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I'm so American, I based my understanding of capitalism and its benefits on prices on the McDonald's menu. Competition and innovations in food systems (and cheap Mexican labor) drove down the price of an okay hot meal to a couple of dollars with unlimited drink refills.

20 years later, I have a better understanding: value menu prices were so low fast food chains were operating at a loss for a long term goal of growth later. They knew they were going to jack up prices.

Now we see how it is about profit or profitablity. It's not convenience or choice. It's feudal lords forcing a product and thus forcing the stock to go up despite not being relatively producing.
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>>544721279
OpenAI bs hypothetical value is based on what its going to be able to do in the future. Costco valuation is limited to physical items
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>>544721279
Stock market isnt capitalism. Stock market is commuinsm lite.
In communism people own all public companies. But they get no profit out of it, only central comitee and appointed CEOs get profit out of commie public companies. The "real owners" who are public get nothing, maybe some shity product.
Stock market works exactly the same way to siphon money from people. Stock holders are owners on the paper, but in fact only main shareholders (central comitee) and CEOs are profiting and running the company. The rest od the people maybe get some product, which is getting shitty year by year, because central comitee and CEOs run company into ground for their own profit.
This is exactly how commie countries operated and fucked over their own economies. It has nothing to do with capitalism. Yet bunch of retarded reddit troons like OP have no idea about economy and were taught jewish bullshit about it that inflation is just raise of prices whileit is not, it is loss of value of money, but ask any PhD nowadays and he will tell you the former. And those PhDs in "economy" run your country economy. Just like in commie ocuntries PhDs with marxist economy degrees ran commie countries and fucked over economies so much they collapsed.
Stock market is communism. This is why jews thrive there and steal your shit and in return you get shitier and shittier goods.
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>>544721279
>I based my understanding of capitalism and its benefits on prices on the McDonald's menu.
you know that's correct right ?

99% of people in the western world have no use for Ai.
thurd worlders use Ai online as translators to invade
How many versions of ai are there ? thousands. does it look like a thing that will ever produce value ?
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>>544721410
no, it's retarded, physical things are more important than intangible things.
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>>544721681
Please tell me you are trolling
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>>544721833
I agree, im just going off their logic
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>>544721279
>I based my understanding of capitalism and its benefits on prices on the McDonald's menu.
Then you used to be enlightened in economic matters. Actual economists do the same, anon.
International McD revenue is also used as an indicator for how favorable a country views the US. The UN even operated under the "golden arc" principle which states that no country with a McDonald would ever wage war against another country with a McDonalds.
Putin proved them wrong though.
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>>544721895
oh, yea.
i mean, its hard to describe, nobody just hands you money; but somehow governments are like, "yea, bruv here's 3 trillion dollars for this thing that wont do shit".
like all the world governments are running at a deficit, and every year they devalue our savings by 15% when they print paper... and some retards are out there handing over 3 trillion money of OUR fucking money... it's a joke, good for neets for doing what they do, this is a circus.
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>>544721892
He is correct.
Though actual communism would be preferable to stock market ownership. In a (theoretical) communist system the workers all get a share (stake) in the company they work for. Since they want to see their shares rise in value, they are incentivized to work hard and make the company successful.
In our current stock market system, you can buy shares from any publicly traded company. But since you don't work there, you don't give a shit if it succeeds or fails as long as you make money by holding or shorting. Wealth extraction is the only goal here and that always leads to a loss of quality (enshittification) eventually because the CEO has to help you extract wealth or you're just gonna vote to replace him.
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>>544721892
have a (((you))) retard who does not understand how economy works.
Stockmarket is a scam you fucking jew and you know it.
How millions of people can own one company nad have nothing to say in it and get no info what the board of directors is doing while board of directors operate on inside info? On stockmarket it is possible.
How can bancrupt company be worth billions while operating company can be worthless in stock? On stockmarket it is possible (see GME)
How is stock market capitalism, when while street want to fuck over funds like with GME shortsqueeze the central comitee stops the trade so funds survive and street and individual investors get fucked?
Then stock market to operate needs influx of new money - it is pure ponzi scheme. Working company like Valve does not need influx of speculants trading their money to operate. They do not need their stock to be worth anything to operate. Stock market is just a scam to siphon your money.
If tomorrow noone trades on any stock market the working companies will work as they worked and nothing will change in their operations. Only companies that would panic are the ones who are frauds. And they can be frauds only because jewish stock market exist. Exactly as the companies that operated under communism which produced absolutely nothing but wer eprotected by commie governments.
STOCK MARKET IS THE BIGGEST JEWISH SCAM WORLDWIDE. Just after Inflation and debt based economies.
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>>544721279
Tesla was also unprofitable until a couple of years ago. It should have gone bankrupt multiple times, but US government didn't let it die. Same shit with this. All these big US companies are private only on paper. In reallity they are US government companies.

You live in communism.
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>>544722038
>the covid crash weakened the accessibility of mcdonalds to average people, destroying its unifying power and sundering the golden arch principle
All according to plan
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>>544721279
jewish nigger tier goyslop. would be glooooorius to see private equity pick apart it's carcus
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>>544722395
that's not communism retard, that's nationalism.
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Compare openai to Micron to see a 'fair' comparison. Or SpaceX to any hardware company. The market is retarded and full of retards who retardedly buy software growth stocks on the assumption such stocks will have some kind of infinite runup on low costs.

Costco has a lot of underlying costs which explains the lower valuation, but micron has runaway growth in revenue and low overall costs/high cash flow/buybacks but retarded traders are shorting it now because "hardware cycle narrative has run its course" while buying into the idea spacex can make 1 trillion on starlink in 10 years.
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>>544722554
it would be nationalism if US citizens profited from this. But they don't. Instead they ar ebeing replaced by jeets by the same company and government. So it is communism. Romanians should know how communism operated. So who are you under this flag in reality?
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McDonald's has probably spent more money trying to figure out why I stopped going than I have at McDonald's in my life
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>>544721410
>OpenAI bs hypothetical value is based on what its going to be able to do in the future.
OpenAI's value is based off of how much fear people have of it bursting the stockmarket bubble if it collapses. Their cashing out by holding other peoples money hostage and ransoming it back to them.
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>>544721279
Tech stocks are the original crypto. It's completely based on speculation. All the old school valuation techniques, P/E, dividend yields, etc. Went out the window. It's all about what it'll be worth next year.



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