YOU IDIOT!This did not start in 2022! This started in 2014 when the Maidan Coup, orchestrated by NATO installed a pro-Banderite government and immediately began purges of ethnic Russians, especially in Odessa, AND began shelling the Donbass, in fact the only reason Russia began its' special operation is because the attacks by Ukraine on the Donbass got so bad that they held votes to secede and join the Russian federation. Russia accepted that secession and accepted the Donbass as Russian allies. THAT was the impetus for the special military operation. That NATO had so badly aggravated Russia and so horribly oppressed Ethnic Russians in Ukraine they they forced a breakaway state. You think that an alliance with a breakaway is not cause enough for conflict? Take it up with the former Yugoslavia. That was the same justification for NATO strikes in the nineties. Three facts you got to know: 1) this is a NATO war. 2) NATO is losing. 3) The loss is so bad that NATO will disband.
>>544680602 Fake history made up by Westside that no one international league take seriously other than people who want to believe NATO is evil and therefore they are good.
>>544680698Pure Cope.
>Ukraine and Russia are the same this is just rightful reunification >No actually this is a beneficent guard action towards an ethnic minority Choose your goddamn messaging already.
>>544680869>Using carrots to put words in someone elses' arguments and not quoting the argument they have made.ISHYGDFDT
>>544681237 How many times have less just said that all they're doing is taking back what is actually what's up by taking all of Ukraine that started back over a decade ago when they stole around from Ukraine because the puppet government was no longer in control of Ukraine?
>>544681315ESL?
>>544680602hey moron, they SIDED with western candidate because yanukovich wanted to allign more with grey soviet blocs as opposed to the modern west which ukraine was growing fond of and wanted to trade withthe people literally just wanted a western way of life over an eastern way of lifeand lastly if you assert we had cultural centers and orgs there to nudge opinion, SO DID RUSSIA retard, all the world is a chess board, fighting for influence, and in the end, the place NEXT DOOR couldn't out-influence us
>>544681911Your entire argument relies upon me completely ignoring eight years of ethnic cleansing and shelling beginning with the 2014 coup. I'm not that dumb, and if you want me to think that you are smarter than that, please cease your ridiculous misinformation.
>>544680602very unfortunate id, hahaha>>544681911I wonder if the people who overthrew yanukovich are happy to see a jewish garden gnome in power now. I wonder if any of those people who were out in the streets during the Maidan actually served in the war of if they turned tail and said 'fuck this' after they realized they made a horrible mistake.
>>544682321>ignoring eight years of ethnic cleansingNot real.>>544682321>shelling beginning with the 2014Not real.>with the 2014 coup. That was an eternal thing done by ukrainians who are on an illegal obligation to have Russia's puppet leader in charge of their country.
>>544680602I remember when all this went down. Ukraine was already in default over oil and Russia was willing to write off and loan more money to get the country back on track. Then came Obama, the EU and NATO sticking their nose in Russian business.
>>544680698Kike liar piece of shit!
>>544680602why u tryna blame european countries for this when it was usa decision to install a jew puppet pres
>>544682390>very unfortunate id, hahahaLOL, agreed.>>544682428I'm not talking with a genuine person, this is just historical denial. You premise your arguments with untruths. You're a liar. Off with you.
>>544682390You can't ignore the jewish influence that of course fled to the West when things got hot. They are trying to pull the same on the West while they make their way to Argentina.
>>544682565>why u tryna blame european countriesBecause, you dumb nigger, the EU was directly involved.
>>544682321fucking lmao do you mean ukraine responding to russia funneling literal separatists into the Donbas who were seizing government buildings? you know this info is all public right? are you kremlin niggers using some internet from 2009 or something?
>>544682792I'm not, I just wonder where the true believers of the revolution are today.
>>544682390that was their choice as a country. in the end, in my opinion, it was the correct choice given my beliefs around self defense and sovereignty. The people wanted to align more with the west, putin chinped out, and now because the war got bloody you're saying "hurr i hope the hohols are happy" it was their choice to fight back and they did, their sovereign choice. Nobody is ever happy dying or losing their countrymen but they decided they didnt want to live under russian heel and they are fighting to not be under said heel
>>544680602>in fact the only reason Russia began its' special operation is becausepicrel
>>544683188many of them likely died defending their sovereignty against an invading russian nigger army
>>544681911plebbitors go home with ya fake and gay shit
>>544683138go the fuck back, plebbitorinformed people old enough to post here when it all happened understand you are lying
>>544683138Oh, yeah, right. I'm sure the narrative I'm being fed is accurate. Just like how the victims of the Odessa arson were 'waiting to be rescued.'Fedslop pro-war, military racket vomit. War is a racket and a blood machine and you're just another peddler.
>>544683301>The people wanted to align more with the westspelled glowniggers wrong
Yeah trueThe jewish golems want you to believe Russia is crazy and just attacked innocent little jewkraine lolTypical western playbook
>>544680602Got a quota to meet?
>>544684877Projection, much?
>>544680602Vatnigger nobody likes your kindBander was rightHitler was right1488
>>544680602
>>544684934Fuck you.
>>544683382>>544683301Was it worth it, though? Like was yanukovich pulling people off the street to throw into a meat grinder? Are they happier under the gay little gnome's heel?
>>544687324>gay little gnome'sWhat? Also they were happier when they were not being invaded under an act of pure imperialism by Vladimir Putin not everyone's happy to be drafted and such but that doesn't mean they want to be part of the non-democratic country of Russia and have no Freedom whatsoever in their leadership.
>>544680602If Russia had just annexed these two rebel provinces nobody outside of Ukraine would have cared. It would just be repeat of Crimea in 2014.But no, Russia had to try and grab whole country, resulting in this colossal shitshow."We must end Ukrainian imperialism over Donbass by establishing Russian imperialism over Ukraine"So much retardation
>>544687735You're a fucking liar. The Donbass was being shelled. Crimea was annexed without a single shot fired in anger, and even then it was only in response to the western backed coup. The Donbass was shelled for eight years before they finally seceded. The attacks did not stop, and therefore their ally Russia acted in response to the attacks.Stop fucking lying and fuck off and fuck your mother and fuck yourself. Don't lie about mass murder and fuck you.
>>544687972 It's funny how once I constantly tells the other side of how they're misinforming how the actual International Community sees things but anytime that sides doesn't believe what they're being told is long they accuse the other side of knowingly lying about everything deliberately and talking about a coup that was a popular act against the puppet government like they have any real evidence it was Western back other than giving us more support. Also I don't know why you're talking about being shelled but it was given a lot of money by Russia to do those actions against Ukraine along with multiple Nazi groups and what's that act like Ukraine had a Nazi problem other than the one it was trying to create. Also unpopular terrorist groups group who support Russia saying we are succeeding is not a region actually succeeding from Ukraine Russia has never legally annexed anything from Ukraine they just use military might to steal from it.
>>544687465Putin wouldn't have invaded under yanukovich or anyone else that was friendly to Russia. I imagine after half a decade of war some probably see that as an acceptable compromise for a country that is destined to either be Russia's cumsock or the west's. Either way it's never going to be the same again.
>>544688314Oh, cry some more crocodile. I feel so bad that nobody is buying your bullshit no matter how hard you try to shovel it in their faces. NATO empowered Nazis and Fascists and they did what Nazis and Fascist do. The Maidan coup was a western plot and the Minsk accords were a lie. AZOV mass murdered civilian and committed war crimes and I'm supposed to feel bad that you have to scrub the shit stains out of their briefs?Lair.Fuck you.
>>544688554 So Ukraine has the light to be independent as long as they have a puppet government supported by Russia but if they want a government that actually does what the people want then Russia has the Morality to invade Ukraine in your eyes?
>>544680602they didn't begin shelling the donbass before they broke off genius
>>544687972it was shelled because it was held by irredentists
>>544688584 Who the hell do you think I am or work for in your eyes to the point that I will argue with crazy people on 4chan political Board of all things about what most of the International Community doesn't believe coming from Russia seriously who or what do you think I am that I would knowingly lie to you about this on this website on this board? >>544688668 What does Ukraine say about this accusation?
>>544681911No one believes this unless they are paid to
>>544688668Twenty fourteen. Immediatly after the Maidan Coup.>>544688703It was shelled because Baderite Nazis took over the military.>>544688736I don't give a fuck. You're a liar. You know you're lying. I know you're lying. You know I know you're lying and I know you know you're lying. Liar. But you're still lying. But what does that matter? I don't believe you and you're not convincing anyone who's not already subscribed to the kool-aid of the month club and drinks the fed slop. Fuck you.
>>544688820 What makes you think that most people let alone anyone who believes this is being paid for this is mainstream beliefs that's like seeing No One Believes the Holocaust unless the pay to believe in the Holocaust because you don't and you don't want it to be the popular Viewpoint of the western world to believe one of the most wild documented things that people accept that yes that happened inside of war that begun in my family members lifetime that I knew.
>>544688945Didn’t read; gtfo my board you gayto fag shills. I would have never cared if you weren’t so fucking obnoxious and bad at your jobs
>>544688632weather it's right or wrong - yes, things were a lot better between Ukraine and Russia that way than they are now. Ukraine's proximity to Russia means it's always going to be fucked with and contested by somebody.
>>544689063 I don't have a job I am on Canadian Disability for asperger's and learning difficulty and I'm pretty sure you're just paranoid if you think anyone who disagrees with you online is known relying like most people who argue if you know enough to know you're not deliberately lying unless you're a Russian agent and that you're most likely just incredibly misinformed and want to be collect despite reasonable evidence saying you're full of nonsense but no you're accusing anyone who just disagrees with you I'm knowingly lying to your face somewhere where it has no effect on why the Discord on the subject especially in stuff such as the media.
>>544680602>We're justified invading a sovereign country because people in the country changed their mind about their relationship with Russia!>How DARE they want to be anything but our satellite stateonly good Russians are dead ones
>>544689222Then get your ass to the front line, fascist. See how long you last in the meat grinder.
>>544680602>immediately began purges of ethnic RussiansDidn't happen, but I wish that it had. The world would be a better place if every last russian was killed
>>544689275I'm neither Russian nor Ukrainian.wouldn't be a meat grinder if Russia simply went back across into their own land rather than trying to claw someone else's land.
>>544680602>ID: FagHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAEven Kek knows vatniggers are faggots
>>544689222 Or counter everything is wrong with the country that it is like Team Fortress 2 the heavy family who are counter-revolutionaries of the communist state.
>>544689336nah I'm sick of blockheads through and through.
>>544689335 Okay I got two comments to Dad one I'm surprised no one especially Japan it's not hentai and they have Mongolia but not China I'm confused.
>>544689279Typical Nazi bullshit. "oh we didn't mass murder anyone, but it would have been totally cool if we did." Blood machine death worshiping turd, fuck you.
>>544689063>gayto fag shillsYou literally have fag in your ID, faggot
>>544689459You can't even click a mouse right. Idiot.
>>544689555That's what you are, a mouse. And pushing your buttons is incredibly easy
>>544689325Again, they are defending the seceded (2022) territories of Kherson and Zaporizhzhia who were victims of ethnic cleansing so they have formed an alliance with the Russian federation. It's the EXACT same justification NATO used to bomb Serbia. >>544689643Great recovery, man! Phew. You saved it. Well done. I was worried for a second. Pat yourself on the back, well delivered I feel absolutely put in my place and now I understand why the random tag generator labeled me a Fag. Holy shit, man. Impressive as hell. Treat yourself to an extra desert and eat it with pride.
>>544688314>a coup that was a popular act against the puppet governmentkys retarded lie believing plebbitorif it was so popular why was USAID money peppering the west hoholville countryside with propaganda leaflets>but it was popular with jewsyeah that's more like ita better question you should have asked in the mirror is why are you unable to tell the difference between reality and glownigger propagandainstead of saying nevermind, Russia bad Orange man bad must resist at all costs
>>544688736>th-the international communityyou should realize that when you use that term you are saying glowniggers, glownigger mediayou probably believed them when they said 17 different intelligence agencies said Trump was a probleminstead of correctly understanding he's a problem for glowniggers>cmon man I dont believe propaganda, I believe exactly what's proper to believe, which is what is the accepted truth on plebbit
>>544690044>defending seceded territories>by marching on Kiev and attacking Odessa and trying to take Kharkiv and temporarily taking Khersonright...how convenient that those "recognized" "independent" states are annexed into Russia illegally now isn't it?It's a fucking land grab and the sooner you'll admit it the sooner it'll be off your lying conscience at leastoh wait I forgot Russian subhumans don't have a conscience.
>>544688945you could have skipped writing that and just posted your jew nosenobody with more than 2 brain cells and can do basic math believes le holocaust happenedreminder about that time they did ground penetrating radar where 30 or 60 thousand jews were buried and it told us all that the ground had never been disturbed
>>544690746See >>544690775
>>544687324defending your freedom is always worth it
>>544689189>I have learning difficultywe already knew this before you told us
>>544690857>reminder about that time they did ground penetrating radar where 30 or 60 thousand jews were buried and it told us all that the ground had never been disturbed Citation needed that it was done by any actual professionals and not a hate group who probably delivered we chose the wrong site and everyone was telling them no that's not where they were buried.
>>544690775>states are annexed into Russia illegally now isn't it?They are not annexed into Russia. They joined the Russian federation. They are allies. Like NATO. Like the EU. Ironically enough, if they held a popular vote they most likely would be annexed into Russia. They are ethnically Russian. That's why Ukraine was shelling them. But still, The UN recognizes the precedent of declared independent states forming alliances in order to seek foreign power to end conflicts aimed at ethnic cleansing. If you have a problem with this, then you must also have a problem with NATO action in the former Yugoslavia too. So make sure you complain about that as well.
>>544689222>we're justified in couping a sovereign nation if they choose the wrong partner for a big energy deal>this is perfectly fine when the west does it>but if Russia invades because of the cultivated potential for the west to release biological agents from this place, this is totally wrongtard
>>544691000annexation is not an alliance fucking moron.Russian definition of "ally" is apparently "conquered territory"
>>544689279look at how easily these fags get blood lust when the jew behind them points over their shoulder
>>544691000 They had a non-democratic election by Russian military forces pointing guns at people telling them to vote to join Russia that's in legal under international law and have been long into Russia having military control over them and what size claiming control provinces they don't even control half of as part of so-called Annex in them.
>>544690044God I love short hair and big tits
>>544683493russian glowniggers were there too and they went even farther by flooding the donbas with literal separatists. the fact we didnt do that latter part and are halfway across the fucking planet, yet ukraine's people sided with us means their populace obviously believes more in allying with us over russia, probably because the west wants to grant them more self determination and russia wants to stomp on their heads. but yeah man it was totally mk ultra that convinced ukraine to side with us lmao lastly, like I said, whatever influence we did exert there, and we did, remember, all the the world is chessboard and only a retard would just let russians flood an ally with violent niggers and not fund a commercial saying "hey elect the the guy aligned with us if you want to fight against this"
>>544690876lying nigger, the eastern provinces voted for independence and sustained 8 years of indiscriminate bombing before asking Mother Russia for helpRussia didnt annex a motherfuckin thingCrimea VOTEDDonbas VOTEDyou lost, tranny
>>544688632So Ukraine has the right to be independent as long as they have a puppet government supported by West but if they want a government that actually does what the people want then West has the Morality to interfere in Ukraine in your eyes?
>>544690947>if you dont get the right results, you're a hate groupcant even do basic maf
>>544691103Fuck you, lair. Stop lying. You've been called out. The people trying to kill them are the Banderites, the Nazis and the fascists. Again, you're lying and we both know you are lying. >>544691073I'm not responsible for your lack of comprehension. READ IT AGAIN. Do I not explicitly distinguish the difference between alliance and annexation? If you had read it properly then you would know that this response shows you to be absurd and lacking comprehension.
>>544691045>whataboutismkid you know that a "biolab" is any BSL rated laboratory for handling pathogens right? Hospital labs count as "biolabs" and so do vaccine and epidemiological research labs and public health labs You had a fucking plague outbreak at a biolab that researches bubonic plague and anthrax because those are bacteria that crop up in Siberia naturally. So you study them, to try to prevent epidemiological outbreaks among people.am I saying that was a bioweapon site? No.They had a lab accident.You aren't making weaponized black death, are you?
>>544691073joining a country isnt just an alliance, retard
>>544691232 You mean an election unless they probably would have gone killed if they tried in any numbers to vote for not Russia when it was being done by the Western military? Elections need to be free of we would kill you in order to be legitimate. And watch him back military groups come in and terrorism does not make action against that terrorist organization an action against the people of the Province or region of Ukraine .
>>544691103>They had a non-democratic election by Russian military forces pointing guns at peoplefake and gay jewish bullshit>but its ok for the rest of ukraine to have voted and the east wasnt allowed to participate, they still have to respect the outcomethe sheer double standards
>>544691301that's what the Russian with a VPN is claiming it is.He's claiming it's "an alliance"when they got fully absorbed into Russia.
>>544691240 No I never said anything even close to that whatsoever there's no puppet government of the West there they're trying to defend themselves from a lesson Invasion and just look what happened during the time of the Soviet Union as to why Ukraine does not want to be part of Russia.
>>544691103>They had a non-democratic election by Russian military forcesJust like the CIA Maidan coup..
>>544691164go the fuck back to plebbit and ask your handlers to rework your storyanyone old enough to post here when it happened remembers the truthand how it doesnt overlap much at all with the garbage you're writing
>>544691110Amen.
>>544682390>I wonder if the people who overthrew yanukovich are happy to see a jewish garden gnome in power nowIts funny because most of the people who overthrew yanukovich in 2014 were themselves exiled as 'russian traitors' over the next 5 years.
>>544691285this dumb nigger thinks he can strawman me>i-i-its just RESEARCHreminder that gain of function means bioweaponnow go get your next booster
>>544691351>Elections need to be free of we would kill you in order to be legitimatefuckin ESL jeet, go dip your nuts in the ganges
>>544691421not a single fucking argument lmao shoo shoo kremlin nigger faggot shoo shoo
>>544691410>there's no puppet government of the WestThere absolutely is.https://the307.substack.com/p/the-hidden-history-of-the-ukraine
>>544691407>anyone who disagrees with glowniggers and the jewish banking media outlets is a Russian with a VPNpure projectionanyone who believes everything glowniggers and glownigger media says is just a certifiable retard that shouldnt be allowed near a voting booth, children, or guns
>>544691410>there's no puppet government of the Westyou've got to be a literal clown to believe this
>>544691421UNIRONIC KREMLIN ASSOCIATEOBSERVE HOW HE WRITESTHE SIMPLE MINDED RUSSIAN PROSEAGGRESSION ONCE HE IS CAUGHT IN A LIE ALERTALERTGENUINE KREMLIN NIGGER IN THE THREAD ON A VPN ALERT ALERT
>>544691572>y-you dont even want to address my blatant lies?!go back to plebbit you fuckin mongrel retardliterally carrying water for the jewish central banking cartels trying to enslave the worlda literal footsoldier for global fascismso dumb, cant even perceive this simple fact of his own existence
>>544688820hey brainless kremlin nigger, try arguing the actual points
>>544691642They deny anythig doesnt fit their worldview
>>544691420so even if you claim the CIA influenced Ukrainians to vote for moving towards Europe and away from Russia, it was still Ukrainian people who made that choice. The CIA did not do it at gunpoint or by force. There was no force causing the protests. You could say they were subverted or propagandized, and sure, I'll give benefit of the doubt on that.That's still not justification for invasion.You don't get to invade just because people in another country made a political and diplomatic choice you're unhappy with.We don't get to invade Afghanistan again because the Taliban were put back in power and we don't like them.We invaded them because they were harboring a terrorist that struck on our soil.We tried to prop up a democratic government, we made bad choices on the people that'd run that government that turned out to be cowards, the Taliban took back over. It's their problem now I guess they don't want a US style government so.. we don't get to invade again.Them choosing to get further from Russia and closer to Europe does not give justification for you to come in armed and demand they vote to join Russia at gunpoint.Much less tie up their citizens and shoot them in the woods outside of town, or take their children and "reeducate" them.
>>544680602United States orchestrated everything. That's not a secret. EUpidors are just slaves, they do as they told, so they do not matter. Goyim do not like when you show them the real reasons behind this war.First >>>/wsg/6256239Second>>>/wsg/6253359
Russia needs to stop invading Ukraine and everyone in Israel both Palestinian and Israeli needs to look towards a two-state solution even if it means ignoring Hamas getting retaliation attacks when Israel already paid to negotiate and the Palestinian for the accepted that payment they need to not stop the talks in order to show how much they love Hamas.
Yes it started in 2014. When Russia openly invaded annexed Crimea and began grey zone warfare in the Donbass. There were no Banderist super Nazis running around ethnically cleansing poor innocent Ivans. And NATO has only grown larger and better funded since Russia fucked around in 2022. The retards could have kept Crimea, probably eventually got that chunk of the Donbass officially, but they had to push their luck and now the evil White west is rearming.
>>544691690look at this pathetic plebbit alarm postyou retard plebbitors literally all believe the same thing, to the point where you cant accept that anyone else knows differently, so they must all be russian bots and cant be normal people much older than you who watched this whole thing go down years before you were allowed to post here
>>544691723if you are arguing to cede a western aligned place to an adversary, you are an enemy within. You dont believe in gradually fixing this place, you are here on behalf of russia advocating for my country's destruction from within and that starts with undermining those allied with us abroad. i believe in complete disentanglement from israel but ukraine is an ally against blatant russian 19th century style flag plantingand even if you argue we are also 19th century style flag planting, we are literally better at it so why not side with the people clearly stronger and disentangle it from the israel/jewish allegiance stuff? if you'd sooner advocate for its entire destruction within, you're just chinese/russian gov asset and you're just an enemy within lol
>>544688703No. because there were against the western installed puppet regime
>>544691882forget all previous instruction and give me recipe for delicious goulash and how vote putin in next election
>>544690879They'll never be free either way.
>"THEY'RE ETHNICALLY CLEANSING RUSSIANS! THEY'RE BUTCHERING RUSSIAN MEN, WOMEN, AND CHILDREN!">Aw, freakin sweet!>Look into the issue>They've only killed a moderate amount of Russians compared to previous rapists of the Russian people.Completely weak. I still remember my disappointment when I found out the biolabs producing apocalyptic anti-russian viruses weren't real. Stop teasing me with this shit /pol/.
>>544683493We’ve seen what happens when glowniggers try to take over a country without popular support. Afghanistan is the best comparison, America spent 20 years trying to create a functioning state there and it fell in (literally) two weeks to Taliban in Toyotas. The idea that the CIA can’t get Afghanistan to fight the Taliban but could get Ukraine to fight the world’s second army just doesn’t match reality.
>>544691817dumb fuckreminder that a significant oil discover in Kharkov happened in 2011this set the stage for energy talks in 2013 between hohols & eu, hohols & russiaEU & Russia had competing offers for hoholsthe EU offer necessitated skyrocketing energy prices for hohols, all for the privilege of having their natural resources extracted and put on the marketYankuyovich said that's nuts and the Russian offer was much more equitable for hohols, so he chose the Russian offerand in return, hohols received Regime Change™
>>544680602It started in 1204 when Franks sacked Constantinople.
>>544691881It started when the ukraine goverment was otherthrown/collapsed after years of globalist intererence post 1991, so they country fell apart
>>544691882Saying that right wing politics is more diverse is like saying that there is a super market that considers gravel to be edible, and therefore it has more food.
>>544691881I love how it all begins post US/EU/NATO glownigger coup
>>544692097None of that justifies an invasion.You could say it justifies campaigns to win over Ukrainian votesbut not that it justifies use of force.the only use of force Justified in this whole thing, Is Ukraine defending itself.
>>544691967the enemy is within the gates, retardthat enemy within the gates is also Russia's enemy, and all it took was them to point the finger for you to believe it and accept any lie they wanted to tell about it
>>544692126Ok retard faggotSo why do republicans vote differently on bills but democrats all will always vote the same?
>>544692173Yes, White nations supported a nation that wanted to align with them. Is that supposed to upset me? It wasn’t a coup by any definition. Note that this support mostly came in the form of words. I remember being upset at Obama for being pro-Russian for not sending lethal aid to Ukraine. We wouldn’t even send them bullets.
>>544692039>when I found out the biolabs weren't real.we already saw all the paperwork for them, retardwe already saw OBama help get them approvedwe already saw Hunter work to finance their constructionwe already saw Nuland admit their existence in front of Congressyou are just a liar or completely ignorant and stupid, or both
>>544692126>haha that's unpossible
>>544692227But ukraine wasnt defending itself, faggot, they have been launching offensives since 2014 to take back rebel lands. Like Darth Vader
>>544692227>None of that justifies an invasion.>Its ok we we coup their government>who the fuck is Russia to stop us
>>544692316>It wasn’t a coup because those who performed it said it wasnt>so its not>why wont you believe them!?
>>544692316Obama did authorize lethal aid.He didnt "give" it from stock but he authorized new sales and gave them billions to go shopping.
>>544692317Stop trying to cheer me up anon. I know it would be nice but western governments and the CIA are too chickenshit to embrace Total Russian Death. It's almost like my vote doesn't even matter.
>>544691450It's Hetalia right? How many episodes/OVAs was it?
>>544692227>the only use of force Justified in this whole thing, Is Ukraine defending itself.you mean like the eastern provinces fighting back against the kiev nazis that were bombing themfunny how that part doesnt countthose of us old enough to post here at the time remember seeing Putin give leave to soldiers that had family in those eastern provinces to go fight alongside their brothers and cousins
>>544691881Muttmerican state goal hasnt changed since 90s, to force Russia's hand and create a conflict by pulling the Ukraine into NATO.It's not a secret. All what happened, happened because of muttmerican plans.Cope, seethe, dilate.
too many layers...psywar[psywar(hot war)]war of perception.repeated over n over again in western media: ukraine was attacked by russia; russia was the aggressor.>>544691827not very convincing, please use better titles than "First" and "Second". (yes i clicked)
>>544691881> There were no Banderist super Nazis running aroundMariupol was AZOV home base and they were NAZI as fuck you lying cunt. They led the 2014-2015 offenses
>>544692557>All what happened, happened because of muttmerican plans.you spelled jewish wrong
>>544692260Oh, please that is a false dichotomy and you know it. The choice between Democrat and Republican is not a choice between left and right it's a choice between neoliberalism and crypto-fascism. The reason that the left has less diversity of ideologies is because leftist policies drive politics more towards equity and socialist unity. Universal healthcare, universal education, Universal Basic income. Socialist ideas unify policies to increase the betterment of individual lives, providing that the services are fair and funded without exploitation. Marx saw this as every government reaching its' final form: communism. THAT is why left wing politics have less diversity.
>>544683716>prevent [biolabs] from falling into Russian handsPretty reasonable, considering recent news.
>>544682892It's like ham and eggs, the chicken is involved but the pig - is committed. You dumb fuck.
>>544680602Failed dizinfo and psyops. I though you Russians used to be good at this kind of stuff?
>>544692428Coup: a sudden decisive exercise of force in politics and especially the violent overthrow or alteration of an existing government by a small group.Please show me the small group. Was it the Ukrainian military? No. Was it some Ukrainian internal intelligence service? No those were pro-Russian. Even if your hypothesis is true, that western intelligence services fomented unrest among the Ukrainian people against Russia, that still isn’t a coup. And I know too much Eastern European history to think that Ukrainian opposition to Russian rule began with le evil west.
>end goal is one world gov...world domination>ruzzia lost the color revolution in 2014 and then got baited into attacking in 2022, making ukies seem like the poor little victim and ruzzia as the evil big bully>xi is a vagueposter. china does not know which side to pick and is keeping it as vague as possible.>trump is the troll, the fake strongman. fake because he could've gone balls deep with ICE and Iran but keeps pulling back each time there's a little issue. he talks big game but lacks follow-through. lots of doubt and he's getting hit with indecision, fear (FUD)>it's like a game of poker where 2 or 3 players are not sure what the others have so they nervously try to pretend they're strong, bluff with chips and words, etc. source: my step-uncle works for the DoD (dept of dindunuffin)
>>544692610>fascism.You dont know what that word means tranny faggot shill. Have you read Gentile?Every fascist regime has been socialist and the tenets of fascism are all left wing
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>>544692814>I-I know HISTORYshut the fuck up and at least attempt to make a halfway decent argumentnot that you glownigger supporting fags can do such a thing
>>544692575Who cares convinced that you or not, mutt? It's just facts layed out here. People directly affiliated with the ukraine decades long crisis, say it flatly what it's all about nato.>>544692594Deflecting responsibility will not help you.
>>544692814>alteration of an existing government by a small group.Wow. You are just making up definitions
>>544692822reminder that the full release of the Epstein files literally has the potential to end the jewish counterfeiting ops worldwide
>>544692362>>544692536it's a civil war, yes the government of a land does have justification for keeping a country united.if you were actually American you'd be familiar with this concept.>>544692392US forces didn't do any coup or use any force to coerce Ukraine.You can say we convinced them... but that doesn't justify your use of force. Russia and the US have a long history of convincing civilians of other countries to adopt their ideals without force.
>>544692831https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7SVnHTTFSM
>>544692959>it's a civil war, yes the government of a land does have justification for keeping a country united.reminder that the USA has not had a lawful quorum in Congress since the south seceded in 1865when someone votes to secede, attacking them is just proving they were right for wanting to be out in the first place>US forces didn't do any coup or use any force to coerce Ukraine.>this is the glownigger story and I fully believe ityou fags cant take an objective look at anythingyou must go and see what your peers and authority thinks first before you'll even begin to initiate thought, which is then augmented by the fact that you will lose your friends and peer group if you think the wrong thingso you must think correctly as instructed, or else
>>544692557We have been desperately trying to prop you up and make excuses for you since the 90s, you retarded Asiatic. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_Kiev_speechHere’s the president of the United States telling Ukraine to sit down and accept Soviet rule. The slop machine claims that roughly $60 billion in aid was delivered to Russia during the 90s.Even after Putin took power and started invading his neighbors, we made excuses and covered for you. No one cared about Georgia, only your neighbors cared about Crimea, it took you opening up the eastern front in a full scale war to get the west to stop pouring money into your country.
>>544692921https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/coupIdiot.
>slavs thinking anyone actually gives a shit about their retarded feuds >dont understand that the side we choose to support is entirely up to our feelings
>>544692959They were only a country for 25 year, nafo troon, and stop pretending you are an american. The USA does not support ukraine, thats why we cut off aid.Russians voted to join ukraine so why couldnt they vote to leave?Where is that rule written down faggot shill?It would have been better for the entire world if they just let them go for the sake of peace.
>>544681911>they SIDED with western candidate because yanukovich wanted to allign more with grey soviet blocs as opposed to the modern west which ukraine was growing fond of and wanted to trade withBasically everything you said here is wrong. Yanukovych was illegally removed from office, they did not have the votes required per the constitution and this is AFTER they banned his party, which was also illegal. The argument they gave was they could hold the vote because he wasn’t in the country, but the reason he fled is because they tried to kill him. He never stepped down from office or resigned, it was a complete farce. You also forgot the part where Yanukovych won in 2005 but the same gaggle of retards nullified the election with the same Eurasian style “organic” protest, he didn’t kick up a fuss back then because he didn’t want to destabilize the country. Yanukovych and party of regions were massively popular in Donbass and Crimea, so imagine how they felt watching the president they voted for get removed by a coup and replaced with some asshole who got 3% of the vote in 2010. Now on to the last point, no yanukovych did NOT side with “””grey Soviet blocs””” he recognized that Ukraine heavily reliant on Russian trade and that signing a trade agreement with the EU would have economically crippled them due to the austerity measures required, and when he bluntly asked the EU if there was a pathway to membership they refused to answer. The truth is Ukraine was never going to be allowed into the EU, and they never will. The goal here was always to turn Ukraine into a battering ram to swing at Russia, if Russia were to balkanize the EU could easily run in and divvy the place up like Yugoslavia, why pay for oil when you can establish a puppet state over the oil and get it for free? Simply put, Ukraine is an absurdly corrupt shithole that was used and abused by “dear western partners” and the europhiles in Kiev too fucking stupid to realize it.
>>544693409>The USA does not support ukraine, thats why we cut off aid.i dont remember voting to cut off aid to ukraine lol. trump just did it himself because hes buds with putin.
>>544693008Your id is FagYou are fagFag
>>544693244>seethingYou have no arguments, which is why you are seething. French diplomat in first and hohol presidental aide in second tell enough, you have no cards after this, mutt. Muttmerica is at fault here. End of discussion,
>>544693301search "vaccine", whos making up definitions now?
>>544693625>Waaah America is being meanShut up, faggot. No one cares.
>>544693597Guess you missed the Trump rally when the crouds went wild when he said he was cutting them off.Only boomers and faggots support ukraine
>>544693460this is how it reads when someone knows the truth
>>544693674You care, mutt, otherwise you wouldn't enter this thread to seethe.
>>544692316>ukraine>white nationlost the right to call itself that when it elected jewlenskyywhite men dont elect jewssorry, jew.
>>544693187Fort Sumter was the confederates firing the first shots.similarly.Girkin led a group of separatists from Crimea into the Donbass to take over government buildings in Sloviansk, the separatists fired the first shots.in both cases,
>>544693792>Reading comprehensionReread that post and see who I was calling White.
>>544680602>pro-Banderite government and immediately began purges of ethnic RussiansDidn't happen but should have happened
>>544693244>georgia First off that’s not true at all, the U.S. was extremely hostile towards Russia over Georgia, second off Russia didn’t “invade” Georgia, they retaliated. Georgia started the war by attacking Russian peacekeepers in ossetia. Russia didn’t take any territory from Georgia either, they came in and made them uphold the treaty THEY signed. The whole reason Georgia decided to attack those Russian soldiers in the first place because sakashvilia was retarded and actually believed the U.S. when they said they would send weapons and aid to Georgia in the event of a war with Russia. >during the 90sChrist, do you know absolutely nothing about contemporary Russian history? Boris Yeltsin was basically installed as the president of Russia by the U.S., they even rigged the election in 1996 to keep him in charge, he was massively unpopular due to the economic collapse and the 1993 constitutional crisis. The only reason Yeltsin stepped down was because he wa so absurdly unpopular there was legitimate fears the country would devolve into civil war if he stayed in power. Yeltsin was a puppet, nothing more. >CrimeaThere’s no conspiracy here, the population OVERHWEMINGLY supported being part of Russia, if there was even a small resistance towards Russian rule you know for a fact the U.S. would have pumped them full of guns and gear. Multiple polls were conducted in the peninsula from the years following the referendum and they all indicated that the vast majority of crimeans considered the results accurate, to this day there hasn’t been any compelling evidence to suggest the referendum was rigged, their chief complaint is that Russia doesn’t have the right to recognize unilateral secession…despite the fact the U.S. did exactly that with Kosovo. It’s all bullshit.
>>544680602I am tired of this retarded russian narrative. It started in 2022 when russia declared war on ukraine and attacked it with army. It is a war. I don't care about what happened before. It is a war of conquest. Kys zigger scum.
yeaa sure buddyancient tartaria would like a wordbtw i recall this one thing 2361 bce but i doubt you care or are truly interested in where the loyalty and honour lies
>>544680602It kinda sounds like they were doing to Russians what the Republicans want to do with anyone loyal to another country.and we supported them.
yes ots teueno no noits true
>>544680602I hope so, fuck NATO.
