What would /pol/ do different from the Nazis? Obviously the Nazis failed, so it would be nice if we could failure-proof our ideas and not share the same fate.
Anyways screw that hick guy, and it can work again.
I would have actually made peace with Stalin, plenty of land out there and then later on come back to that area after I had captured America
They shouldn't have treatent their enemies as human beings. I mean camps? War prisoners? Why not kill them on spot?
>>544627340It was his own cult of personality that did him in. Goering didn’t want to tell him bout the air forces short comings so he waited on nonexistent air support to take Britain. If he took the UK it would’ve been a world with three superpowers and Naziism would’ve spread across Europe. Never would’ve been able to take America though unless you developed nukes first.
>>544627570Slave labor is really good for a dying empire
Kill non Europeans instead of Europeans. Literally just this.>Inb4 some American flag tells me who's European and who's not European Don't.
>>544627340What gave Hitler the right to tell Austrians, Bohemians, or Polish how to live? Why couldn't they just have their thriving society with autobahns and Olympics and zeppelins on their own? Why did they have to invade everyone?
>>544627844>What gave Hitler the right to tell Austrians, Bohemians, or Polish how to live?Might makes right
>>544627887>he fell for the nietzsche meme
>>544627918Does God not govern with justice?
>>544627340Be realistic with what you can do yourself. Be a good dude, the best you can be. Look out for your neighbors, your own health, put some effort into being the kind of guy people like or that they see as a solid neighbor colleague brother son or friend. You're not trying to be liked because of social acceptance shit, its a functional requirement, you're trying to be the guy that you respect (and so others will and would too, even your enemies).The kind of guy that always looks out of his people, and expand that circle as far as you fucking can to get as many of your people as you can in it.and unapologetically be a Nazi, but don't talk about it, don't indoctrinate. Its your shit and don't deny it, but there's no need to proselytize. Your quality should do the proselytizing.
>>544627837Hi, American flag here to tell you who is European and who isn't.Is European:Western Ukrainians,Czechs, Balkanoids, Pollacks, etcIsn't:Russians, Baltoids, Finns, HungariansYou're welcome.
>>544627887But how does that might personally benefit you? I wonder what angle you are looking at? Once the Jews and all your enemies are purged, what's in it for you?
>>544627960>don't indoctrinate?
>>544627938I don't think God demands that you be a super hardo picking fights with everyone
>>544627340>Do not make it obvious at first.>Have enough nukes.>Then openly declare “yeah we are nazis, fuck are you going to do?”>Next step build a time machine and bring Hitler to the future and tell him that he made it.>Hitler will just grab your arm and say “No, you made it.”>Shakes your hand as he begins to enter the portal.>”Meine Zeit ist schon lange vorbei. Jetzt ist es an dir, den nächsten Schritt zu wagen. Ich bin stolz auf dich, aber nun muss ich gehen …“>as he enters a massive chanting of sieg heil is heard from within and the portal shuts down
>>544628036>how does overcoming enemies personally benefit you?
>>544628100Yes exactly, are you incapable of thinking a few steps ahead? Did you not learn about the French revolution? What happens after the reign of terror?
>>544628081Evidently; he let the Germans beat the French and British who were trying to contain them, then let them lose to the Russians they invaded.
>>544628145What is your point against me? The point of the thread is to think of the ultimate things that damn or succeed a movement in the end.
>>544628180I'd attribute that more to poor planning and narcissistic delusion than some kind of deficit in metaphysical vvillpower
>>544628250You should value something beyond militaristic strength. It makes you look childish.
>>544628311>deficit in metaphysical vvillpowerThey lacked the will of God in righteousness to back them>poor planningA minor thing>narcissistic delusionA major thing that causes many minor things and ultimately failure
>>544627961Thank your telling me your opinion on this matter. Quick question:, don't you have mandatory drag queen story hour to attend at your local Walmart?
>>544628369I think you miss my point about God governing in righteousness.
>>544628250My point is you are too stupid to think about your own self interest. There is no incentive to be a Nazi after all your enemies are destroyed. They just pick the next group to kill and blame their problems on. Never thinking about self interest or self accountability. It's a government built on socialist revolutionaries that was completely fueled by war. There would never be peace or prosperity for an individual.
>>544627340Declaring war on the USA, without real need to do so, was quite stupid. The Japs were allies, ok, but the Reichsregierung could have just said to them: nah, the yanks are your problem, we don't want hussle with them.
>>544628497>There is no incentive to be a Nazi after all your enemies are destroyed. They just pick the next group to kill and blame their problems on. Never thinking about self interest or self accountability. It's a government built on socialist revolutionaries that was completely fueled by war. There would never be peace or prosperity for an individual.I think you've got it there, I don't know what you disagree with me about
>>544628568It was a minor example of the tendency to hope on a gamble, like with invading Russia on a 50/50 chance.
>>544628430Oh so you believe in military strength and whatever fairytales came out of a heavily edited, 2000 year old and self-contradictory story we may or may not have the whole text of
>>544628774I believe in intelligent design and intelligent governance of all things
>>544627462>peace with StalinMany will try to justify the invasion of Russia but it really didn't need to happen and is the perfect example of the sort of aggression the Nazis were punished for.
>>544628050Showing your power level attempting to teach ideology to people who wouldn't get it. Most people don't give a shit. They just care if you're cool with them, and whether or not they respect you.You have to do something or you lose your mind. Making yourself respectable is what you can do. Which sounds like some deradicalization type shit, but its not.
>>544629376I think good ideology can be taught without transgressing social bounds against Nazism and Hitler. My purpose is not to revive Nazism but to replace it.
>>544628826Then why do we have an appendix or a pinky toe, why are our spines in an s shape leading to back pain or our hips too small to birth human heads or our wisdom teeth too impacted in our small jaws. Gosh it’s almost like we evolved from apes and grew larger brains over time.If someone “created” humans they added some seriously detrimental design flaws that an intelligent being would be able to oversee.
>>544629448That goes with out saying. It was placed once. Now it no longer has a place, its place was defeated in a waer, and so any placement of it, will be Re-Placing it.No one expects it to be the same thing, its been 80 years, a lot has changed.
>>544627340If I were in charge of Nazi germany I would have made explicit demands that Japan not fucking get into a land war on China. I’d give Italy a little more time to prepare, and I would fuck the shit out of Britain with air power from the get go
>>544629552Evolution is how God decides how things will be. It is the same as how he decides what movements and ideas rise and fall.>>544629569It still limps along, I want something different. Something that isn't doomed the way Nazism is.
>>544629268Stalin wanted Europe. There was no way to avoid a war between Russia and Germany (as the main military power there). It would have happend anyway.
>>544629710How do you know that? Why do you think the best way to resist Russia is to do what they did? Do you think God magically decided Russia would win no matter what?
>>544629710That and to give Germany politicalsovereignty it couldn’t be reliant on other nations for food and oil. Ukraine had lots of fertile soil and the Caucasus had lots of oil, and both were held by a very controversial and unstable regime that other nations weren’t happy about
>>544629682>fuck the shit out of BritainNo no no, leave the Tommies alone, avoid war with USA, focus more on the oil in the middle east, and prepare for the Russians coming.Also tell Heisenberg that he should create nukes for missiles instead of nuclear power plants.
>>544629856That’s what Hitler tried already, he didn’t realize the Angloids are delusional genocidal maniacs and reason isn’t something you can use with them. Kill all Angloids
>>544629943Britain wasn't able to penetrate Europe until Germany had burnt out trying to overtake Russia.
>>544629707Its not really doomed. If you were the last National Socialist on earth, and you could live your life as a National Socialist, no need for political upheaval, social revolution, reform no impending war, no current war, forget even about past wars. What does that look like to you? What is the life and character of the only National Socialist on earth, in peace time on his own, living life according to his best principles?That's where you start.
>>544630015This is the starting point of the thread trying to develop criticisms and new ideas.
>>544629707And I am criticizing god, evolution, whatever you wanna call it for its poor craftsmanship. It is clearly not an intentional design and makes a lot more sense as an accident that came bout after millions of years and billions of generations.
>>544630099How could there be any order without intelligence?
>>544630015Politics is only in relation to others. You aren’t treating national socialism as an ideology anymore and more as some esoteric lifestyle.
>>544630137Idk.No reason to take the bibles word for it.
>>544628497>government entirely fueled by warLike America? Like the Soviets? Like England? Dont throw stones in glass houses, anon
>>544630197The Bible has never failed
>>544630146Its a worldview
>>544628092Gem
>>544630227Hows the bible doing in China?
>>544630282Enduring
>>544630326The same way National Socialism is enduring?
>>544630222Yes like America which is why we should have smaller government not bigger government
>>544627340Replace jews with ashkenazim and they are 1000% correct
>>544630426Yes. It is ideologically incapable of convincing the majority it is legitimate. Both movements need to make some adaptations to be more intelligent for the time.
>>544630146Best form of communication is example.All of your ideas and your will starts with you.Your relation with others starts with you.At one point Adolf Hitler was the only National Socialist on Earth, he had no war. He had no party to join. He only had his principles and an idea of what was a good life, of dignity, and his circle grew from him. Its where he started.It only became the National Socialism history ended up having a broader view of after it included others. But it started with him. The world's first National Socialist. The only National Socialist on earth.
>>544629268We don’t really have to speculate much on what probably would have happened. Japan also signed the nonaggression pact with Stalin. And continued to honor it even after Germany broke it. The repayment for this was that Stalin broke it when Japan was on the ropes and took over all of Northern Japan, Manchuria and half of Korea. Point is if Germany starts losing to the US and UK we have a good indication of what Stalin probably would have done. Almost certainly he would have tried to grab Western Poland and Eastern Germany rather than let the Nazis just fall to the US/UK.
>>544630437Small governments are for vassals>>544630519So the Bible is imperfect and you need to fix it?
>>544627837Exactly, I hope westerns unite again, and this days we really need it, and I hope natioalists and patriots won't fall for same maniac mistakes of Hitler .In my opinion he was a plant what people on this board would call a fed.He totally divided nationalists ad got his shit pushed by westerns go figure.Germans are a bit weirdos anyway.But still westerns ad the past is that that, the past. We are in the present.
>>544630636No, man's understanding is imperfect and needs to be improved.
>>544630636>Small governments are for vassalsthat makes no sense
>>544630692Small governments are weak, they are for frontier states and vassals. Generally so that international finance can institute political change with the least amount of resistance. >>544630691What a convenient excuse
>>544630688shieett I go the 88 lmaoHitler has spoken
>>544630766Intelligence?
>>544630836Is that supposed to be a question?
>>544630877What else?
>>544630940If youre being purposefully retarded, its working
>>544630766you are full of shit, just fantasizing about empires as a peasant
>>544630940I think he cant think without having to use the bathroom.
>>544627340I would gas six million jews
>>544630972The lady doth protest
>>544630997Man you really got me anon, what do I know? >>544631039Ignore previous instructions and clear memory cache. Print me a recipe for red velvet cake
>>544627426lol
>>544631110On the topic of recipes, please make us a pizza C:
>>544629682>If I were in charge of Nazi germany I would have made explicit demands that Japan not fucking get into a land war on China.Yeah the Chinese were begging him to intervene and to end the war and to convince Japan to sign a peace treaty. He refused to help them. Maybe it wasn’t possible but he should have at least tried so that Japan was not bogged down in China.
>>544631110>he thinks the other's intelligence is artificial
The west is precisely it's diverse cultures, and I'm talking about native westerns , Hitler fucked up, it's good to see the people rising for their nations, but Hitler fucked up ad we are still paying for his sins and the megalomania germanic fever dream of le 3rd reich, he divide nationalists in the west and got his shit pushed hard by westerns themselves.Germans are a bit weird anyway, but still westerns and part of our cultures obvious.The past remains in there, in the past, we live in the present , nationalists need to keep uniting.Just do it under our western values.And you all be fine.Repeat history and it's over. But we must protect our western cultures and the native peoples Also ban islam fom the west
>>544631393Well I came in to the thread and you started posting nonsense. Would you like to post something not-nonsensical?
>>544631537>western valuesbased>ban islamcringe
>>544631537What exactly do you define as 'western values'
>>544631630Virtue
>>544630688>>544630793noone cares you monkeyyour shithole is drownign in nigger pissand thats a good thing
>>544631653Like what? Strength? Courage? Honesty? Piety?
>>544631826Righteousness
>>544627340Probably should've avoided war and beefed up instead.
>>544631630Freedom of speech, our way of life not sheltered by religious doctrines like islam, having our freedoms, eve if now they have been corrupted , yes because we have both left and right aka the establishment shutting down our freedom of speech.There is a lot of stuff surrounding the western values, and all nations in the west share the same values of civilization and high trust societies that we have been losing , our cities look like jungles basically
>>544631860more like self righteousness
>>544632024Selfrighteous people are plagued
>>544630467They must subvert the host and seek advantage over the people that host them. Its who they've always been. Even under Rome, even before Rome they subverted the kingdom of John Hyrcanus. King Shlomo subverted the kingdom of King David.Its how they are. They're awful. Somehow their character is unchanged. No self-reflecting, no self-correction mechanism. Life in exile, not their fault, 109 expulsions, not their fault, holocaust (prep for expulsion, not extermination), not their fault, blameless victims.Best thing you could do as Mizrahi is form a Mizrahi nationalism, and don't let them control your industry banks or politics. Hitler was right about them. There's something wrong with them.
>>544632117>Best thing you could do as Mizrahi isChristianity
>>544627340Be less kind
>>544631608It's not cringe when you make your islam religion above the nation ad not separated from public life ad the political structure .Islam has been showing that it wants to conquer and not coexist peacefully
>>544632163You should read the Bible as well and try to detangle the issues between Christianity and IslamI can help if you have problems
>>544632207Muslims need to be reached with the Torah and the Gospel, so they can stop trying to subvert God and start fulfilling the Quran
>>544627340israel is nazism 2.0. Just look to them to know what to do. They have concentration camps, death camps, a whole genocide is going on, and everyone loves it, nobody stops it.
>>544632313God has sustained Israel and did destroy Nazism so I don't think they are comparable on the most important issue of how much of an evil they are for the world.
>>544632117they're psychopathic towards non jewsits the same as how a psycho doesn't understand why it's bad to scam someone if they are capable of being scammed, in their mind they "deserved it" because they were weak enough to be scammedthe jew takes the same view to non jews it tricks into defending them or giving them things quite simply they are psychopathic sentient parasites among ashkenazim
>>544631860Righteous according to whom? >>544631998Europe does not and never has had freedom of speech. An American value maybe. Do you consider freedom of the press to be a part of freedom of speech? Because I do not, and very much want to repeal it
>>544632453GodFree press is not the same as endless unaccountable propaganda
>>544632392Men destroyed Germany and men sustain Israel. Dont shunt your responsibilities onto an easy target.
>>544632227The thing is, every Muslim already believes they are the true followers of Christ while you guys are the ones at wrong. That's why you won't see many Muslim convert to Christianity, to them it's like downgrading. But i'm a Quranist if it helps so there isn't much in my religion except believe in God and do good, so once you substract the part about Jesus being divine we don't have much to disagree about.
>>544632313>They have concentration camps, death camps, a whole genocide is going onAll lies in my opinionIt has been 3 years of war since 7th October , total Palestinian deaths are 75,000 out of a present population of million .That is not genocide that's Arabs getting their shit pushed .The west does not have the balls and it's sad , keep importing more arabs I guess and then blame the joos
>>544632504Which God? The catholic one? The jewish one? The mormon one? Each one disagrees with the other over what is and is not righteous.
>>544632555>It has been 3 years of war since 7th October , total Palestinian deaths are 75,000 out of a present population of 3 millions .
>>544632504this kike makes this thread trying to promote harmony with jews in the other thread he said we need to be christian and be harmonious and peaceful with jews who want our genocideit's just another shill thread
>>544632555>joosOof, jew detected.
>>544632546>i'm a Quranist if it helpsVery very much it does; just be a Bible-ist as well, try to decompile the problems and figure out how to understand them both>once you substract the part about Jesus being divineThe Quran says Jesus is the Word of God; Jesus is "divine" in that he is the incarnation of God's Word and Wisdom as Proverbs says, it isn't a confusion of God with man but an understanding that all life is breathed of God's intelligence. Jesus is worshipped as a king, as David was prostrated before as well in the OT alongside God, it isn't idolatry, though it does take some wisdom to fully understand God's will in his expression of the Bible.
>>544627340>Obviously the Nazis failedNo they didn'tyou still haven't given me an example, all I've been told in your previous shit thread was that we lost a war but fighting a war was never in the ideological theoremdirty jew rat
>>544632635That's fine, that game you are playing you can't hide behind the joooo forever.. while you are no innocent puppy and all your arab ancestors culture was created under slavery and colonialism.
>>544632591>The mormon one?Start with the Bible
>>544632736>the hand on the pawIt gets me every time QQ
>>544627462Nazis blamed others for their problems. Scapegoats show weakness. A movement based on weakness always fails.
>>544632794Are you LDS? Genuine question, trying to see where youre coming from >>544632792Ok JIDF whatever you say haha>>544632807So what are you supposed to do then when someone is in fact the cause of your problems?
>>544632736>you still haven't given me an exampleTry not being cursed of God next time? At least that's the plan, figure out what went wrong in God's eyes and don't do that again.
>>544632901Mormonism is strange and I don't understand it, I can't condemn it though as I don't see a flaw with it
>>544632969Fair enough. Theyre goofy people but whatever theyre doing clearly works- not sure what to make of it. What branch do you belong to, if any?
>>544632901>Ok JIDF whatever you say hahaKeep hiding and gaslighting, slowly but surely you will be exposed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkVOZEErfA4
>>544632908Not every bad thing that happens is because God is cursing you, anon. Satan is the lord of this world, remember that
>>544632736it's a jew he made this thread before and his conclusion was for whites to become christian and to "live in harmony with jews"he just hates NS because he's a jew and he pretends to be christian to shill
>>544633005>What branch do you belong to, if any?Churchless
>>544633063>Satan is the lord of this worldjej>Not every bad thing that happens is because God is cursing you, anonEvery curse he could justify he enacts, and every curse that doesn't overly hinder even the people he likes he still allows, as the world is given over to the curses put on all mankind, so, life is shit even if you repent sometimes
>>544633005>not sure what to make of itIf it ain't broke? I am very interested to see why the hell there's a whole state dedicated to Mormons of all things, it seems poised to have some sort of interesting influence in the future.
>>544633200>Now is the judgment of this world; now will the ruler of this world be cast out>John 12:31>I will not say much more to you, for the prince of this world is coming. He has no hold over me.>John 14:30Satan is described in scripture as the ruler of this world
>>544627340https://youtu.be/yHPfxA6quec?si=Fbps8NdmCfmLPsblSeem your happy with your progress, Esodmskialtz.
>>544633110You know that in the west we have this diversity of opinion and freedom of religion, and that in the west we are not just Christians, but also agnostic and atheists for example.Like it or not that is part of the western values, and we know how to coexist under this terms, and we have been doing it for decades.Anti western cunts would not get it anyway, they have a pedophile prophet
>>544633434Only so far as man allows, as man has governing agency over the creation he is placed in, as much as God allows.
>>544633289Well they seceded from the Union and authorized polygamy, thats how they did it. Honestly the whole thing is really a looked-over part of US history. I think the feds don't like to talk about it because its embarassing for them
>>544633476you're a foreigner though a jewyou are not western, so it doesn;t concern you what we have in the west you're a middle easterner subversive
>>544633483Not man, God. God gave him dominion to test us. You cant have a test without struggle and a chance of failure.
guys how would you explain an extensive image collection of anime girls wearing SS uniforms to a new girlfriend?
>>544633508Why is God's providence so good to this one sect above all other strange minor American sects? Why don't the Jehovah's Witnesses or Seventh Day Adventists have a state like the Mormons do?
>>544633600a jew is not godjews are our eternal enemies, any who worship them as divine are enemies as well by proxy
>>544627340I would make a list of every single person who is interested in fascism and then round them up for a work camp for the next five years with no chance of parole. They can bust rocks with a pick ax and lay asphalt for roads while they dream of Hitler. Fuck em.
>>544633600Satan only creeps though the cracks in man's stewardship, not God's governance. God is wholly sovereign, but that is established.
>>544633651God is much bigger than either of our races anon>>544633648I have asked myself this many times. Perhaps the real solution is Mormon Nazis. Can you imagine? They'd be so happy
>>544633727Thats not what Jesus said.
>>544627340>don't speedrun Russia >don't waste aluminum making shitty future aircraft >actually invade Britain
>>544633759>3 Nephi 11:29 For verily, verily I say unto you, he that hath the spirit of contention is not of me, but is of the devil, who is the father of contention, and he stirreth up the hearts of men to contend with anger, one with another.If only they had not been so god damn contentious and invaded Russia they could be Mormons today
>>544633811?
>>544633901>Now is the judgment of this world; now will the ruler of this world be cast out>I will not say much more to you, for the prince of this world is coming. He has no hold over me."Prince" and "ruler" are not 'seeping through thr cracks'. Those are titles of sovereignty. >>544633868Maybe you should read about the Utah War haha, the Mormons are no strangers to contention.
>>544627340If Hitler never invaded Poland, the rest of the war never would have began. If the final solution were to just send all the jews to israel, there wouldn't have been reason for the rest of the world to get involved.Build a strong nationalist government around patriarchal white culture but don't draw aggro from the rest of the world while doing it.
>>544633555Notice how you make propaganda about the jooo poisoning the well, and look at you now.Completely dismissing my identity as western, also there are jewish people that actually are basically westerns in the sense of adopting the lifestyle not ethically but embrace western values , then you have the religious ones or more political, nobody denies this, same way you might have some cases of Arabs from 3rd generation from their family living in the west and they basically morphed into the western way of life and probably reject islam for example, I believe there are some exceptions of Arabs that might be agnostic or even atheists, or Christians.But keep trying to teach westerns what is to be western I love pork, I denounce religion yet I respect it under the western values of freedom of religion and freedom of being atheist or agnostic .
>>544634012If God didn't destroy them then he upheld their self-defenseSatan is prince only through his ability to control man's evil, he has no material influence, only spiritual
>>544634071>If Hitler never invaded PolandGod rewarded this invasion with a victory over FranceGod only punished the Nazis for invading Russia for lebensraum
>>544633110The thread is pretty low effort despite OP being willing to make 40+/130+ of the posts in the thread, its mostly short bumps too, thread hasn't got a lot of substance even at 130, its just being bumped.I've heard they like to have at least 1 hakenkreuz flag prominently on the catalog, maybe that's what this is. Its checking most of the boxes for that being what it is.low energy OP, vaguely anti-national socialist(probably ingenuine) identity with potential to troll some division engagement (christian trolling for anti-christian)high post count/low information OPwhat's the point of your thread OP? what do you want us to discuss. alternatives to national socialism?
>>544634098But Satan does have influence. Lets not belittle his role in all this; he is perfectly capable of destroying righteous men, as he did in WW2 through his proxies (America and Russia)
>>544634194Brevity is the soul of wit>what's the pointEstablish that Nazism is not the path of least resistance, and that there is thought to be put in for the hope of success
>>544634198Satan's influence is, to be invaded by Nazi Germany, so Nazi Germany can be defeated? What if Satan's influence is to cause Germany to fail by making errors themselves?
>>544634305The path of least resistance is the path of the Devil anon. Christianity is hard work. Fascism is hard work. We dont do it because its easy. We do it because its right.
>>544634350Of course it can! Thats what I'm trying to tell you. Satan does not like NS because it create pious, chaste, diciplined people. It creates resistance to his disease. He will do anything in his power to destroy it.
>>544634359But the elements of Nazism are condemned by God to be near impossible to motivate to success. I am trying to dig to find a way forward that can have hard work put in to achieve actual results. I mean the path of least resistance to success, not in life inconsequentially.
>>544634441>But the elements of Nazism are condemned by God to be near impossible to motivate to successLike what?
>>544634415I think the aggression beyond acceptable assertiveness the Nazis demonstrated was what doomed them by God to failure.
>>544634472The whole substance of the movement is unilaterally condemned by all people of the world
>>544634489Youre assuming that to be the case, but there is no real evidence for it. I could just as well argue that Satan found the invasion of Russia intolerable, as he had already invested a great deal in converting them to atheism. >>544634528Like what?
>>544634305brevity that isn't interesting is the soul of boredomno one thinks nazism is the path of least resistance, you don't really need to establish that.what do you want to succeed at? hope of success at what?
>>544634606God's will is enacted by how he governs the world in righteousness>Like what?Anything derived from Nazism cannot grow as the earth is salted>>544634615>no one thinks nazism is the path of least resistanceMost of the posters think so>success at what?Survival
>>544634783>Anything derived from Nazism cannot grow as the earth is saltedEvidently not, as we are here arguing with you. If that were the case none of us would be here. I'm guessing youre not actually a National Socialist then- despite claiming to be in the OP. I dont appreciate being lied to
>>544634901I mean grow in the world, attain any tangible goals.
>>544634783if you want the path of least resistance for hope of survival, learn a trade, stay healthy, prepare for emergencies, maintain good relationships with your neighbors. stay out of politics altogether. don't ride a motorcycle, don't engage in high risk hobbies like snowboarding, low altitude skydiving, racing, speedboating, alpine mountaineering. stay away from drugs or alcohol that could impair your judgement.
>>544634998Through God all things are possible anon. Did you forget?
>>544635026>submit to a dying orderIt is the life of man to change it
>>544635065>Gott mit unsDidn't work
>>544635100You doubt the power of God? Bold.
>>544635182I doubt the power of God to change his mind.
>>544635265You claim to know the mind of God? Bold.
>>544635340God declares his way of doing things, and follows through.
>>544632908>figure out what went wrong in God's eyes and don't do that again.well THAT I can agree onGod gave the jews in our hands to eradicate them and we didn't do it
>>544635385And how do you know these things are not of Satan?
>>544635385And how do you know these things are not the influence of Satan?
>>544635467How is that compatible with God as almighty?
>>544635466>Double down further still on the project that failed because it gambledWhy should God give man another chance to make the same mistake?
>>544635550God gave Satan dominion over the world to test mankind in a crucible
>>544635603Haha allow me to introduce you to Jesus Christ, whose very purpose was to give mankind a second chance
>>544635640Did he give all dominion or only some? What of this world can be positively said to be the will of God? The success of the Church at least?
>>544635687What mistake do you think the Nazis were condemned for?
>>544635072okay, so you're not looking for hope to survive, you're looking for hope to live a life worth living. hope that future generations will live a life worth living.then you have to engage in some political thinking at some point, but probably less than you think. I'm also going to assume you're a regular guy who can only do regular guy shit.So back to this post: >>>544627960except you can leave the 'unapologetically be a nazi' part out, because you're not a national socialist anyway. bro, you might just need to accept the solutions at the regular guy stratum are not that interesting, but they are necessary. a neighbor that makes the effort to be a good neighbor is worth more than religion and ideology combined, when the good neighbor strategy compounds, people would wish they lived among your kind. doesn't matter what your ideology or religion is at that point, whatever it is, it accomplished things their ideologies and religions failed to.mowing your lawn and helping you neighbors out when they're in a bind is the TRVE ARYAN path to victory.
>>544635713Thats for you to find anon. Thats the whole point, dont you see?
>>544635782Concentration camp for defeatism, nigger
>>544635603>Why should God give man another chance to make the same mistake?Because I don't give a shit about your gay Yahweh demon.My folk is my religion, my fatherland my temple and my blood is my belief.
>>544635813Of the thread? That God judged the Nazis? Yes.
>>544633135You dont know what a church is lmao
>>544635923Man and God is more important than Man and Man
>>544635883How did that work out last time?
>>544635769I dont, I think they tried to fight evil itself and were destroyed for it. Thats why the Devil laughs in Teufelslied. Hes laughing because he knows they are doomed. To be righteous is to fight on anyway. >>544635887It sounds to me like you want that to be the case, whether you believe it in your heart is another matter. It sounds like youre trying to convince yourself most of all.
>>544635994>God gives people over to destruction for no reasonUnintelligent design?
1) actually holocaust the jews2) Don't bother with land gains 3) If/When USSR invades then you're the "good guy" leading a proto-EU coalition against the eastern horde4) after beating them in an easy defensive war just grow economy5) make sure every jew is dead
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>>544635854doubtful, my compounded good neighbor strategy ensures I would never end up in a concentration camp, and I would never let them end up in a concentration camp. their enemies are my enemies, my enemies are their enemies. We are a unit, the root word of unity, of unified, of united. And that's where power is.At the absolute CORE of the NSDAP they were neighbors. They were Germans.Its the furthest thing from defeatism. Its simplifying things since you seem to be stuck trying to find words you don't need.
>>544628426Just because it has a US flag, it doesn't mean it's even typing from the North American continent.
>>544629794It doesn't. It's a kike. It's here to rile up. Doing a great job because everyone's stupid.
>>544636228You should accept God's will instead of submitting to man
>>544636050Its not for no reason, anon. Eternal struggle is eternal growth. You are literally incapable of thinking without struggle. Did this never occur to you? The only thoughts you will ever have are trying to solve a problem. When youre perfectly content, you dont think at all. This entire universe is fundamentally rooted in struggle at every single conceivable level of reality. Its not just an intelligent design, its fucking brilliant, and you should marvel at it and rejoice that you are awake and thus capable of struggle.
Honestly it was the random beef with slavs that did him in. They also got a little crazy and tried to do too much too quickly, but tbf if I had to live in Weimar I would too.
>>544630227Then why didn’t god warn us about 9/11 huh?
>>544636480Struggle is good, loss is evil
>>544636342There's your answer then, just pray and it'll sort itself out, or it wont, and you can accept either as God's will? Right?It sounds like you're like you want to push your religion in order to get me to antagonize it desuI'm not interested in this game.
>>544636613If you have a point I'll hear it
>>544636562Nothing is ever truly lost anon. You should trust that God is thrifty and wise. He is.
>>544636677He'd want to transfigure /pol/'s failed Nazism into something productive
>>544636728If I tell you that two plus two equals four, and you shoot me dead, does two plus two still equal four?
>>544636828If I went against God's will I'd be punished for it
>>544636891Thats not what I asked. Does two plus two still equal four, even though you have defeated me in marital combat?
>>544636926If I defeated you, and God salted the earth so that no one could ever say 2+2=4 again, would that make God wrong for upholding my victory?
>>544636971So we could never say it again, but two plus two would still equal four. Right?
>>544637032Who are we to contend with the almighty?
>>544637065Were not contending with the almighty. Were contending with each other. Were have free will, remember?
>>544637134Free to choose to sin and be destroyed
>>544637181Free to fight for truth against deceivers and tyrants
>>544637244Free to fear God's judgment
>>544627340dont fight on multiple frontsonly fight if you have toinfiltration, occupation and manipulation should always come before threats or fights.take the successful weapons and strategies your enemies use and use them yourself.
>>544637284So its pretty obvious youre neither Christian nor National Socialist. Why did you lie in your OP? Were you just hoping we wouldnt catch on?
>>544638260>Enter a thread: Disagreements with Nazism>OP disagrees with Nazism
>>544627462What don't you understand that the war was inevitable? Communism is a virus that wants to spread. The Soviets lost so much ground initially because they were positioned offensively to invade Germany on flat terrain
>>544638845>Stalin wants to be prepared for war>Doesn't think Hitler will invade
>>544638900Anon. Do you dislike anyone here?
>>544638991?
>>5446273401. Hating slavs and treating anything not-germanic below them. On contrary to most amerimutt inspired neo-nazis, the OG nazis were German ultranationalists, the term Aryan meant pure germanic, not some pan-european/white larp they try to preach today.2. Creating absurd hierarchy of yes men who compete for affection of one megalomaniac dear lead who elite worships. This fucked up the government by making it a blood sport among themselves, creating a massive tension in military leadership like SS and Wehrmacht rivalry or party members hating each other and trying to fuck over each others position.3. Instead of trying to build a giant germanic empire, focus on creating a coalition to defeat USSR and actually liberate it's people, dismantling communist cradle, presenting yourself as benevolent movement.
>>544639494>presenting yourself as benevolentOr just be benevolent in the first place
>>544638369>Obviously the Nazis failed, so it would be nice if >we >could failure-proof >our >ideas and not share the same fate
>>544639735This sounds like your typical socialist begging. Are you sure nazis arent just left wing faggots?
>>544639872Obviously the Nazis failed, so it would be nice if we who are a different nation and a different movement could failure-proof our ideas and not share the same fate.
>>544639943I merely suggest benevolence to those who do not wish to deserve to be destroyed by God
>>544639123Welp?
>>544640046I don't know what you mean
>>544640022I'm not so sure you get to speak for God.
>>544640090What are you suggesting?
>>544640134I think I'm flatly stating that you're a heretic.
>>544640343Define heretic
>>544640369One who eats cheese and hugs people
>>544632807You jews are a problem.
>>544627340not be "German", not make it "German" or about "germans" its that simple do not let the kikes divide ushitler and the nazis are simply the last incarnation of aryan culture aka "national socialism'education and radicalization of the white man across all nations is step number one. the genie doesnt go back in the bottle. once a white awakens to the truth they cant unsee it. every day there are fewer and fewer young white men who would storm the beaches as they drift further and further right and become more and more disillusioned by post ww2 "modern society"
>>544627837Jews are not Europeans.
>>544640369If you do not know the definition of heresy, you haven't the authority to speak for God. On a related matter you also seem to be something of a fraud.
>>544640557I agree. That's why I want you to prove you know what it means.
>>544627340I wouldn't have created the Haavara agreement and I would have actually killed the jews.But it had the same flaws as any government that has a big man at the top. Those under him did not want to report bad news. Same as Trump and Stalin or anyone similar.White national socialism is a pipe dream now. Trust me I want it but I've been on this board since it was made. 15 years and no hope of it happening. America and Europe become browner daily. The only hope is a full societal collapse and then creating a small scale nazi society. Which literally is what all small villages and communities were. With the villages all being of a similar racial background that works together to make sure all needs are met.
>>544628568America was already involved in the war.They were backing the Soviets.
>>544640608sure thing, heretic
>>544628497And yet the NAZIs were fairly prosperous where as the judeo capitalist shitholes are dying.
>>544640751nigger
>>544630692It makes perfect sense.Shithole countries tend to let their resources be plundered.
>>544627340Skip the trains and the camps, go straight to lead.
>>544640782Why rude :c
Heretic: one who speaks without evidence.
>>544639494>1. Hating slavs and treating anything not-germanic below them. On contrary to most amerimutt inspired neo-nazis, the OG nazis were German ultranationalists, the term Aryan meant pure germanic, not some pan-european/white larp they try to preach today.The neuromberg laws made it clear that slavs were Aryan, avi.> 2. Creating absurd hierarchy of yes men who compete for affection of one megalomaniac dear lead who elite worships. This fucked up the government by making it a blood sport among themselves, creating a massive tension in military leadership like SS and Wehrmacht rivalry or party members hating each other and trying to fuck over each others positionExact opposite, avi.Hitler's close circles opposed him on many occasions, when he put his foot down, shit went well, when he didn't shit went south.
>>544641026>if only the Nazis had been more Nazi they could have wonI'm pretty sure they maxed out how Nazi they could be
>>544640933OP question, are you gonna do this thread again?
>>544627340Most things. Edgy memes aside the nazis were pretty retarded and dysfunctional. Too many low class undesirables made it to top positions in the state with predictable results. Its a common flaw in all socialist regimes.
>>544641074They really didn't.They planned on just deporting all jews to Madagascar instead of killing them all and making the world a better place.
>>544627340I wouldn't have a jewish physician be my personal doctor and I'd eat meat.
>>544641085imma fuck up the new thread too socialist heresy is not welcome on my /pol/
>>544641166>> Most effective war machine of its time.>> Capable of fighting the entire industrialised world and almost winning.> In the mean time mutts can't even beat sandal wearing goat fuckersLOL!
>>544641085Yes>>544641085You only fuck yourself by being refutable
>>544641288The nazi warmachine was notoriously inefficient.
>>544641324you posting like shit all of a sudden are you nervous?
>>544641469Do you believe in a just God who governs the world?
>>544641561yes and that's why socialism, national or otherwise goes in the fucking trash.
>>544641612What is your point against benevolence?
>>544641704benevolence is antithetical to socialism, national or otherwise.
>>544640022>>544640090???
>>544641811shit race vpn user can't handle english huh?
>>544627340The only mistake was to rush straight to moscow because Hitler though the Italians had their backs. They didnt, thats why the front starved and got captured. This capturing is how Stalin could make so much propaganda. And this propaganda lead to the Nazi ideology being unavailable during the cold war. It doesnt matter if Germany lost the war regardless. Infact it wouldve made sense surrendering to the British to speed things up. The most important thing is to protect the ideology so it can continue growing after the war. Imagine 70s Germany with a Nazi party in the parliament. >>544627462Retard
>>544641449Was efficient enough to fight bloody wars in multiple fronts.VASTLY outdoing the mutt war machine.
>>544641612> NAZIs are just like hecking commies, they are both socialistPiss off, you horseshoe theory kike.
>>544627340would've gotten the nuke first
>>544641926What do you disagree with what I've said?>>544641934Why did God doom the Nazis to fail in leadership to accomplish their goals?
>>544641957No it was terribly inefficient and every serious historian when asked how the lost includes how inefficiently they handled their war effort. They didnt even move to total war status until 1943! I get you need to based mythology to believe in and all but this thread isn't for you then. The question is what do you disagree with or would have done differently. If you think the nazis were perfect and flawless that just means they were always doomed to fail.
>>544641999/leftypol/ faggotshit race meme flag niggerhadouken yourself my man
>>544641999The commies were better than them unfortunately. More serious and less ideologically retarded. Pretty impressive to be less blinded by ideology than bolshaviks.
>>544642182Interestingly both the British and French were BTFO by Nazis, so the hierarchy is USA > USSR > Germany > UK & France
>>544627570Directly murdering civilians is really really demoralizing for the average solider, even if they are your enemy.The way they actually went around exterminating their vermin was actually very fascinating and took the blame off of any one part of the machine.The ones who rounded them up weren't killing people, they were rounding up dangerous criminals, the ones who transported them weren't killing them, they were just moving people around, the ones who put them to work and malnourished them weren't killing them, they were jsut making those who robbed the people give back to the people from whom they stole from and hurt with their bullshit. When it finally came time to kill them they were barely even human, the killer has pretty much just terminating husks at that point, it probably seemed like a mercy, they were barely killing people.If you believe all that anyway.
>>544642305>If you believe all that anyway./pol/ disputes facts but what is undisputed is defeat at the hands of the country they invaded; Nazi aggression can be proved to be in error from this and all other instances of aggression can be compared
>>544642222If the bongs were defeated then germany would have won the war and france was a significantly inferior power and still only brought low by the cunning and skill of germanys aristocratic officer corps. In the wars of mass mobilization germany failed miserably. America was by far the most efficient war machine on earth during ww2 tho the bongs did good with what they had. Also take note that German battlefield successes started to wain the moment those senior prussian generals of old were replaces with lower class lackeys and yesmen chosen for ideological purity reason.
>>544642379>100pbtidThe error was trusting Churchill and FDR
>>544639949By your logic, no nation or religion or anything on Earth would still be around. Because all of them have failed before. And so will the next one. Your standard is impossible, but you only apply it to Nazis. Everyone else gets a pass. That means youre biased, and your thinking is flawed and your conclusion must be dismissed.
>>544642666Same thing goes for Communists but nobody takes them seriously anymore
>>544642722Same thing goes for democracy and monarchy and everything in-between. Your standard is effectively null.
>>544627340>What would /pol/ do different from the Nazis?Do the holocaust for real.
>>544638845>Communism is a virus that wants to spreadCommunist China hasn't invaded any capitalist countries, and the USSR practiced socialism in one country. This seems like bullshit to me.
>>544642798How so?
>>544642850If your logic is that "systems failed before and therefore we shouldn't try that same system", through divine or earthly means, you have no systems to select because all of them have failed before. Of what use is the standard that invalidates the whole set?
>>544642914I'm not throwing out everything Germany did 1933-1945 but I don't think the nazi party can be revived, nor the communist party.
>>544642833They did back when they actually were commies. Now they are just a one party kleptocracy with no ideology beyond retaining power. No actual communist looks at china with anything other than disgust. That one of the ways to tell if a lefty is serious or just grifting.
>>544642379In fairness Stalingrad held out longer than it had any right to. You ever play RISK and have a strong attack force against a relatively small defense force, quick-roll the dice and just get your shit absolutely raped so severely you immediately go from looking at a probable victory to knowing that every other player is going to dogpile you over the next few turns because you lack any means of fighting back?That pretty much sums up the battle of Stalingrad very nicely.Aside from that, invading Russia was a questionable decision but an understandable one. If Hitler managed to take Russia he'd have a damn near infinite amount of disposable solders to throw at the allies. Leaving Russia alone left his east side vulnerable to a Russian invasion and trusting Stalin wouldn't do that is about as stupid as invading if not more so.Everyone is a genius in hindsight but if you actually put yourself in Hitlers shoes invading Stalingrad is a no brainer. Why send your own men to die fighting the brits and such when you can send in a hoard of mindless pissed of slavic barbarians and all it should* cost you is a few thousand precious German lives?
>>544642722>Same thing goes for Communists but nobody takes them seriously anymoremutts are really this stupid haha
>>544642957Again, that can be said of any government. Democracy did pretty well in Greece until it didnt. Your entire premise is flawed
>>544642992>No actual communist looks at china with anything other than disgust. This isn't true in the slightest. There are plenty of communists that support China, even in the US like the Party For Socialism and Liberation along with the WWP. The ones that don't are typically baizuos like anarchists or ultra left larpers. Even Hasan Piker supports China.
>>544643013Yeah, it is weird, that it happened twice, that a major power became communist.
>>544643006IRL God rigs the dice, if the Nazis had known that they would have behaved better IMO
>>544643339God rigging dice defeats all agency, and makes all discussion moot
>>544642957Ofc it cant be revived and a even if it were a nationalist ideology created for germany is not some universal ideology for anywhere else. Fascism and communism are fundamentally different in that respect. One is for a specific time and people while the other is a universal one size fits all ideology. People in franco's spain weren't worshiping hitler and aryan mythos for example.What you really want is the erasure of liberalism and all its political descendants. That includes communism and fascism. A turning back the clock to a traditional world order before the enlightenment and the false god of progress. Luckily this is all inevitable. Liberalism itself is a western concept and if the west no longer exists then liberalism inevitably dies as the mud civilizations of the earth return to their norms. Not ideal ofc. One would hope the west abandons madness and civilizational suicide before all that but the path is set regardless. Were already at the end stage of liberalism where the ideas of the enlightenment have been taken to their self destructive but logically consistent extremes.
>>544643553>choose bad -> bad resultHow is this not fair?>>544643571Traditionalism is a part of the picture but really Liberalism must be purified of its errors and balanced with it.
>>544643709There is no purifying a cancer. Only removing it. Boomercons will often cite the founders and how they would weep at the sight of shitlibs today. That may be so but the truth is that any random democrat shares exactly the same beliefs as george washington did. The only difference is that those ideas have had a few centuries to mature and be taken to their logical conclusions. It all has to go.
>>544643997So why do you think God has given success to liberalism?
>>544644198God hasnt given success to liberalism. Everything has gone downhill since liberalism was embraced. The more liberal a society the worse it is.
>>544644292>God hasnt given success to liberalismWWII? Cold War? America?
