the same period last year).
• Merchandise imports: $201.3 billion (up 13.1%).
• Trade balance surplus: $102.9 billion (+16.4% year on year).
For comparison, for all of 2025 Russia’s exports amounted to $418.3 billion, imports to $279 billion, and the final positive balance reached $139.3 billion.
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>>544612730
your math doesn´t check out
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>>544612892
Xi never does anything and neither does Putin. Just keep Russians catching drones on the front for another 5 years, oil refinery strikes, etc. No reason to stop at all. The breakup of the Russian federation is the goal.
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>>544612965
In Ukraine there were a total of 20 Bentleys sold in 2025. Russians purchased 10 times as many.
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>>544612930
not reading that pasta
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>>544612930
Aaaa it doesn't matter Russia must lose because General Kellog said it on CNN! You don't understand! My entire worldview and mental sanity depends on Russia losing! They must lose or Voldemort wins!
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>>544608282
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>>544608282
If I was playing a 4X video game, I would happily trade a few dozen grunts for a farm.
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>>544612971
If you weren't an actual retard you would realize that the current state of affairs isn't free and no one wants to pay for it
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>>544613012
you've been posting for years now (I assume) nearly every week how "NOW" russia will lose and the epic blow was dealt, yet russia keeps on doing it's thing while ukraine keeps increasing the body snatching and is asking for more and more money endlessly that OUR taxes pay for. Why should anyone believe anything you spam, why do you think your spamming will now of all times sway anyone? Just curious, I don't understand posters like you and what your goal even is.
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>>544613088
Yeah russian taxpayers must be getting restless right?
>>544613114
>OUR taxes
who is this memeflag?
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>>544609472
>about 7 casualties
We need at least 100-200k videos like that. Over million casualties, remember...
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>>544613019
They exist just to shit up any thread that shows Russia in a positive light or Ukraine losing. Best bet is to not engage with them as their aim is to prevent discussion of the OP via engagement bait. None of this will stop Ukraine losing, however, so their efforts are wasted.
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>>544610675
You can tell because Ukranian soldiers wear the same uniforms and gear while Russoids are always mismatched to hell
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>>544608282
Well now Russia has +1 farm. How many farms do you have? 0
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>>544608370
Based
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>>544608513
>Depends on how many Ukrainians died in the process.
Fun fact: nobody cares
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>>544613011
Russia has approximately 10 million male residents between the ages of 18 and 40. This figure does not even account for the losses that have already occurred. They're already having a really hard time keeping their economy afloat...
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>>544612255
Remember when Ukraine nearly reached a peace deal with Russia and then Boris Johnson went to Ukraine to tell them not to cut a deal no matter what, the west would give them unlimited funds and supplies and they'd win for sure? 'Cause I remember.
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>>544613417
>Russia has approximately 10 million male residents between the ages of 18 and 40
It will be a good thing when it's "had". I hope this war goes on for another 15 years
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>>544608282
ANOTHER WAVE
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>>544613300
not only they have a farm, it comes pre-fertilized. Putin's a genius!
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>>544613513
How would your life improve if Russia didn't exist, seethecel? You could troon out peacefully in Siberia?
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>>544613496
>Remember when Ukraine nearly reached a peace deal with Russia
never happened
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>>544613417
>They're already having a really hard time keeping their economy afloat...
Growth up to 4.9% in 2024. Terrible. They will collapse tomorrow.
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>>544613604
>How would your life improve if Russia didn't exist, seethecel?
/pol/ would be a lot better and (You) probably wouldn't be here
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>>544613627
There is testimony from former Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett, who served as a mediator at the time. He later said that the positions of Western leaders differed: Johnson took a particularly hard line, while on the whole the Western allies decided to continue the fight against Putin. When asked whether the West had blocked that negotiation process, Bennett answered broadly in the affirmative, although he was not speaking only about Johnson.

Meanwhile, while part of the Western establishment continues to proceed from the naive assumption that technological superiority can compensate for the overall deterioration of the situation, Ukraine: 1) is experiencing a critical shortage of missiles for shooting down ballistic missiles, because they are not available in sufficient quantities even in the United States, which is engaged in a war with Iran; 2) is unable to ensure a technological edge.
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>>544612742
Cool it with the antisemitism
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>>544613513
There's a reason why Putin wants to strike a deal with Trump quickly now. By now, it must have dawned on the top brass that things can't go on like this
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>>544609812
schools refusing to teach Russian has been well documented all over the country, but it only led to conflict in the East because that's where all the Russian speaking Russians are. hmm imagine that.
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>>544613816
>There's a reason why Putin wants to strike a deal with Trump quickly now.
Exactly. He's desperate and the fuel crisis is spiraling. But Zelensky has the cards now and wants more.
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>>544613693
If you don't know anything about economics, you need to shut up. Pretty slides won't help you there either, Raj
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2100 dead ziggers yesterday. It was a new record.

I hope we break it again today
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>>544613827
>it only led to conflict in the East because that's where all the Russian speaking Russians are
were. they're all dead now
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>>544608487
Because the USA signed a treaty makign security guarantees for Ukraine.
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>>544613853
Desperation is not confirmed by public actions: Moscow keeps extending export bans and is looking for imports, but it does not demonstrate readiness for fundamental concessions. The crisis puts pressure on the economy, not necessarily on the negotiating position regarding territory. And 'wanting a deal' ≠ 'wanting this deal.'
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>>544614108
No it didn't idiot
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>>544614108
NATO expansion violated the unwritten agreements of the 1990s. The West ignored Russia’s warnings from 2008 onward.

NATO is a military bloc on Russia’s borders.
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>>544614126
>Desperation is not confirmed by public actions: Moscow keeps extending export bans
those are the public actions lmao. ahahahaha
>>544614152
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum
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>>544614197
>unwritten agreements
lmao. should have written them down
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>>544608282
They are fighting to De-Nazify Ukraine and liberate Africa. Of course it was worth it.
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>>544614197
>violated the unwritten agreements
lol
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>>544612790
>>544612798
it has a section about hiding ones identity while defending it too, memeflags.
go educate yourself, perhaps you can ascend and become human
or perhaps not
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>>544609137
Imagine they wouldn't do that and huge Russia had 500 million Russians. What a nightmare.
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>>544614251
NATO is the armed wing of the US-led global empire, and it regards Russia as its enemy, so it is not surprising that Russia perceives NATO's eastward expansion as a threat.
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>>544614208
Not a treaty, no guarantees
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>>544614306
Now Finland is in NATO too so it's very far east and 50 miles from downtown St. Petersburg
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>>544614238
For years, Western powers turned agreements into empty words when those agreements got in the way of their plans, while simultaneously accusing Russia of violating international law. Paper works selectively: for the weak, as an obligation; for the strong, as a tool.

When international law (for example, the UN Charter and the principle of territorial integrity) is advantageous, they invoke it. When it is not (as in the bombing of Yugoslavia in 1999 or the recognition of Kosovo), they circumvent it, citing 'humanitarian necessity' or the right to self-determination.
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>>544614238
>>544614251
It´s even better than "unwritten" it´s just non existing
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>>544613758
>One disagreement was over security guarantees. The Istanbul Communiqué said that if Ukraine was attacked and asked for help, the guarantor states would be obliged to help Ukraine militarily. The Russians then demanded this be changed so that the guarantor states would only defend Ukraine from an attack if "all guarantor states" agreed, including Russia. This meant that the Kremlin could veto a military intervention to defend Ukraine from an attack, including attacks by Russian forces or proxy forces. The Ukrainians rejected the demand.[43][46][47]

>Another disagreement was over the size of Ukraine's military. The Ukrainians wanted a peacetime army of 250,000; the Russians demanded a maximum of 85,000, which is much smaller than the standing army Ukraine had before the invasion.[43] The Russians also demanded severe limits on the amount and kinds of weaponry Ukraine could have, without any limits on Russia's military.[43]

>A third disagreement was the Russians' new demands for Ukraine to revoke several of its domestic laws, dealing with contentious aspects of Soviet-era history, such as the role of Ukrainian nationalists in World War II. The Ukrainians refused to allow their policies on historical memory to be determined by Russia.[43]

>The negotiations avoided dealing with borders and territory. This was to be discussed by Putin and Zelenskyy at a planned summit. The likely outcome, according to Foreign Affairs, was that Putin would demand to hold all the territory his army had occupied, and Zelenskyy would have refused.[43]

There was never anything even remotely close to to a peace treaty, due to insane demands made by Russia. The claim that the agreement was "just about" to be signed, only to be ruined by Boris Johnson, is literally Russian state propaganda.
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>>544614277
What am I defending? I'm a European Union citizen who doesn't want to pay for Zelensky, like the majority of us. You're a psychotic minority who jerks it to dead soldiers.
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>>544614342
Honestly, I don't understand. Do you seriously think you're saying reasonable things?

Imagine if China used a Mexican workaround to penetrate Latin America (which, by the way, isn't so unrealistic), and China began deploying an army on the Mexico-US border with long-range missiles capable of reaching Washington. That would be enormous military leverage, among other tools in China's arsenal, to actually hurt the US.

What do you think would happen? From the outside it seems fairly obvious... but perhaps this is a case of 'can't see the forest for the trees.' But, logically speaking, you'd have to be a complete idiot not to understand that.
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>>544614152
>>Europe memeflag
>>Doesn't know history of europe

Fucking nigger, RAUS
The Ukraine gave up the nukes the USSR gave them while part of the union, and they didn't want to give them up. Both russia and the jewsa both signed assurances that a) neither would invade and b)that the other would come in case one did, or both would should some foreign invader get snippity.

Not defending piggies or ziggers, just dunking on a stupid fucking nigger who can't do a 30 second Google search, or have known the history of his continent. Fucking nigger.
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>>544614126
its not

russian economy is industry, export and commodity based

it means they need diesel to make profit, and they have overcapacity for diesel, 40-50% in average

shortages of euro-5 will make roasties unhappy, they will not be able to get to boutique to buy new french dildo in time, but it will not impact anything related to production, real assets or profit making
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>>544614306
If Russia perceives NATO as a threat, why didn't they bring a pen to the meeting?
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>>544614339
Guess Ukraine will insist on strong guarantees from NATO and boots on the ground, not make that mistake again.
>>544614366
>>544614366
>Paper works selectively: for the weak, as an obligation; for the strong, as a tool.
Putin shouldn't negotiate for more paper then should he? He should defeat Ukraine militarily and impose his will right?
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>>544613827
again, you're falling for bullshit.

why would a russian speaking child, who speaks russian anyway, need to be taught russian language as part of their school curriculum?

and anyway, this is a far cry from "banning russian".
In donetsk, on the other hand, they did actually ban ukrainian langauge. Literally illegal.

So as per usual with russians, they accuse the other side of doing what they themselves actually done. and simpletons like you fall for it every time.
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>>544614421
Learn to read, moron
>>544614339
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>>544614416
Finland is in NATO now, and Sweden too lmao. That is one outcome of the SMO for sure.
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>>544614384
"The claim that Johnson sabotaged it is Russian propaganda."

This claim is refuted by the admissions of Ukrainian and Western officials themselves.

David Arakhamia, the head of the Ukrainian delegation in Istanbul, publicly stated: "When we returned from Istanbul, Boris Johnson came and said that we wouldn't sign anything with them at all, and let's just fight."

Victoria Nuland, former US Deputy Secretary of State, confirmed that the West was applying pressure. According to her, by the end of the negotiations it became clear that Putin's main condition was strict limits on the Ukrainian army, and that is exactly when "everything fell apart."
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>>544614455
>In Donetsk, on the other hand, they did actually ban ukrainian langauge. Literally illegal
Oh really, how? That arrest you if you speak Ukrainian?
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>>544608282
Strange the Russians don't collect these bodies 3km south of dobropillya considering they claim they took the city last week. ....
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>>544614480
At the moment, this is not a threat, because your resources are simply severely limited, and you literally have no means to start a conflict there. You cannot pacify Iran. This does not mean everything will stay the same. Once the conflicts with Iran and Ukraine are resolved, the next step will be escalation in those regions. As soon as the US has spare resources, they will try to redeploy their forces there. Which will inevitably lead to a corresponding military buildup. They are not safe. It's just that you are currently unable to do it. However, they are being propagandized, they are told to be ready for war and so on. This means there are plans to use this population in the same way, as soon as you are able to supply the new Ukrainians with the necessary materials.
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>>544608404
>Imagine if this was Americans troops in Iran
yeah, imagine
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>>544608418
Something about how "russians never called me a bigot". Yea I still remember that.
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>>544614452
That is, literally, the people of Europe do not want to wage war on Russia, and do not see it as an enemy or rival. But the globalists who have occupied power in Europe are driving the herd to slaughter.
Just like it was with the Ukrainians—not everyone wanted to take part in the Maidan, not everyone wanted to hop around, but who asked them then, let alone now?
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>>544613693
kek 0% growth since 2014... sanctions do indeed seem to work
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.MKTP.CD?end=2022&locations=RU&start=2002
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>>544614735
Russians never told me what pronouns to use, xir
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>>544614579
Let me write it again:
There. Was. No. Agreement. To. Be. Signed.
"Agreement" implies both parties agreeing on things. You cannot sign a disagreement, you see? Is this argument still too mentally demanding for you?
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>>544614788
Are there genuinely still pockets of copers around the internet that think the Russian economy is doing anything but growing? It's been almost 5 years of forecasted collapse and then the real numbers turning out to not just be positive, but strongly positive too.
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>>544614403
>What am I defending?
>If they feel their group is disrespected, they react with intense hostility.
your nation is just so dogshit....
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>>544608418
We're not. TZD
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>>544614950
This is not a fabrication. There is a transcript of the meeting between Baker and Gorbachev on February 9, 1990, where the U.S. Secretary of State says directly: “If we keep Germany in NATO, won’t there be a guarantee that NATO will not expand one inch to the east?” And Gorbachev confirms that this is a key question. There are memoirs of Genscher, Mitterrand, and Thatcher, who said the same thing. Yes, legally it was not formalized as a treaty. But a political promise was made. And then the West cynically violated it. Not only Putin, but also Gorbachev and Yeltsin had a negative attitude toward NATO’s approach to Russia’s borders.
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>>544614945
Well it is definitely growing when it is not contracting
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>>544614579
>Russian sources seized on these words, ignoring another part of the interview in which Arakhamia had said the Ukrainian delegation had not planned to sign anything in any case.
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>>544614979
What % Polejeet ancestry you have?
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>>544614006
Russia is the fifth largest economy in the world. It is a major economic player.
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>>544615037
Concession accepted. It took four posts
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>>544614694
>>544614765
holy shit you're coping
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>>544614990
>so mad he responded to the wrong post with an unrelated tantrum
its just that you are dogshit.... like I find it so hard to even pretend to respect you....have you no shame?
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>>544615127
You indians really do know how to fight when russia's honor is at stake
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>>544614990
Gorbachev himself said that there's no such agreement. Better get a pen next time
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>>544615166
Tap water clearly causes libtardism
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>>544615142
>they held a parade
omg, how dare they
>there’s no parade
lol Russia is losing
>there are planes
lol they’re wasting resources
>there are no planes
it’s over with Russia
What is this disease called?
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>>544615190
>Gorbachev himself said that there's no such agreement.
Gorbachev made contradictory statements about NATO expansion. Depending on the year and the format of the interview, his position shifted from accusing the West of deception to acknowledging that the question of eastward expansion in 1990 could not even legally be on the agenda.
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>>544615238
They can't advance is the thing, or stop the Ukrainian drones. That's why Putin needs Trump to help him.
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>>544615238
Why do you care so much about the russia being disrespected?
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>>544615079
>When I build things that blow up right away, that's when I've got a brilliant economy
Anon.... don´t miss special ed class next time
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>>544615208
protects from HIV though
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>>544614990
>The “two-plus-four” negotiations between West Germany and East Germany plus Britain, France, the Soviet Union, and United States produced the treaty on German reunification, signed in September 1990 in Moscow. The treaty includes no commitment not to enlarge NATO. Its Article 5 addresses the status of military forces in Berlin and former East Germany:

> As long as Soviet forces still remained in East Germany (withdrawal would not be completed until 1994), the only Western units that could deploy there were German territorial defense forces not under NATO command.

>The United States, Britain, and France would not increase their troop levels in Berlin.

>After completion of the Soviet withdrawal, German units assigned to NATO could deploy into former East Germany, but foreign forces could not.

>In sum, the treaty ruled that non-German NATO military forces could not deploy into what had been East Germany, but it contained no broad commitment that the Alliance would not enlarge.

You would think that if Russia considered the enlargement of NATO a key issue, assuming they've managed to secure a pledge from the West, they'd sure as hell insist they get in writing, right? It's almost like this is just a bullshit talking point to justify Russia's own expansionism.
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>>544615314
>Ukraine cannot establish mass production of jet-powered drones to attack Russia, partly due to an acute shortage of turbojet engines, according to Valery Borovik, founder of the drone company “First Contact”
>“Ukraine is forced to acquire these engines through complicated means: buying them through third countries or ‘extracting’ them as spare parts from other products. However, Russia has an advantage here, since it has established its own production of these engines, in addition to purchasing them from China.”

Why can’t the self-proclaimed drone superpower Ukraine produce small jet engines for drones?
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>>544615441
Russia fears that NATO may use the territory of new members to deploy bases and weapons systems. This has already happened in Romania and Poland (missile defense). Moscow considers this a violation of the verbal assurances of 1990. NATO missile defense in Europe is perceived by Moscow as undermining nuclear deterrence.

Even if technically the missile defense system cannot intercept Russia's entire arsenal, it creates an illusion of invulnerability and lowers the threshold for the West's use of force.
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NAFO loses another fight, morale is low
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>>544615467
Russia can't advance is the thing or stop the Ukrainian drones. That's why Putin needs Trump to help him.
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>>544608495
Who would fall for this shit?
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>>544615530
>How dare you have defensive weapons to defend yourself?
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>>544615410
And the claim that Russia would "completely run out of missiles" turned out to be a serious mistake by analysts studying the war at the beginning of the conflict. In 2022, Western analysts and intelligence services repeatedly predicted that Russia was about to run out of missiles and would face a crisis. All these predictions failed to come true.
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>>544615530
There were no "verbal assurances" concerning the deployment of missile defense systems. Next bullshit talking point?
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>>544608282
they were worthless as it were, so probably.
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>>544615634
By the way, the energy minister's children study in Switzerland. Funny how it works: officials steal money and flee to the West, while the poor die and cannot legally leave the country.
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>>544615646
prepare to get obliterated then
actions have consequences
especially those cooked up by sworn enemies
prepare for WAR
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>>544608418
Now? It’s been fuck ukraine and their Democrat neocon rat origin since the beginning
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>>544615760
Putin's daughter lives in the West. So does Lavarov's daughter. :)
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>>544615793
Lmao. Russia won't do shit.
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>>544615702
As for missile defense: technically, the Aegis Ashore system in Romania and Poland cannot intercept the entire Russian nuclear arsenal. But Moscow fears that over time it could be modernized and, in combination with other systems, reduce the effectiveness of a retaliatory strike. This creates an "illusion of invulnerability" and increases the West's temptation to act from a position of strength. Even if this is not the case, the very perception of the threat becomes a factor of instability.

Russia refers to them not without reason — simply because in international politics, verbal promises, even if they are not put on paper, can create expectations, and their violation breeds distrust. And distrust is the main currency in relations between Russia and NATO.
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>>544608282
>Was it worth it?
Forever remembered as "Stormtroopers" on /chug/ and their family will get a bag of Doritos
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>>544615793
Yet again you do nothing.
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>>544608495
The US never ever did anything like that, the Budapest memorandum was a simple non-binding non-legal RESOLUTION that ukraine would give up nuclear weapons that did not belong to it, or it would be an international pariah unable to conduct trade in USD $. That’s it

Absolutely nothing in the Budapest memorandum was any formal legal commitment
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>>544608418
The war was never in America's interest and even the most retarded and trooned out reddit-grade normies are realizing that THE Ukraine could never possibly win, so now they're pretending they never supported the Ukraine with rabid sentiment towards a foreign and irrelevant country like Israel. Ukraine was the lefties israel.
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>>544615832
Yermak, the right hand of Zelenskyi and the head of the president's office, left the country for Israel after getting charged with corruption in Ukraine in 2025. The ex-minister of defense left Ukraine this year to work for Italian MoD
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total zigger death
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>>544615888
>Russia refers to them not without reason — simply because in international politics
>that em dash
kek the only people defending russia anymore are niggers copy-pasting shit from an LLM all day.
How much do they pay you?
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>>544615843
Why is your Army preparing you for war then
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>>544616047
A diplomatic problem arose due to previous NATO expansions and the complete disregard for Russia's national security. The US refused to provide written guarantees excluding Ukraine from the alliance, and the rest doesn't matter because the intentions were clear.

Hmm. Stupidity or pretense? Perhaps Russia should try to do what NATO does, say, in Canada, Mexico, or even Cuba. The same argument applies, doesn't it?
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>>544615888
Did you also notice how this bot simply repeats what it wrote previously without actually addressing the argument? It cannot refute the claim (that there were no verbal assurances concerning the deployment of missile defense systems), but its whole bullshit talking point relies on it, so it proceeds as if its argument didn't get challenged at all
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>>544616041
You need to be 18 to post here.
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>>544616154
Explain how russia is a successful multiethnic country guaranteeing rights of muslims or jews as opposed of some other countries in Eastern Europe.
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>>544612618
Weren't they already neutral before the war? I sort of doubt they will be left to their own devices, the plan all along has been to reabsorb them into the russian federation. I think Prighozin had it right when he said the war justifications were all a sham and the real reason was simply about petroleum.

>>544612730
Not what was asked

>>544613496
I remember that claim being made. I also remember a little thing called the Budapest memorandum which was signed by both world powers in good faith and is the ongoing reason why Putin made extra special sure to refer to this war as a "special military operation" to try to weasel out of the wording of the memorandum.
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>>544616060
Lmao uk doesn’t have an army in any meaningful sense.
The totality of the uk military if deployed in full all at once couldn’t staff a single sector of the ukraine front for longer than a week
The uk military is completely “on paper” like all nato forces and doesn’t actually exist
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>>544616158
NATO expanded despite the verbal assurances of 1990 and Moscow’s protests.
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>>544616302
The 1991 borders are eternally gone forever and ukraine will never under any circumstance recover them no matter what it does
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>>544616364
>verbal assurances
verbal assurance from who?
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>>544615644
Russian MoD apparently
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>>544616364
This garbage output is not even worth the electricity that powers it.
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>>544615684
>please ignore the multiple dick sucking trips to NK and thr constant supply oft Iranian drones
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>>544608794
>That's how you farm Hivzzat on the Eurasian steppes.

No one asked goyim opinion Jews organize everything
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>>544616302
The Budapest memorandum means literally nothing it’s a non binding non legal resolution that’s it.

It’s just pointless lip service and none of it was binding
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>>544608856
>Christian, civilised country,

Only Jews are civilized... kek
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russians are super weak
actually, they are tough
they are tough in the way that a very gay man can "tough it up" and take an 18 inch horse dick and have no reaction (they are used to it)
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>>544616629
Lel
You jeets can't resist posting slop
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>>544608418
>americans
Says the guy that looks, talks like, and acts like he’s from Michigan
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>>544609253
Everything goes according mutual agreement
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>>544614734
>one guy died in an accident
Woah, just like how Russia lost THOUSANDS
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>>544616510
>noooooooo only ukraine can have a 42+ nation coalition dumping their collective GDP into it!! Noooooo Russsia can’t do that it’s illegal!! Noooo mommy make them stop !!

Lmao pathetic bitch
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The funny thing about this gloating is that in 2-3 years most Euro posters will be on similar videos and I presume much less prepared for it
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>>544616415
Lol, Russians said the same about Kherson
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>>544616761
No one was hiding our aid. Rusnegros still bragging about how the don't run out of missiles
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>>544614421
there is no nukes , it is pretend real

fake and gay
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down to shovels five years ago, whatever happened there...
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>>544608418
No one is on Russias side truth be told. We are just very anti Ukraine because we know the truth about it. The elite have been using that country for years to launder money amongst other things.
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>>544616744
you eat shit every week dying in accidents
can't imagine how dogshit pathetic merimutts would perform against non-civilian targets
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>>544616782
Implying there are enough left russian to fight a war
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>>544609765
Of course they did, retard.
The US and other Allied Nations provided massive financial and material support to Russia throughout WWII.

That's why it's such a funny larp when fags boast that the USSR won WW2, not the US. Yeah, Soviet soldiers reached Berlin first. But they were transported there on American trucks, eating a diet of American food, supported by American munitions, airplanes, boats, and other supported vehicles, supply lines even supported by American built trains. Oh, and their boots were provided by the British.
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>>544616716
that is real photography , check, shadows match perfectly ...

even if it was fake AI it is correct illustration and it is not fake
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>>544616510
>he thinks the drones are iranian
HAHAHAHAHA dumb trannie they haven't been for YEARS
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>>544617114
AND even the shit that wasn't provided by the Allies was still paid for with American money.

Honestly all the support we provided the soviets was one of the most retarded moves of the entire war.
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>>544617110
No, they're all dead
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>>544617114
you traded food for jews
great thinkin, mutt
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>>544608418
it's affluenza
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>>544617061
>have been using that country for years to launder money amongst other things.
Why do you care?
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>>544608282
Holy fuck that was awesome
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>>544617061
Fucking AML spastic here.
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>>544608370
>this post
>this flag
Why even use the VPN, Ivan? Russia isn't even at war with Turkey. You gonna miss Kiev and land in Istanbul instead? lol

How about you gain some self-respect and stop living as a tyrant's human resource?
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>>544608282
they are only russians why would putin care
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>>544608282
how many ukrainians?
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>>544609137
Why would we have feelings for some imaginable nafotroon propaganda

Many of us have personal experience with war. I don't know anybody who was even wounded at war let alone died. And I know 7 fellas who are on frontlines
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>>544608418
Don't trust what you see online, with the shilling being what it is.

MAGA is dead. Trump is acting entirely on residual authority from when he had support in this country.

Many Americans who don't pay attention have been fooled by Russian narratives about Ukraine, but their unifying trait is APATHY, so when you see an American giving Russia his full-throated support, that's fake as fuck.
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>>544617999
So, it's just rage baiting, rn. People are just angry af. It's what they do.
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>>544617259
Math checks out in this one
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>>544617926
It's alternating between 1-7 and 1-10.
So, 35 russian bodies, maybe 5 Ukrainians.
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>>544618131
Merz status?
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>>544616782
>2 more years
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its the jews
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>>544608282
This is the single most un-American and anti Semitic question ive ever seen in my life
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>>544618125
Huh, I didn't know Nietzsche said that.

Kinda makes me understand why people hated him.
Distrust of a personal ideal is personal humility.
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>>544618405
Still bald
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>>544617926
Probably all of them. Adding a Russian flag over a video is meaningless. The people that are gong to get caught in such a formation are going to be untrained Ukranians, not professional soldiers.
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>>544618846
Are you fucking retarded? You must be fucking retarded.
Fucking retard.
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>>544618846
Going by the jeet spam in this bread they are russian
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The fate of ALL Communists regardless of what nation you belong to.
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>>544616456
The West regards the post-Soviet space as a buffer zone in its confrontation with Russia.
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>>544618542
2026. Time to sum up the Maidan 2014:

– 3 million dead from the Armed Forces of Ukraine
– 10 million Ukrainians have left the country
– No Crimea
– No Luhansk Oblast
– No Donetsk Oblast
– Disruptions with electricity, water, and basic foodstuffs
– No elections in the country
– Colossal growth of state debt, which has reached a historic high of $241 billion and continues to grow
– Large-scale mining of territories. Ukraine has become the most mined country, and demining will take years
– Crisis of the healthcare system and social disablement
– The country’s industrial potential has been completely destroyed

Fucking great, how did all that jumping work out???
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>>544619028
desperate cope from jeet lovers
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>>544608282
I'd like to know how they are operating. All the videos ever posted they just show slavs(both sides) out in the open being slaughtered or the aftermath, with zero military strategy on display, the only "strategy" being kill as many slavs as possible. Contrast this with videos of the US military operating; squads, troops, objectives, operations, patrols, units, commands, orders, aka fucking military operating like a military.
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>>544609137
Who shot russian speaker protesters after the maidan ?
Who burnt russian protester alive in Odessa ?
Who bombed donbass civilians for 8 years because they protested the maidan Ukraine ?
Who shot down MH17 and tried to blame russians ?
Who broke Minsk 1 and Minsk 2 deals ?
Who ditched the Istanbul deal listening to Boris Jhonson ?
Who refuse 2022 referundum results ?
Who tried to destroy ZNPP out of spite afterwards ?
Who constanly false flag europe to start WW3 ?
Who invaded Kursk and slay civilians there ?
Who sabotage Trump peace effort ?
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>>544619800
Putin. That was all putin
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>34 posts
zamn imagine seething this hard. 100% not a russian btw not even ruskies believe their own lies to defend it so much
a serbian or some other wannabe slav from some shithole
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>>544619849
Zelensky got 79% because he promised to follow Minks agreements. Now he venerate UPA collaborators as national heroes.
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>>544616552
The renunciation of nuclear weapons implied maintaining non-alignment, which was confirmed by the political commitments undertaken by Ukraine within the same process. By declaring a course toward NATO membership, Ukraine violated this provision. One of the key obligations of a state pursuing a policy of permanent neutrality is the refusal to participate in war, and in peacetime, non-accession to military blocs.
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>>544608370
Kek.
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>>544608404
Please stop, I need to steel myself for No Nut November.
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>>544611434
>Buzzword buzzword buzzword more buzzwords.
Buzzword
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>544619800
Show flag, nigger
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>>544616875
No victories on the Zaporozhye front.
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>>544611434
>Buzzword buzzword buzzword more buzzwords.
Ive been enjoying deploying this image for years now, every city that gets reclaimed by Russia has the same sequence in the jewed western media.
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>>544608370
What a pathetic kikeslave.
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>>544620582
How many cities has R*ssia captured this year? Cities, not villages with a pre-war population of two babushkas
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>>544618779
No, it means your ideals are shit and thusbeit are you.
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>>544621127
>How many cities has R*ssia captured this year? Cities, not villages with a pre-war population of two babushkas
So if Russia is so weak and you are so bold, please by all means, escalate the war. Go nuclear if you want, but dont expect me to send my blood for your jewish harvest.
You all talk a big game and shit all over the subhuman "idiot" Russkies but thats all you do is flap your lips in the breeze. A lot of your type of a person, a loud mouth, volunteered early on to 'beat those Russians' and show them the "what for" in the trenches and they all came back in a body bag or came back as soon as they could after seeing the front.
If you want Russian blood so bad and they suck so hard at war, you should be typing that message from the front.
But you wont.
For all the big-talk... but in the end, it is far more likely that EU will fall to Russia than defeat it.
Sad to see the White Men of the West fight each other in jewish harvests while the shysters wring their hands.



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