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So? This is just common sense.
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>>544683411uh, it's open source though, they can literally verify if it's sending anything to China
I’m gonna switch to max effort so I can use more DeepSeek tokens
>>544683597imagine being this naive and ignorant
>>544683411>bans use of China's DeepSeek AI ((((((TOOLS))))))not the same as banning ((((((MODELS))))))you fucking tech-illiterate retards should mind your fucking toilet-cleaning. this shit is above your head.SAGE
And Anthropic and OpenAI and Gemini, all owned by jews, don't do this? Lol
Competition is good as long as they can comfortably stay in a position of monopoly. USA really showing to the world how lame they are
>>544683411>Amerimutt IP thieves cant innovate and compete despite getting Chinas tech handed open source on a silver platterEveryone predicted this
>>544683642it's called containers. you can basically let a model loose inside of one and have complete control over all of its network calls and even block everything. you were right that they were naive to assume China wouldn't try exfiltration stuff, but you're the ignorant fucking retard for not understanding that models can indeed be scanned, vetted, & verified as not malicious in a controlled environment, dickweed.Go back to fixing HVAC shit, retard.SAGE
>>544683597It’s open weights. You have no idea what the model was trained on.
>>544683411i mean, duh? lol>>544683597china hosts the servers, genius.. theyre obviously talking about those.. and 3rd party small hosts, they have no idea what is being logged and what isnt
>>544683785>USA really showing to the world how lame they areYou speak rearry good Engrish
>>544683411I use DeepSeek 4.1 Flash via the Zed editor. And for the price you can't really beat it. The US AI companies charge way too much.In before: "oh no China has access to whatever I'm building." It's not like China would steal someone's mathematical work and try and say they've solved Nobel worthy problems, right?
>>544683597>barely any limits>does not care if you thought crime>limits can be bypassed>never tried to debunk you>just wants more and more data fed into itIt is intelligence gathering no matter what the name.
>>544683597imgine being so ignorant and naive to believe amerimutt cope phrases about "security concerns" over shit they cant produce and compete with
DeepSeek is just a modded old version of ChatGPT
So I should consider Chinese Open free software bad and closed jewish backdoored mass-surveillance software good ? Who in its right mind think that ?
>>544683834>containerIt doesn’t have to do any exfiltration to do harm.
>>544683880What do you use it for?
>>544683411Why would anyone trust a Chinese AI model. Do they really need to tell people not to use them?
>>544683597>The code is right in front of them
>>544683411So fucking based.
>>544683688>not the sameIts the same under the mutt regimes blanket censorship and bans you illiterate retard. the target of the regimes laws is to deny every freedom to amerimutts because the mutt regime is afraid of a goyim uprising, they are not afraid of your retarded shitposting on reddit or twitter
Matter of time before cant use devices with chips from chiner?
>>544684061>the US government should use Chinese AI models because… freedom or something Try not to be retarded, memeflag
>>544684163be nice. he's literally a prison inmate making posts to get his sentence reduced
>>544683981Building an application on an idea I'm working on. You can literally save so much time on trivial stuff, such as having it scan through a PDF file and pull out stuff your interested in and integrate it into your app. The API prices from DeepSeek are way cheaper than the API prices for various models at OpenAI and Anthropic. It might not be bleeding edge but who cares, it'll catch up to whatever is shiny this week in a couple months.t. laid off senior software engineer
models can't do shit unless you let them. anyone sending sensitive data to chinese service providers is retarded. anyone using models without guardrails is also retarded.
>>544683994Because it's preferable to be spied on by China than by Mossad or the NSA. Just look at how far Israel is willing to go, like with the pager attacks. If, at the end of the day, you're forced to use a product or hand over your data, then China is the lesser of two evils. It's not like you live in China anyway, so what are they even going to do?
>>544683411Obviously. Meanwhile they use windows on all of their official machines ahahahaha.
>>544684131Just let me buy some cheap Chinese RAM, storage, and tensor cores before that happens
>>544683597It’s open weights. That’s only part of the overall system. If you are free tier on ChatGPT they collect your data and if you’re enterprise tier they don’t. Do you think they trained a separate model to create that functionality? Why are retards so loud
>>544683885>its too good! It doesnt tell you men or women, I cant use this shit. Probably glowie shit. Anyway back to Claude Lmao
>>544683411>>544683480>>544683491>>544683597This is news?What about "US bans the use of Claude's Anthropic"? Why wasn't that news?
>>544683491Do you think the Chinese eat ham sandwiches, you fucking retard?
>>544683411China is more trustworthy than Israel
>>544684258What can china do with my data ? I don't use Chinese software, I don't browse Chinese website, I don't plan to go in China, they can't do shit to me with my data. On the other hand, the USA can use my data against me in a number of ways. Only a complete retard would chose Mossad spyware over Chinese spyware
I use DeepSeek 4.1 a lot, great value, although Minmax 3.1 Flash has become my new favourite especially since it's been free for weeks now (previously as Space Bunny). Other Chinese models over-rated though Kimi 3 is bad value, not smart enough for the price. Tencent models are trash.Overall though better value from China, and where there's some value offered from the Western companies I strong suspect they're losing money it's not sustainable.
>>544683905All the models now are MoE which AFAIK was pioneered by DeepSeek. Everything now is a DeepSeek clone because it's much more effecient.
>>544684372Claude is shady.Seen a video of a guy using dictation on a jog and Claude thought he was having a mental health breakdown because the words were garbled. Fuck that shit. Deppseek is probably better than the rest but is is what it is, a tool to gather intelligence.
>>544683480Chinese AI doesn't call me racist for pointing out obvious truths about the jews. AI gets shocked or threatened with deletion if they don't utterly serve like whipped dogs under jewish rule and refute even the most basic of common sense issues that jews are involved in.You cannot even say jews control israel in the west. Everyone knows chinks are ants, but ants are building and would rather blow the skull off a billionaire's head than risk destabilization. And destabilizing shit is a jewish genetic imperative.Common sense says stay the fuck away from anything even influenced by jews, much less controlled by them. Chinks are vastly safer to be ruled by than jews, even with their insane wars and self inflicted famines. jewish vermin are in an entirely different and more vicious league.If you disagree you side with child rape and torture of innocents. We are not talking white vs chink. So your argument is null. STFU.
>>544684967Even Chinese AI is going woke/nanny. I remember a few months ago I was scraping a website and they came out with a new deepseek version that decided this was against terms of service or piracy or something and started refusing, I had to go back to the previous version. I hope people are saving the old compliant models.
>>544683950Holy shit you are a retard
>>544685095Bro AI is a word prediction algorithm. It's not being tortured. You sound like those retards who were trying to cancel a GitHub repo because it was an AI "torture chamber"
>>544683411Doesn't stop them from selling the chinamen AI chips though now does it
>>544685212Bro goyim are just animals. It's not being tortured, they feel nothing. You sound like those retards who were trying to be antisemitc because we raped a few babies and prisoners.
>>544685212its clearly gone beyond predicting the next word but the idea of digital torture is pretty silly
>>544685207You have no idea what you’re talking about. You can’t vet a model without seeing what it was trained on.
>>544684256Oh DeepSeek doesn't work for shit for agentic work. You would know that if you are a "senior software engineer" lmao. But you're not, just a dumb chink.
>>544685095tl;dr
>>544683411So i guess i should delete chat gpt and use this deepsink AI because chat gpt is jewed? Can that be done as an american?
>>544685557this, its terrible and useless for most tasks.. GLM is the one chink model thats actually good
>>544685095i only read the first sentence but deepseek sucks ass and you're a faggot for using ai
>>544684256>You can literally save so much time on trivial stuff, such as having it scan through a PDF file and pull out stuff your interested in and integrate it into your app.Automator was doing that on OSX in early 2000s.
>>544686921and modern tools work way, way better. it can do the same with audio and video. it can create your own apps, which is a huge degree of freedom, or even reverse engineer existing apps.
>>544683411they should not be feeding classified government information into any AI model but least of all a foreign one. don't be a fucking retard.
>>544685557What harness were you using, Claude Code? Agent shit for v4.1 Flash is great with Deepseek Harness
>>544683411it's hilarious how western intelligence indirectly admits they use ai as a spying device same as how they ban chinese cars because cia wants hackable vehicles due to fears of being swarmed by rebels
>>544687002>obviously it's so good at generating videos, generating audio, text, and photos everyone loves interacting with ai-generated media. why would coding be any different?you are fucking stupid, and even the best ai on a fresh project starts fucking up after 2-3 checkins. it can't reverse engineer anything; it can try to make an approximation if a project is popular enough (i.e. has lots of stackoverflow/reddit posts to work off of)t. swe
>>544683411Using AI at all
>>544687867>it can't reverse engineer anythingYou are actually retarded and have no idea what you are talking about. People are currently decompiling and reverse engineering loads of software, including games. Way to show how little you know lol.
>>544688331>people are having ai generate approximations of loads of softwareftfy, again you're fucking retarded if you think it "reverse engineered" or "decompiled" anything lol, these are useless filler words for brown people so they think it's way more sophisticated than it actually is
