Can we all agree that this was the most retarded thing Hitler did.
>>544681165Not as retarded as the US supporting Russia.Not as retarded as the US supporting Russia AGAIN, just now.
What was so important about Leningrad that it was equal to Moscow and the south of Russia?
>>544681165His biggest mistake was invading Poland. That shattered the balance in Europe and set the stage for everything else that happened afterwards.
>>544681388Ideological objective, retarded shit.
>>544681305Cope, germany lost, USA is still getting rich and out of any warzones in their own soil. Literal inferior nation.
>>544681165Thanks for trying, uncle H.
>>544681530Really think if they had just turned the map upside down they would have realized that "up" is not necessarily important and would have focused on important resources.Barbarossa is a result of the fatal flaw of Nazi aggression, it is what doomed the whole movement. Every other gain was at the expense of a competing power, where Russia had always tried to establish peace.
>>544681516thisIf he let the russians invade and then took the role of a peacekeeper, moving in to liberate germans and poles from communists he could have fought the russians first and pushed them back to the Urals. France and the UK would not be able to claim self defense.
>>544681663You were our best ally. We were slaughtering the jews from both sides.
>>544681516Poland brought it upon itself; maintaining peace with the USSR would have been the smart decision, while Hitler defeated the UK.
>>544681516>defeat France>drive Britain out of Europe>have a strong enough position to where it feels like invading the only other power is doable
>>544681165operation Barbarossa did not have Stalingrad as an objective. that was the summer offensive of 42'. this is a shitty fucking image
>>544681388Port facilities and to fully secure the baltic waters.
>>544681838...thats why Stalin refused to join the Axis, was preparing to attack Germany, joined the (((Allies))), got nukes from the Jews.
Why did he name it Barbarossa? After a crusader who failed.
>>544681305Suffah, Hans! Suffah, biiiiish!
>>544681794>implying Angloids wouldn’t invade Germany anyway
>>544681165He needed oil for his tanks and planes.But he should have just made a deal with Stalin, they already had the Molotov–Ribbentrop pact.
>>544681165Should have just finished Britain off and called it a war.
>>544681305Nigga you don't understand. The only country US supports outside of US is Israel. As far as US is concerned the ideal outcome is world war between Russia and untied Europe with them selling guns to both sides. That's what they'd do in ww2 if your jap allies haven't dragged them into it, that's what they want to pull off with ww3.
>>544681165Hitler should've used his full force to topple Moscow.
>>544681165Cancelling his invasion of Britain was his biggest mistake.
>>544682764Operation berzerker mode
>>544681165US sold weapons to russia, UK sold the banks to jews, US sold the banks to jews, russia sold the banks to jews you are all filthy traitors of humanity
>>544681516yea thats not fair how dare hitler.let mother russia annex people in peace! uh i mean the soviet unioon!
>>544681709>where Russia had always tried to establish peace.russia slaughtered hundreds of thousands in the 1920s lmao why do you say shit like this if you dont have the maps in your head? russia is a HYPER aggressor
>>544681165Ruskies started the war, Germany had to react.
>>544681305Fpbp
>>544682358They couldn't. If he waited for the soviets to make the first move then Germany would have been the UK's ally. Or, if the bongs decided not to honor their agreement to guarantee Polish sovereignty, then they wouldn't be able to convince the British people to fight the Germans because they actually did what their own government had promised to do.
>>544682373That the soviets broke by invading Bucovina.
>>544682804He did not have the means to invade, he had no troop carriers. His big mistakes were>allowing the evacuation of Dunkirk>moving from bombing British airfields tobomb Ing industryIf the allied armies had been wiped out in Dunkirk, war over. If airfields had been bombed in England 1-2 weeks longer, war over. Sue for peace then throw everything at Russia.
>>544683100>Germany would have been the UK's allynever in a million years, the brits were hell bent on destroying germany.let me remind you that the UK joined ww1 with the plan of blockading germany, causing a famine + disabling explosives productions at the same time. (unfortunately for them we figured out how to generate ammonia from air in 1913)they thought their plan was so genius they aped in to create their super africa colony from suez to the cape.i hate the english language because it always displays britain as some innocent when in reality they literally attacked almost everyone on the planet
>ctrl-f italienbad thread
>>544683312>the brits were hell bent on destroying germanyWhat they wanted would be irrelevant in the face of political reality. If Hitler doesn't invade Poland the UK's options are:>help Germany push back the soviets>sit there with their thumb up their ass as a communist horde gobbles up the people they promised to protect>backstab a country objectively defending itself and the people the UK promised to protectThe last two options instantly end what little is left of the British empire, with the third in particular destroying their relationship with the rest of the Western world for at least a century. Only the first option allows them to maintain their empire and some semblence of control over the situation.Hitler fucked up. He handed the bongs the justification they needed to fuck him over.
>>544681305now exactly like before. The European tyranny is all focused on its self preservation and is not able to read basic geopolitical facts.Questions like “Why” things are the way they are forbidden from the public debate and the ones that understand what is happening are silenced and left obliged to look at their predictions unfold in front of their eyes
>>544684405Lol, they literally did the latter, abandoning Poland when it was attacked by the USSR. I wonder why did they chose to attack Germany, but not the USSR, hmmmmm.
>>544683100>they couldn’t Why not? >Germany would have been the UK's allyBased on what?
>>544681165>most retarded thing hitler didliterally that was his entire goal, retard
>>544681794So many things crashed into oblivion with the invasion of Poland. Great Britain got a legitimate reason to enter the war and that was one country Germany could not defeat without achieving massive air and naval superiority, which they could not. With Britain in the game and US support of the British Isles, Nazi Germany could not focus on the Eastern Front with all its might to have a better chance of defeating the USSR. At the same time it appeared risky for Berlin to just sit idly because war with Britain was draining their resources, while the Soviet Union was getting only stronger. All the while the US was eyeing getting meaningfully involved in the conflict which was bleeding both Germany and Britain. Being locked in a hot war with Britain also essentially eliminated any chance of London reacting in any tangible way to the Soviet invasion of Poland or their war with Finland, - they just did not have much resources to spare and in Finland's case they no longer even had a stable supply line to ship equipment to them in 1940. Invading Poland was the worst decision Germany could have taken in 1939 and it was practically over nothing too - Danzig and the corridor were a drop in the ocean in the grand scheme of things and were not worth destroying Europe's political balancing over. I believe Hitler just wanted to pull a Czechoslovakia on Poland with Danzig being their Sudetenland, but given the circumstances he could not afford to count on mere luck pulling this off. He sealed his fate with the decision to invade Poland, there was no going back from it no matter how many peace offers he sent around. Germany was over on the 1st of September 1939.
>>544681305>US supporting Russiahow exactly?
>>544681165Whenever people talk about how the Nazis were retarded for attacking Russia they sound like a black woman who was just proven right.Attacking Russia was the right choice to make. Their military was extremely disjointed and half assed, but large in number. Their command structure was based entirely around one, non-bulletproof human being. Their military largely consisted of conscripts and basic civilians given a gun and told "good luck" while the Germans had tanks and planes, artillery, and all sorts of shit.The idea was that it would be a fairly easy victory, get in fast, capture and kill their leader, and take over their command structure. Doing this shouldn't have costed much more than a few thousand precious German soldiers lives, a few hundred thousand rounds of ammunition, and if the Russians got lucky, a few vehicles. However, the Russia infrastructure was piss poor, their roads couldn't handle anything bigger than a tractor. The transports constantly got stuck, constantly broke down because of the terrain, and as such battles which should have happened much sooner kept getting delayed.Now, on top of this, the Germans did not expect the Russians to all be so willing to die for their leader, who it was believed they only followed out of fear, so the Germans ended up fighting off an unimaginable number of poorly trained slavs with rifles that didn't take a lot of talent to use somewhat effectively, with less vehicle support than expected, and now the brutal Russian winter.That campaign was an absolute shitshow of everything just kind of working unnaturally well for the Russians. In reality it should have been another successful blitzkrieg and given them enough captured troops to fend off not only the Brits, but also the Americans.. And Trusting Stalin not to break the truce is retarded. If Hitler didn't attack Russia armchair generals would insist he was retarded for not attacking Russia.
It was notSplitting up Army Group South trying to take Stalingrad and the Caucasus Should have kept the armies together And moved two well equipped divisions to France at a critical time.
>>544681709Stalin was only mad Hitler invaded before he could
>they HAD to invade!in other words, Hitler's country was gonna fail on its own so his desperate all-out surprise attack aiming at surrounding and destroying the bulk of the army before they could retreat inwards was forced
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg1PF-jY75U
>>544681165His mistake was not understanding that his enemies did not care the slightest about the lives of the people in their jurisdiction. He did not understand that Churchill and his jewish handlers did not care how many Englishmen had died on the fronts and in the London Blitz, or that the US political elite was itching to entier the war from day 1 regardless of what the American people wanted. Consequently, he tried to force the capitulation of Britain in a conventional war, which was an impossible task, and it tried ot maintain neutrality in the face of the US, also an impossibility. (For those who would yap about Germany declaring war on the US: The US had started attacking German ships without a declaration of war first). If Germany had invested half of all the ingenuity and effort that went into weapons into developing a competent network of assassins to BLAM the archkikes, slaughter all of the banker clans, and murder their foremost shabbos goy pawns day 1 of the war, the war would have been over in one week and the invasion of the USSR, if at all happened, would have ended differently.
>>544681709>Russia had always tried to establish peace.Russia was literally going to keep encroaching west. Hitler was surprised by how many tanks they already built.
>>544681516Poland was given German land and was treating Germans terribly. Germany invading Poland was 100% defensible.
>>544681165But the EU seems determined to repeat his mistake
>>544681165Well that is what my jewish history teacher taught me is that the retarded nazi's chose to fight Russia for no reason at all in the middle of winter like a bunch of inept retard losers and then they all died. So according to the jews, yeah it was the reason Hitler lost the war.
