yeah, i'm thinking we're back.As Thatcher said, the problem with socialism is that eventually they run out of other people’s money to take and they come for youhttps://x.com/elonmusk/status/2113210745710162001
Musk became a trillionaire off socialism. he has received more government funds than Nero
>>544736525Pretty retarded statement given the government literally prints money out of thin air all the fucking time, and Musk is by far the largest beneficiary of this.
>>544736525you would have to be trying to be this stupidno, the government makes the money out of thin air, it starts to exist when its spent. the taxes come after.and anyone with even a modicum of knowledge of history showed that communist countries pursued a path of rapid industrialization, they didn't just go around looking for rich people, taking their money, then giving it all to poor people.thatcher and her policies ruined england, turning it into what you have now. she de-industrialized the place, sold off all the natural monopolies like water and gas, leading to super high costs, service interruptions, and discharging sewage into the rivers. she also started selling council homes to their owners, and forbade the proceeds going to building new ones, leading to the current housing shortage.closing all of the state invested industries sent whole swathes of the north, wales, scotland, and the midlands were devastated, with no new industry and jobs replacing them. these places have never recovered, with generational poverty being the normso you could more accurately say that capitalism is about stealing everyone else's money, and they are constantly coming for yours. oh and a little something from google search:>Elon Musk’s business empire has secured at least $38 billion in total government funding—spanning federal contracts, low-interest loans, environmental regulatory credits, and subsidies—according to an extensive analysis published by The Washington Post and tracked by corporate subsidy research groups like Good Jobs First.so he already came for your money, and spent it on a car that flips.
>>544736525holy based. imagine if he quoted ronald reagan next. this is epic
>>544736525Looking at the current wealth disparity we really need some Socialism badly
That Thatcher line just gives away how the rich see themselves as apart from the rest of society. They're not countrymen in any meaningful sense but an "other".
>>544737263Doug Ford ran an ad with Reagan and we got hit with 1000% tariffs. lol do iiiiiit
>>544736525>the woman who along with Reagan initiated the great western industrial exodus to AsiaLook how well things turned out. Paragons of shit.
Twitter react thread!
>>544736525Musk made his wealth from American taxes
>>544737263>reaganHe did say 'well' a lot...
>>544736525Musk is literally the biggest welfare baby in the world
Why cant this tard ever write a full sentence.>true>this>some emoji
>trueThis nigger is a faggot who I hope chokes on jewish cock, anyone who speaks one word statements needs to be hung by their balls.
>>544736525So will Elon be giving up the government subsidies? Those are someone else's money. Pay your taxes shithead.
>>544736525HURRR NO TO SOCIALISM BUT YES TO GOVERNMENTS GIVING COMPANIES WELFARE
>>544736525Elon is the biggest welfare queen on Earth.
>>544737200>, the government makes the money out of thin air,the govt BORROWS money created out of thin air from the "Federal" reserve. Which is privately owned. IF the govt issued their own money, then they can cancel debt...which jews hate
>>544736525Eventually you run out of state property to sell to your mates etc.
>>544736525such a bad bad example fucking bongland probably unsidputed number one traitor government what are they redistributing ? pokemon cards ? how many governments are in debt how many ffsnational debt the monetary slave psyop on a global scale
>>544736525Elon is the world's biggest welfare queen LMAOfucking white nigger
>>544736597Came here to say this. He also received an absurd amount of assistance from NOAA and NASA and other agencies and then after he paid $250 to orange man become part of the US government he purged those departments.He's such a corrupt piece of garbage.
>>544736525Musk is a socialist
>Blaming communism and socialism for negative impactsYou dimwits have no idea what either of those are. You see ISM and get scared.We're in a late stage capitalist system and the negative effects are happening because the rich are fucking robbing government funded by the poor
>>544736525elon musk would be poor like us without government handoutshim replying *true* to shit he doesnt give a fuck about in his everyday life is the definition of virtue signaling and done so poorly only people as retarded as elon could fall for it
>>544736525That's correct and unless you are a pathetic parasitic loser you oppose socialism.
>>544737402worse than that. >Parents own rare gem mines>He's already rich, goes to college and lies on immigration paperwork>He funds paypal>He funds companies and makes up founder title>OH MY GOD HES SO SUCCESSFUL
That's not true though. The government printed and minted the money in the first place.
>>544736597miggers think by gifting billionaires money every time billionaires take shit a crumb of shit will somehow find its way and fall into their low iq migger mouth because some jew somewhere convinced them trickle down economics are real o algo
>>544736525Wouldn't it be funny if someone shot that walking estrogen waterballoon? Imagine the smell.Inb4 tranny: Musk has more estrogen in him than every single tranny on earth.
>>544738650He'd fly around the room like a deflating balloon as he is full of hot air.
>>544736525>MUSK INVOKES MARGARET THATCHER ON SOCIALISMFor those that are unaware, invoking Marget Thatcher triggers the fuck out of left-wing lot here. Even those that never lived through the 80's talk as if she's the devil, second only to Hitler. The icing on the cake is that she triggers the fuck out of the Argentine too, which is always fun to watch.https://youtu.be/0is5wKDUXyY
>>544736525Capitalism is socialism for billionaires. they take from the working class and give nothing back.
>>544737872The government doesn't borrow money from the central bank, it instructs the central bank to credit the reserve account of a client bank with new money and simultaneously record a corresponding negative balance on the government's account. This isn't borrowing money, it's creating money with double accounting (creating a negative and positive balance at the same time). When the government collects taxes, it reduces its negative balance while also reducing the positive balance of the bank that the taxes came from (double accounting again) which "deletes" the money. The "national debt" is really the amount of money the government has printed that hasn't been deleted by taxes yet. It isn't borrowed from anyone because you can't borrow something before it exists.
>>544736525Neoliberalism is why Epstein class exists and why you are maidenless and poor.
>>544736597Socialism for big guys competition for smaller guys.
>>544736525No one at all asked me whether I wanted my taxpayer dollars spent wingman-ing Israel in an antagonistic war against THEIR Iranian enemies.So as per usual, it's Socialism/Bailouts for the rich and privileged as Capitalism intended, but Darkest Gommunism when regular people/poors want some of that.
>>544737872If your family does not own the Federal reverse then you are a cuck and you should kill yourself.
>>544738994>nothing backuhhhhhhhh their trust will out their names on a museum wing or park bench.
SO EPIKHE SHOULD POST MILTON FRIEDMAN AND REAGAN NEXT
>>544739017Commercial banks do the same all the time but with npcs are customer. Every loans for your lemonaid shop creates money. There's 0 requirement for JP Morgan to do that.
>>544736525Rich left-wing "progressive" people are the biggest problem in our society. We need state to confiscate their assets as compensation for the damage they do to society by lobbying for left-wing causes and funding leftoid politicians.
>>544736525hilarious considering Musk is the poster child for taking 'government money' and no one ever talks about the fact his companies survived early on via gov contracts, grants and selling carbon credits to other businesses that his companies were given by the government
>>544738950>Awful people acting awfully triggers reasonable people who despise awful thingsWhat an ebin own!
>>544739176True, most money is created by commercial banks up to some regulatory limit. When you pay your mortgage it deletes the money the bank created to loan it to you, similar to paying taxes.
>>544739176>>544739300The Retard's Guide to Understanding Banking and Finance
>>544737200In cases like the soviet union they actually did murder and rob the producers, especially landowning farmers.
>>544739017>The "national debt" is really the amount of money the government has printed that hasn't been deleted by taxes yet.It never will be deleted either because it is an usury system. You know, the treasury could make its own interest free currency, but it doesn't, because debt slavery is the point of the system, which only lasts around a hundred years on a good run.
>>544736525It's afraid
>>544738589why don't you do the same?
>>544739017>The "national debt" is really the amount of money the government has printed that hasn't been deleted by taxes yet. It isn't borrowed from anyone because you can't borrow something before it exists.If people in the future have to pay that debt back through tax collection, then you have not only confiscated it from them, you're confiscating it from them before they're even born.
>>544736525The point of socialism is state owned sectors like BBC radio
>>544739403>You know, the treasury could make its own interest free currency, but it doesn'tHoly shet, is there a Retard convention in town?
>>544736525Thatcher completely ruined England, reducing it to a pathetic service economy with little to no industry.
>>544737297Gosh do you think there is any reason Musk might feel a bit alienated after living in a reverse apartheid nation then being demonized for helping find fraud? Musk ended the censorship regime of Twitter, was vilified for ut. Musk made a viable electric car but since he supp9rted cutting usaid fraud, the leftists sent their puppets after him and all of a sudden electric cars are bad. No shit he feels like an outsider, because your fucki g irrational angry cult painted him as one.
>>544739481>Holy shet, is there a Retard convention in town?Bank =/= TreasuryLearn the fucking difference.
>>544736525Funny, he says that, but Musk has never once run out of other people's money. He takes my tax dollars to this very day, and uses them to buy elections.Fuck you musk, you're a fucking parasite.
>>544739516Either way, you are completely pants-on-head retarded. What shady corner of the internet do you parrot this stupid shit from? Do you recieve financial insights from transmissions picked up in your fillings?
>>544736525Senile old bitch didn't know what she was talking about, she gave all the state assets to rich donors and impoverished the UK for eternity, if you're quoting her you are low iq
>>544739483Yeah then America did that to themselves too. Most politicians are greedy and shortsighted and just like the board members of many destroyed companies, made short term gains at the cost of long term reliability and viability.Unfortunately this is common for human beings in power, so it is not solved by socialism. Socialism only adds a new layer of destruction and carnage and removes any and all motivation to innovate and earn and create.
>>544736525>The federal government awarded SpaceX more than $500 million worth of grants in its early years. And that $500 million is just a fraction of what Tesla received from government grants, loans, contracts and regulatory policies. >That’s not to say SpaceX’s success and Tesla’s roughly $1.5 trillion valuation are entirely due to federal spending, but both companies teetered as startups before receiving taxpayer subsidies. >SpaceX’s first major windfall was a $278 million grant from NASA in 2006 to develop the Falcon rocket system and Dragon space capsule. The Space Shuttle program was ending, and the US needed a new way to get astronauts and cargo to the International Space Station.>It was the first of more than $500 million in grants SpaceX would receive, according to data from PitchBook, which tracks the valuation of private companies. >In January 2010, Tesla had sold less than 2,000 cars in its entire history, virtually all of them electric oddballs based on sports cars from Lotus, a relatively obscure British company. Then Tesla received a $465 million low-interest loan from the Department of Energy, months before its initial public offering. With the loan, the company developed the Tesla Model S sedan, its first major success. Tesla paid back the loan early through proceeds from an additional sale of stock in 2013.>Tesla buyers received federal tax credits worth an estimated $3.4 billion before the perk ended in 2019. Tesla then cut prices to maintain demand. Given how much it had to cut prices, the tax credit likely allowed Tesla to bring in more than $1 billion on cars sold in America than it could have without the tax credit. >The tax credit was restored in 2023 as part of the Biden administration’s Inflation Reduction Act. But Republicans in Congress and the Trump administration ended the credit across the industry on September 30, 2025.
>But Tesla’s most significant financial support was not from tax credits for EV buyers. It was from a government program to reduce carbon emissions across the automotive industry.>Under the regulatory framework, car companies had to meet emissions limits. If they didn’t, they would have to buy “emissions credits” from companies that did comply with the limits. And the one company that always came under the emissions limits and had credits to sell was Tesla, since all of its vehicles are electric.>That meant virtually every other car company in the US was lining up to pour money into Tesla’s coffers as a result of the regulations.>Those credit sales accounted for nearly 25% of the company’s revenue in 2008 and 10% of its revenue throughout the next five years.>Between 2008 and 2019, sales of regulatory credits generated more than $2 billion for the company.
>>544739528>>544739528What do you think about ilhan Omar. She takes your tax dollars and sends it to Somalia- the difference is she didn't create an innovative new I telnet access device or a viable electric car. She created nothing and only stole. If you support the true idea of socialism, you would be fine with using tax dollars to benefit industry that we all use. But you don't think, you only emote and group think. It is not a substitute for being rational or a truly good person.
>In a tweet in 2020, Musk admitted that Tesla was nearly forced to file for bankruptcy as recently as 2019. Even after it survived the bankruptcy scare, it wasn’t until 2021 that Tesla was able to post a profit without the help of credit sales.>Since 2019, sales of regulatory credits have brought in another $12.3 billion, with all of that money falling pretty much directly to its bottom line. That credit revenue is likely to dry up in the future, though, as Republicans in Congress have essentially eliminated the program.>But Tesla’s value no longer has much to do with its cars. Instead, the company’s share price is based on Musk’s promise that Tesla will soon offer widespread self-driving “robotaxis” and humanoid robots, a promise he has long sought to deliver but to little avail.>Wall Street’s faith in Musk is the main reason his wealth has reached previously unimaginable heights — at least for the moment, as long as his companies’ share prices remain near where they are. But that faith comes because at the start of his businesses, when he needed financial assistance the most, it was the US government — not Wall Street — that provided the needed help.>“It turned out it was definitely good for the government, America, and society that these companies exist, so I don’t regret that the government gave him the money,” said Gerber, the early Tesla investor who is now a Musk critic. “The mistake the government made is they should have had an equity stake.”
>>544739721None of us drive a Tesla or use Starlink tho.
>"As Thatcher said, the problem with socialism is eventually run out of other people's money to take and they come for you">-A socialist leech himself
>>544736525He guilelessly says this as the biggest mooch of government taxpayer dollars.
>>544739721Go drown in a hot tub while high on K, Elon.
But that's not correct though. The state creates its own money supply. The pound is created by the Bank of England, pure and simple.
>>544739721>She takes your tax dollars and sends it to SomaliaYeah, how much? We just gave him like $4 billion. And he's using it to rig our elections.
You're a shameless faggot Elon. Aren't you supposed to be working instead of molesting children and building gay RC cars?
>>544739462According to MMT it doesn't have to be paid back, it's just possible. Taxes are only needed to control inflation when the government prints more than what the economy producesThat is one of the more contentious points though.
>>544739929We could be talking 10's of thousands of dollars here, an ebin misappropriation to rival Hunter Biden. Or about 1.5 seconds of Operation Epstein Fury.
Also it's laughable someone willing to quote fucking Thatcher given the shit she has done to England reverb on that hellish island to this day.
>>544739601You're a fucking tard to think that there are zero consequences for percentage level creation of currency from currency. It is always multiplying, meaning the creation speed of the debt constantly increases. It is a nominal system that is guaranteed to fail through devaluation, and the reason it does that instead of defaulting is because you can print to infinity.The collapse is the crack-up boom, where people stop using the currency as a derivative of goods. The entire western financial system is at that stage, hence all the immigration into western countries. The natives are debt saturated, but new people brought into the system can have the debt attached to them, but this is just kicking the can down the road.>Muh quantitative tighteningBarely fucking happens, because the easier option for central banks and governments is to inflate away the nominal obligations.
>>544740019It's perfectly natural that a politician that sold a Nation down the river to moneyed interest donors would be one of Elon's heroes.He's playing to his favorite audience, who absolutely have no historical perspective.
>>544736525Israel is entitled to free US tax payer money, stop being antisemitic.
>>544739483AI OverviewMargaret Thatcher’s government policies (1979–1990) are widely criticized for causing severe social and economic damage, particularly in working-class and industrial regions of the United Kingdom.Monetarist policies and a rapid push to curb inflation led to deep recessions, driving unemployment past 3 million (around 12%) by 1984. Aggressive market restructuring devastated traditional manufacturing, steel, and shipbuilding industries across northern England, Scotland, and Wales.The handling of the 1984–1985 miners' strike and the abrupt closure of coal mines left entire towns without local economies or transferable job skills.Critics argue her government used roughly £160 billion in North Sea oil revenues to fund mass unemployment payouts rather than investing in long-term infrastructure.Policies promoting deregulation, tax cuts for the wealthy, and privatization created a sharper divide between rich and poor, sharply increasing national poverty rates.Critics point to the underfunding and commercialization of the National Health Service (NHS) and social welfare systems, applying corporate logic to public care.
>>544740019It's funny to watch the left complain about Thatcher when we have had a Labour government from 1997 to 2010, and now from 2024. Isn't it fascinating to see that they uphold the system she created. Almost as if they wanted to do it themselves, but didn't have the balls to.
>>544740393Then comes the next "right winger" party and fucks it up seems like they have a common goal innit mate?
>>544740341>AI OverviewYou should really look into the turmoil before Margret Thatcher. The left always leave that part of history out of the conversation when discussing her.
>>544740442>Conservatives being right-wingHAHAHAHA! The Conservative party hasn't been right-wing since the 80s.
>>544739401>In cases like the soviet union they actually did murder and rob the producers, especially landowning farmers.yes but not to fund a welfare state so that hippies can sit around and do bong rips or whatever image you have in your mind. its about who owns the means of production, and where the surplus value goes, to the people who made it or the people who stole the means in the first place and enslaved everyone else. and yes there were expropriations, which are heckin valid. https://itep.org/who-pays-taxes-in-america-in-2024/the bottom 99% contributes 76.1% of all tax revenues collected across the United States.so you are being expropriated by the government on behalf of billionaires so they don't have to.think of all the externalities of business that are passed onto the taxpayer. like heavy trucks, that do 4000x more damage to the roads than a passenger car. i live in a northern mining town, and the trucks beat the shit out of the roads and infrastructure, while the people that work in the mines have to pay taxes for the road repairs that their own company causes them. so the company is passing the costs onto the workers! the reason you cant fucking go anywhere or do anything in the summer without hitting road construction is almost entirely due to heavy truck traffic. if it was only passenger cars they could go decades between resurfacings. this is only one instance of public goods being destroyed by industry, there are many many others.
>>544740453I can't wait 10 years *if your shithole still exists* so I can read you faggots defending Boris and his retardation the same way because "oh he didn't meant to replace polak workers with literal shitskins">>544740525>since 80sSo left wingers bitching about left wingers which why you as a right winger must defend a left winger, Thatcher, right.
Thatcher wanted to put fags in concentration camps to stop the spread of AIDS. We should have McListened.
>>544740525This is very true. The UK right wing are currently hitting Labour head with the national debt whilst ignoring the handouts and damage the "Conservatives" did to the economy during the scamdemic.
>>544740453So the house desperately needed repairs and Thatcher came in and just burned it down.>Problem solved!
>>544737263>line goes up. >Communism defeated.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/uBhq6gEvRPglearn newfagjew and gov print money without doing work far more than taxes
I'm starting to believe right wing in the western world is just "Hey that Tatcher granny did a really good job enriching herself and her croonies, let's copy her!"
>>544740646The short story is that the miners and the unions were holding the country to ransom with three-day-week power. The left always chooses to forget that Margret Thatcher was a beast of their own creation. She had the bollocks to actually do it something about it, unlike the pussies around her.
>>544740640Most people here have come to the realization that parliament is just theatre to create the illusion of choice, hence Labour and Conservatives being their weakest in terms of electorate support right now.
>>544736525Government money is supposed to run on capital generated from owning and operating a market.Imagine you owned and operated a town square that dudes turned up to sell stuff at, and you charged the buyers to get in but not the stalls (just charge more to cover in game of cat and mouse).But also on top of that, you somehow end up in trillions of debt to the dudes that show up to sell stuff......despite completely owning the market and dictating anything that happens in it....Oh yeh, because you are not a market and are a sub market to a market.That's what you fucking get for inviting non ethnic civic equals to start a state within your state.
>>544740565>and the trucks beat the shit out of the roads and infrastructure, while the people that work in the mines have to pay taxes for the road repairs that their own company causes them. so the company is passing the costs onto the workers! the reason you cant fucking go anywhere or do anything in the summer without hitting road construction is almost entirely due to heavy truck traffic. if it was only passenger cars they could go decades between resurfacings. this is only one instance of public goods being destroyed by industry, there are many many others.Hear Hear!
>>544740726It's funny watching you sperg over Thatcher. The haunting is eternal.
>>544737200Thatcher forgot that the British don't know shit about generating wealth and are a bunch of welfare baby mamas, which includes their globohomo aristocracy.
>>544736525>Federal contractor against socialism
>>544740761So now it's the Corporate Financiers who hold the Country to ransom.Well. that explains it.
>>544740761> The country is the private marketA group of citizens wanted to hold the private market hostage and the market agent, thatcher, convinced them that citizens interests and the private market interests are totally in line.Today the private market will come cut your son's dick off and you legally can't do anything about it. So safe to say Maggie was right
>>544741071Yes anon, lobbying is a problem, but so is the stupidity of politicians who chase shit like net-zero policy, damming us to expensive energy costs.
>>544736525ELON IS A 300 IQ GENIUS
>>544741108Another anon who is haunted by the ghost of Thatcher.
>>544741044>muh socialism takes our money>Implying our current "republican capitalist" system isnt raping us with taxes daily and sending it to Israel and military contractors for nothing in return.Be sure to vote Republican, bros! Dont want those filthy Democrat Socialists to take all your money instead!
>>544739069this guy gets it. the entire system is 'it's bad if you are poor and get money from the government/taxes' but if you are rich 'it's good if you get money from the government/taxes'
>>544739419Because I wasn't born rich. Maybe someone from my boomer relatives will pass down the...HAHAHAH YEAH RIGHT I'm fucking dreaming.Tax the rich. Eat the rich.
>>544741044National socialism was invented because the problem with unfettered private market interest is that you eventually you run out of humans capable of living beyond 30.Global liberalism is of course just robbing people blind. Maggie was a globalist and a liberal, just not the 'socialist' kind.
>>544736525you know for thousands of years it was the state that had money and land and it gave them out to other people. this is a toff's view of the state
>>544741291>Blaming capitalism when you're not blaming the mechanism (the central bank) that enables itThe exploitation ends when everyone abandons the central bank. It is this instrument that off shores your wealth.
>>544736525>Said the guy who got rich from government subsidies
>>544741044so that's the benefit of our 'capitalist system' right? in that the government and central banks can just create money out of thin air and bill the plebs for it so they never run out of money. but our money even day to day no longer holds it's value. capitalism is just the rich passing their bills onto the poor
Billionaire:>NOOOOOO U CAN'T JUST HECKIN' TAXERINO MY WEALTHERINO NOOOOOOOO THAT'S NOT FAAAAAAIR I EARNED IT BY EXPLOITING PEOPLE AND BLATANT SCAMMING AND SPECULATIVE MARKETS NOOOO YOU CAN'T HECKIN' TAKE IT FROM ME NOOOOOOO!Do people unironically simp for these cunts? Wealth inequality in the time of Thatcher was no where near what it is in the world now, especially in the west.
>>544736525You don't run out of other people's money; money put into the system via socialism goes back to the people it's taken from. The largest produces make the most profit, get taxed the most, and that money doesn't all evaporate, it trickles back. Ironically the best example of it evaporating is the billions that go missing in defense spending, a major interest and investment for those most likely to be anti-socialist.Even with social security, that money goes back into the private sector.
>>544736525Fairly typical Republican election slop. Watch for him to start rolling out the race baiting when this doesn't work.
>>544741249Kek, my grandfather got a middle class life off the back of buying BT shares.BT is now majority owned by some Indian dude that wants no direct labour, all subby, BT is now a capital owned contractor.Or what you would say is that BT owns the market but doesn't operate in it anymore.> Government owns market and charges business to operate> Convince the people to vote for government to operate in market> Yay labour, yay fake socialism> Convince people to vote for government oversight due to now being market operator> Need a UN or something, a human rights thing innit> Convince people government is poor market operator so must sell up> Yay, we want free enterprise> Liberal globalist corporation's now own the market, appoint agents to government to charge citizens to enter market they used to ownThatcher was as much of a stooge and a retard as Blair. They are both liberal globalists, just the blue and red kinds.
>Has a trillion dollar empire built off of tax money>Vehemently doesn't want to be taxed, or pay back the system that gave him his start>Spends your tax dollars buying off your politicians, to avoid being taxedWhat a shitbag. Just another immigrant ripping us off.
>>544741609>You don't run out of other people's money; money put into the system via socialism goes back to the people it's taken fromYou run out of working people's money. With socialism, you eventually create an enormous parasitic class that lives at the expense of the workers. Eventually, equality is achieved, but everyone is equally poor because no one wants to work just to have nearly everything taken off them for those that don't work.
>>544741609Then there's the fact that more money for the richest also trickles into politics more and more. The idea that they're doing that for some social good and not for personal gain doesn't make sense. Most supporters would see it as incidental or at least in support of what they want philosophically, smaller government, but they end up handing over the means to make sure that the corruption they hate doesn't happen. They support this quid pro quo system because they love the idea of free market capitalism and small government, but then government becomes so small it's easier to control and has less means to prevent that control.
>>544741835You can have better socialism just like how you can have better capitalism. A balance between the two is best to root out parasites all sides. Libertarian socialism for example creates better incentives and protections for workers and consumers while cutting out the investor class.
Jewish corporatism is much worse.Thatcher the cunt sold out the British oil to her oligarch jew friends.Now look at Britain lel. If you have jews in the corridors of power it doesn't really matter what ideology they use as a facade.
>>544736597>>544737297>>544737560>>544738469>>544739408Based. we are a Socialist board. A National Socialist board.
>>544742009Oh look another foreigner pretending they know something about Thatcher . . . .YAWN.
>>544741835If you have a lutheran homogeneous white country it can work.In a multicultural jewish shithole hellscape it's needed to feed the useless subhuman class of parasites. You can't have a multiculti jewish hellscape without jewish communism/corporatism.
>>544741835At this rate of AI and automation, even the people that WANT to work won't be able to in a few decades. Which begs the question, what is capitalism going to do with tens of millions of people that want to work, need to work, but the system has no jobs for? Automation is 100x worse than the immigrants stealing jobs ever will be. Eventually immigrants find new jobs. Eventually immigrants die. Automated jobs NEVER come back.
>>544741783Nigger, the Labour party is a socialist party and has done fuck all about reversing these policies, long after Thatcher was PM. How many more years are you going to excuse before you accept that Labour is responsible for its own policy and actions. It has been around 36 years since the end of her reign, and Labour has had around 15 years total of running the country. Snap out of your fucking delusion man, and accept that Labour is just as responsible for enabling the state of our economic system.
>>544742090So how is the oil business going for Britain today in comparison with for example Norway that chose to nationalize their oil? You useless Paki cunt foreigner.
>>544737200Taxation used to be just a sink to destroy money at the other end of the money supply, now I’m not even sure it’s necessary and we’re all just giving 1/3 of our paychecks for nothing
>>544742025A Christian National Socialist Board.
>>544742126Honestly. Fewer work hours, or voluntary work means we can focus on family building. The system we have right now where both men and women work has resulted in crashing birth rates. What's the point of an economy when there are no people to serve.
>>544736525>Posting hogslop from Goy billionaire you worship on twatterKill yourself faggot
>>544742175Americans have two options of governance, Jewish communism/marxism or jewish corporatism.
>>544742025Best thing about us is everyone is here,Even if it is just to growl and spit at each other.
>>544742174>You useless Paki cunt foreigner.Here we go.I expose you for being a clueless dummy and you just reply with even more stupidity.Go worry about your own country.
>>544736525It's ironic that the riots in France were initiated by students complaining about the poor conditions of their classrooms. The most telling indication of how ruinous socialist policies are is to look at the consequences of the French government making university education free for everyone. On the outside, the French have these ornate neoclassical buildings. But on the inside, the French universities look like a third world demilitarized zone. Free university education in France has made their universities universally awful. No money for basic sanitation. Student to teacher ratios like you'd find in India. Equipment and facilities from the 1960s.
>>544742400>Dodging the questions>Can't refute my claims>I-i-i exposed u!I accept your concession.
>>544742423>initiated by students complaining about the poor conditions of their classrooms.They jewish newspaper article said it must be true...
>>544742423>It's ironic that the riots in France were initiated by studentsNo it wasn't.The protests were but the riots are something completely different.>>544742455>I accept your concession.Twat.
>>544742282The point was, the only answer we have to this right now is social safety nets and welfare. Otherwise we'll have 50x more people sleeping on the street and starving out. And 50 million desperate people will lead to bad things I cannot describe without being put on a watchlist. Guillotine.jpg
>>544742423Rioting has been France's national pasttime for like 300 years now.
>>544742529>The protests wereFalse narrative created by the jewish media and you gobble it up like a cunt.
>>544736597Capitalism is just socialism for billionaires and corporations. The jews will rule us until the masses figure that out.
>>544742331>Marx explains that the state apparatus prints money to protect the bourgeois interests controlled by the capitalist class What did marx mean by this???
>>544742560>The point was, the only answer we have to this right now is social safety nets and welfareTo some extent this is true but it cannot work with open borders as too many people claim for something they haven't contributed to.
>>544736525All true. Notice how its only the brown failures of society that think socialism works.
>>544742879Is it your impression you live under capitalism?
>>544739515>being demonized for helping find fraud?Oh bullshit. He took a sledgehammer to the government and called it "efficiency". To him, that means firing half the workers and throwing the rest of the work of the work on everyone left.
Good goy
>>544742772"Open borders" is such a nebulous claim it means almost nothing to me. The people who tell you Obama had open borders will swear that trump1 did not, Despite the numbers being relatively similar. In america you only have open borders when the Republicans feel like branding you with it.
>>544742994uhhh what? Trump sealed the border. Nobody came in, 3 million left. The population decreased. The foreign-born population took a huge dive. Obama kept the border open. Plenty came in. A lot were sent back, but only to match the amount that came in.
This is the wrong time, Britain is finally admitting we need to rebuild our industrial sector after she tore it down
>>544742994Oh - you are talking about the USA?I was stating from the UK perspective and the last 20 years or so.
>>544742759I've got something better. Why don't wonder instead why one of his communists planks was about having a central bank.
Central banking is a core component of the Communist manifesto.A progressive income tax is a core component of the Communist manifesto.People want to call this capitalism, like the guy worth $1 trillion actually earned that with his own labor.
>>544743101She didn't tear anything down, the unions already did that, she put an end to throwing good money after bad.
>>544743077A). I said trump1. You know, his first term.B). The correct reply would be numbers, not feels.>Plenty came in.See, this is on the criminals themselves, not so much on the president. If 3 million people bumrush the border like they did under Biden, are you going to accuse trump of having open borders, or just Biden?
>>544736525>the mother of uk's universal healthcare>this is why socialism is badMusk is not a very intelligent man.
>>544743105Sorry, Americans are self centered like that. But yeah, I get it from your perspective
>>5447365255k checks when?
>>544743160Who benefits from our current system of central banking?
The red shields. The wealthiest family ever yet they never make any list of the richest people in the world so the normies seethe at Elon Musk and his flying car scam instead. The family that controls the city of London. The city that King Charles is not allowed to enter without permission.
>>544736525I love socialism.Free healthcare.Free childcare.Free college.And it isn't other people's money - it's our money, the people of the nation. Paying taxes isn't Communism retardo fatsos.
>>544743230lol
>>544743243
>>544738430Why didnt you? The subsidies were there.Musk just fit his business around them.
>>544743394
>>544736525Musk is a traitors cuck who was literally saying AI is good cus we'll all be on UBI or some shit.
>>544743492Let's see.... Yeah trump1 and Obama's numbers look about the same. Which is what I claimed.
>>544742162The bitch gave my grandfather a middle class life. Where is that a personal complaint? I've specifically eschewed any notion that I have personally suffered due to the Iron lady as if my grandfather was a coal miner. My other grandfather went to Canada and mostly skipped Maggie for no specific reason other than circumstance.I personally don't give a fuck either way and think either side of the muh Maggie debate is played out crap.> She stole the children's milkYeh, one little measley fucking finger she did.........then the next and at once a whole fist around your children's future, and the other with dick in hand.Her reign was the start of full on liberal globalism.....They've all been liberal globalist stooges since. Left and right? yeh body blows to the electorate.They are all liberal globalists, what the fuck does it matter if they are a conservative liberal globalist or a socialist liberal globalist. It's a fucking pantomime you mong. They all drink in same pub together and fuck each others wives.Why are you so utterly incapable of separating ethnic nationalism and liberal globalism. Why the fuck do you think one liberal globalist is any better than the other, or separate them by leg as if it ain't same fucking body striding forward.Cunts all live within a few miles, go to same schools, drink at same pubs, fuck each others wives, share cocaine and kids since Maggie.
>>544738619With money they had already taken from previous taxpayers.
>>544738430Those groups were corrupt and wasteful. No need for them
>>544743479Ok but what is your opinion on an actual socialist movement: https://archive.ph/eB44m
>>544743479'Free healthcare' means queuing for several months to see an oncologist after your doctor tells you you have cancer, you communist dickhead.
>>544743797The constitution of Latvia is explicitly socialist and nationalist. This country legally exists solely for the survival and betterment of the Latvian people.
>>544743923Meh in an all-white country it can work well. I wouldn't be in favor of it, but I won't deny it works when you have super high social capital.
>>544743367>Who benefits from our current system of central banking?The same groups that push capitalism and socialism. As I have said in this very thread, the mechanism is the problem. Remove the mechanism (central bank), you remove the problem. Marx isn't a friend of the people, he just enables a different wing of the same imperial extraction system.
>>544743923Maybe try not letting 8 trillion brown monsters into your country mate.
>>544743686>Those groups were corrupt and wasteful.Well good thing the corruption has gone down sinc-OH WAIT IT'S A FULL FUCKING MAGNITUDE WORSE, and the government budget is 17% higher, and good luck getting any decent service from any of the gutted agencies.
>>544743797>Ok but what is your opinion on an actual socialist movementNTAI have spoke to Latvians the same age as myself and they lived through Socialism within the USSR. It had it's advantages . . . of course there were also disadvantages but many older people lament the loss of communism as living was much easier. >>544743994see my comment above . . .what are your thoughts on this?
>>544743994Ok so that is a socialist group in America, which is currently being mega-shilled on 4chan, and the mayor of New York City is a member.They believe in the complete abolishment of police and prisons. They believe in taxpayer funded transgenderism. The complete abolition of borders and immigration enforcement. Anti-white policies like reparations and affirmative action, as well as money for nonwhites and jews. Changing all the political systems so they never lose power. Rewriting the constitution to make this all permanent.
>>544744101Socialism is the optimal form of government to live that enriching rural Latvian village life.
>>544736597/thread
>>544744027Maybe your socialist bullshit doesn't work because you are incentivising the shittiest standard of care for the greatest number?
>>544744138I don't think the Latvian anon recognises that sort of woke socialism mate, it's not what they had.
>>544736525That same Margaret thatcher that ran out of money and privatized her whole country and closed all of UKs industry?
>>544744138That was shitposted onto a site by someone on the fringes of the DSA. No actual credible DSA politicians support any of these policies.>As well as money for JewsGoddamn I enjoy watching miggers cling to their shreds of "muh Antisemitisms".
>>544743194It’s pretty wild. I’m tired of these globohomo jew marxist formation efforts.
>>544744263>views from another universe.
>>544736597The way Elon actually made his money is, yes, on government contracts. But primarily on "asset inflation".When there's a lot of inflation and debt, the money flows into assets like housing, stocks, and assets generally start going way up. The gains in wealth in recent years among the billionaires have been mostly due to their assets appreciating, rather than their direct earnings. Elon Musk is no exception. The root of the problem here is the debt-based financial system. The currency tied to debt. The federal reserve system in itself. Why is our monetary system set up as this weird house-of-cards where debt pays off other debt? Why are things like this?
>>544744254>hadWe're still socialist or even communist by American standards. The two biggest tax payers in Latvia are government run natural resource oriented operations and all Latvians get free Healthcare by law.
>>544743562Half the Russian oligarchs kids live in London. That's why Putin (installed by Kissinger) won't nuke it. The other half are in Israel. Putin once took his family on vacation to Israel and toured the entire country. The United States, India and Israel. None of these three countries are independent. They're all run from the city of London. The United States is a company chartered under British maritime law. It's the West India Company. India is still the East India Company. The Fabian Society is all over India. Nehru was a member of the Fabian society. Israel is the Rothschilds pet project also run from London. Doesn't matter if Burnham does some taken sanctions on west bank settlers. It's theater and obfuscation. The Tories are still ride or die with Israel. As are Labor Friends of Israel and such on the left end. Where is Marx buried now again btw?
>>544744346ooofhttps://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/serials/files/cato-journal/2017/2/cj-v37n1-7.pdf
>>544744388>. The gains in wealth in recent years among the billionaires have been mostly due to their assets appreciatingThe fuck are you smoking? It's primarily due to the AI tulip craze and insane VC speculation. Then you get so almighty valuated that they bend the rules to list your stock in the big indexes, and people are automatically obligated to hold your bags in the Index Funds.You might as well be talking about crypto assets appreciating.
>>544744323Are you denying that Mamdani believes in the abolishment of immigration enforcement, the abolishment of prisons, and taxing whites to pay nonwhites, reparations, and affirmative action.....etc? He supports all that stuff. >That was shitposted onto a site by someone on the fringes of the DSAOh and I suppose you know that personally? You couldn't possibly be inventing that in your own head eh?
>>544738589why did you not fund paypal or did your dad?
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>>544744533>The fuck are you smoking? It's primarily due to the AI tulip craze and insane VC speculation.It's not just Elon, nor is it just AI. It's across the board. All the assets are going up. All billionaires are surging in wealth these days. It's mainly because the paper-value of their assets increase. Just like housing has. This is all because of the Federal Reserve.
>>544744138>complete abolishment of police and prisons.Nah, most of us don't want that, that's where we're gonna put trump and his family>taxpayer funded transgenderismAll medicine. We're going to completely dismantle the medical cartel.>The complete abolition of borders and immigration enforcement.Nah, just streamlining the immigration process and giving deportations back to the organizations that did it before ICE>Anti-white policiesYep. See, we're both racist, I just believe in hating one more race than you do. >Changing all the political systems so they never lose power. Trump openly said he's trying to do this for Republicans. Why would you be against it now? Because it's not you that will be in power forever?>Rewriting the constitution to make this all permanent.Based. But that'll take a 2/3rds majority. Hope we get it. Hey, if you don't like it, just get a 2/3 majority and change it back
>>544744388>Why is our monetary system set up as this weird house-of-cards where debt pays off other debt? Why are things like this?Because we are slaves. We are born in plantations, not nations. When you start seeing the system like that, everything makes more sense. Currency inflation is the whip. If that fails, the slavers use policy like capital gains tax, death tax, inheritance tax, unrealized gains tax, you get the picture.
>>544744558I'm sure you'll be happy to provide a single source of him saying he holds any one of those positions.
>>544744558Mamdani's literally building a prison, and was assisting ICE operations in New York. You can prove he's not trying to abolish prisons and immigration enforcement.
>>544742941Its my impression that you're brown.
>>544744658If it weren't for AI, the US economy would be contracting.
It's funny how Elon Musk is relying on a dead (presumably) geriatric bitch to make his opinions seem relevant
>>544736525Thatcher is a girlboss though, nobody likes a girlboss.
>>544744447>We're still socialist or even communist by American standards.What I meant to say was that woke socialism in the USA with it's LGBT shit, abolishing police/prisons, ridiculous DEI, etc. is not something that is rampant in Latvia, past or present. It's a different kind.
>>544736525Elon musk is the biggest welfare queen in the world
>>544744773He'll never let observable fact diminish his belief in bogeymen.He'll never accept that he supports the very people who want to economically rape him to death, he sleeps in terror of the Arabs coming in his window to violate his ass cheeks.
>>544744785AI hasn't even really turned a profit yet. Seems weird for it to be propping up an economy just on speculation
>>544744880truth nuke. spacex is literally a parasitic entity unto the fed
>>544744500not clicking on your link.I lived through the Thatcher years and she had some difficult decisions to make at the time.You don't know what you are talking about, I would worry about your own country matey.
>>544744693>All medicineSo transgeneder mutilation surgery is just "medicine" now? So are nosejobs and other highly elective, cosmetic procedures now totally free? What are you talking about? >We're going to completely dismantle the medical cartel.I mean the purpose of Obamacare was to drive prices sky high, so the system would collapse and they could implement a socialist system. So when you complain about high prices, that's your buddy Obama. >Nah, just streamlining the immigration process and giving deportations back to the organizations that did it before ICELMAO holy delusion. You can't possibly believe that. Bro you are retarded. When they say "abolish ICE" they mean, "abolish immigration enforcement". They aren't playing word games with you. >we're both racistSo they have literal anti-white policies. Policies that explicitly target white people, unabashedly. And me calling that out, makes me "racist". Fuck off >Why would you be against it now?Why would I be against crazy communist lunatics having permanent power over my society? Hmm let me think. >Hey, if you don't like it, just get a 2/3 majority and change it backNot when the country is 80% brown people from Mexico and the Middle East. It's not like you just "win the argument" and take it all back. This is a looting operation.
>>544739515Imagine thinking “you bullied Elon” is a valid argument against “all billionaires see themselves as outsiders”You’re a fucking pussy ass bitch kek
>>544744558And even if he DID want everything you say he does, he's just a mayor. Mayors can't do that.
>>544744449Virtually the entire world is run from London. They have a hub in Switzerland they divert some operations to as well. Then there's the whole EU and NATO system they also run. The EU hq is located in the capital of a meme country London once created. Then there's mitosis kayfabe like Brexit. London does this a lot. Ostensibly splinter on the surface while still more or less remaining intact. Now they're pretending Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland is getting more autonomy too. But it's just more theater. It's a clever business model to obfuscate with this kind of mitosis. Got to hand it to them. Then there's Iran which London also runs. Since 1925. But as controlled opposition since 1979.China is beholden to Kissingers old networks and in on it all too.
>>544744323Its in the dsa 2025 platfom manifesto on the party website. I know socialists are all frauds but claiming none of them actually belives in socialism isnt the win you think it is.
>>544744025Central banking thrust western society into space and industrialization, why is it a bad thing? Marx pointed out that central banking within capitalism doesn't benefit the working class, that's all.
>>544744912It's equally "weird" that SpaceX is listed on the stock exchange despite it being far too early under the rules, and never once making a profit. All the AI bullshit is Magic Beans speculation.It's also weird that 18 yr olds can sports gamble in States where it's clearly illegal, because Kalshi is "commodities hedging (on sports), and is regulated ONLY by Donald's cronies.A LOT of weird and crazy shit start happening when the corruption is turned up past 11.
>>544745027socialists are not all frauds either and claiming that socialists are all frauds is not a win either.grow the fuck up. actually learn what a socialist is and talk to one in good faith. i used to be a socialist but i am a commie now so you can either talk to me or talk to a socialist or fuck off. those are your options
>>544744932You are not an American, faggot. YOU won't get any of the shares of spacex because you're a non-American faggot. Seethe some more you commie cuck.
>>544745190lol
>>544745210try again
>>544744070Do you have evidence for your claim of >10x worse?
>>544736525>Bro the government using taxes to do things is bad o algoThis has gotta be the greatest psyop the jews ever played on the goyim. You will still be paying taxes whether the government is strong or weak. Even a weak government has the power to fuck with the individual. The difference is that weak governments are too inept to do anything BUT fuck with people, so that's what they spend 90% of their time doing and you receive zero benefit from your taxes. It's the ultra goy position. You're paying taxes no matter what, so they may as well be used in a beneficial manner by a competent government.
>>544744971>I lived through the Thatcher years- ACKKKKOOOOOOFFF. Yeah, that's right, if you're gonna lie, make it believable at least. Now lower your turban when talking back to me, paki boy.
>>544745238>Do you have evidence for your claim of >10x worse?Seriously?The President's family is raking in billions from Arabs, running crypto rugpulls, people like Lutnick is openly profiting on Tariff money insider investments, the President is selling early-access hot-takes to Hedge Funds for millions a month...it goes on and on and on.
>>544744982>the system would collapse and they could implement a socialist system.A system that's a trillion dollars cheaper than we pay now? A system where the government can cap any drug price they want? Yeah I doubt they want that. >They mean, "abolish immigration enforcement"Then they would have said that. Instead they just specified the group that's executing citizens> me calling that out, makes me "racist". Fuck offYou don't have to play coy with me. You hate every race, so every race got together to hate you back. You're just mad that racism affects you now, same as if affects everyone else.> permanent power over my society?Oh, so it's fine when you have permanent power, but God forbid anyone else have permanent power. Maybe you should reach some sort of agreement with them saying you will never seek permanent power again. >This is a looting operation.They learned from the best. No one has ever looked the office like the trump admin. First president ever to steal billions.
>>544745372I can tell you know what you're talking about
>>544736525>welfare queen musk warns of the dangers of spending other people moneyI can't even
>>544745155True dat
>>544745049As I explained earlier in this thread, creating currency off currency is guaranteed to fail because it expands at a percentage at an ever increasing rate. The collapse is baked into central banking, with good runs lasting around a hundred years. The treasury of the state can create its own currency without interest, but it doesn't because the parasites control the show. Capitalism and socialism are just distractions, and nothing can be more evident of that than the fact both of them use the central banking usury system.
>>544744912The whole system of valuation is fake. It's just a numbers game>our GDP is 2x higher because we took 2x as many loansThe whole system is a house of cards. It's like a dog chasing its own tail. The Fed is the source of everything.
>>544744982>I mean the purpose of Obamacare was to drive prices sky high, so the system would collapse and they could implement a socialist system.What a stupid nigger you are. Joe Manchin himself was the biggest faggot involved in screwing us our of a public option, and John McCain was the only reason the rest of Obamacare was even saved.Are you aware the original source for how the ACA ("Obamacare) worked was a Republican plan created by Mitt Romney? It came straight out of Massachusetts and existed since 2006.Not only are you wrong, you're a disingenuous nigger with no respect for history. And don't take this as me defending Obamacare, its still a handout for insurance companies and hospitals when, as that other poster said, we should be strangling insurance companies to death because they are turbokikes.
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>>544745497That's not an argument.
>>544744912>Seems weird for it to be propping up an economy just on speculationA very, VERY antisemitic notion you have there.
>>544743923I’ve had free healthcare (Medicare) my whole adult life. I’ve never paid for medical insurance.
>>544745484And the Heritage Foundation had a major hand in crafting Romneycare, it should be added.
>>544745425Be my guest and prove everyone wrong, or did the thought police in britain also outlaw critical thinking?>implying you're not in tel aviv
>>544745429But ooooohhhhh look at this hecking cool farting car, anon. He spends that welfare money well, doesn't he?lol lmao even
>>544736525All these people are doing a shitty degraded accelerated form of Latin American neoliberalism. They love Pinochet. This is nothing new
is the entire right wing migger on /pol/ runbook basically "call the Leftist retarded" because it's no wonder you are losing
>>544745597Then Mitt does a 180 and runs AGAINST Romneycare.
>>544745615I wasn't being sarcastic. I was being serious. This is why usage of /s is so popular on reddit. It's very easy to not be able to accurately read sarcasm. Maybe you are autistic? I am autistic.Initially I typed 'also autistic' and I hesitated and thought to write "also autistic" verbatim but I changed my mind and decided to just write this post instead.I'm not insulting you, I promise.
>>544745412>A system that's a trillion dollars cheaper than we pay now?No, because you're comparing with all-white European utopias who only have minor infestations. The US is crawling with 10's of millions of illegal immigrants, welfare leeches, and other sorts. You literally cannot have socialized medicine here. It's not possible. California tried to pass it, and they couldn't make it work financially. When your state is 60% mexicans there's a lot you can't do.>Instead they just specified the group that's executing citizensSeethe tranny. You lie in front of the bulldozer you deserve to get crushed. >You're just mad that racism affects you now, same as if affects everyone else.You're like the retard who goes into Bulgaria, and says "why are these policies so pro-Bulgarian, why are Bulgarians getting special treatment"....etc. Meanwhile my ancestors founded this country, and I've faced discrimination my whole life because I wasn't born with brown skin. Browns are by far, the majority globally. It's not like I have places to run to. >so it's fine when you have permanent powerCommunists have no fucking place in America. They do not belong in America. It's like an alien infestation from another planet. It doesn't belong here. You claim it's unfair you don't get to rule this country. Go to some communist shithole then.>First president ever to steal billions.That has nothing to do with the topic. You're just sputtering out some anti-Trump shit because that's what you listen to all day like an obsessed troon.
>>544745049Usury is usury no matter how much you sugar coat it and no matter what you want to attribute to it that happened in spite of it. This is why leftists fail. You are atomists just like the capitalists also. But you think atomism works if only you're allowed to do it your way instead of the right doing it it's way. I hold my middle finger aloft to you both. And fascists were atomists too. So fuck them too.
>>544745764I have autism, my bad anon. And the other bongs being sarcastic about their shit hole doesn't help one bit.
>>544745764>I wasn't being sarcastic. I was being serious.Considering the sources he is posting comes from Facebook, you could have fooled me.The anon is a dummy.
>>544745784So basically your stance is "No One Should Have Good Things, or Even Attempt To, Because I Hate People That Aren't Pasty Enough".
>>544744880Yes, but he made a car that falls slowy, so fuck you.
>>544745384Not gonna lie, former Trump supporter here. This is fucking hilarious watching Trump crash and burn. But in all seriousness we can't let this guy get the nuclear codes.
>>544745929Facebook? were not in your hooligans page, "lad"https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/13619462.2021.1972416#abstractThatcher didn't do any favors for the trade unions nor the industrial workers. Nah, the iron hoe went full retard with them and killed the UKs resilience.
Also of relevance on the impact of Thatcher's policieshttps://www.economicsobservatory.com/how-has-deindustrialisation-affected-living-standards-in-the-uk
>>544746076Roughly half of Donald's platform in 2015 seemed like great and revolutionary ideas.But it was blatantly obvious by 2017 that he was just bullshitting as usual. Supporting him past that is barely forgivable.
>>544745784>No, because you're comparing with all-white European utopias who only have minor infestations.NTAHold on a second . . . .. they my minor in terms of numbers but as a percentage, they are very noticeable and happened in a VERY short space of time. The welfare state worked for us, up until mass migration in the last 20 years or so and now we have people who have NOT paid a penny into the system claiming all the benefits (80% of Somalians in the UK are on Benefit for example) That's why there are shitloads of third worlders making their way here . . .just for the Gibs. >>544746108>Thatcher didn't do any favors for the trade unionsGood - She did us a favour.
>>544745784>all-white European utopiasYeah, when I think all white utopias, I think Britain and france.>California tried to pass it, and they couldn't make it work financiallyIt did pass, and it has more or less worked. Time will tell though.>Meanwhile my ancestors founded this country, and I've faced discrimination my whole life because I wasn't born with brown skin.100% doubt. Your family had no hand in founding this place, and everyone hates you cause you're a dick, not cause you're white. Nobody hates me, it's clearly a "you" problem.>Communists have no fucking place in America.I agree. I'm a socialist.>That has nothing to do with the topic. You brought up politicians looting america and you don't think the #1 offender is relevant? He's done more looting than pretty much every american politician put together. It's not even close, NO ONE has stolen billions before. And sure as fuck not in a single year and a half
>>544746345If Maggie and Ronald hadn't squished the Unions, we wouldn't have all these super-billionaires and our lives would be much poorer for that.Metaphysically speaking. Factually we are all much poorer FOR having all these billionaires, but you get my drift.
>>544745962Why would you be entitled to have anything you can't produce?I mean I know people like you think you are entitled to people's children's dicks and stuff, but where does that entitlement come from?
>>544745190Someone unironically calling themselves a communist in 2026 is the equivalent of someone walking up to you and declaring themselves to be a pedophile or some other sickening degeneracy. No one will ever take you seriously because you're not a serious person.
>>544746545Lol. LMAO.>U can't manufacture pharma or treat sickness urself, so why should you have health?Take this and run along now.
>>544743923Our "world class" privately funded "Insurance" based healthcare means getting told you cant get treatment because it'll impact shareholder profits while our tax money pays for shitskin invaders getting free ER visits.
>>544746545We're in a thread about a guy who's taken like $40 billion to found his multi-trillion dollar empire, and avoids repaying those taxes like the plague, and you're begrudging somebody who wants what? Food and healthcare?
>>544745538I don't argue with commie faggots. I just shoot them in the fucking face... where you at, comrade
>>544746450>Yeah, when I think all white utopias, I think Britain and france.Up until about 10 years ago, yes. Now they're becoming basket cases as the looting operation is in full swing. >Your family had no hand in founding this placeOh look, you're gonna speak for me and explain my own experience for me>everyone hates you cause you're a dickYou scared little man? I've published scientific papers, what have you done? Read some marxist bullshit? >You brought up politicians looting americaThe looting operation is the marxist idea to redistribute wealth from the white countries to everyone who isn't white. Basically to destroy the white countries and overrun them, because a lot of them hate the west for their own grievances. These policies were never intended to work, they were intended to destroy. Useful idiots believe in the rhetoric and the slogans.
>>544746609>But associate constantly with pedophiles, go to their Island Rape Retreats (for info gathering?), hide a mountain of evidence that might reveal your participation....and you are my bro!
>>544746510Unions died long before the 1980s and they only ever had any power at all because for a brief moment in time circumstances created a situation where here skilled workers had significant bargaining power. That time has long past. Helped in part by the very shitlibs who champion unions the most.
>>544746821>Posts democrats.I dont hang out with politicians. You do hang out with troons tho. The left always projects.
>>544746510>If Maggie and Ronald hadn't squished the UnionsI can't speak for the USA but certainly the Unions in the UK needed to be smashed, they held the country to ransom in many nationalised industries and fucked up private companies too but I will also add that mismanagement and corporate take-overs were also responsible for the manufacturing loss in Britain.
>>544745384You have some cladistics issues.The Arabs purchased a digital asset from a willing seller, at the fair market value. The FTC has no grounds for fraud, and the currency was listed per SEC guidelines.Lutnick purchased the rights for tarriff rebates from willing sellers at fair market prices adopting 100% of the risk for cash.The President who was cancelled on twitter a private company, and subsequently built his own competing website is charging for API access, same as twitter does for the various noise excitement algo's.Also Hedge funds are largely out of business, you'd be much better off saying Trading firms to encompass the breadth of the private equity and family offices that are more prominent today.Perhaps you could define corruption for us?None of these functions violate fair use, nor discriminate any member of the public.Speaking fees, art sales, book deals on the other side are all legal as well. There's nothing stopping anyone else from building a twitter clone, a shitcoin, or a paper purchasing firm.Is there some private definition of corruption you are using or is profit illegal?
>>544746858So basically you know nothing about Unions, the history of Unions, the legislative death by a thousand cuts of Unions....Yet you have opinions on Unions.
>>544745384If you can't coherently provide information, you probably vote democrat. Gas yourself before you eat your children or some shit.
>>544746821Fuck Trump. Fuck Musk. Fuck the entire Epstein class. And yes fuck Capitalism. But are you just going to ignore that pic of Chomsky with Bannon at Epstein's place I already posted? Of course you will. Because you have no honest bone in your entire being.
>>544746791>I've published scientific papers, what have you done?Name 7.> looting operation is the marxist idea to redistribute wealth from the white countries to everyone who isn't whiteAnd trump is relevant because he's not white, he's orange. >Useful idiots believe in the rhetoric and the slogans.Like "make america great again" or "america first". See, the problem with "america first" is that they never fucking get around to helping america. It's the first thing on their agenda, and they have no intention of even doing the first thing they said they'd do.
>>544746933>The Arabs purchased a digital assetTrump coin is unsellable without Trump's personal say-so, it's not an asset. It's an interest free loan to Donald J Trump.Stopped admiring your mental gymnastics right there and read no further.
>>544746951I know far more about unions and the reason they had power than you ever will because you mythologize them. Automation and mass immigration have totally undercut workers bargaining power. Ai will only add to that. Shitlibs always look as brief historical oddities, call it progress, and think thats the future forevermore even in cases like with unions where their days of power are decades in the past.
>>544747031Man you're so asshurt by Trump. You just start spouting off about Trump randomly like a trained parrot, even when it has nothing to do with anything. He owns your brain.
>>544746951You only seem to have opinions about Maggie and Ronald but not about what Slick Willie got up to in the 90s and put his pen to (it was a Republican congress though and I'm aware of that before you screech over it but it's Clinton that signed it all in the end anyway).You're not honest. At all. Fuck Republicans. Fuck Tories. But fuck you too.
>>544747013>If you can't coherently provide informationLutnick's trades on Tariff Rebates is public informationDonald's sell of Truth Social hot takes to Quant Hedge funds was publicly mentioned by the Trump Foundation ON TRUTHDonald's net worth doubling on foreign gifts/bribes/access fees is also public knowledge, as is his selling of pardons to convicted fraudsters for hearty donations.Really you have to bury your head pretty deep in the sand to have ignored this constant drum beat of wanton corruption.
>>544746951The solution to our problems isn't unions. We have a robust regulatory state, it's not like people are dying in mining accidents and shit.The problem with wealth disparity is about immigration, technology, and the Federal Reserve system. The Fed issue slides under the radar these days, when they're behind so much of it.
>>544747248I'm not here to shit on the Dems who are running the country into the ground; they aren't running anything. I am here to shit on Dogefather and Don the Con, who are writing new rules for fraud (no rules).
>>544747235Well he his little war has cost the average household $2000 so far this year, while the billionaire doubled his wealth. So, Yeah, it's kind of on my mind.
>>544736525Reminder dear Anons: being redpilled on socialism problems do not preclude the intent to economicly rape you with capitalism (!=free market)
>>544747235No wait, just checked the numbers, he tripled his wealth so far. He's up to $7 billion
>>544747368>The solution to our problems isn't unions. We have a robust regulatory stateThe regulations are written by corporate lobbyists, without a counter-party to sit opposed to that lobbying, corporate makes the rules by which they are "governed".Unless you are suggesting the inherent nobility of the Regulatory State, in which case let me laugh directly into your face. The current SCOTUS roster is also being plied with corporate gift packages, which is why corporations can wantonly buy elections now.
>>544747317Trump's so tacky. It's always gold this and gold that.
>>544747317Yet all people do about it is piss and moan online...
>>544745474You can judge central banking all you want, but people like you never come up with a solution, I hate to keep referring to the guy, but marxs vision of a central bank wasn't based off currency or fiat money, it was a credit based central banking system. Which we are ironically steering towards anyways it seems. Also, interest will always exist, otherwise you'll end up in hyperinflationary periods.
>>544747645I can't drive to Florida and punch Don in the face, he has heavily armed bodyguards 24/7.I just vote against the GOP as hard as I possibly can. Locally and at the Federal level.
>>544742025fascism, and in turn nazism, is a tool made by capitalists to blind the masses with nationalist ideals
>>544747432Didn't run anything to the ground? Didn't help set the stage?Sure. Let's run over just Bill Clinton (because he also is the most consequential and butterfly effect of them all) real fast. Coming up next post.
>>544747645And for what it's worth, if Don had run as a Dem, defeated Joe in the Primaries and ran against Jeb! or Flyin' Ted, I would have voted against Trump and "his party" as hard as I am now.Because Don is an out and out crooked scumbag of the highest order. He has and will betray anyone who puts a shred of faith in him.
>>544736597FPBP Sadly people are retarded But yes Musk keeps self owning since the H1B1 meltdown XD
>>544747810Bill Clinton's policies contributing to America's (and the world's) current problems:- NAFTA (1993): Offshored millions of manufacturing jobs to Mexico and beyond, gutted the industrial heartland, created the Rust Belt crisis, wage stagnation, and massive trade deficits that still bleed the economy.- China PNTR/WTO (2000): Handed China the keys to global trade, caused 2–5 million U.S. manufacturing jobs to vanish, built today’s economic dependence on a hostile power, and enabled IP theft on a historic scale.- Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act (1999): Repealed Glass-Steagall, let commercial and investment banks merge, directly fueled the casino-style derivatives gambling that blew up in 2008 and created “too big to fail” banks we’re still bailing out.- 1994 Crime Bill: Exploded mass incarceration (2+ million locked up), shattered black and poor families, funded the prison-industrial complex, and created generations stuck in the recidivism/poverty cycle.- 1996 Telecom Act: Unleashed media consolidation; six corporations now control 90 % of what Americans see and hear, turbo-charged propaganda, polarization, and cultural rot.- 1996 Welfare Reform: Kicked millions off lifelong welfare but replaced it with low-wage dead-end jobs and no real safety net; deepened the working poor underclass and single-mother poverty trap.- Doubled legal immigration + massive H-1B expansion: Flooded labor markets, suppressed STEM and working-class wages, strained schools/hospitals/housing, and accelerated demographic change without assimilation policies.- Kosovo bombing (1999): First major “humanitarian” war without Congress, normalized endless executive wars and forever-war doctrine that drained trillions in Iraq/Afghanistan/Libya/Syria.- Ran budget surpluses on the dot-com bubble and one-time tax windfalls while ignoring exploding Medicare/Social Security liabilities, setting the stage for today’s debt bomb when the bubble inevitably popped.
>>544747593This guy understands the taste of capitalist Dick. Have a (You). For masess grinding to the bone in the free market competition, for the commanding heights of cpitalism preferential regulations and free monies from the friends in government.
>>544747853So Trump isn't running anything into the ground. He's a fucking hyena feasting on a corpse.
>>544736597>Musk became a trillionaire off socialism. he has received more government funds than NeroAnd in 5 minutes we all agree his money is imaginary and he made it by pumping his stocks.
>>544747842>Don's a crooked scumbag!Every elected official is on the take. You arent allowed anywhere near DC unless you are. Dems, Repubs, Independents... every last fucking one of them. The Primaries are where the two "parties" filter out anyone who isnt going to play the game and protect the scam. If hoping the actual election can fix it, you're way too fuckin late.
>>544746609Wrong.
>>544747853Anon, the Rust Belt Crisis started in the 70's, and reached it's zenith in the early 80's.Steel plants closed down in the 70's.The very term "Rust Belt" was coined in 1984, by Mondale in response to this crisis.You are a fucking dumbass with his own unique view of history.
>>544747061The Federal Reserve governs loans it is their Jurisdiction.The cash from a sale of goods is certainly an asset even if I adopt your opinion. If you made a shitcoin and sold it to a willing buyer with this disclaimer what is the corruption?https://www.bitstamp.net/s/documents/2025-12-23-White-paper-OFFICIAL-TRUMP-FFG-LJDPGNXXK.xhtmlhttps://gettrumpmemes.com/terms
>>544739515>Musk ended the censorship regime of Twitter,No, he fucking didn't.I know that for a fact, since I am banned on there.Twatter is filled with shills.
>>544748005>Nuked back by the Japanese
>>544747988>Every elected official is on the take. You arent allowed anywhere near DC unless you are.ABSCAM destroyed political careers by showing some Congressmen taking a suitcase of money from some "Arabs".Now we have a President taking 10 figures, "pallets of cash" from Arabs and you tell me "it's just how things are done bro!".You were raving not that many years ago about the idea that Hunter might have peddled as much as a million in influence from Ukraine.Why, it was the POLITICAL FIRESTORM of that time.
>>544744388the currency is tied to debt to discourage them from inflating it even more carelesslyit's supposed to represent a cost to printing moneybut then they do stupid shit like shutting down the economy for the flu and the only way to keep things afloat is massive cash injectionsthe entire government has become incompetent and degenerate and only a fresh start will set things straight
>>544747990An unserious response as expected. Probably for the beat as the other commies itt are making fools of themselves as they attempt to explain their nonsensical, inconsistent ideas.
>>544747853They just ram shit through when people get the glint in the eye> Finally out saviour is hereEither lush shit through or ram shit through depending on public's acceptance of a given leader. You get a choice between a socialist liberal globalist or a conservative liberal globalist. Same destination, one world government liberal globalism.Big part of it is that you can't do that with vastly assymetric cultures and economies so they will do the smashing economies and populations against each other to mix it all up. Eventually everywhere is just as shit as everywhere else.All traces back to the world's first non ethnic civic equals.
>>544736525ironic that the biggest welfare queen says this innit
>>544748005We produce more steel today than we did in ww2. Everything shitlibs have told you is a lie.
>>544748052>If you made up a digital thing that cannot even be traded, and some Arabs hand you 2 billion dollars for your Pokemon NFT's, how is that corruption or bribery?
"How many more times his name is to be pushed aside." - Margaret Thatcher on Jimmy Savile failing to receive a knighthood
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>>544748005You're a goal post moving dipshit. It WORSENED under Clinton. It didn't peak in the 80s like you lie it did. It peaked in the 90s. Clinton took the ball Nixon got rolling (and I'm not denying Nixon is the one who got it rolling so sit your neurotic ass down) and made it roll at light speed. What Clinton was take something Reagan and Bush had tried to push through (NAFTA) and finally got it pushed through. And this was before Republicans took the house in 1994 which I know you would want to blame the other stuff Clinton signed off on. You won't even debunk anything else. Just single one thing out. The usual MO by your ilk.
>>544745049>I am more productive on cocaine, how it could be bad for me?One of main economic problems of our time is the lack of patience
>>544748202Payment for goods and services provided is not welfare anon.
>>544748327See my early posts about automation and immigration totally destroying union bargaining power. Number of workers goes down while goods produced goes up.
>>544747710You could get elected president, and when he goes to shake your hand, you just jaw jack him.Then you claim it was an official presidential act and you face no consequences under the supreme Court ruling.
>>544748144>Obama's 9 figure net worth...>Bush's 9 figure net worth...>Clinton's 9 figure net worth...>Biden's 8 figure net worth...Oy vey, Trump's extra 10 figure corruption is crossing the line!
>>544748341They paid full balance and owe nothing on it?Pretty sure nearly every single Tesla bought us on finance and Tesla would go bust if they actually only took money customers had. Tonnes of IOUs, up to their eyeballs in the IOUs, but actual payments I would think are very low. Mostly just debt on debt.
>>544748402The true question is, why the number of companies was not going up...
>>544748178Yes. The social liberal globalist is the good cop that gets away with stuff the conservative liberal globalist/populist can't get away with. And vice versa really. It's a handy little switcheroo they have that they can pull, isn't it?
>>544748341Public money. Sure he's all for the US military being privatised and sold to foreign bidders like Thatcher did with most of our infrastructure
>>544748239Yes that is the question. It is payment.Bribery requires quid pro quo.If I hire a ghostwriter and publisher to write me a book, and a large donor buys several copies how is that corruption or bribery?
>>544748164You're still wrong. You get an unserious response when you make unserious post.This was a serious post: >>544745190This was a bullshit post: >>544746609You are incapable of arguing rationally. You argue like a hyper emotional woman with BPD.
>>544748329The 2000's were the "great rolling down at lightspeed".You remain ignorant and obsessed with Clinton as your scapegoat for the GOP selling the working man down the river.I know I can't shake your diseased brain from this illogical observation of historical fact.Facts are just too weak to penetrate your thick fucking head.
>>544748499Some rando shitlib buying a tesla has nothing to do with the feds paying for time on starlink. Given the absolute state of your failed state at the moment you really should get a good understanding of what is and is not welfare.
>>544748510Probably because its an old legacy industry where startups are few now and mergers have created giants. You see tons of new companies in new industries like tech.
>>544736525Musk is at least somewhat useful to civilized humanity as space exploration guy, while most progressive billionaires like Rothschilds or Soros are just liberal lumps of cells with assets who live off subsidies and provide negative contribution to society
>>544748630SpaceX is just privatized NASA so the government isnt on the hook anymore when they blow up someone's satellite or 7 astronauts and they can sell technology to foreign countries without dealing with congressional approval.
>>544747716Last time I checked, it was capitalist nations that fought and decisively defeated the Nazis. Oh they allowed private property, they let a man have a home, sometimes even his own little store, Hitler was an anarchocapitalist gobbler right? Fucking commie bulleteater
>>544748564Infrastructure should be commercialized for profit. Just look at how badly the government fucks up everything it runs.
>>544748722If margins go up the number of competing companies should also go up, at least if one really wants to reduce inflation...
>>544748454>Obama's 9 figure net worth...Obama and Michelle combined are worth $70 million. That's...not 9 figures.The Bush's were oil billionaires before Dubya sought high office.Bill Clinton is worth $120 millon, NOW. He was worth maybe $2mil when he stepped down. None of which was "gifts" from foreign powers.When Trump slinks out of office, I don't give a fuck where he takes money from, as long as it's not selling boxes of State Secrets.None of these Presidents vastly increased their wealth through their office/while in office.
>>544748601>Please take me seriously says the pederast.
>>544748787Go for it, might as well make jewish ownership of the USA official
>>544745049Capitalism is literally just the ability to create abstract legal entities and assign capital value to them. It gives you turbo liquidity and velocity yeh. The main issue is that it is itself an abstraction of real life, if you allow it to be the tail wagging the dog then your economy will become a complete incoherent abstraction of the economy it is supposed to represent.The transfer of debt between legal parties and the ability to sell debt to anyone for any reason under very little scrutiny, and the charging of usury rather than fixed amount. Would be exactly the type of dumb ass fuck shit that would cause the accounting of a capitalist economy to go into the abyss of abstraction.You'd end up with runaway unfettered debt, cunts how died centuries ago's debt still being paid when the thing they bought already broke, total lack of ability to balance production and consumption, everyone desperate to sit on their arse all day making phonecalls then go home to a marble house. All that shit. But capitalism is just fintech, give it to retards (upper class) and they will contract scum (you know who) to abuse it in their favour.
>>544748617Again moving the goalpost and scapegoating only the GOP. The difference between you and me is that I don't fucking scapegoat. I'm not biased. I'm not partisan.The 2000s were a consequence of what Clinton enacted in the 90s on top of the shit Bush also did. This was the status quo and centrism so many dumbasses want to go back to just because Trump psyoped them into wanting to so fucking bad. But again. Trump isn't the one who killshotted it. He's just feasting on the corpse.
>>544749033Yes yes, we are all familiar with the Trump Trope of "Everything I fuck up is the responsibility of past Presidents/Future Presidents, everything is Golden because of me".Fuck off.China and Vulture Capitalism was the death-knell of American manufacturing. It lifted hundreds of millions of Chinese out of abject poverty.It was a nothingburger in Mexico (and Canada, lol?) you can see how it created a prosperous Mexican Middle Class. Dumbfuck.
>>544748732Name one thing he has explored besides your biometrics with Starlink acting as a military network in civilian clothing.
>>544748861>akshually akshually akshually akshually.......They're all fucking war criminals and profiteers no matter how much you relativize and windblow about their respective net worths.Every single fucking US president since Truman up to and including Trump belongs in fucking Gitmo. The end.
>>544749208He did a flyby to make sure the Moon was still there! (it was!)
>>544748630How much debt is your government in to globalist liberals banks and who is legally obliged to pay that debt?I am well aware the government in Britain has been infiltrated by liberal globalists.Keep in mind that America without hegemon is objectively just a slightly better version of Argentina as it always was and will go straight back to if it loses hegemon. So I wouldn't be giving it billy big bollocks. Maybe 15 years ago that was the case, but not today...... new worlder.Who's Americas biggest importer who could just simply pivot to Asia and fuck America right down the drain? Better not do that or America will probably pivot to Russia themselves because they have zero honour, or history for that matter?
>>544748974Tl:drCspitalism like feudalism and communism is about distributing institutions for people to get them rich/powerful. Capitalism and feudalism can additionally earn money selling the institutions. Distinctively, in capitalism other institutions can also buy central government back...
>>544749238>Fact Fact Facts>Now I will start pounding the floor with my hands and feet and sharting my pants with false equivalency
>>544749258I completely forgot they're scheduled to goywash us with the moon again soon. Fuck.
>>544749208He contributed more then any actual country did, may other then Russia. Name a thing that NASA did in the last 5 years, other then losing probes launched in 1970s due to incompetence of girlbosses they were forced to hire by Obama and Biden.
>>544749172Trump isn't i unaccountable. He's a fucking monster too. But that's not the fucking point, assface. STOP. MOVING. THE. GOAL. POST. Stop rehabilitating and whitewashing previous monsters like Bush just because you're so fucking vain and blinded by the current monster that you forget that no this isn't unprecedented. "Good guy" democrat Jimmy Carter was on the board of that fucking ultra corrupt money laundering BCCI bank for example.Hold this entire system and it's butterfly effect through decades of horrible fucking crap it is responsible for long before Trump was politically.Again. Trump is an odious piece of shit. But he's still just a consequence.
>>544749463>Obama lost Voyager beyond our solar systemLMAO, that's an entirely new level of random bullshit, you should see if the Press Secretary job is still vacant.
>>544749631>whitewashing previous monsters like BushWhere?WHERE? Did I even say anything positive about Shadow President Cheney's administration? Go outside and get some air.
>>544749172And again while it's Nixon's admin that first opened China up it's Clinton's admin that first turbo charged them.
>>544749463Never A Straight Answer is a weapons development firm started by satanic occultist and staffed by war criminals and Space X is just taking over distractions duty for DARPA and the MIC. They're going to use Artemis as another cover for more weaponization of space and goys getting buttfucked by his silicon buddy bros.
>>544736597Brvtal trvke
>>544749661 > gagagoogoo strawmanDoesn't change the fact that Musk contributed more to space exploration then most of the actual national governments.
>>544749631>When Jimmy Carter left the White House in January 1981, his personal net worth was effectively negative or near zero, as his family's peanut farm and warehouse business was roughly $1 million in debt.Trump has taken in, from foreign powers, WHILE IN OFFICE, more wealth than the total historical personal wealth of the last 10 Presidents combined.I don't give a fuck about Obama or Clinton or Bush or anyone else making millions on books and speaking engagements OUT OF OFFICE.If people want to pay Trump to show up and PISS AND FUCKING MOAN ABOUT 2020 for the 10,000th time WHEN HE'S OUT OF OFFICE, idgaf.
>>544736707That's literally what she was talking about.Printing money devalues the money in your savings account and your wages, money printing is a tax on everyone.
>>544749744Sounds awesome I can't wait to see this tech being used to break up EU.
>>544749327I HATE DONALD TRUMP AND ALWAYS HAVE YOU INSINCERE SLITHERING DISHONEST DISHONERABLE PIECE OF FILTHDoesn't change the fact you're still moving the goal post. You're still laundering for prior presidents. You're still trying to rehabilitate them just because of current president being unheard of levels of sudden bad and stuff which is a routine you fucks ad nauseum with every current Republican president. You're the exactly the kindof shameless fuck that's going to launder and rehabilitate Trump as well eventually. I know this playbook by now. I wasn't born yesterday.
>>544749848>Doesn't change the fact that Musk contributed more to space explorationName one thing he has explored. He made cheaper relandable rocket stages. He hasn't discovered a single thing. He has yet to achieve a single milestone in exploration.
>>544736707>Musk is by far the largest beneficiary of this.The amount of money Musk took as subsidies is a drop in the ocean compared to the amounts wasted on boomer social security and migrant welfare.
>>544750080> He made cheaper relandable rocket stages.That's already more then what national governments did with astronomically bigger funding.
>>544749308You are a fucking retard.It's about legal personage and what can become a legal entity It was:IndividualsCompanies of menAbstract legal entitiesFeudalism, mercantilism, capitalismInstitutions don't exist in feudalism. They will call it the institution of marriage but it can only be institutionalised once an abstract legal entity of it can be made. Before you said 'we are married and this guy witnessed it'.To institutionalise it you would have to create a marriage certification which is an abstract legal entity which is capitalism.> London stock exchange 1801> civil marriage certificates 1837The modern state is an abstract legal entity numbnuts. You have to invent capitalism first or alongside.> First marriage certificates 1575> Act of Abjuration 1581> Amsterdam stock exchange 1602Capitalism is just abstract legal entities, that's what an institution is, a type of abstract legal entity.
>>544750031Biden left office with a whopping $10 dollars. That's barely enough to purchase a Pardon from Trump. Clinton and Carter left with no financial gains whatsoever from being President, and simply monetized their writings and speeches thereafter.The Bushes were rich before and roughly the same leaving office.It's DONALD J TRUMP who has tripled his personal wealth, NOT FROM SAVVY INVESTMENT, but from bribes and gifts from foreign nations, bald-faced trading on market manipulation, crypto scams, and pay-for-pardons.There is no equivalency to Trump and ANY Modern President. He's surpassed Banana Republic tiers of corruption.
>>544750295*$10mil
>>544749725You're exactly the kind of asshole who would. But I preempted you.>>544749924Doesn't change that he was on the board of BCCI. Stop doing this virtue spiral around how hecking le humble and modest one monster is compared to another monster. It's not fucking relevant. The bank that helped give the world bullshit like Iran-Contra (Carter was on the board of the bank that laundered the money while Bush and North ran the operation as such) which is also what gave us Epstein pretty much. And Trump is a major figure in it all as well if that's any comfort to you.
>>544750295>Bald faced Trading and Market manipulation? Where?I'm certain the SEC would love to hear this.
>>544750389>Doesn't change that he was on the board of BCCI.For apparently non-money reasons?Meanwhile we imported 60 MILLION lbs of tainted freezer scrap beef from a Brazilian company that just happened to be Trump's #1 2024 donor. Which is getting mixed into fast food and grocery burger. The President of said company being a personal friend of Don's whore wife.The same company that bribed the GOP into removing "origin labeling" from beef imports, and made then-Speaker Boehner a member of THEIR board.
