Redpill me on Ukrainian cultural identity in Alberta Canada.
>>544639235lolwut
Those Ukrainians need to go back to Ukraine right now so they can die for jewish blood rituals
>>544639235It's fake and gay. There are no hyphenated white Canadians past the second generation. They're just Anglophone mutts now.
>>544639235You should see all the Finns in Northern Ontario.
>>544639235Amerimutt spies are everywhere, just shoot them with lead pesticide and they go away.
It was barely 20 years ago Canada deported Ernst Zündel. Ukrainians have a monument to Roman Shukhevych in Edmonton.
It was only 2021 when protesters knocked over a statue of the Queen.
>>544639364>>544639235Most of the ukrainian diaspora is russified anyway if they left before 2022. It used to only be western Ukraine that natively spoke Ukrainian and were huge nationalists about it until the war. I grew up in Sheapshead Bay brooklyn, with a huge post soviet diaspora. All the Ukrainians I knew were indistinguishable from the russian diaspora and some considered themselves russian. All got along with russians and vice versa. When I found out a war broke out in Eastern Ukraine 2014 I was shocked because I never saw any signs of a war between those peoples.
>>544639713Why is it always the people you expect 'protesting', and not asking the real questions like "Where are the bones?".
>>544639235Imbecile everywhere right across the fucking country they don't understand a thing and they refuse to listen to a different narrative. It's like during covid. The same people who went for four five six seven eight jab injections are the same idiots who squeal they have long covid. A lot of leafs are fucking idiots.
In the early 20th century there was a shit ton of Ukrainian settlers in central to northern Alberta. A lot ended up being the majority demographic in their communities. They're descendants have this half-assed Ukrainian cultural tendencies that usually revolve around their grandmother's perogie recipe.It's the same as people who say theyre "Italian" with 1/8ths ancestry, but somehow more insufferable.
>>544639235During the western expansion, Canada invited Ukrainians to farm in Alberta due to the black soil being very similar to what they were used to.
>>544639235US has them toohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sts._Volodymyr_and_Olha_Ukrainian_Catholic_Church>Sts. Volodymyr and Olha Church is a Ukrainian Greek Catholic parish church in Chicago, US.>Sts. Volodymyr and Olha Ukrainian Catholic Parish in Chicago was founded in 1969 by Patriarch Josyf Slipyj and the bishop of the Eparchy of Chicago, Yaroslav Gabro. Among the reasons for establishing this distinct parish was the desire to preserve and faithfully adhere to the traditions of the Ukrainian Church and support members of the parish by giving a variety of community organizations use of the space. [1] The elements contributing to the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church's distinctiveness within the Catholic Church are the Julian Calendar, the Byzantine Rite in the Ukrainian recension, as well as a rich ethnic spiritual heritage.
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>>544640703>church with flags
>>544640730https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Joseph_the_Betrothed_Ukrainian_Greek_Catholic_Church>St. Joseph the Betrothed Ukrainian Greek-Catholic Church is a Ukrainian church located in Chicago and belonging to the St. Nicholas Eparchy for the Ukrainian Catholics. The building has an ultra-modern roof, comprising thirteen gold domes which symbolize the twelve apostles and Jesus Christ as the largest center dome.>In August 1956, Archbishop Constantine Bohachevsky appointed Fr. Joseph Shary to organize a new community. The first two Liturgies were celebrated at St. Patrick's High School Auditorium, with the first church being built at its current location. This building stands north of the current church building and is used as a Parish Life Center that houses offices, classrooms, and a hall. It is also home to the Selfreliance Ukrainian American Federal Credit Union's northwest branch.>As the community expanded, Fr. Shary realized the parish needed a larger facility. He saw this as an opportunity to build what he termed a church for "The Glory of God and Future Generations." The church, designed by architect Zenon Mazurkevich of Philadelphia and constructed by Walter Bratkiv of REM Builders, Inc., was dedicated and consecrated by Bishop Jaroslav Gabro on May 22, 1977.>The history of St. Joseph begins with Bishop Constantine Bohachevsky, Metropolitan of the Ukrainian Archeparchy of Philadelphia officially establishing St. Joseph Ukrainian Catholic Church on August 1, 1956. Father Joseph Shary was sent here as the organizing pastor, who upon his arrival in Chicago was met with an energetic group of Ukrainian Catholics anxious to expand the Chicago Ukrainian religious community into the Northwest Side.
>>544640979https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Josaphat_Ukrainian_Catholic_Cathedral_(Parma,_Ohio)>St. Josaphat Ukrainian Catholic Cathedral is a Ukrainian Catholic cathedral located in Parma, Ohio, in the United States. The cathedral grew out of a parochial school which opened in 1951 and a parish erected in 1959. Construction on the cathedral began in 1982, and was completed in 1985. It was dedicated in 1988, the thousand-year anniversary of the arrival of Christianity in Ukraine. The cathedral is the seat for the Ukrainian Catholic Eparchy of Saint Josaphat in Parma, which was erected in 1983 during construction of the building.
>>544640843If only more had national flags and not faggot flags. Catholics and unlimited shitskins and protties with faggot flags seems the standard. Problem is a lot of our Ukies are descendants of Bolsheviks that ran from Stalin. The ones that left after the fall of the Romanovs are fine.
>>544640979>>544641088wtf is ukranian catholic
>>544640249This is correct. My grandma made good cabbage rolls, if there is such a thing. Stinky/10
>>544641088many don't even have Wikipedia pages. this one is in Los Angeles (Saint Andrew Ukrainian Orthodox Church of Los Angeles)
>>544641509Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary Ukrainian Catholic Church in Miami, Florida
Are Ukro-Abert-Cancucks voting for sovereignty?
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>>544639905>It used to only be western Ukraine that natively spoke UkrainianThat's where a lot of the original immigrants are from. That's why so many of them are Greek Catholics. IIRC Edmonton is the most Greek-Catholic city outside of Europe.
>>544641622so I guess my point is, if you want to know about Ukrainian-Canadians, first look into Ukrainian-Americans and why they built all these amazing churches nobody gives a shit about.
>>544640156Just curious but you went from being very pro-Trump on here to shitting all over Trump with your images. What happened?
>>544641835>why they built all these amazing churches nobody gives a shit about.There might have been a demographic collapse relatively recently. My grandmother was Czech and in the early 90s I remember there were still enough people from the old country that spoke Czech and they had their own club. Today the same place is a Mexican neighborhood so its hard to imagine it was different a generation ago.
>>544642029People integrated and dispersed. North America is the great cultural homogenizer. Incidentally northern Alberta sucks and the land they had them settle was usually the shittiest of frozen muskeg.
>>544639905>When I found out a war broke out in Eastern Ukraine 2014 I was shocked because I never saw any signs of a war between those peoples.And after 2022?
>>544642029another theory is that the US government funded them as some anti-communist thing, probably related to the Holodomor. to keep their identity and memory alive. not realising most Ukrainians identified as Russian or Polish so nobody attended them, or a demographic collapse was inevitable if the identity is already so shaky leading to the current day war.
>>544642029Was this in South Omaha by any chance?
>>544642145There are lots of weird Asian churchs in Los Angeles with no congregation ever. I always thought it was some kind of tax scam. I do know of one that was bragging about getting money to stir up trouble with Muslims in Indonesia.
>>544642238Chicago
>>544639235Literally tens of millions of ukrainians have fled their country for the west. My suburb is fucking swamped with them now. Some of the foids are nice to look at but they are very low-class people.
>>544642452I've only seen a few. Do they work?
>>544642668Not sure, it depends on their status. My wife befriended one whose husband worked as a truck driver, which I'm pretty sure was illegal and under the table.
>>544642452call ICE
>>544639905this. i know russians/ukrainians from that part of brooklyn and there is literally no difference between ukrainian and russian. an artificial border
>>544640843at least it's not israel flag like protestants fly. my church had us and vatican flags
>>544639235it doesn't exist. ukrainians inherently know they are an inferior race so after one generation it is merely a last name origin story. they are not like balkanites or even poles, who have something to be proud of and want to upkeep their culture.
>>544642891The ukraine is a made up country, just like Belgium. It’s a hodgepodge of poles, Russians, tartars, slavs, whatever, that got even further smooshed up during the Soviet era via forced migrations.
>>544642814They've displaced a bunch of Mexicans so honestly I have no complaints.
>>544642452my neighborhood has a good number too and i've never had an issue. mostly women with young kids
>>544643031never interacted with mexicans but they surely can't be worse than hohols
>>544643021This is true, but it's why putin is even more of a kike for starting a pointless war with russia's identical twins over some commie blocks and fields.
>>544639235A lot of them came into the country to settle in the prairies prior to WW2. They started forming communal aid groups and whatnot which caused the government to be worried about socialism so after WW2 they deliberately imported Ukrainian nationalists / Nazis / ex-SS to "counterbalance" the left-wing tendencies of the existing population. This culminated in the 1950 bombing of a Ukrainian "labour temple" in Toronto but eventually things settled down.I knew an old lady who was a kid when the Nazis occupied Ukraine; she and her family actually followed the Wehrmacht as they retreated back to Germany and eventually ended up in Canada. She always considered herself Russian, but her grandchildren are more on the "Slava Ukraini" side of things.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desch%C3%AAnes_Commissionhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaroslav_Hunka_scandalhttps://www.blogto.com/city/2023/10/300-bathurst-bombing-shook-torontos-ukrainian-community/
>>544643131I dunno, it’s complicated. The Donbas is Russian because the Soviets made it that way. If they want to speak Russian instead of Ukrainian why shouldn’t they be allowed to? I refuse to pick a side, I just wish they’d stop murdering each other.
>>544643159the canadian gov actively recruited from the russian empire to settle the prairies due to fear of the us pushing into canadian prairies. with settlement they figured their control/claim over the land would be more established
>>544643032Yeah it's minor things like they let extremely young kids wander around by themselves, and the older kids end up littering and doodling their graffiti on things.>>544643077Mexicans are way worse in every aspect except the older people will do menial jobs for slave wages. And as much as I hate the kike of kiev the ones who came here are indistinguishable from russians.
>>544639235They formed clusters in certain regions due to policies as described by >>544640362. They didn't integrate into generalized white Canadian identity as well as other non-Brit Europeans, partly due to their relatively latecomer status, but mostly because a lot of them practised Eastern Orthodox faith (unlike, for example, our post WWII Italians who eventually folded into preexisting Catholic communities). This separateness allowed them to hold onto grievances from The Old Country harder than most, and so they're openly nationalist in a way that other white Canadians aren't able to be. As you can imagine, this has been exacerbated to a ridiculous degree by the war.Some of the less political ones are decent folks, but like every other unintegrated minority, the rest are perfectly happy to drag us into their regional ethnic conflict regardless of how long their families have lived here and whether there's any strategic benefit to actual Canadians.A great example of the worst of our Prairie hohols is Trudeau's former second in command. She was almost certainly CIA or some other NATO spook asset when she worked as a """journalist""" in Ukraine in her early career and Ukrainian nationalism is her lifelong passion Once Trudeau got turfed and she lost her shot at becoming PM, she almost immediately packed her bags and left for the country she actually gave a shit about.
>>544643227The Donbas literally already had open borders with russia before 2022 and especially before 2014. If a russian from Russia wanted to live in the russian Donbas he could just do that, and vice versa. There was no need to launch a landgrab war between slavs.
>>544643356>just pack up and move your family bro, no biggieI’m sticking with “it’s complicated.” Putin’s a douche but all politicians are. I don’t condone what he did but I can see how he might have felt justified in doing so.
>>544639235If you have watched Yukon Gold all the miners are married to some kind of Ukie - even the Blacks and Indian gold buyers. The are like Polish whores in that they will breed with anyone to escape west.
>>544639235Slavs in Canada just pick up whatever new group identity is 'hot.' Annoying and gay but it helps them get laid and get gibs.
>>544639235You only need one landmark- the vegreville pysankaSupposedly they want to sent it into space.Redpills on the acton house for me and tartaria minor
>>544643459>just pack up and move your family broWhat's the point of annexing land you don't want to live on, genius.
>>544639235It is russian
>>544639235They flee there so they don’t have to be conscripted and die in a trench. I have no problem with that except they should use their time wisely instead of spending it as propaganda mouthpieces all over the internet for the same jew regime that wants to destroy them.
>>544643630I’m done dude, you’re not dragging me into your shit. Eastern Europe is not my fucking problem. My great grandfather was smart/lucky enough to gtfo and that’s good enough for me.
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>>544643330italians in Quebec pretty much integrated into french identity. idk how well they integrated into ontario but ontario is a post national shithole anyways so...
Dumbfuck retards like every single race brought into Canada to colonize the Western part of the country, the pajeets of their time. Kill all non Anglo/Franco/Celtic "Canadians".
>>544640249>It's the same as people who say theyre "Italian" with 1/8ths ancestry, but somehow more insufferable.cope brownoid
>>544639905>Most of the ukrainian diaspora is russified anyway if they left before 2022. It used to only be western Ukraine that natively spoke Ukrainian and were huge nationalists about it until the war.actually even in Central and Eastern Ukraine, Ukrainian is spoken but mostly in the rural regions and that's how it's been historically since Empress Catherine's conquests and russification & colonization (importing Russian speakers into cities & building Russian cities there)according to Russian imperialists in Petersburg (as in, during the Russian Empire) and later the Soviet nomenklatura based in Moscow, the Ukrainian nationality was recognized but was relegated to "country bumpkin" statusthey did the same thing in Belarus to Belarusians and were much more successful there
>>544641974He just calls out all international jewry/freemasons regardless of if they're right or left wing.
>>544639352germany already said they would repatriate these kikes back to ukriane, when does that start for all diaspora?
>>544643769they were the literal settlers though. not immigrants like today. a lot of the russian empire immigrants were not ethnic slav, too. many were of german descent mennonites
>>544643792Sad our language didn't end up like Belarussian. When I talk Polish in public, I feel ashamed. Knowing Russian opens many doors, even in the West.
>>544641974I'm gonna hazard a guess that the very obvious shift to being Israel's bitch is related.
>>544639592>>544643740>>544639592THese are based ukraryans are one of my favorite immigrants
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>>544644089hohols that arrived during WW2 were all banderites for obvious reasons they were running from soviet troops who would trial them for mutiny.
JFG banned me from his discord a while ago when I asked him about Ukrainian nazis in Canada. The guy lives in Alberta now.
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>>544644196Did he complete the meme and dwell nearby lac la biche?
>>544644089lmfao i know that spot i think me and my friends go drink and smoke weed up there and watch the highway go by. very nice tho i cant say im big into the NAZI LARP i will continue to support ukraine.
>>544643756>idk how well they integrated into ontario The Southern Italians seem to have held together a little more tightly than the Northerners (you can still see distinctly Italian marriage/confirmation/birth announcements in Catholic newsletters) but from the few times I've visited Toronto, Italian neighbourhoods and de facto Italian churches seem to have been broken up and scattered by subsequent waves of other immigration. And there's basically no cohesive Italian community in AB.
>544644271>its not me>i know that place and its coolWhat is it with gays and their big fish stories?
>>544644346im northern italian and have family in canada. it's very easy for us to blend into default english speaking white identity. i look no different from average white guy in north carolina. anglicize the surname and that's it.
>>544644238canada is UK colony what did you expect. All the terrorist somehow end up living in the west at the end of their violent carrier.
>>544643330>She was almost certainly CIA or some other NATO spook asset when she worked as a """journalist""" in Ukraine in her early career
>>544644476US does similar. Washington went out of its way to befriend Somalia. Racists Timmies will never question foreign policy. >uh can't we keep bombing them and just build a bigger wall until the god rapture?
>>544644152>>544644476Stupid burgers o algo
>>544644089Yup I was just complaining about ukraonians and their fucking graffiti. Low class behavior
>>544644476Yes. It is the city of London, Vatican, papal dynasty families, black nobility families, knights of malta, order of the garter, Fabian society...Russia is also taken, no such thing as America vs BRICS. Just outer rings fighting here and there but inner rings are all under control.For example, Savoy (Savoia) dynasty has big control of Russian mafia, including the government and Putin (pic related).Watch this masterclass of video. And...4chan and this Jew hatred is all a psyop to hide who are the people in control...the dynasty who has been in control for millennia now.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCgAgDxkbZ4&t=3s
>>544642145>most Ukrainians identified as Russian or Polishthat's a blatant lie. >nobody attended themyou don't know what you're talking about. Those churches were built on the Ukrainian community donation ONLY. >the identity is already so shakyyou've never been to Ukrainian festival or a function, have you? https://ukrainianfestival.com/
>>544642452>they are very low-class people.kek, as if you're the cream of the crop yourself?
>>544643077did Ukrainians piss and shit in your lift, pidrila?
Amerimutts who hate ukraine have literally no reason to they just mumble some bullshit about muh gas prices or muh tax money which they were never gonna see used to improve their lives.
>>544639235A bunch of OUN diaspora.And an older diaspora of people who were "Russian" when they immigrate to Canada, and then 20-30 years later decided they were "Ukrainian" after successful pamphleteering by Ukrainian nationalists. "Ukraine" is fake and gay. It's just west Russia
>>544645082I'm upper middle class but like to slum it a bit as well.
>>544645219>Let me tell you which european people exist Mutt did the meme
>>544645210Go back to your containment thread troon. Ukrainian people can be nice but there is a lot to dislike about the country.
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>>544645320>Go back to your containment thread troon.Idk if you live under a rock faggot but its troons and communists supporting russia. Go dilate and kvetch about it saar.
>>544644152>banderites ... trial them for mutinywhy are you so retarded, pidrila? The vast majority of them were never citizens of the USSR, why would they be convicted of treason, if they never swore any allegiance to the soviet state?
>>544645417I’m sure the post war Stalinist government of the day would take your argument into careful consideration before chucking you in the gulag.
>>544645417>you have to swear allegiance to a country to be a citizenLmao you and reality are just miles apart.
>>544645238>I'm upper middle classhighly doubtful that you're a cultured individual
>>544645320>there is a lot to dislike about the countrywhat do you even know about the country?
>>544645303My own ancestors came from Little Russia before "Ukraine" was invented by Lenin. The vast majority of people from what's now called "Ukraine" called themselves Russian before the Judeo-Bolshevik Revolution.How do you like not being allowed to own and carry a pistol, Leaf? You can't even save your loved one from getting raped up the ass by some nigger/pajeet/arab/savage. You're a weakling cuckold with a government that is replacing whites with pajeets. How does it feel to be a complete faggot with semen across your face and dripping from your ruptured asshole? I prefer America. You wish you lived here. Enjoy dying on a medical waiting list.
>Stalin was so strict. >Ukrononazis still existed after the collapse. Pick one.
>>544644999>most Ukrainians identified as Russian or PolishThey did because they came over before Soviet Indigenization and the OUN. This is a fact. Russians were turned into "Ukrainians" in the 1920s through the 1940s.
>>544645543I pour my High Life into a glass before consuming it, and rarely drink more than a six pack of tall boys in an evening.>>544645576As an amateur historian, it would take a long time to recite everything. You can access my articles as premium content on my substack if you are interested in learning more.
>>544644999>you've never been to Ukrainian festival or a function, have you?All this shit is fake and gay. A bunch of Russians LARPing as something else. Ukrainianism is political campaign. It's just a movement to invent a nationality that can get gibbs from western governments.
>>544645511>your land is occupied by the soviets for 1.5 years, while under the occupation they persecute your priests, intelligentsia, deport and murder tens of thousands, get kicked out by the Germans -- but you owe the soviet regime some allegiance.why would they owe the soviet regime some allegiance, which is a condition of being tried and convicted of treason?
>>544643904i shouldnt respond to a memeflag but i will and i will do it unironicallyi actually believe the russian language is either a side effect of the mongol conquest, bastardization & devolution, or deliberately engineered, to make its native speakers dumberin the vein of the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis where language shapes consciousness and modes of thinkingRussian is a very "dumb" language that instills primitive thinking into its native speakers (and i believe into L2 speakers to a degree too). it's very "sing-songy" and not in the sense of sounding melodious but in the sense of eradicating rational and logical freethinking in individuals, forcing them into collectivist modes of thinking and eradicating individualitysimilar to the Chinese tradition of reciting rotes. Russian speakers are less capable of forming their own ideas using their language as a tool of expression and more beholden to a sort of automatism of speech & thinking. everything is "simple" like in Orwellian newspeak and any possible conclusions are ingrained into the various phrases and lead to one point - fatalism and submission to the tsaarthis is reinforced by specific proverbs like>think or dont think, a tsar you won't be>the quieter you are, the farther you will get
>>544645754>As an amateur historianLMAO! so you don't know anything of what you're talking about. Can you even read Ukrainian?
>>544645791>swear allegiance or we chuck you into the gulag Sneed
>>544639905>>544639364So there are Ukrainians in Canada that apparently fled from pogroms.Are they jewish?Or is it a lie to gain admission to North America, like in that movie War Dogs where they lied about being jewish to immigrate to the US?
>>544645696Its kind of funny because when you watch Cold War era movies anyone east of the Berlin Wall was called a Russian. It was like a synonymy for commie. There were Ukrainians or Latvians.
>>544645773retard opinion discarded
I'm sure there's a substantial group of Ukrainian OnlyFans immigrant whore reprobates desperately trying to find subscribers.It really wouldn't surprise me that there will exist in the near future a "Union" of sorts for Onlyfans "social media influencers" and other assorted whores.
>>544645861weren't*
>>544645791Oh lord it's like a Sovereign Citizen and a nafoid had a baby lmao.
>>544644089Based Canada.Canada is pro-Palestine and pro-Ukraine.This is why Zionists want to invade it.Anyways, why are Zionists so hateful towards Ukraine?
Like all the pro-Zionist MAGA twitter accounts are vehemently pro-israel and anti-Ukraine. Pretty sure they are all Hasbara israel accounts.But why they hate Ukraine so much?I guess israel and Ukraine are in opposition.
>>544645850> Can you even read Ukrainian?Just substitute every 'i' with an 'ee' and it's literally just elementary grade Russian.
>>544645851>swear allegiance or we chuck you into the gulagthey didn't have enough resources to go door to door to enforce that during the 1.5 years of the occupation of Western Ukraine. There weren't even enforceable borders at that time, locals could move between countries over the mountains and forests. The UPA resisted the soviets and conducted the guerilla fighting for 9 whole years after the end of WW2.
>>544645861>Cold War era moviesis that what informs your opinions about the real state of things during that period?
>>544646109After which they force displaced people into and out of the area and chucked a bunch into the gulags. What’s your point?
>>544646109>The UPA resisted the soviets and conducted the guerilla fighting for 9 whole years after the end of WW2.Yes and all the dead enders were killed and everyone born in the Ukrainian SSR was a soviet citizen, regardless if they liked it or not. That's called reality son.
>>544645917that amateurish world view is really showing.
>>544646190I can never forgive the Russians for what they did Patrick Swayze.
>>544646028kek, what are the substitution for "Ї" and "Є"?
>>544644196did they found his wife/mother of their child?
>>544646260>everyone born in the Ukrainian SSR was a soviet citizenretard, the vast majority of the UPA weren't born in the Ukrainian SSR, they were born when those parts were under Austro-Hungarian, Polish, Czechoslovak and Romanian administrations. The soviets first came there in 1939.
>>544646348йи and E are close enough respectively.>>544646525Are you just being obstuse? What is the point of trying to point out that people were born with a different citizenship?They all either died, fled, or accepted reality, and everyone born in the Ukrainian SSR was a soviet citizen.
