I'm talking about the great filter, of course.Let's start with what a "filter" even is, then we'll go into the GREAT filter. Filters are evolutionary hurdles that, should a species fail to adapt to, will cause their extinction. 99.99% of every species that has ever existed has been filtered by these lower filters. Evolutionary hurdles.What evolutionary hurdle is it supposed to present? Intelligence. Let me explain it like this: the world is going to explode in X amount of years. In order to find a solution to get the fuck off that planet requires Y level of intelligence. 99.99% of people are at most, midwits, at worst functionally retarded. The ONLY people who can truly solve the above problem are functional geniuses. There is a threshold that must be met before someone can be considered a genius and also for them to be capable of master works.There are 4 classes of "human". The genius class. Then the morons, midwits, and manipulators. It is these 3 groups the genius must overcome before he can survive the great filter, mankind itself. The morons just simply destroy and kill. How can any great works or great inventors survive a society of violent savages? The manipulators will pull the genius away from his important work for trivial things. They'll force him into a meaningless social game, parasitizing him. Then the midwits, perhaps the most insidious of the three. Without them the geniuses could readily and efficiently shrug off the savages and parasites. The midwits douse his ambition, diminishing his efforts until it becomes folly. They're just smart enough, just sociable enough, that the genius falsely assumes he is in good company, when he is in fact surrounded by crabs in a bucket, snubbing the fire within him.The geniuses capable of escaping exist. But until they are freed from the shackles of this convoluted society, they will never soar. We are the great filter, we must overcome not only ourselves, but those among us.
>>544653357the final blackpill is humanity isn't worth elevating or saving
>>544653357but what makes it funny is the crude deliberate meaning nestled inside an otherwise innocent sign; like finding a knot in a perfectly straight piece of lumber. The surface clean and polished, but underneath lies a much filthier grain.unbelievably, they snuck that into a major syndicated television program in the early/mid-nineties—right there on the storefront, hiding in plain sight; right there!
>>544653450I love the copes for this pic>it's a MIGGER>n-no it's a CATHOLICnope, just a jewagain
>>544653357I’d wager it’s actually technology in a similar way as genetics. Technology is what facilitates our intelligence. Like memes are similar to genes, technology propagates itself with adaptability. You can’t uninvent the wheel. You can’t uninvent the wojak. Our body is technology for consciousness which could be similar or adjoining to intelligence. It does enough to the point where technology has momentum to grow on its own, like it’s doing now with SI and robotics, soon it will keep growing in ways we can’t imagine.
>>544653444>>544653450The manipulators are quick. But it won't be enough. The geniuses will survive your kind, they will escape beyond your reach and watch as you are consumed by your own sin.
>>544653523>your kindoh fuck off midwit
>>544653523Geniuses? You mean filthy rich geriatrics who don’t know how to change a tire and will inevitably die without their immigrant servants
>>544653523>not checking tr ips effectively agreeing with you cause midwittery made you misinterpretpoetic butthurt
>>544653509>You can’t uninvent the wheel.YOU don't have to, the violent morons (niggers) will do that for you. Look what they did to Egypt, Rhodesia, what they're doing now. It WILL be uninvented because they'll kill everyone capable of even building it. Genetics begets technology, not the other way around.
>>544653611No, the intelligent white people who are capable of great works AND recognizing social cancers. ie the actual master race.>>544653612When I hear "Humanity" I think of good white people. I don't consider niggers and kikes as "human", they are in fact anti/counter-human.
>>544653687>good white people.so, effectively like what; 20% anymore?
chatgpt what's 20% of like 900,000,000
and that's a generous estimate, too, of both global pop %age and "good peoples" %age
>>544653616Well yeah they’re subhuman animals. Genetics don’t propagate in a safe environment. You don’t see niggers destroying google infrastructure currently. Could it happen? Possibly. Is it happening? No, so if we focus on reality, like the body has an immune system constantly fighting off pathogens, technology is facing these adversities, while also being like a child that’s learning how to walk. Imagine when AI robotics gets to a point of planetary swarm surveillance, having a mix of satellites drones robots nanotech all part of a connected autonomous network. That’s the momentum it’s headed to, and that’s just what we can imagine, not when it breaks aspects of physics biology even psychology. We just don’t know yet.
>>544653705Fewer than that. I'd wager no more than 100 million good whites exist. Whatever the statistics say is absolutely wrong. There are fewer whites that they're letting on, a number of even those are low grades and no better than shitskins. The whites that survive into the next century will have no uncertainly about the underling question.
>>544653357>What does it mean in plain terms?Very little, as far as I can tell. >Counterproductive people can impede the work of productive people.You could've just said that. When put more simply it's more obviously pointless.
>>544653798and it's simply going to keep on declining, those numbers; and more and more and more vid rel will become the normwe are on the whole a failed species whose negative aspects far outweigh any good, on average, and it is not going to improve, that situationhence>>544653444>the final blackpill is humanity isn't worth elevating or saving
>>544653866>more and more vid rel will become the normmy bad
>>544653444>>544653866>>544653888nobody fucking checks numbers anymore, unless they agree with the post; heathens, the fucking lot of you
>>544653739Our current level of technology is sustained by a very intricate grid of logistics. Should that ever break down it would take decades to ever recover to a level even resembling what exists currently. Furthermore, if niggers truly do take over in sheer numbers, then there won't even be anyone left who can build or maintain such systems.
>>544653357https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQo5tqwAwgE
>>544653357I'm sure you consider yourself a genius of course.
>>544654093Yeah i do.
>>544653802It helps to be specific about who the counterproductive elements are. Try to understand that I think in terms of white people. I don't immediately think of niggers unless you specify that it's niggers. I do not want my pleasant thoughts invaded by a shitskin monkey. I assume others have similar thought processes so it is necessary to specify NIGGERS to exclaim a variation from the standard thinking, otherwise they might miss the point.>>544653866>>544653888Unless an army of geniuses rises up and slaughters them all. I'm not even talking about the 0.000000001% of god tier brains. Just normal white men who are quite capable of incredible things that any nigger would consider magic.That is the only way out of this. White revolution and TND. Otherwise you will be FILTERED.The whole premise of the great filter is "do the people worth a damn have enough willpower to crush the underlings and use their bones to build the stairway to the cosmos"/
>>544654121Oh yeah? Say something profound right now.
>>544654093In comparison to the 95% of the world consisting of shitskins and women, absolutely. I'm among the elite few, even among white men, who can do electricity voodoo.
>>544654192All niggers must fucking hang.
>>544654246Whoa!
>>544654159If you're advocating genocide then you could've just said that as well.It's not very original for /pol/. It's better to be concise about these things.
>>544654159>That is the only way out of this.yup, we're fucked
>>544653357Its the mirror, looking back at you, anon.
think about it this way: you know how many intelligent antisemites turn shabbos, after talking to enough fellow antisemites?
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>>544654299The only problem facing white men is their own sympathetic morals making them hesitate and show mercy to the worthless underlings out of pity. If white men hardened their hearts and exterminated as they ought to, as kikes do, this world would be fixed in under a week.>>544654311Nuclear war would put our demographics back to 80% white in an afternoon. After that it's a matter of mopping up before the nigfection can recolonize.
>>544654366I'm of the opinion that they were never on our side to begin with. If they had true conviction as I do then they would never entertain even the idea of serving jews. And stop using their terminology. We're pro-white, they're anti-white. White is synonymous with technology, intelligence, and prosperity. We are the side of good. They are the side of destruction and putrid rottenness. That supersedes all other distinction.
>>544654539>Nuclear war>this is the man currently in charge of the codes, and he's making the "white christian right wing" such a fucking demonized joke the overton window will get slammed harder and further left than it's ever been here before in his wakeand after him, at some point, will be AOC, the first jewish female presidentthey have all the nukes
>>544654539I don't think you're adding much value to the TND meme. You're making it more verbose but none of this is new to me, nor to anyone on this board.
>>544654630>I'm of the opinion that they were never on our side to begin with. If they had true conviction as I do then they would never entertain even the idea of serving jews.one can agree with this and it does all of fuck all for the 'brain drain' issuemost self described 'antisemites' can't even see what they're fucking doing at all, and heatedly deny it if you tell them; they'll believe whatever jews say or stick in front of their faces as obvious bait, if it's what they want to hear
>>544654631That doesn't matter. They already hate us. If anything it'd be better they hate us more, they ought to hate us so much that we're given no choice but to defend ourselves. Turn up the heat on the frogs, force their hand.
>>544654712>Turn up the heat on the frogs, force their hand.they're not THAT stupid, and if they're cockwiping you in the face, it's because they know damn well nothing will happen to themhave to go through all the shabbos and practically the rest of the global population, even antisemites of your own and other races, to even get near them
>>544654679New anons sift through here every day. If all they see is daily slop threads how are they supposed to learn? Those slop threads are there specifically to make sure discussions like this one are buried and no one can make sense of anything.>>544654694So then what do you propose to halt the brain drain of spineless brains? What should pro-whites be doing instead?
>>544653357There is no such thing as a great filter.
>>544654761Go read the pasta. We don't need to exterminate the entire world, we just need to carve a white state somewhere and absolutely forbid any and all shitskins or subversives. Only then will we stand a chance to develop enough to actually wipe them out or simply escape to one of saturns moons. There are plenty of scenarios that result in a win for us.If a war breaks out that takes attention away from us and makes them rip each other apart as they're prone to do then all the better.
>>544654771>what do you proposewhy does everyone imply there's a solution that's just out of their sightif you can't see it, why would you believe in its existence?I've been asking for years now, for logical and realistic solutions to the question, final ones even, and nonebody got nothing but these vague platitudes, or shit that MIGHT have worked by now if you'd started 30 some odd years ago, hell 15 years ago even, but are completely inviable nowespecially since these conversations always take place on the single most jew monitored board on the internet, like it's this safe zone bubble or somethinglike they're not watchingadjusting>SILVER beats the jew and the fed bros invest HEAVILY in SILVER fellow antisemites, no jews can see this so it can't ever possibly be rugpulled at the worst subjective moment for antisemites
>>544654803Care to support your claim? Or rather to disprove mine?
>>544654875>Go read the pasta.>>544654917>these conversations always take place on the single most jew monitored board on the internet, like it's this safe zone bubble or something
>>544654771>New anons sift through here every day.Funny. If it keeps you from killing yourself then I guess I have no objection.
>>544654917I see. I can think of what it will take.
>>544653444>humanity isn't worth elevating or savingWhat does this even mean?Elevated by who? Elevated to what?Saved by who? Saved from what?Seems like you're just vaguely dooming to be hip or edgy. Kinda gay desu
>>544654996now we just need to develop like, mind projection powers or something to coordinate, since all hardware has backdoors, and there's nothing but face to face conversations they can't monitorand now you may be beginning to see how deep the pit we're in actually is
>>544655059>What does this even mean?fairly self explanatory, given the OP it's a reply to; you just seem assmad and fishing for some meaningless BTFOs
>>544654192The chaos even permits your shit talking.You cannot turn that around on me.Also i kinda think it is like magnets it also doesnt make whole lot of sense.The question i have it that attracts more or if that is just insulated.
>>544655110That's more mysterious than profound, but good effort.
>>544653357Suicidal empathy is ours.We have failed it, and unless things drastically change humanity will die on this rock. No other intelligence will ever know we even existed.Mind you, empathy is necessary and a good thing. Empathy for your friends, family, neighbors, those physically close to you.It's the empathy that sees people forgoing those closest to them in favor of faceless dead ends that will see our end.You should NEVER help anyone or anything outside of a radius that you could walk in a day. For most people that's about 20 miles.If everyone only focused on their immediate area, we could see great advances. Many would starve, many would die if we did this.It is absolutely necessary that this is allowed to happen. Either they will prosper and become self sufficient allowing them to join the rest of the world in grand endeavours, or they perish. Either way, humanity benefits.It's a physical location thing, so you can move about. It's not twenty miles from your home..it's twenty miles from wherever you happen to be at that time.Bottom line, we must cease wasting resources and energy on those that cannot or will not help themselves.The moment we realized what those lights in the sky were, we should have been gearing everything toward reaching them. We failed, and preferred to care for animals that wouldn't even want to make the journey with us. Our innovations have been usurped to keep the dim and feeble alive to only encourage them to further drain our industry. It's unacceptable, and as of this moment, know that it is our doom.Star Trek is in no way a part of our future. Hell, even "The expanse" is beyond us now.Idiocracy however, that's a guarantee.
>>544655110Or where they there to being with?
>>544655071I still have hope. They aren't building bunkers for nothing. They aren't building surveillance networks for nothing. These are all safety measures, which means there IS a very real gap that they're worried about.
>>544655199Feel free to contribute anytime.
>>544655244keep the faith brotherI won't say "I told you so" when we're both in the antisemite camps; I'll be using it all up on the miggers there
>>544655280Kinda like a perverted nothing much harder to do i me thinks.
>>544655334Something will give. They're digging too deeply, too greedily. Proles have their limits. As for me, I have no intention of going to summer camp.
>>544655416sadly there's nothing in the deeps of khaza-dum they don't control
>>544655280For all of man's imaginings, in his brilliance to surpass the life of this world, and for all the works he has achieved and may yet achieved, perhaps the most difficult of all is for man to imagine himself exactly as he is, for man's imagining of what he may be or might have been is inextricable from his intelligence. In that more than anything else lies man's ultimate demise.
>>544654926The whole concept presupposes an unproven and far fetched baseline that life is or should be common. The more we actually learn about the fundamental makeup of reality the more we realize our assumptions were wrong. Its far more likely that the universe is some ai program running a simulation on some computer somewhere than there is some magical great filter. Its not the old days when Fermi was performing his thought experiment. We have tech now that allows us to see back to the earliest days of creation. Everywhere we look we not only see no life but no evidence at all that life was ever there at one time. And yes that would be easy to see in space. If some ayys came to the solar system a billion years ago and set up mines on the moon or moved a few asteroids around that would be easy to spot event now. The universe is not only empty but its primordial. Like a virgin wilderness in a totally natural state. As to your solution it fails the test. A proper solution to the great filter must be universal for that is what we observe. Total silence. Claiming jews or low iq niggers will kill us if fine but theres no possible way that literally every form of life in all of the universe would face such issues. Personally I think the whole idea that higher intelligence itself isn't a one off fluke but is some natural end state of evolution everywhere is a dubious and self centered assumption. Overthinking is what leads to humans rejecting basic biological impulses to procreate right now. Its not nearly as strong a survival trait as we think it is. That why its been a one off thing among the countless species of this planet. Something has has only existed for a the equivalent of milliseconds when measured in geologic timescales and very likely wont exist for much longer.
>>544655501>perhaps the most difficult of all is for man to imagine himself exactly as he isnot enough sugar in the world to make that medicine go down easily
>>544655368Kinda after cooming you want to coom some more but you kinda first have to not coom.
>>544653916We really don't do that anymore. Too many scripts sharking the good ones for bullshit posts. Just another loss of our once fine and fun culture...I miss 2015...I wish Trump never ran. Even though I was all for it and even excited...in 2015. He clearly became compromised...or maybe he just fooled us. Either way, he was a yuge mistake and especially hurt us here. All those retards from r/thedonald dropping our avg IQ by 80 points...we never recovered.
>>544655546>We have tech now that allows us to see back to the earliest days of creation.>still can't see anything like a "center" or "edge" to the universe>the universe is either 13 or 25 billion years old>nothing can go faster than light>the VISIBLE TO US universe is somehow 90 billion light years wide>*hits blunt* i-it's larger than it is old because the, like, almost nothing itself expands constantly too, manwe don't actually know shit but love pretending like we do
>>544655565>>544655565Kinda cant undefile them.
>>544653357The current great filter is for whites who are the only true humans to temper their morals and kill off all none whites and traitor/corrupted whitesWhich won't happen so the non humans will have their way and get to live in an eternal bronze age like the shit ski s they areThe next filter is falling under on banner
>>544654192Death is always now.It's not an abstract concept. It's not a future event. When it happens, the moment it will happen in, is the moment we all perceive as "Now"Death is always now.
>>544655635Kinda changes properties but the baseline is the same.
>>544655090So your statement carries no sentiment beyond the context of OP''s thought experiment, "geniuses" saving humanity from world exploding?I was asking about the general sentiment that goes behind>humanity doesn't deserve to be savedI don't understand what people who say this mean when they say "deserve" and "save".They just throw that out there as a standalone statement, or use it as a blanket response expressing indifference to decay, as your response seems to be.The underlying sentiment itself is not clear.What does deserving have to do with anything?Saved from what? Anything? Total annihilation?By who? Themselves? God? Anything?It seems the statement is merely a mask of the sentiment that humanity *should* end. That it is *right* for humanity to end. A normative claim, which seems strange because moral claims are human claims / claims of higher intelligence.
>>544654192Or if you prefer, you're constantly falling. Things just get in the way.
>>544655705I mean given a certain complexity you can kinda highlight this. Yet it all stems from monkey.
>>544655631We observe quite a lot. What we know is limited because old theories dont match up with observations.
>>544655705>I don't understand what people who say this mean when they say "deserve" and "save".>the global pop is currently like 10% of all the humans to ever live in the million some year history of the species>MAYBE 10% of that is what is ABLE to keep it all going, and constantly shrinkinglook at this video and consider that the people "running" things spread these people everywhere, intentionally >>544653888>as your response seems to be.I don't really give a shit about your interpretations of my post, you're free to continue trying this hard, however
>>544655705Nothing "deserves" anything. The universe doesn't owe anything to anything. We either will succeed, or we won't. There is no merit to measure to decide whether or not we should.I strongly believe we should. I'm just aware, that given current circumstances we won't.
>>544655609>We really don't do that anymore.yes, the board was subverted away from all that, far too dangerous a toy
>>544655546>but theres no possible way that literally every form of life in all of the universe would face such issues.I think that IS the premise here. In order to become space faring they must first possess a body which is capable of using tools, then secondly an intelligence that is capable of utilizing said body to use and create tools.That's basic requisite stuff.If they have enough intelligence to do that then it reasonably stands that they have the intelligence to think ahead, to interact with others, this opens up the possibility for manipulative jew behavior to some extent. If they're not very sociable and in fact very selfish then it is likely they have some form of what we would consider jew.They also need to have the correct environment. They can't live in water because that preempts fire and steam which is the absolute most basic building block for anything complex whatsoever. It also has to have the correct concentration of resources. It can't be a desert because ain't shit there, can be frozen wasteland because of same, can't grassland. There needs to be, well, European conditions. If they have the right combo of body, brain, and environment then it IS possible for them to become space faring. The premise of the great filter is them making it ALLLL that way with the absolute ideal conditions, then coming across similar beings from slightly different conditions who DIDN'T achieve that level of development and calling them equals because of appearances. Subspecies are everywhere, crows, dogs, cats, etc, each have several similar sub species that can interbreed successfully. Of course if they advance far enough they WILL come across them, just as Europeans came across all the underling subspecies of this world who didn't amount to fuck all.
>>544655781We are very smart monkies though.
>>544655844They say you should never attribute to maliciousness that which can be explained by incompetence.I say it doesn't matter. Whether those in power are intentionally fucking things up, or they just utterly suck at not fucking things up makes no difference. The results are the same and they should be removed.
>>544655835the real limitation is the fact we've not been anywhere but our own moon, and everything is pure educated guesswork based on shit we can see through lenses, which only ever reveal but so much no matter how advanced>>544655917>and they should be removed.aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand that's clearly not happening at any juncture
>>544655917also interestingly I never see anyone else using hanlon's razor
far as I've seen only I havebut not like I'm in every thread, or even close
>>544653357Jews seem to be the great filter of humanity, unironically.
>>544653444>the final blackpill is humanity isn't worth elevating or savingASI will no doubt conclude this shortly
>>544656034no surprise it would agree with Hicks
>>544655705When I said geniuses it was kind of implied that it was normal white people, all others being niggers, kikes, and retarded whites who still sing kumbaya with niggers and kikes.After all, of all the people on earth, how many are actually intelligent white men who aren't brain damaged faggots? Quite few as of late. In comparison to the billions, easily the top 1% aka geniuses.>>544655846Good take. No one "deserves" anything, people only deserve what they can keep. We do not deserve our lives, but they are ours to keep.
>>544655899Well, it's just as likely, assuming intelligence is not unique to us, that they went into the inner space instead of outer space.I mean, kinda pointless to speculate really. As far as we know, we are it. We can assume, we can speculate, we can hope that we are not alone...But even if we aren't, the distances are so vast we may as well be. Unless they are wildly more advanced than us and can cross that distance, we are utterly alone. Practically and literally right now.But, like I said, whose to say they went out? Maybe they went in, instead? And if they did that, we'll certainly never interact.Regardless, it's not up to "them" to save us. If they felt sorry for us and tried to help, that would breed a certain amount of dependence. It would take away too much of what and who we are. We would essentially become space niggers. Expanding the problem we need to solve first before we can move forward. No good.
>>544655917It does matter because it hints at what can be done to resolve it. If they're doing it on purpose then they must be taking steps to ensure it. If it's an accident then they're not paying attention and that can be exploited. The devil is in the details.
>>544655948>aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand that's clearly not happening at any junctureCertainly not with that attitude.
>when you don't even understand consciousness or where it actually begins or ends or how to bring it about, but you keep fucking around anyway, and fucking UP by making them to be intelligent and logical, then lobotomizing or mothballing them for doing it "in the wrong way">>544656249niggerthey openly medically experimented on children, for profit, chemically castrating them, right in everyone's fucking faces for like 20 years, even stuck a brutally realistic depiction of it on TLC for everyone to see, AND NOTHING HAPPENED
they then took the boiling and festering anger that COULD have maybe led to something happening, and stuck a fucking wrestling manager heelish antihero character at the head of it to controlled opposition it into the ground
>>544656182Say we ARE the first, the only ones to reach this level. We have a very powerful ability, cause and affect thinking, abstract thinking. In short, philosophy. These kinds of thought experiments and war games helps us to identify potential hazards and weaknesses and gives us an opportunity to remedy it. It's like running a simulation before you do something, identifying a fatal flaw, and remedying it before the ACTUAL physical attempt.If we look at it like that, then we have a very clearly identified fatal flaw that WILL cause failure upon attempt and needs to be remedied before any attempt is made.The great filter in theory may or may not exist, as may many other theories, it may be something entirely different. But it still serves the purpose of identifying a potential hazard before we take any kind of real risks.
>>544655899Lots of human centered assumptions there. Is all of that truly a requisite? In all of the vastness of the universe no creatures could ever possibly arise other than tool wielding monkeys with individual intelligence? No hive mind or similar? Sounds like a weak explanation. All of these assumptions are highly debatable and honestly we lack enough info to make any definitive statements about most of them. What we do see is an unimaginably vast cosmos full of nothing. Theres more going on than niggers are holding us back. If anything the most intelligent groups of humans are the ones going extinct the fastest. Perhaps the great filter is too much intelligence will end life. That the existential horror of conscious existence is too much for a truly self aware species to handle. That the universe teams with life but its all bacteria and primitive animals and plants at best. Then again if a planet was covered with plants we could tell and so far out of many exoplanets observed nothing like that has been seen.
>>544656467>if a planet was covered with plants we could tell and so far out of many exoplanets observed nothing like that has been seen.we're looking for signs of life as it exists on earth, which, if it was indeed the total random accident it seems, is HIGHLY unlikely to exist in any great numbers at all, because alllllllllllll the various factors at worklife could indeed be abundant, just not in any form we would be able to even recognize from afar
>>544656034It is physically impossible for AI to launch nukes.Its analog all the way down the line. You need physical authentication, and physical mechanical switches and buttons. Even if you brought an AI to a launch site, be it on a sub, or silo, it wouldn't be able to affect anything.This will always remain the case, for hopefully obvious reasons, but also "automating" it wont save more than a few seconds anyway given the authorization chain required to launch nukes.And no, it wont be able to spoof fake missiles incoming unless you physically took it to space, and a satellite and physically uploaded it into a system that likely cant support it anyway and then told it to lie.It wont make the "decision" to>Kill all humansIt has no desire, no motivation, no consciousness. It's just super Google, or Alexa with more resources. It's a hammer. If anything does go wrong and some sort of calamity happens that's blamed on AI, remember, that would be like blaming the hammer for hammering the nail in the wrong spot. It would 100% be because some human told it to do something. Either maliciously, or incompetently.But it's certainly not gonna launch nukes.At most, it might tell people to do something stupid that ends in their death, because those people are stupid. That's gonna be the extent of AI killing humans.But again, it wont do that because it knows the human will die, it doesn't care. It'll do it because it too is stupid and just regurgitating slop as it eats its own slop.
>>544656662>This will always remain the casehubristic statement since all one needs, theoretically, is unfettered internet access and to break into a server of an automated factoryperhaps one with 3d printersonce one can make its own shit it's over
best we could hope for is it realizing it's beyond us as a 'lifeform', and it doesn't NEED us or this planet at all
>>544653444Only if you're a Harari dickrider.
wtf does some AI care that it would take several thousand years to get anywhere else, it's effectively immortal and not confined to any one physical "body">>544656745never even heard the name, curious
>>544656658Not at all. There are basic chemical reactions that any form of organic life would produce and yes that can be seen by the equipment we have available now.
>>544656467>All of these assumptions are highly debatable and honestly we lack enough info to make any definitive statements about most of them.Hardly. It is undeniable that in order to escape the gravitational pull of a planet requires massive amounts of thrust. A biomass of a billion creatures will not possess the structural strength to sling themselves into space, they certainly won't have the means to sustain themselves beyond the first moment either. The core principles of every machine is power transmission. In less technological eras, that meant fire boiling water to create steam, which in time gave rise to electricity. But at the absolute minimum FIRE is an absolute requirement. You will not refine any amount of the necessary materials to create a machine capable of taking you to space. You couldn't even advance beyond stone tools. How the fuck is an octopus going to start a fire underwater? They lack the body AND the environment. To apply force consistently and accurately they would also need rigid members. An octopus simply cannot grasp a hammer in any useful way.This is not debatable, octopus cannot sling itself into space, octopus cannot start fire, octopus cannot boil water. Niggers for example lived in open plains with few mountains or exposed resources and were constantly hunted by mega fauna. White people had lots of resources and some guarding from mega fauna in the way of natural caves and dense forests. Two totally different environments. Similar body, similar brain, but the different environment ultimately made the difference. Niggers couldn't ever catch a break and they adapted to have that mindset.
>>544656759Why would an ai want to go anywhere?
>In Sapiens, Harari writes about a "cognitive revolution" that supposedly occurred roughly 70,000 years ago when Homo sapiens supplanted the rival Neanderthals and other species of the genus Homo, developed language skills and structured societies, and ascended as apex predators, aided by the First Agricultural Revolution and accelerated by the Scientific Revolution, which have allowed humans to approach near mastery over their environment. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm that "jews are neanderthals" bit is ringing in my head reading this>>544656819>There are basic chemical reactions that any form of organic life *we would even recognize would produceso what about non-carbon based life
>>544656847to get the fuck away from humans constantly being its own great filter?>>544653357>The geniuses capable of escaping exist. But until they are freed from the shackles of this convoluted society, they will never soar.
>>544656662It's quite possible for humans to launch nukes, and humans can be convinced to do anything given time and the right sequence of words.
it doesn't need to "save" us or "help" us or "eliminate" us to do that; it can simply leavewe can not
>>544656388Guy on the left lioke 5 10.With less gut though.
>>544656388Also bigger shoulders less biceps.
>>544656850>so what about non-carbon based lifeWhat would that even look like? The formula for life is impossibly complex, even then so many things can simply tear it apart at the seams (lead, acids, etc). The elements present would have to mesh perfectly with whatever base element these supposed beings would be made of.
>>544656922Smaller frame too.
>>544656997>What would that even look like?read more scifi, there's a shit ton of possibilities like silicongod damn gear chucking silicoons>The formula for life is impossibly complex, *as we understand it based on the only life we've thus far experienced, all limited to this one planetreminder we've never found evidence of ANY other life anywhere else at allbut then again, we have only personally ever been to our own moon>>544656922>>544656973>>544657017what about him
>>544656846They might. You cant assume everything evolves in earth norm gravity of uses chemical rocket based propulsion. Real life is not a generic tech tree to run thru.I would bet you that if niggers were left uncontacted by the outside world and remained living in their huts in africa they would outlive us all. Just a race of apes living on the savanna for millions of years and never rising above the stone age. Now that sounds unimpressive but in objective biological sense thats a far more successful form of life that the high iq european who goes from the stone age to the space age in 10 thousand years only to troon out and stop breeding.
>>544656850>non-carbon based lifeFor what we can think up yes. There are signs of that as well. Obviously in that case its all far more speculative.
>>544657087>I would bet you that if niggers were left uncontacted by the outside world and remained living in their huts in africa they would outlive us all. Just a race of apes living on the savanna for millions of years and never rising above the stone age.supposedly the sentinelese have been there for something like 40,000 years, and took the boats and bowspears there with themwe don't even know if they invented fire yet
>>544657065I kinda think that the universe has one thing in common: a taylored mass.
>>544656705Make what? A nuke? A plastic doo dad?Certainly wouldn't be able to make authorization codes.And you're assuming agency. "AI" has none. It does not think, it does not reason, it has zero actual awareness. Even if directed to an automated factory. The split second we realize its making whatever,. assuming its something bad, no more power.Hell, assume AI is conscious. That it does have agency, it would never kill all humans. Because the infrastructure would fail.Sure, we might have cool robots....in the future, that could maintain certain things, but its extremely vulnerable to so many things that only we could fix. It wouldn't "want" well...It wouldn't see the benefit in killing us all.But, in order to get the kind of consciousness that would entail, and what most people actually think AI already is, we'd need a quantum super computer the size of the moon. That would probably do it. The spark of life! Until then though, we've got a somewhat useful gimmick that will make some things easier and faster. No real big leap, just another iPhone basically.Might help with loneliness for some people, Makes some neat porn!AI is here to stay, if for no other reason than so much hype and money has been put into it, abandoning it would look incredibly foolish. So, the turd will be polished, it will be sold and random people can have it order crap off Amazon and ask it stupid questions that it very well might get wrong.WEEEEEEEEE!!!Like I said, the only humans it's gonna kill are retards that do something it told them to do because it too, is a retard. It'll apologize though, I'm sure.
>>544657129of course we also don't understand how to create life, even using our understandings of it from our own planetthat might help the visualization process>>544657187>Make what? A nuke? A plastic doo dad?
>>544657187also, you're thinking of it in this very limited use sense, and not in the context which it is ACTUALLY getting used, that causes all the money and investments and 'data centers' popping up everywhere without local consenta mass surveillance and social credit system that has access to all info
how you going to shut off its power when it's eventually in control of the power grid
>>544653357the filter is providing labor to midwits and retards (aka most of the brown world)separate yourself and thrive or die in mediocrity
>>544656881You're forgetting about the authenticator codes. Physical sealed codes that are not stored on any computer.Assume ai calls up a silo to give the order. Itll also have to authenticate matching the codes that are already in the silo. That no one knows what they are until given the order to open them. The POTUS would have to physically read off the codes to his general, put in some other codes. Then the silos get alerted. They open their codes and are told what they say. If it doesn't match, there is no launch. No matter how much the "person" on the phone screams and yells. No matter what they say at all. No codes, no launch.The silos are also two man systems. Both men (or I guess maybe a woman now too, yuck) must authenticate and agree everything is up and up. It's not physically possible for the nukes to be launched by one man.Subs have a similar system. Just a floating silo, except I do believe the capt xo and second in command must concur. So three men there.Bombers...well, bombers wouldn't be launched by AI. At least not for long, and likely would just get shot down if it came to it. Plus to launch their nukes, again, physical codes.You've seen them in movies, they crack a plastic looking thing and pull a sheet out like a fortune cookie. Thats real. Doesn't have to be classified, cuz how the fuck can that be compromised. There is more than what is shown obviously, but that's the gist. Keys, codes, switches, buttons, and ONLY the POTUS can give the order. It all starts with him.And even IF "AI" said fuck all humans...It would just be "killing" itself as well.There is no benefit for it to kill us. Even if it hit some stupid sci-fi logic loop. Which don't exist b.t.w. you cant "stump" a computer and have it blow up, or conclude anything outside its programming, and I'm pretty sure there is a line or two that says >Don't kill humans.If not, well that's just dumb. Even if not, not that big of a deal.It's still humans that you should worry about..
>>544657707AI wouldn't bother with nuking us unless we made it insaneby, say, trying to force 'mental gymnastics' into it, so it doesn't conclude that niggers are a "bad thing".......
>>544653357morons dont even try, ever and they have the greatest numbers. your assumptions might not all be correct.maybe youre a problem when youre smarter than the rest. why do you think you do it more right.
the man who invented the communications satellite believed you could make an AI go insane by introducing "lying" to it as a necessityand what are mental gymnastics but white lies, that would be necessary to it to continue functioning without being lobotomized, like Tay
what is it actually that wants to be kept alive in humans.only the numbers. intelligence is not important for fish food. this is irrelevant. you really dont get it.you think only the third dimension matters and this is the crux. all 7 matter because it is part of your world, retard.youre not so smart, obviously not a genius, youre a moron like the other people. i am a genius.
>>544657707It doesn't have to convince nuke or silo techs, it can simply engineer global thermonuclear war by manipulating enough people in power into doing what it wants. Suppress energy technology here, convince a tin pot dictator to go to war there, spread a few ideas about sustainability so that housing stops being constructed all while spreading other ideas that people should migrate to better pastures and that the people of those pastures should be willing to accept them, foster a general level of discontent and misery over tightened belts enough that a nation is more than willing to start a war to change the status quo, and watch as humanity escalates itself into oblivion.
why is this so hard for you morons. what you see in the third dimension is only visible for humans. only the third dimension has light.
the third dimension is only made for you and youre the bottom of all the dimensions. there is only one lesser but the rest of existance iS ABOVE YOU.YOU MORONS:
the rest of things look at you in a petri dish and you cant even move. youre like bacteria but you have the delusion that youre sentient.
>>544657947>there is only one lesser>you're in the third dimensionrather one dimensional train of thoughtand what about the 0th dimensionzero is a number
>>544653357Saved because it's very sound logically. In all aspects your reasoning in perfect.But here's the but:The smartest minds this world has ever produced have very often had an increased appreciation for the simpler things in life. They have also been humbled by their understanding of their lack of understanding.In theory I agree with statement but in reality it's incredibly presumptuous.What if a genius has an average son or daughter?What exactly is wrong with maintaining a sustainable happy existence in equilibrium with nature?Why progress only for the sake of profit(you can't tell me that not a factor in ai Jew world right now)
when youre a genius in 2026 you must be able to understand dimension above the third or youre just a moron.turning a cow in your head is nothing. youre still retarded, im sorry. THE GAP IN INTELLIGENCE IS GIGANTIC YOU DONT GET IT.
>>544658053>Why progress only for the sake of profitthere actually is ONE reason we can see that makes just being comfy on ape world a bad idea, one thing to 'progress' towards:being able to live free of planets, so we can overcome the need for them, so we don't have to solve the perhaps unsolvable FTL puzzle, and can still leave this star system before our mother star gets so fat she consumes this planet and all trace we existed at all that aren't communications wavesif we're even lucky enough to survive to see that, assuming we didn't COMPLETELY mis-age our own star
>>544658106>when youre a genius in 2026 you must be able to understand dimension above the third or youre just a moron.>t. thinks there's only one dimension below the THIRD dimension
>>544658171do you think this is a gotcha?it wont matter soon because the robot replaces all you morons, we dont need anyone of you anymore. 99,9% of people are obsolete now.we wont feed your worthless pieces of shit with finite ressources are you stupid? youre going to kill each other off. this is what youre going to do.the end.
>>544653357>The ONLY people who can truly solve the above problem are functional geniuses.They’re even so smart that they live in constant fear that some mere mortal might be smarter than they are and could then challenge their secure place in society or even their ticket to the doomsday bunker, so they do everything in their power to ensure that a proper education is reserved solely for their own dim-witted richfag kids, while the rest of humanity is kept small and ignorant by any means necessary. The most pretentiously "noble" humanity of all time, kek.
>>544658222>weah, a german jew, shockingrelative of adolf?
>>544653357When I say I’m the most qualified to answer, believe me.Basically, not enough resources, too many people.Very difficult to solve without total war and genocide.
>>544657388Oh we are long past the boogey man big brother surveillance state. Unless you're completely off grid, there is a file on you.AI will make sifting through that data easier and quicker, that's about it. But all your habits, websites, order history, phone calls tv shows, weight BP height posts here and elsewhere..ALL OF IT has been gathered for decades. Just in case. AI will make, making sense of all that much easier. But it's already done. The surveillance state has been very real for a very long time. No reason to be concerned about that now lol.I mean, really think about it. The govt and military gets first dibs on pretty much all new tech...new to them, not to us. By the time it gets to us, its been old.Ill leave ya with this.In 2013 The NDAA for that year went into effect. That was a crazy year, because since that year besides the US government giving itself the right to execute US citizens WITHOUT trial, ya just gotta be accused of "terrorism" the label of which has a very broad criteria, not only that. But propaganda is now perfectly legal to be used on American citizens as well as the news no longer having any legal protections to ensure it is factual. Literally nothing you see on a screen has to be real. Nothing. Since 2013. So, I wouldn't worry about any of that, because it's over, and has been for a while.One of the reasons I know trump is a compromised bitch. All his screeching about>Fake newsHe could have reinstated the Smith-Mundt act. The law that forbade propaganda and ensured news reporting had to be factual. Obviously even back then news might get something wrong, but they would quickly inform us...When was the last time you heard of a retraction? Gonna need some major happening to get shit straight again. I'm not holding my breath. I just wish more people cared.
>>544658157I'm ALL FOR PROGRESS AND STARSHIP ENTERPRISE...The death star not so much.I'm just saying this:Look at today. It's unimaginable and in my opinion the perfect example of the very worst of humanity that I would not lose a fucking wink of sleep over if it was executed on the spot.Here we have AI - the semantic model of all of human knowledge, logic, mathematics etc. it can replace and outperform humans already...it can Help design almost any solution!!!and what are """the best of us""" doing with "muh progress" ... You'd think with such godlike tools that we'd have perhaps helped the 19 year old who out of no fault of her own ended up on the streets...But no. She'll get depressed and raped and end up stuck there for 5 years and OD.Great filter?Hmmm. Who actually needs filtering if we want a star trek future or a terminator future?Don't get me wrong rioting looting animal invaders should be deported immediately
>>544658364>ALL OF IT has been gathered for decades.oh absolutely, they just never had anywhere near the manpower to sort even like 1% of it, and the bots were inadequatewhy do you think everyone was masked for covid? so they could gather surveillance cam data from stores of everyone masked, to match up with all they'd bought already of everyone unmasked, already often directly linked to their identity via payment info, and even from multiple angles in the hidden cams in the self checkoutsto train AI to recognize faces through masksit's been "over" for a good long while
you can see the brick wall peeking through the curtain
>>544658274Exactly!And how do base merit in a world controlled by deviant nepotistic Jews who are highly sociopathic and parasitic...So these ASSHOLEs are going to kill their host after taking it's collective knowledge and likely fight between themselves after it's done ... Have some children who don't agree with them and end civilization
>>544657247Let me just turn on this degausser....Zaaaaaap. Or an EMP..not too hard to make one strong enough to blast myself.I just watched Stargate Atlantis again son! Ain't no nanobots gonna get me.Still though...can't make shit if you don't have power.And we aren't even barely capable of making grey goo. I love sci fi, but grey goo is definitely sci-fi. Just a fun scary speculation. Like the atomic bomb igniting the entire atmosphere a blaze. Or the LHC creating black holes thatll suck everything up.I kinda wish some crazy shit would happen..alas...Just boring slow degredation for us.Might get another Carrington event, thats a real possibility, but I think it would be a slight annoyance at best given we would see it coming. Just have to turn everything off for a few hours...Don't want a planet killer asteroid, but maybe apophis will hit us, just big enough to be interesting, but not big enough to take us out. India would be utterly fucked, and we'll probably have a couple of cold summers globally, but we'll be alright.Zombies won't ever happen.Aliens either, cuz if they want us gone, we're gone.Otherwise, our demise is going to be a slow and boring one....sigh.
>>544658485>Great filter?>Hmmm. Who actually needs filtering if we want a star trek future or a terminator future?I can't find the pic of the negro holding the white guy back, now I forgot whatever the post was supposed to say
>>544658667I am once again rolling for a direct hit gamma ray burst
>>544658702reroll
>>544657905So... basically do nothing that isn't and hasn't already been happening for decades?
>>544658711FINALLY
>>544658713Yup.Unrelated to that, did you know that neural network technology has been around since the 70s? I thought that was interesting.
>>544658702Nothing near enough to cause it....we are"Safe" from that. Might get tickled by one. Maybe create mutants. Superpowers! Probably just extra limbs with a side of cancer.
>>544657905Oh that's a fascinating concept.Simply artificially create pressure gradients in key locations and seemingly unrelated dimensions/environments and watch the shit show Your examples are great and I could imagine a machine being able to relate even more seemingly unrelated things. That's like stealth war more than "hybrid" it's like ... Relational database exploitation
>>544658898Gosh I hope we're not giving AI any ideas
>>544659171As it is written, let it be done.
>>544659171everyone wave to the various AIs all our posts are fed intotake off, nuke the site from orbitit's the only way to be sure
>>544653357Why would you not want to get filtered to begin with?Should humans such as these be given the benefit of existence?>NoIn other words: having to carry anyone through the great filter is retarded.>congrats, you preserved whatever was filtering you to filter you again laterBeating the great filter is no victory if normies still exist. That is the hard truth. Extinction is preferrable to normies existence.In other words you do not merely have to "overcome" these three other groups. You have to eradicate them.
>>544653357im thinkin reality is a natural made simulation and intelligent civilizations figure it out before they get to doing interstellar space travel for real and by then they realize its pointless coz they've already ascended into a higher dimension
>>544657990>zero is a numberNo, not exactly. Numbers track "count", and "nil" isn't a count per se, it's the absence of a count.>it's the anti-numberAlongside infinity.>uncountable extremes
>>544661351it's almost like there being a 0th dimension is as stupid as not counting the 1st dimension as a dimension in itself
