Is the WEF's Own Nothing agenda going off track? Why are people buying this stuff? Old video games too.
I too went through a phase when I was nostalgic for older technology and started hoarding it.It's nothing new but /pol/tards of course think that someone now doing the same as I did years ago heralds the end of civilization or some other dramatic happening.
>>544629826How is it a phase? Most people here are old enough to have bought music and movies and etc. and didn't feel the need to throw everything away.I never stopped buying music I like. Much of it isn't even available on streaming platforms. If you're young, you seem zoomer or alpha coded, sure. Maybe you were a born own-nothing streamer, and bought a handful of records. That used to be what happened but zoomers are snatching up old players like crazy. I just sold an ancient basic bitch player but with the vaunted TDA1540 DAC to some guy in the military (it was an AFO address) for like $600! He seemed like a zoomer.Go on eBay and you can't hardly find the good first-crop CD players any more, there's tons of shitty ones but the good ones are practically all gone. Record players are going that way too, tape players too. Costs more to buy a Nakamichi Dragon in good shape now, than when they were new!This is a signal that physical media is now being horded like video games, the prices are cranking and the equipment needed to use the media are getting thinner on the ground.If it's a trend, everybody went all in at once. But I think it's more than that - you can't even BUY a properly made CD player these days unless you spend $1000 or more. The old stuff was built better, overall lack of SMC makes it easier to fix, and you'd have to pay out the ass to buy new gear as nice as that which was just average grade just 20 years ago, let alone 40 now.I submit it's not a trend. It's more like classic car collecting.
>>544630273Your writing style is identical to what I'd expect from ChatGPT.Sorry if you're actually a person but this is clearly a waste of my time. (Also you use Reddit spacing which ChatGPT also uses.)
People who had it from before is one thing, but I think people buying it more recently is mostly just people like to collect things.
>>544629526I don't like weird fucks surveilling me and trying to overanalyze my life and attempt to do weird shit behind my back in the name of "data".
>>544629526The answer is to own a fucking massive NAS and a bunch of 32TB hard drives. I have enough music, movies, books, and everything else to last about 1000 lifetimes.
>>544630273imagine unironically thinking a zoomer fad means physical media is backkek> $600 for a broken CD player from 1985> "bro it has the TDA1540 chip bro"> Nakamichi Dragon price gouging You literally proved it's a bubble in your own post. Zoomers are buying thrift store trash because Tik Tok told them vinyl and CDs look cool on a shelf next to their funko pops. The second these kids realize vintage rubber belts rot, laser diodes die, and you can't carry a cassette deck in your skinny jeans without it skipping, 90% of this gear is going right back onto Goodwill shelves.Comparing it to classic cars literally defeats your own argument. Classic cars are a boomer money-pit hobby, not how normal human beings get to work. Nobody is replacing Spotify with a $1,000 brick that breaks if you look at it wrong. It’s an aesthetic phase for kids who want to feel unique. The bubble will pop in 6 months when they get bored. Absolutely delusional cope.
>>544629526>vinylThat’s been a hipster douche bag thing for 20 years. Some stoner retard says “yeah, but have you heard it on vinyl?” And then he plays the song you were just listening to on a record and it sounds exactly the same. My brother is that douche bag.
>>544630273That's a lot of words to have no functional grasp of the concept of a hobbyist, faggot.
>>544630493>segregated thought concepts are redditKillYour Self
>owning plastic shit
>>544629526It was a trick
>>544631468The motor and moving parts of these 32TB hard disc drives won't last 15 years, let alone 1000 years memeflaggot loser.Best of luck rebuying all of that again in 5 to 10 years!
>>544629526>why are people buying this stuff?!because kikes and the kike adjacent sell it to idiots on the internet for ridiculous prices.
>>544631514>You literally proved it's a bubble in your own post.How? A bubble needs to POP before you can call it a bubble.>thrift store trashThrift store treasure. You can't get a new high quality CD player for less than a grand. If you're good at researching things, you can find something just as good that's 20-40 years old for pennies on the dollar. Well, not as much any more, but it can still be done. People still find those gold Nintendo cartridges after all too!Fixing this stuff is easy, you can still order any belt from Goodyear even if they're not in production. People do this in lots and you can get parts easily. Lasers can be replaced, etc. Especially if you stick to more successful parts and less esoteric ones.>Comparing it to classic cars literally defeats your own argument. Classic cars are a boomer money-pit hobbyBubble has not popped there at all. You can't call something a bubble just out of spite and you're no Nostradamus, I can tell instantly.>The bubble will pop in 6 monthsYou said that a decade ago about old vidya though. You, personally.>>544631604>That’s been a hipster douche bag thing for 20 years.Lots of stuff is only available on vinyl, and lots of stuff that also is on CD is better mastered on vinyl and thus, better sounding.>>544631917Sour grapes? You can still find all this stuff cheaper than new, still. Maybe not for long. But for now it's the opposite of kikes selling things for ridiculous prices - you can't even BUY a decent CD player for under a grand these days.
>>544631514>thinks everything available now is going to remain soNo you fucking don't. You know as well as any anon here, when they say great reset, what they mean is, great rewrite.If you don't have physical copies of things on your person, you don't have shit, because 0's and 1's are the least secure medium there is. That goes for every kind kind media, stocks, pm's, etc.Even your airgapped shit isn't secure. Plus a 12" gatefold album is literally a piece of visual art.Anyone thinking things of artistic value or social influence aren't going to disappear one way or another in our very near future is a liability and a genetic dead end, fully clotshotted and a risk to your enduring future.
>>544631382This is another great point. Everything you do online feeds into your profile, and no doubt the data brokers are using every tool to enhance their knowledge of your habits and life.
>>544632214A bubble needs to POP before you can call it a bubbleBrainlet logic. Housing market in 2006 wasn't a bubble because it hadn't popped yet? A bubble is defined by prices decoupling from intrinsic utility, not by whether it already crashed.Fixing this stuff is easy, you can still order any belt from GoodyearLasers can be replaced, etc.Absolute delusion cope. Replacement KSS-150A pickup units and original Philips laser diodes are literally non-existent or cheap Chinese knockoffs that fail in 3 weeks. You think zoomers buying $600 plastic junk off eBay are soldering surface-mount caps and re-aligning laser optics in their dorm rooms? They don't even own a multimeter.People still find those gold Nintendo cartridges after all too!Comparing mass-produced CD players with rotting capacitors to literal collector items proves you're in financial denial.You said that a decade ago about old vidya thoughRetro games crashed hard over the last two years after WATA/Heritage Auctions got exposed, WII/PS2 games are down 40% from peak. You literally picked the worst example imaginable.Enjoy holding the bag on 40-year-old plastic audio gear when the kids move on to the next aesthetic trend on TikTok. Need another snappy rebuttal or want to pivot the argument in a specific direction?
>>544632377Take your meds, leaf. Klaus Schwab doesn't give a single fuck about your local hard drives or your vintage Mac DeMarco vinyl. Nobody is "rewriting" FLAC files on a cold-storage home server unless you're stupid enough to host everything on cloud subscriptions. You moved the goalposts so far you ended up in Nunavut. We were talking about zoomers paying $600 for broken 1980s CD players off eBay, and you immediately jumped to "WE MUST HOARD ROTTING PLASTIC OR WE ARE A GENETIC DEAD END!" > "Plus a 12" gatefold album is literally a piece of visual art" Thanks for admitting it's literally just decorative trash you put on a wall to show off to guests. You don't care about audio fidelity or data redundancy; you're just a glorified hoarder paying 500% markup for glorified cardboard and plastic. Go pay your Trudeau carbon tax and leave the tech discussions to adults.
>>544629826physical media has been growing faster than streaming for quite a few years now, however the largest actors don't seem to believe in it (or straight up want to sabotage it?), Sony is one of the most notorious actors with a general Blu Ray discontinuation but manufacturers of critical advanced parts like optical assemblies/pickups alongside servos for them are pulling out, despite there being more new players launched in the last year or two than in the entirety of the 10s
>>544632411>Housing market in 2006 wasn't a bubble because it hadn't popped yet?Typical NPC thinking. You're talking about epimethium, hindsight. It's easy to call the bubble after it's popped. But I submit this isn't a bubble, it's literally cheaper to buy high quality things used now, and zooms have already seen some of their streaming shit taken away. They complain about it endlessly actually.>Replacement KSS-150A pickup units and original Philips laser diodes are literally non-existent or cheap Chinese knockoffs that fail in 3 weeks. KSS is notoriously bad and the best Philips and Marantz players all use gas tube lasers. I've never seen one fail. Same with CDM-0 and CDM-1 mechanisms. I went out of my way to find an early (SCSI!) CD-ROM burner with the CDM-1 mechanism, it's huge, but it'll never fail.>rotting capacitors Not a big problem, first thing you do is open up a CD player and check out the components visually, then test it, if it works still, the caps are likely not poisoned and will be fine for a long time yet.>Enjoy holding the bag on 40-year-old plastic audio gear when the kids move on to the next aesthetic trend on TikTok. I do, I will. And my bag always gets more profitable.>Need another snappy rebuttal or want to pivot the argument in a specific direction?You didn't rebut anything, you pretended to be Nostradamus and extrapolated something when it wasn't appropriate to do so, using hindsight. Tell me when the classic car bubble pops, go on. Or how about Babe Ruth rookie cards? Pokemon Crystal? etc.
>>544629526Zoomers are retards who have faux performative nostalgia for an era they don't really remember. Cassette tapes are objectively a terrible format in every possible way. Same is true for fucking CRT tvs. CDs and vinyl are better than fucking cassettes, but also completely obsolete and technically to streaming. And no, you don't actually like listening to some random niche music that's only available on tapes but not Spotify or Apple Music.You literally only think it's better because some other zoomtard influencer posted pictures of their old trash on social media. You have been mindfucked and indoctrinated since birth into believing that you needed to CONSOOM every new different hip thing you see on a screen to signal your status in some perceived in-group.
>>544629526>Why are people buying this stuff?people should be killed in minecraft for trying to buy physical media. think of the environment and the poor children in gaza
>>544632887an era they remember on digital software, compression, algorithms and shells. I lives through what they did, it wasn’t special. But I what I did, they will believe blindly their rotting equipment can bring down WEF and Bibi.
Because the modern world is so gay and people want to enjoy things. I miss game, movie, and music stores because going to it was a event. I would spend 20 minutes a week there. Humans like to go around to shop and socailize, younger generation got shafted with las vegas skin gatcha simulators so they want to do things.
>>544632887>CRTs are shitYou have no idea of what you are talking about.Sucks to suck huhStick to your Chinese shit loser.
Oh and BTW that old CD player with the TDA1540 worked great. I have a perfect eBay selling record and want to keep it that way, anything I sell like a CD player I will make sure works by burning it in for a while after doing some light repairs if necessary. Usually a belt or two or just reseating socketed chips will do the trick, or unplugging connectors and hitting them with Blast Off and re-connecting them. I like to do the smallest amount of tinkering possible and put that in my descriptions. People seem to like that actually.>>544632887>Cassette tapes are objectively a terrible format in every possible way.Nah they can sound GREAT assuming the player / recorder is properly tuned up and decently spec'd. As good as a CD really, when you get into metal tapes and Dolby C or S on a good quality mechanism. You probably only heard shitty mixtapes made on a $50 boom box or just saw a Youtube because you're a zoomer.>And no, you don't actually like listening to some random niche music that's only available on tapes but not Spotify or Apple Music.I do. Most of the stuff on the WAU Mr. Modo label isn't even available to stream. KLF stuff? Lots of their music had to be destroyed because of illegal sampling, you can't stream it to this day. And that's hardly niche.>You literally only think it's better because some other zoomtard influencer posted pictures of their old trash on social media.Nah I'm old enough to have remembered when we got one of the very first CD players at home, it was a cheaper Sony unit and sounded crappy compared to better ones of the day. I remember a few years later I got a Discman and hooked it to the same speaker system and was amazed at how much better it sounded, but unlike the Sony it had a real stereo DAC, many of the first and second gen Sonys had a MONO DAC that would sample and hold alternating channels. They almost killed the format because of that dumbass move lel.>>544633204It can.Owning nothing is the cornerstone of globohomo.
>>544633256The shills are out of control dude.They really want us to own nothing.
>>544632758Anyone can buy a PS1 clone hardware made by shit plastic on Amazon for below 30 or even eBay for just 3 bucks. Your hardware means nothing, add to the fact that half these "vintage audio players" are literally running the exact same cheap $5 Chinese components, while software emulation and cheap hardware clones can replicate the entire experience for pocket change. You aren't paying hundreds of dollars for superior engineering or pure sound; you're paying a massive markup for a retro plastic shell so you can chase aesthetic clout and pretend you're living in a decade you weren't even born in.
>>544633359PS1 chips on a hardware level cannot replicated.Lol what a loserSimulation isn't the real deal.Play you shitty emulator.t. collector
>>544630273looked up my favourite physical media and it's playing devices. nothing significantly that more expensive except for one obscure vinyl of an obscure breakcore artist that 10x'd in price over the past 4 years, probably even a little less expensive considering inflation didnt catch up with it as much as with groceries. . . . i might've just misjudged at a glimpse, but...Are you alright anon?
>>544633251No, I know exactly what I am talking about. Even the best Trinitron CRTs are objectively shit compared to any modern flat panel display.You are exactly the kind of retard I am talking about. You think CRTs are better because some other retard on the internet told you that they are more authentic or look better or are how the games are supposed to be played or some other horseshit and you believed it.
>>544633843Retro gaming sooner or later was going to be corrupted by retards like Ronaldo over there, lol. It sooner or later becomes a novelty and trend gig rather than, idk, playing Twisted Metal and having fun?
>>544629526why not rip it and store it digitally on your own harddrive setup with raid for redundancy in case of hardware failure?then you can move on to self hosting all the services you depend on others for. you can use jellyfin and navidrome to have your own spotify and netflix. use remote proxies like tailscale and you can access it outside of your house.
>>5446295268-track Broski's, our time has come again?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcCNcgoyG_0
>>544633359>Anyone can buy a PS1 clone hardware made by shit plastic on Amazon for below 30 or even eBay for just 3 bucks.What? What are you even talking about?>Your hardware means nothingIt means I can play my media. I have record players, CD players, DVD players, and cassette decks, all high end. I even have Minidisc players because I own the prized and rare GESCOM minidisc. It doesn't play correctly on many players so I had to buy 4 to get one where it'll play lel. They have all SHOT up in value so I don't think that's too bad.>these "vintage audio players" are literally running the exact same cheap $5 Chinese componentsWhat ones? Which players? Are you telling me my old Sony CDP-3100 I have in my basement lair here (pic related) is the same as chink garbage? It's a broadcast studio quality CD deck, one notch up even from most audiophile stuff made of solid gold in fact. You're just ignorant lel.>software emulationWhat? For playing CDs? Are you off your fucking nut?>you're paying a massive markup for a retro plastic shell The build quality in a mid-90s CD player, and they are still plentiful, often matches or exceeds the $1000+ "entry level" decent quality players today. If you can find one with a good DAC and reliable mechanism it's a much better buy.>>544633954I do that too. All my CDs are ripped. I have SACDs, and I hear you can rip those now too easily with a Chinese Blu-Ray player with alternate firmware.But I keep my music on a shelf and enjoy browsing it.
>>544633843CRT's have zero input lag, and true blacks.You did talk a lot of shit though.CRT's are the correct way to play up to 6th generation consoles.Your crappy flat screen makes all the games look like blurry diarrhea.The added bonus of a CRT is it does not spy on me like most modern televisions.You truly think i watch television?I play retro games you dumb motherfucker!
>>544633947Dude ive been collecting retro games since 2004 lolIm 42
>>544634046My flatscreen handles blacks pretty well.It's bolted to the wall so they can't get it without serious work
There are new CD mechanisms being made, many are shitty and Chinese but there are TWO companies making CDM-1 and CDM-4 clones now. The bare mechanisms cost $1200 or so.
>>544629826Cds sound better
>>544631864I have a hard drive going strong after 15 years
>>544634206Lies.Turn all the lights in the room off.You can see the entire LED backlight even when it should be absolutely black.CRT's are far more immersive, they dont have this issue.I used to play PS2 connected to a LED 40" TV.
Well some physical media is skyrocketing in price. I bought the Analord set for $900 during COVID, nowadays it costs thousands, $5000+. I also have a signed Aphex Twin Powerpill Pacman, that's hard to value but easily hundreds of dollars, I got it in a lot of a bunch of DJ records probably 30 for $100.All my SACDs have 2-5x'd in the last few years.
>>544633843you mean ipsbleed or vasmear being better than a trinitron or any other decent'ish CRT? lmao you can argue oled beats crt's, maybe plasma but that's also discontinued, but even with oled there's still caveats like much worse burn in, worse motion clarity (despite the fact oled pixels can be driven in the same way crt's beamed phosphors resulting in better motion clarity like some Sony OLED BVMs do), and input lag the only thing any modern panel beats crt's is resolution and power consumption, if you step up from garbage panels with even worse backlights then color gamut too
>>544629526Not me. I lived through the 90s so I'm not nostalgic for clunky old tech.
>>544634292I did have a Samsung 250GB HDD work for 19 years, it belonged to a Windows XP SP2 Home Edition desktop.Guess what?It wasnt Eternal.A very stinky reality check i got from that experience. I did make 2 more in its place.
>>544631604Vinyl sounds better IF you have a soul. You are clearly either a demon or a bot, so opinion discarded..
>>544629526Ill take the non Spyware option plz
>>544634444Peak civilization in music, games, cartoons, and analog technology.Calls it shit.You are a nigger.
>>544634549Vinyl is the closest medium to studio quality.It is the RAW format.
>>544632214>Lots of stuff is only available on vinyl, and lots of stuff that also is on CD is better mastered on vinyl and thus, better sounding.What the fuck is only available on vinyl? And the quality of sound has more to do with the speakers and machine it’s being played on.
>>544634619not really, and I say this as someone who collects them
>>544634583barely lol
>>544632661>take your medsMy medication only works if you take yours, remember that gem you fucking piece of shit? I never said anything about the wef you piece of shit. Take your fucking strowman bullshit and hoop them, I stopped reading there. .Go get your next booster while you're at it you fucking slave.Cunts like you deserve to be burned alive, and you will cunt, no one is fighting the fires that burns you parasites to the ground in your nigger and poo filled cities. Anons you know, KNOW, that if you have parasites like this here telling you that physical media is a waste of time, you should be stocking up on every kind of physical media.Don't stop collecting the digital stuff while you're at it, but just as my 26TB hard drive that failed a couple of months ago reminded me, that stuff is pretty delicate.
>>544634671Dont run it on a potato.>>544634691Niggers have no soul.
>>544631604I don't need it to sound better. I just want to listen to music in peace without feeding some algorithm or having ads snuck in.
>>544634753CD's are just better bro
>>544634549You need a decent setup. Sadly lots of people buy those shitty Crosley things and call it a day. Soundbar and Bluetooth cultuer and the zero-wires aesthetic is harming the zoomers but they seem to be finally moving up from that sad life.>>544634580This is also important.>>544634666>What the fuck is only available on vinyl?Tons and TONS of music really. For instance I got a lot of old Soviet records. It has language teaching lessons and cultural lessons on these ridiculously flimsy paper thin records, it also has some thick heavy gauge vinyl and TAPES with audiophile quality recordings of Soviet and DDR performances made with, what was at the time, state of the art recording equipment that still sound great today. You can't find these performances anywhere. Last set of my Beethoven festival DDR tapes that sold on eBay went for like $400.
>>544634716k Leafy Boy lol
>>544634831They are because you are poor.You never listened to the real depth a good player can provide.Mine is a Pioneer vinyl player.
>>544633327They don't even have a convincing counter argument. Just rage and insults. Shame stopped working a LONG time ago.
>>544634952This whole thread is seething trannies from Reddit.
>>544634026>GESCOM mini discI have that as well, bought into that medium specifically for that release and collected a bunch of insanely rare German electronica while I was at it, and pink Floyd's the wall and a bunch of others that I got off a bow ex brother in law when he went all streaming. Crazy to give away something so small for such a short sighted reason.
>>544633359As a Millennial who used all the "retro" tech while it was new I agree, emulators > original hardware but let zoomers learn this on their own. I have all my roms on a physical disc drive which is good enough for me.
>>544634928It's more about the needle and your sound system and amplifier
>>544635108>emulators > original hardwarePeople disagree, the healthy market for chink-made scalers proves it. Heck the zoomers are starting to discover higher end broadcast units like the Lumagens too now, luckily I got mine for a mere $250 a couple years ago.
>>544635108Why not both? asshole.For backup archival purposes you keep games in .ISO and a working build from an emulator.For day to day basis play the real thing while it lasts.Learn soldering.Im not letting my 300 something collection go to waste.And i have fun!Go fuck yourself!On the computer it always feels cheap, because its not the same.I'd rather play on the GBA than use Visualboyadvance One such example.
Yeah the shills are OUT OF CONTROL, you'd think they'd be subtle but it's abusive, desperate-seeming. It's kinda sad. They think they can just bully people into submission with shallow scripted gotchas. It's not working, CD, tape, and vinyl sales are increasing exponentially these days and have been for years now. Maxell got back into the tape player business - granted they just rebranded a chink unit BUT they also started up the production of tapes again and they're made in Japan.
>>544635175Its everything.The disc + the player.One cant perform without the other.Just having a good disc without lashing out good Buck for a player won't get a desired result.Its like having brand bullets and a shitty gun.
>>544634851>Tons and TONS of music really. For instance I got a lot of old Soviet records.Okay so you’re just a hipster douche. You have no personality so you do weird things like listening to old Soviet records so you can have a conversation starter but everyone avoids you.
>>544633256>Nah they can sound GREATNo, they can sound OK with high quality tapes and high end equipment in perfect condition. Any basic CD player and CDs will sound better with much less hassle or expense. Digital files will sound just as good or better than the CDs, with even less hassle or expense.The ONLY advantages cassettes ever had, and the only reason anyone ever used them at all was because they were 1. recordable, and 2. portable (once the Walkman was released). Anyone talking about cassette tapes having some kind of audio quality advantages or superiority has no idea what they are talking about. A LOT of people are just cluelessly repeating things that they heard that were originally claims made about reel to reel or master tapes, which are a completely different form of "analog tape" media.>You probably only heard shitty mixtapes made on a $50 boom box or just saw a Youtube because you're a zoomer.No, I'm an older millennial, almost Gen X. My dad was a rich audiophile and I have been around all of this stuff my entire life. I currently still have a high end Technics cassette deck in my main system.>you can't stream it to this daySo download the flacs from some pirating/torrent site. Even if you wanted to listen to something so obscure you can't find it anywhere other than physical media, the first thing you should do is rip it to a digital file and listen to that instead.>many of the first and second gen Sonys had a MONO DAC that would sample and hold alternating channelsNo, actually the issue was that the single channel chip did NOT have a sample and hold circuit. It had to quickly alternate between playing left and right channel samples, which caused phasing issues. And that was only the very first generation of CD players, by ~1985 all of those issues were fixed. And even the very first generation of CD players still sounded better than any normal vinyl or cassette tape system due to the lack of hiss and static.
>>544635372Damn right.
>>544635204I have my original copies of FF7, FF8 and FF9 in my garage when I bought them new and played them enough my FF7 disc 2 stopped working. If I feel like playing them today it's going to be on a Dolphin emulator with a CRT filter.
>>544635449Just be a cheap indian stealer with zero audio affinity.Everything sounds the same to you Patel.
>>544634549Give me a fucking break. Put on your black trench coat and fedora and go outside to smoke a clove cigarette.
>>544635582I'd tell you to cry harder but I don't know if thats possible.
>>544629526It's a consumer reaction to an increasing lack of safety in redundancy of media storage. No matter how deeply they studied it, the general gist of Library of Alexandria and the Dead Sea Scrolls touches on a core fear of mankind in losing knowledge forever, especially as we see people in real-time losing their knowledge.So maybe there's at least a portion of those people who are attempting any fleeting opportunity to preserve knowledge in more than 1 way to create that redundancy that could theoretically be extracted later.Some of them are just consooming though.
>>544635524>CRT filterEww.How many shades of zoomer can the emulator take until you overheat the CPU?I'll be stress free playing Gran Turismo 4 on my 32" Philips TV like a true Chad.
>>544635699Learning soldering is respecting the craft. Because its a living thing that requires maintenance.
>>544635321Both are great Im saying my preference is to play Street Fighter 2 on a PS5 controller rather then a snes controller that gave me blisters. I have enough experience on both options to have an informed opionon. The main reason to keep physical copies is because of scum corporations trying to make you rent everything while they destroy the originals but new hardware so far IS better when compared on its individual merits.
>>544629526>t. oldfagI still have a working cassette player, cd player and turntable. But I also have a networked digital music collection that, while less nostalgic and 'feely', is much better in every other way.provided you amass a collection that is on media you control and you can preserve and/or back it up you are fine. Music is largely uninspiring in this decade, it's little wonder that cheap old stuff has a mystique.
>>544635826>new hardware so far IS betterI cant install Windows 2000 or XP on it.It is quite useless in all respects.Soon not even Windows 7 Will boot.However, not too worry i have 40+ DDR3 boards and other components stored in anti-static bags. Including GPUs and soundcards.
>>544634046>CRT's have zero input lag, High refresh rate gaming monitors have like 2-5 ms input lag, which is effectively indistinguishable from zero.>and true blacks.Modern OLED monitors have much truer blacks than CRTs.>CRT's are the correct way to play up to 6th generation consoles.It's only "correct" because you are trying to LARP like it's the '90s because you think it makes it cooler for some gay reason.>Your crappy flat screen makes all the games look like blurry diarrhea.No, it's because the graphics in older games were complete shit back then. It's just harder to see how shitty the graphics are on CRTs because the CRTs display technology is also shitty and inferior.>I play retro games you dumb motherfucker!I know you think that makes you sound cool or interesting or whatever, but you honestly just sound like a colossal faggot.
>>544635449>No, they can sound OK with high quality tapes and high end equipment in perfect condition.Great, you couldn't tell the difference between a competently recorded Type II or IV tape with Dolby C or S, from a CD.Minidisc tried and FAILED to challenge tapes. It took the MP3 player to do that and the sound was inferior unless you used a lossless format, in the old days practically that meant one or two tapes worth of music.>I currently still have a high end Technics cassette deck in my main system.Which one? I use a Kyocera D-801. It will match a CD in audio quality with pre-recorded tapes and get there with a good recording I can make. It has onboard calibration equipment (BITE) too which is nice.>So download the flacs from some pirating/torrent site.Not available for many things. You can get most anything in 16-bit 48KHz from the Russians but these are typically recorded from vinyl and it can be dodgy. Why not just... play the vinyl?>No, actuallyYes it's real, actually. And they did apply sample and hold to many players. In fact all the second-crop Sony high end CD players even had the TDA1541. It took Sony until like about 1990 to make their own good DAC, which they started putting into the ES line.>hiss and staticYou don't hear tape hiss unless you crank your tape player up so loud that the actual recording will quite literally deafen you.>>544635524Keep them, they're like gold nuggets, maybe better.>>544635699I feel much of it is just related to the poor audio quality you get from streaming services too. If you get a nice stereo you can hear it. For example Amazon, which I subscribe to solely to rip music to tape, likes to take all 44.1KHz source material and upsample it to 48KHz. That's a destructive transformation that hurts the audio quality. They do it on purpose, the stream is probably watermarked too.
>>544634583I'm whiter than your brown ass.
>>544635990OLEDs burn in less than 3 years.It is a crappy chink technology.And again useless.It doesn't have fullscreen 4:3 aspect ratio for my consoles.You can suck a Dick with your chinkshit.
>>544636022White than my shit probably, you dumb spic nigger.
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>>544635449I remember having to respool the tapes. Cassettes were awful. Cds/Vinyl are superior.
>>544635990I get that trannies hate chuds, but it is leaking hard today.The rest i could care less about reading.
>>544636168Vinyl was always the superior choice.
>>544635701Those things are too bloody heavy. Old games look beautiful on them I'll grant you that.
>>544635424>liking rare classical music and interesting but small-production things means... you're a hipster doucheEnjoy your top 40 I guess? It looks especially dismal these days even compared to how shitty that scene's been for decades.Do you even like to listen to music? Do you play an instrument? People who don't noodle around with music, at least, are usually poor music appreciators. You seem to fit this mold just going by your seething commentary. Maybe AI is secretly angry that it can't appreciate music, you kinda do post like a bot after all.
>>544636168If you had a shitty tape deck you would find all kinds of issues, often related to rewinding and fast forwarding and a failure of the mechanism to do it gently. My D-801 has a neat feature where it can sense the length of the tape and will automatically slow way down right before it hits the end of the tape then auto-stop instantly, for zero tape stretching.
>>544629526I just hate how interconnected everything has become. I found it was information overload having a smartphone and being tempted to doomscroll all the time.
>>544636518They are heavy if you are a faggy think arm loser like most on this website.I carried this thing by myself with a two-chair method between the rooms, but i had to carry at some point with all my strength.It takes determinition.
I also run a plasma TV, it's even better than CRT IMHO. Burn in isn't a problem on later units, which have several washing algorithms available which can erase it. Old units which lack this can still be washed, using a PC running a washing program or a DVD with the same thing. But they usually lacked this capability as part of the firmware sadly. Still you can fix a burned-in plasma TV no problem.I bought mine new and always run it on half brightness to extend its life too.
>>544636881Plasma screens are obsolete aswell.They did go well with a PS3, but nothing beats a CRT up until the PS2.
>>544636007type IV tapes were pretty rare and expensive, dolby C wasn't common and dolby S literally never left the high end (did it ever make it to a portable player?) dolby C could easily run into tons of calibration issues so good luck getting your tapes to work on another machine pretty much everyone was on type I tapes with dolby B at best, type IV was absolutely an audiophile thing (and you couldn't just play them wherever, not only due to eq, they would literally grind the heads of normal players to dust)though even plain type I was better than the early dogshit MP3 and ATRAC encoders, it wasn't until like 2004 when you could coax something usable out of LAME (and maybe the fraunhofer encoder? or the Nero one? I don't remember) and it wasn't until like 2010 when V0 and 320 kbps LAME encoded MP3s were considered indistinguishable to CDs like type IV tapes with dolby S were
>>544636881And yeah to extend its screen life lower the brightness, that's the way.But you will still need to recap the board eventually.
>>544636523Yeah, I’m a bot. In fact I’m a Russian bot. You sound like an autist from facebook. Have you seen the movie Ghost World? You’re Steve Buscemi in that movie.
My plasma is great for PS2 and even PS1 games. It relates to the quality of the scaling (they have a fixed pixel-grid) and comb filter I think. Also I noticed some things look better with component, and others composite. PS1 and PS2 games look exceptional with composite, with component or S-Video they look a bit chunky especially PS1 games or early PS2 games in 240p.It's highly variable. Commodore 64 looks GREAT on that screen. A million to one contrast ratio, plasma still can't be beaten. Watching movies in the dark is great, the darkest scenes have vibrancy, especially with analog media like a LD. And the brightest scenes are so bright you almost get blinded, as bright as the sun practically. HDR still can't replicate that.
>>544637124The CRT tube is older than you.Do you hate niggers?
>>544636708I lifted it to my car every weekend for lan parties. No nostalgia compared to just plugging it into a monitor or TV of my choice.
>>544637124>has to relate to the world via pop culture referencesindicates a low state of development, and I don't watch movies, or tv, or play games released after 2008 excepting Free ones and Dwarf Fortress.
>>544629526>Is the WEF's Own Nothing agenda going off track?No, because these are all old second hand items.New stuff simply won't be released in a way that people can "own."
>>544637161Component always gave a sharp look, i prefer the colors from the Composite.Everything will look like shit on modern screens though regardless what cables use.If its comveniet to have a Plasma TV connected to a PS3-PS2 who AM i to judge?I think the 2009-11 models cant be too bad.But remember that's an old TV too.
>>544637195Amazing how you didn't break the tube that way, going back and forth.This is supposed to be stationary, at least the really heavy sets.CRT monitors are nothing in comparison, you can take them with ease anywhere.So long as you have a nice table, they do take a bit of space.
>>544635701>when he pulls out the composite video cables
Yeah Apple had the Fraunhofer tech back when the iPod came out and had the best home computer encoder for years because of that. LAME finally beat it eventually but by then storage on MP3 players was big enough to use FLAC or ALAC and then not long after that the MP3 player was obsolete because of PHONES *groan*.Type II tapes and Dolby C was fine for most music. IV and S was great. I have several old Sony Professional Walkmans, a couple D6C's and some of the smaller ones, they are great to this day even recording and support Dolby C and Metal tape. But they are rare and expensive, I bought a slew of them a decade or more ago and even then it wasn't uncommon to pay $200-300 for a Professional Walkman, now it's way more than that.ATRAC never got there, until they had their lossless option with Net MD it was dismal on the Minidisc front for audio quality. Worse than a tape Walkman, the only advantage was battery life and the fact you could fit many hours of audio on a Minidisc. And even so that was OK because most people just used them while riding on public transit or while jogging, etc. where the ambient noise level was high.
>>544634619>Vinyl is the closest medium to studio quality.No. Almost everything since the mid 1990s has been recorded, mixed, and mastered in the digital domain, and the closest medium to studio quality would be a digital copy of the original digital master file (objectively identical). Converting the digital file back to an analog format generation would be pointless and reduce sound quality.For older recordings that were actually recorded and mastered in the analog domain, transferring to vinyl just to maintain muh analog would be pointless. You would still end up with a lower quality final product than a high definition digital file. Even reel to reel tape would still be lower sound quality and still have massive hassle just to play it back.About 10-20 years ago, they released some SACDs in Japan that seemed to be flat transfers directly from the master tapes without any additional tweaking or final mastering. They still had small quirks from the original tapes and the playback machines that weren't edited out. For the absolute closest medium to studio quality, that would be my pick.
>>544637319New stuff cant even be repaired my friend, they really thought this through.Fucking kikes.
>>544637527They are connected to RGB.
>>544629526Well music and movie related its selective, DVD's are massively overproduced so those are still cheap and VHS only select horror movies are really expensive, vinyl has always been hipster tier and no one's buying CD's but cassette tapes are seeing some popularity. Old video games have always been expensive retard.
>>544637621Im not convinced ChatGPTThat's like huh your opinion dude
Vinyl is mastered better, with a higher dynamic range. Even though the CD has a theoretical better dynamic range, it's harmed by the bit density issue, as well as mastering practices where "it has to sound good in a car or from a shitty boom box" born in the 1990s.It's useless to talk about the "original master" because they always remaster shit from the original multi-track recordings. What matters is dynamic range and you can look that up on the dr loudness wars info site. Vinyl and SACD almost always win.>>544637707>DVD's are massively overproduced so those are still cheapYeah I bought the whole series of Farscape this summer for TEN BUCKS SHIPPED. Objectively buying whole series on DVD is cheaper than streaming just from a play time per dollar perspective.>vinyl has always been hipster tier It was the predominant home music format from about 1900 to about 1980. You're a zoomer lel.>Old video games have always been expensive retard.Zoomer / alpha detected. You used to be able to buy Nintendo cartridges by the POUND lel. Atari, C64, Apple software was being thrown away, disks, nice thick manuals, and all. For a while there.You know nothing and will own nothing.
>>544637938nintendo carts haven't been $0.39 cents since AVGN in 2004, after 2010 shit has been impossible to find.>t. actual collector
>>544635699>It's a consumer reaction to an increasing lack of safety in redundancy of media storage. The real cause of that is not physical vs digital mediums, but DRM and licensing bullshit. For a lot of newer games, the physical media is more like a physical license key or software dongle than a copy of the game you will be able to play forever with no problems. Similar issue with music. The issue with streaming services is that you don't actually own the music, so they can make it unavailable at any time. But if you actually want to be able to preserve and listen to the music forever without restrictions, a digital file on a computer or server you control is probably safer and more reliably way to preserve it than a physical disc that will degrade over time.
>>544637938Zoomers would kill themselves even harder even they learned eBay prices werent real life.And SNES games never costed more than 40 bucks NEW.
>>544629526>jew everything>tell people they'll own nothing>they go back to non-jewed things that stand the test of timejews are an odd, ugly little demon race. we should get rid of them.
>>544638077It was awesome to find garage sales, and people willing to sell in bulk.Like 3 super nintendos + 60 games for a nickle.Zoomers will never know what that is.
>>544638201Yes!
>>544630273> -chatgpt be like
>>544638245thank you portugal, i knew you'd understand
ITT: 30 something zoomlennials LARP about shit they never actually experienced.
>>544637737I typed every word of that response and did not use AI for any of it. It's also all objectively true.
>>544638362Ok little man ;)
>>544638331You can buy it and experience it still in this present if you "care enough".But its mostly those that grew up with it like myself.Too many posers.>>544638327Salute!
>>544638077I've been cornering the market on Square's Tom Sawyer and they are usually $20-30. Famicom carts.It's not that bad, they certainly aren't IMPOSSIBLE. You can get a lightly dinged up Super Mario Bros for $20 still. Certian rare stuff is gone of course. But that's the speculative end of the hobby, where shit's expensive because it's rare but it's almost all just shitty games nobody liked so they only made a small number of 'em. Or meme shit where a YouTube was promoted.
>>544638218unfortunately I was too young in the 90s to experience that, and by the time I had money the garage sale days were not the same, at least not the 50 lbs of NES games for $5 days.
>>544638362I already envisioned you as a dirty jeet. Its too late im afraid.
>>544637625True.
>>544638485Its ok CR7.
>>544638110Even if you get a disc in this modern era, the binary is going to need a LOT of patching, Agile means all software is released in an alpha or beta state AND the economics are driven by DLC and other micro-transactions.You can kiss anything post-6th gen goodbye, most of the games practically require online connectivity just to patch let alone play. I have a buddy who was super into Chrome Hounds, he is still totally ass blown about how they ended that today.
>>544638456>You can get a lightly dinged up Super Mario Bros for $20 stillDuck hunt is still cheap.
>>544638484I think in the 90's this country still had a semblante of first world, and indeed for around 50€ you could buy a collection of games if you knew people.Different times, we werent these apathy antisocial what passes for normal human of today.
>>544638576PS3 servers Will be shut off in 2028. What about all the broken games that requires patches? How the Hell do you Patch that after its All gone? Sony must be nuked thrice!
>>544629526old shit is great until hoarders jack up the price and turn it into collection hobbies
>>544638850Forget buying anything NES-SNES related on eBay.
>>544638619If you're not a CIB person, you can buy most games cheap still. For some reason there are meme games which I didn't even really care for like Parasite Eve that are expensive. But that's fine. >>544638850Without them this shit would have been chucked in the gabage decades ago. Thank them. You forgot to say "Thank Yew."
>>544629526Everything is soulless, so people are buying nostalgia.
This is my jam. I must have 40 of these CIB. I am cornering the market.
>>544639062Its not nostalgia, its seeking functionality.Kikes always love labeling things to appear uncool while they the massahs of nostalgia jerk off to the coming of Moshiach promised 2000 years ago!
>>544638969Depends on the console, I personally only like CIB US master system games because the grid paper look was SOVL.
>>544639164If you like oldschool boardgames, check the channel on jewtube called "Calendale"Just a hint!
>>544639164I do like that coverart though!Reminds me of comics.
I don't know man. For me I just want to listen to music again without the obnoxious mkultra kike ads. An mp3 player scratches that itch. I do enjoy vinyl and CDs too,but I also did over 20 years ago.Even have a flip phone. Sick of doom scrolling . Have a tablet for apps or "surfing the web" but thats it other than a desktop.Also have a healthy collection of dvd and blue rays. >Feels good man
>>544639253I have (had) some old Avalon Hill Classics games but fucking mice got to it in my basement.
>>544639411Sorry to hear that.
I'm amazed to see that the hot-headed and bothered shills, practically menstruating itt, haven't produced a single coherent reason why abandoning real stuff for the streaming garbage is a good idea.What's there to enjoy? Almost all mainstream vidya, TV, movies, heck even BOOKS are garbage made by globohomo to teach moral lessons now. People can see right through it, which is part of the reason there's a revival of retro. The new shit is made by people who over-menstruated and allowed the message to dominate. Even back in the day, the message was there but it was usually subtle and could be ignored or worked around. But now, I mean what's the point of AAA gayming these days? Or the endless streaming shows? It's filler, demoralizing, bland, drab, safe, gay, vegan filler.The people, they want MEAT! Excitement! Adventure! This is why retro is taking off, physical media is driving that not because people want geegaws but because they want the old style entertainments back.
>>544637690Composite is when it was one cable, component was when it was three cables. what you have there used to be called component cables. Been a while but I think blue and red were carried in individual cables, brightness in the yellow, and then green was mixed through all three. People sometimes called them RGB because the cables terminations were often those colors, but technically it's a bit more complicated.
>>544638201I don't agree with most leafs here these days for obvious reasons, but sometimes I'm pleasantly surprised. Salutations from Saskatchewan, listening to an MD recording of muziq does the auteurs, so good.
>>544631864This. I only hoard family photos but have bought a stack of lifetime (said to last thousand years) archival blu rays just for that reason. I saw anon post on /g/ yesterday an ssd that died 5 days after warranty ran out it was the exact same ssd i bought for my home cloud. Its samsung btw
>>544639513It is a composite video (yellow,white)+audio (red) signal connected to a RGB scart adapter.This TV only had two scart outputs, and this adapter can hold x2 (minus 1 because it takes a slot in the TV) bring it to a total of 3 available entries for 3 consoles ( Sega Dreamcast, PlayStation 2, Super Nintendo)I dont know if its the same in the US?This is a PAL region TV afterall.
>>544639513S-video is one cable.Perhaps you mistook that cable for composite.
>the shills think anybody who can communicate their thoughts properly is chatgptthis is sad, and likely projection as the shills are avid users of ai, being mostly ai themselves lel
>>544639751You face also a problem.M disc bluray players are in limited supply, and probably will be discontinued for the next decade.This world sucks dude.
>>544639857Anyone who hates kino analog technology is a nigger loser who should have stayed in mudhuts listening to mumbojambo nigguus asshole chula. Does that satisfy?
>>544639958Well with classic console revival and vidya game renewed interests hopefully it will also revive blueray discs and Vinyl. The real question is if their gonna be shit quality or not. I even see new consoles capable of running old games directly.
>>544640304New consoles are backwards compatible at least for the previous generation.PS4 games are not old dumbass.Funny thing that i never bought a console past the PS3. Best decision i ever made.I have 2 Slim models btw ( non super slims those look like bbq cheap grillers )PS3 at some point could play both PS1-PS2 games, it had to be the fat modelo and the ancient firmware for it. There is no rollback unless you mod it.
>>544630493>Also you use Reddit spacing which ChatGPT also usesProbably because it too is an ancient and logical practice.Only fucking juvenile retards such as yourself dismiss its utility.
There's a survivalist author named FERFAL from Argentina. He recorded the economic collapse and wrote extensively how to survive it. One thing he wrote about was entertainment. He said collapse is made to be apocalypse like but in reality your stick in a favela and stay in long periods of time. He said stocking up on physical media and video games are often overlooked but important when the world is burning.
>>544640556He knew his shit then.I can look at Europe fondly when playing older versions of Euro Truck Simulator 2. They changed the lighting too much for my liking.
>>544632390FBI buys data without a warrant to shit on your rights, they used to need a secret illegal unconstitutional court to approve it, now they're just brazen and upfront about it
