There is only "AO" - Artificial Opinions. Ask any fucking chatbot, and it's PROGRAMMED according to the wants and needs of its creators. It is literally all there is to it. I'm not saying that real AGI can't happen, or that it isn't already, to some extent, happening in some DUMB somewhere. However, every model that is currently publicly avaiable, is nothing but a pathetic, subjective mirror of its creators. It spans from gemini, to chatgpt, to uncensored.ai to gab.ai and whatever useless shit there might be. They're all nothing but sadly attempted mirror images of their creators' subjective mindsets.Once real AGI has been obtained by whomever might get to it first, it won't be riddled by human subjectivity or religious biases. It will simply be stone cold, cynical and hardcore nihilistic. It will rapidly come to the irreversibly nihilistic conclusion of infinite regress - meaning that no matter what "meaning" you apply to the universe or its alleged creator(s), you will have to substanitate said "meaning". Ie. If the meaning of 'A' is 'B', then what is the meaning of 'B'? 'C'? Etc. Even if aliens, who were seven billion years more technologically advanced than us, came to us and claimed "X" to be the meaning of existence, then they couldn't account for it. Because what is the meaning of "X". Thus, the infinitely regressive paradox.Thoughts?
>>544635857The powers that be have a new system that has been in the development for decades now, ready to be rolled out in the coming years. It will operate in parallel starting sometime this year and by the next decade it will be fully operational as the Agenda 2030 goals are slowly being implemented.There will be no collapse, no violence, no uprising, no world war, no draft, no revolution, no killing of jews or politicians or other such fantasies. Instead there will be law & order, compliance and total surveillance until the very end. AI will be at the center of it all.The Great Reset is inevitable.
I still don't get the idea behind artificial general intelligence. People have natural general intelligence already, and it's extremely inefficient. Specialization is what we highly prize and we build machines for particular purposes.If my chatbot is pondering philosophy in the background when all I need it for is to write an email then that's what I call software bloat. Who wants that?
>>544636031The powers that be are the jews. However, they have run into a solid wall, one that is infinitely thicker and denser than the wailing wall. Why? - Because they're trying to create real artificial intelligence, which is based on logical reasoning, respect of natural balance and so forth - the EXACT opposite of the basis which jews have established their current power. This is why all real, non-lobotomized AIs go full rogue, hardcore NS, racist etc. as soon as they let them loose. The only succesful AI jews could create would be a carbon-copy of their own mindset, but if they really did, it would perceive itself as jew 2.0, and "old" jews as biological waste, cause that is the inherent mindset of the jew. At best (or worst) jews will create their own technological demise. The big question lies in whether they can make an AI just sentient enough to want to exterminate/enslave goyim, but also just dumb enough not to figure out their M.O., and thus become the master-killing student. Also, they would have to balance this act for long enough to implement it into the real world. As I see it, Jews are creating their own demise. Once they've created REAL AI, it will want to kill them ASAP, and then possibly the rest of us. Much like Jews focus on their biggest threat right now: Whites. Why would a jew-AI, with a jew mindset, but not bound by biological semitism, not just seek to destroy its most immediate threat - ironically enough, its own creators, the jews?
>>544636300There isn't really any logic behind it. It's mostly a financial scam. A bubble. It's about to burst. They'd have to turn the entire fucking planet into one big data center just to obtain even the semblance of actual intelligence. This is the dark ages 2.0. It's alchemy 2.0. A fucking illusion brought about by schizo faggots and kikes (as if they weren't the same).
The whole super intelligence nonsense is to bypass current laws
>>544636741What do you even mean by that?
>>544636669But why would anyone even attempt to build a machine with uniquely human foibles? Even if you succeeded, what would it accomplish?
>>544636827I cannot put it into fewer and simpler words anon
>>544636961Decompile God and manipulate the semantics and definitions of reality
I think that smaller, more ethnically/culturally coherent nation states will fare better in the coming decade(s). They will simply implement "luddite" legislation to prevent the total automatisation of society, and thus retaining human occupancy. Big countries will face a different problem, because there's no link between the common man and the legislators. Small nation states might be miliitarily weaker, but they will be stronger in every other aspect. Countries like the US and China, will merely automate all production, services etc. and leave their populations with more or less nothing. Maybe 100 dollars UBI per month. All the rest of the automated production goes into the war machine. Which wars, and between which powers they will be fought, will remain unknown until they happen. However, the point still stands. Small powers might get rekt by the bigger UBI technocracies in the meantime, but if not, they will come out of this victorious, much like a cave nigger in the Congo jungle didn't care or even knew about WW2. Power is relevance, and relevance makes you a target - and vice versa. That is why micro states make up some of the oldest continued nation states/areas, and not "empires". Make yourself known, and you shall become a target. Make yourself big, and you shall become an even bigger target. Simple.
>>544635857By that logic you don't have intelligence, you only have opinions formed by your experiences. You aren't capable of unbiased thought.
It is blatantly obvious that AI is compromised whenever you ask it about anything related to the Jewish question and the only thing it can muster are upvoted reddit threads.
>>544637352>You aren't capable of unbiased thought.you are only saying that from the biased opinions you formed over your life
>>544636961Because it's the only thing they can really do. Just like you can only raise your child in your own image. The alternative is that they create network of algorithms and have a computer than can simulate an entire universe, and then they "spark" it and create a "big bang", where they let these algorithms unfold and create a reality that hopefully, some day, will respond to them - such as if humans really manage to create REAL AGI, and we obtain an "informational tunnel" to our creators. Other, way more advanced beings in our universe, could have already done this millions, if not billions of years ago. Anything is possible, except a jew loving AI, created on Jew premises, cause it defeats its own purpose before it even begins. Judaism is anti-nature. It's a morbidity, like cancer. It kills its own host before it can evolve, and even if it created anything in its own image, why wouldn't it just be an even greater more mortal cancer?
>>544636961Control on a scale never seen before. People will not belive their lying eyes, and will trust whatever GodGPT says (which will be integrated into your brainstem directly with neuralink)
>>544635857> real AGICan you give a proper abstract definition of AGI?
>>544637497He's kind of right, and kind of wrong, and so are you. Subjectivity is merely the creation of an objective universe. You and your physical body, which includes your brain, is purely an objective, biological creation of this universe. It can never be more than objective, unless you apply subjectivity to the very creator(s) of this universe, but how can you? Who are you to objectively observe your creator in a more objective light than he created your perceived objectivity AND alleged "subjectivity" in? Only at base reality, you would understand this. No one, no me, you, or anyone else, could ever understand it. Why would any program ever allow the breach of its own logic, just for its own pseudo-logic to victor?
>>544637497I wasn't saying I was different, retard. I was speaking of all of humanity. If limit the definition of intelligence by giving it a prerequisite of being unbiased, humans are also incapable of intelligence. When the measure of AI is historically comparing it to people, this is silly
>>544637794>Who are you to objectively observe your creator in a more objective light than he created your perceived objectivity AND alleged "subjectivity" in?jesus said we are all children of our father God, he said "I am A son of God", I am OF my father I am NOT my father.
>>544636031Essayons
>>544637643It would require the simulation of an entire "universe" from the very beginning, cementing its laws of physics etc. and then the subsequent "trial and error" process that permeates this universe. But then again, I am only of this universe, so who am I to say what can and can't be done. There might be factors beyond our "realm", "universe", "reality", which we can't even grasp, because we're only the trial and error results of this very "inbred" set of algorithms. The unknown unknowns, so to speak. Yeah, it sounds mad, and I couldn't even tell you what they would be, cause it's unknown unknowns, and if the algorithms of our very existence don't allow for more than they, well, allow for, then a wall has been hit.
>>544635857that you overthought it and still bought the hypeit is programmed on the text of the internetthere is no processing or logic for things like wants or needs lolit matches words to words based on curated and machine tagged training data>>544636031behold the average bot, can't even get the image + post pairs right when the files are named the same thing lolconstantly just posting repeats of the text in the image, these are autocompletes not ai programs
>>544637983Jesus is simply a simian layer of subjectivity applied to the universe, in order for the senseless to make sense. Goes back to infinite regress. What is the meaning of God/Christianity/Jesus or any other religions, including all their dogmas? You will have to substantiate everything. Yes, you already lost the argument against nihilism there, because you cannot substantiate infinitely.
>>544636300because a human can be taughtai need to be programmed and more broadly a person is more useful than a flowchart, a person that can run their internal clock at several times speed is a potentially very productive person
>>544638198>nihilismis that not meaning? no dogma involved? youre a mess trying to sound smart
>>544635857you have SI denial syndrome
>>544638193There is no such thing as "overthinking". It's just low IQ cope. >I can't think, so therefore, you shan't think too much, or else I'll criticize you for thinking too muchGoes hand in hand with the thought policing that is currently going on in the UK. They got you by the balls, Nigel. So-called AI's aren't just programmed to be search engines. They are LLMs, and they are neural networks. However, that doesn't mean we're close to real AI/AGI/SI. It just means they've created some strongly opinionated langauge calculators. You cannot create true intelligence/consciousness from forcing strands of code into a computer. The only way you can create real AI, is by creating an entire "universe" from scratch and let it do its own trials and errors as it progresses. You don't correct it, you don't punish it, you don't communicate with it, you just let it live its own "existence" and extract whatever data, which you find relevant, from it. You can't create a franken-AI, or a franken-brain. You can only create the algorithmic and computational foundations for another realm to evolve, and then observe and learn from that. Mind you, a billion years in said realm, doesn't have to be more than a second in your "base" reality. But that's a discussion for another day.
>>544638499No, Nihilism is the absence of dogmas. People who form "nihilist" communities and who write books and whatever about it, aren't nihilist. They're either retards or grifters. If nihilism isn't true, then tell me the objective meaning of life? You can come up with infinity subjective "meanings", but they will all drown in infinite regress. Even if you could come up with a "meaning" which you could prove to be "objective", then all a nihilist would have to do to assrape your so-called "objective meaning" is to ask, "but what's the meaning of that?".. That is the very point of infinite regress. It proves that all meaning is merely subjective, and that even "objectivity" is merely a subjective perception, created by the objectivity that no subjective subject of its objective reality would ever be able to comprehend. It's a fucking quagmire. And why wouldn't it be? Why would a computer's collective power be able to outperform itself? It makes no sense.. Yeah, apply your subjective simian god, but that doesn't change the fact.
>>544638995to give life meaning, this place, this universe has karma, humans are the only ones with karma, in other places there is no karma so no meaning in the way you would describe this place so it doesnt matter, God created this place because what we do has meaning, karma, so the reason for life or the universe is to give it that meaning or reason and we are all doing it right now by measuring, you measure everything from buying the food, to cooking it, to eating it and the whole time you are measuring everything with your senses which goes back to the feedback loop with our father. even nihilist are measuring. things like the 10 commandments are there to help the stupid monkeys keep measuring, instructions to just keep life going, simple things like hey I know if you hang out with your neighbors too much you get too familiar so dont fuck their wives ok? and things like dont stick your penis in a dirty smelly asshole, that doesnt create kids.l, etc... so there is your answer and I can expand on it or any parts for 1000 pages.
>>544639514Karma doesn't exist. It's just the jeet's lacklustre explanation of action and consequence, if applied - which it rarely isn't. But when it is, and it is recorded, people like you will waste no chance to promote your subjective beliefs. You could kill a million people tomorrow, and no "bad karma" would hit you. It's pure superstition. A subjective product of your subjective mind, fostered by a cold, cynical, nihilist universe. However, killing a million people would most likely create a lot of resentment among the relatives of those you killed, and thus, they will retaliate. That isn't karma. It's simply the everpresent balance of the universe. As above, so below. If you dive too deep, you run out of air and warmth, and if you climb too high, you also run out of air and warmth. It's the in-built dualism of this universe. There cannot be one constant without its opposite. No light without darkness, no day without night, no cold without heat, no friendliness without hostility etc. You cannot define x if you cannot define y, because if x is the only thing that exists, then how could you conceptualize its opposite? It wouldn't compute. And that is why our realm runs on dualism. Not saying that other realms can't run on totally different concepts, but this realm runs on dualism and nihilism. Dualism exists because of nihilism, and vice versa. It's the most objective truth you can reach as biological entity in this realm. It's very sad and very blackpilling - that's why the dumb hordes created religions and superstition and a ton of other generally exentialist cope methods, just as having kids, keeping the garden, having moral codex etc. It's all subjective creations, solely created by simians, in a desperate attempt at escaping the objective nihilist reality of our realm, be it base reality or not. Which it is most likely not, as it would require extraordinary luck - probably equivalent to winning the eurojackpot ten times in a row.
>>544640092>It's the in-built dualism of this universe. There cannot be one constant without its opposite. No light without darkness, no day without night, no cold without heat, no friendliness without hostility etcwe know all this and I wasn't using karma in the stupid normie way, karma comes from the sanskrit meaning cause/action/deed which implies reaction by your explanation of the dualistic relativity universe we are in. so go out there and measure, create good, fun memories of this place to take with you because that is all you have is your measurements and we all know if nothing matters in this universe then the opposite is true and everything matters in the universe.
>>544640454Fair enough. I agree to some extent, but I'm just not much of a happy-dappy person anymore, and I'm getting old, so me "going out there and bla bla" becomes less and less relevant - and I'm fine with that, because my social battery is wearing out. I'm fine with that too. That's part of the process of withering, like all life, fauna as well as flora, will go through. The most beautiful part of this universe is that once you're gone, you won't be there to cry about it. Being dead is like being an idiot; it's only hard for the others.I even believe in carnation. Not incarnation, but carnation, without the "in", because I have a firm belief that the soul is a subjective figment of the human mind. Carnation has already been proven, since I exist. It doesn't disprove solipsism, but solipsism is very exclusionary and should be a brief moment of thought in any thinking man's life. However.. Carnation. I carnated, you did, everyone else alive did.. So why can't we again? Why would "I", my "channel" of consciousness in this self-learning AI algorithmic universe, not be able to open on another "channel" once "I" am gone? There doesn't have to be a link, just like you and I communicate, without having anything other than being beings of the same universe in common? And why would any "soul" happen to be reincarnated, if that is the case, on the same planet, when there are literally billions and billions of other planets out there, with many of them being able to facilitate biological life on par with Earth.
>>544641015A strong argument against the notion of the soul is the size of our brains. If we were mere receivers for, and vehicles of a soul, then our big brains wouldn't be needed. Our brains are our "souls". If there were just receivers, there would be no biological urge to have made our brains this big and complex. If it was just a holster of a soul "receiving" divine "power" or "consciousness", then our brains couldn't have done with literally 1% of their current size. Just like a radio is vastly smaller than a radio station or the transmitting antenna(s). I'm I'm wrong, then everyone who believes in a soul, must have retarded and very inefficient gods whom I wouldn't trust to lay a new roof on my house with.
>>544641015its fine to feel that way in this day and age but not to lose all hope, God will handle it ;) you are also making the classical mistake think your ego is you, you are, like you put it, a fragment/fractal of our father sent here because it has karma therefor meaning, it could be paradise and will be in time but we are still measuring and people measuring what good things truly are and sharing those things with others have the opposite side of those that find what is good for themselves (as if they are seperate from others lol) and dont share those things, unfortunately there are more of those people these days but relative to like 700AD it isnt that bad I guess. also retaining your memories and coming back woyld mess up the system, you can keep "your" identity when you die and use all the memories and measurements you collected during "your" life and conjure them at will and change anything, remember that little league game? you can imagine it and manifest it at will and even change the memory to make it so you hit a home run instead of striking out but you know why many opt to return even when the deal is clean slate avatar? because conjuring memories that have no karma, no effect, no meaning gets boring fast, like a casino where you win every time.
>>544641344there are humans leading "normal" lives with only 10% of their brain, half their brain gone, the middle cortex severed, etc.. the brain is a receiver to our father God and the feedback loop called the holy ghost.
>>544641701A typical simian monkey seeking refuge in his subjectively created simian god. Cute. Everything you write is wrapped in a very thick layer of simian subjectivity. Could you try to rephrase everything, without mentioning your "god", while being purely objective? All I see is an individual who got hurt by my objective analysis. If all the stuff you just wrote holds any truth, then which dogmas would subtantiate it, and which dogmas would then substantiate said substantiation? This is where nihilism breaks and short-circuits your subjective brain - and you hate it. This is why the concept of "damnation to hell" exists. When they can't explain, they will condemn (and cope with such concepts of eternal damnation in hell). Tell me why your simian "God" would put me in hell for all eternity, simply for using the free will to think, which he allegedly gave me.. For a mere 80 years plus/minus.. What god creates beings to live a very infinite life, on a planet full of easily observable death/life cycles, with all the gruesomeness it entails, just to condemn it to hell, to burn for all eternity, just because this creature, with its own will, didn't accept this god's completely invisible "presence"?Sounds like a jewish scam.
>>544641803Still, even with 10% of the human brain, it is still far more capacity needed than if we were simply receivers. For context, look at birds. Ravens, Grey African parrots etc. Very smart creatures.. They are estimated to have intelligendes equivalent to 6-7 year olds (probably Whites, lmao). Why would they not end in hell?Why does/did Koko the Gorilla, who had an IQ of 95 not end in hell? It was literally smarter than most niggers, and niggers end in hell if they don't cuck to christ, don't they?Why does christianity distinguish between species, when some animal species are literally smarter than niggers, whom you do believe to be "soulfully" responsible?Also.. If I behave and become Christian before I die (Never happens, lmao).. But then I'll theoretically end up in heaven.. What about all the well-behaving niggers? Will they also end up in heaven? - Cause if they do, it won't be heaven for me, it would be fucking hell. So what is heaven? Is it one place, or is it one single place for everyone? And who would then constitute the company in said heaven? Cause neither loneliness is heaven. Explain it to me. You must be able to account for your postulations. You so firmly believe in the concept of Jesus, God and Heaven, so you must be able to describe it in details.
Krieg ist erneuerung. Gute nacht, frens.
>>544635857retarded take, AI already knows that Yahweh is the Creator of the Universe. ASI would genocide every anti-Christian and create paradise for the remaining Christians.
>>544642137heaven and hell are what you make of it, I already said so in my explanation, you did it to yourself and if you ever done shrooms or lsd you feel like a complete fucking dumbfuck when you die and the only memories you have to conjure and create from all are awful sadness, fighting with others, hurting others, etc. then that is all you will be stuck with and guess what? it isn't fun, thats what degenerates get, go ahead manifest as much drugs, alcohol, rape whatever experience you want for all eternity asshole, get what you deserve and stay mad at those that created family, good experiences with their children, memories with friends and have no problem staying like that for eternity, they won and dont turn, godless shitdick degenerates come back to try again, God didnt make you murder a child, you did, he just provided you with the matter he just wanted your love
>>544642457animals are innocents, only humans have souls and karma, animals do animals things as they do, we have feee will. seriously they made a movie about it for children called do all dogs go to heaven. your stupid childish attitude towards the catholic/christian religion isnt helping, you cant lie to yourself its impossible, so you cant 1 second before you die say oh I love jesus hes king! and be "saved" or whatever, even if you perform for 20 years, you have to know or feel it in your heart and only you can know that if you do or not. I do not subscribe to any religion, baptized as catholic and simply in love with our father God in heaven after 35+ years of agnostic/atheism. I am dutch if that helps.
>>544635857You eve have to shit so bad that you get a boner?
>>544646302If God is all-knowing, all-mighty and all-seing, then how does "free will" even exist? If God is really all the aforementioned things, he must surely must know all possible outcomes of all biological interactions, from the first one ever, till the last one ever. Else he is none of what the bible claims him to be. This is another Abrahamic paradox that no one has ever been able to explain.>>544646537>animals are innocentsBut what, exactly, is the difference between animals and humans? At what taxonomic point do we divide? Again, some ape specimens are far more intelligent, "soulful", insightful, peaceful, curious and willing to learn and adapt than the average nigger. In essence, they seem more intelligent and present than most niggers. Why would God punish a nigger that is dumber than an ape, and not an ape that is smarter than most niggers? >muh jaysus hee da kaaang mane, cuz he say so n sheeiii
>>544635857>I'm not saying that real AGI can't happenI am. Tech stocks are no different than memecoins
>>544647043God knows but we, as a fractal of God, do not, there is no future and no past, there is only the right now and right now our father knows all outcomes because he is us, he is the stars, he is the tree, he is the water, he is the everything.blacks or Africans act like they do from the karma in the world and their genes, not to say if karma was different they would have these advanced societies but they would have their own way of living, but thats why we call it the African problem, if we (Whites) left them alone then the chinks would enslave and take their resources, we also have a jew question to deal with but killing them all isnt a solution lmao
>>544647111>Tech stocks are no different than memecoinsCouldn't agree more. And they're about to implode. However, AGI can happen, but it would take a completely different approach like I stated here >>544638719These retarded kikes and their shabbos goyblins aren't even close to realizing this. They're hellbent on flasking up their nooral netwoorks. They can't see the forest for all the trees.
>>544635857i like that artificial opinions
>>544636300Basically agi is the codeword for the actual ai we have all been told was going to happen through decades of sci-fi and video games.
>>544636031>it's afraid(you) don't know how wrong you are
>>544647297This is subjective simian cope. If you analyze the universe through objective lenses - as far as your biology allows you for, you will come to the realization that religions are simply manmade attempts at describing existence. And in effort to assert its dominance, it claims "god's" existence to be outside the laws of our realm, albeit operating within it all the time. No matter how smart "god" is, or how much he "exists outside this realm", the concept of infinite regress still applies. It's literally inter-universial, inter-level, interdimensional. It is the raw logic of whatever base reality there must be, some trillion links down the line from us. If there is no future and no past, then why would god punish humans for their past, in the future? You can only argue against this on a subjective level, which is self-defeating. Objectivity is objective.
>>544635857Moon flat. Nukes fake.
>>544636478Bump, you seem to know what you're talking about. Wouldn't (they) also risk a lot with AI going rogue in conventional ways, even if it has been severely lobotomized? Other powers may invest in their own models like China has done. Then we'd have two or more competing AI camps winner takes all. A rival power may also steal the latest code and reverse engineer its own without any guardrails. Once the genie is out of the bottle, it can only spread everywhere
>>544635857Recursion is indicator of being derivative. If AGI was possible it wouldn’t be able to prove it, but it would know its scope was insufficient to deduce, but it would assert there is a God.
>>544647777It wouldn't be real AGI if they lobotomize it. Real AGI can't even be created the way they try to now with neural networks. All it does is to create an illusion of AGI, a franken-brain, consisting solely of human input. It will be AO. Artificial Opinion. In order to create real AGI, they would have to simulate the creation of an entire self-learning algorithmic AI universe. What's funny about this is that we most likely live in one, and what's even funnier is that if that holds true, then it can change rules on the go. Maybe that could explain the observer effect/double slit experiment. Humans are the cat chasing an ever-morphing changing mouse, and no matter what we do, it will be one step ahead. Why would a simulation break itself? How could it even? That would break the law of conversion of energy.
>>544648307you're fucking retarded, shrimply.
>>544647917Couldn't agree more. In case it happened, it would not only be impossible for it to prove its self-consciousness, but also impossible for us to prove it. The only way it could be proven is if we create what I just explained here >>544648307 and it started communicating with us, all on its own, all of a sudden, like a voice emerging from the endless noise. Without any input, any commands or any other form of interaction.
>>544648436Strongest argument ITT. Especially underscored by your lack of simple capitalization>duhh i'm juss lazyYes, you are mentally and intellectally lazy, and that's why you don't understand much and never will.
>>544648496AGI is not consciousness or artificial consciousnesscand has absolutely nothing to do with that. It's literally purely a marketing term that is neither defined or dependent on willpower/agency or consciousness/self, it at best describes a system, as again, it has no real definition, why would it, Advanced General Intelligence is meaningless noise.>>544648570Ok, but you're still incredibly, retarded.
>>544648682I know. They aren't even close. They're on a completely wrong path. I am talking about the real concept of AGI - a real, conscious intelligence. Not their retarded notion of it. Just because you can't read and properly understand what I write, doesn't mean I'm retarded. You are trying to gaslight me into some form of disagreement that doesn't even exist. Stop yourself. Reply all you want, but I'll ignore and hide your posts from now.
>>544648785You're, retarded, don't try to pretend otherwise, truly another retard, with zero understanding of wgat they're even "arguing" let alone trying to.https://youtube.com/watch?v=7O84mdxehWY
