According to wikipedia, seed oils are actually good for you.
>>544751027Explains Japan
>>544751027theyre not good for you but theyre also not as bad for you as schizo retards believe they are
>>544751027Safe and effective.
>>544751155Read what you wrote slowly to yourself.
>>544751027According to wikipedia, the holocaust actually happened
>>544751287The point he's trying to make is that beef tallow can clog your arteries which isn't good for you either.
Yeah, if there was a problem, we probably would have noticed over the last 200 years - 4000 years. Just sayin.
>>544751027>>544751179eat the bean oil goy. its safe and beneficial
>>544751027Wikipedia is correct. The carinvore thing was just people who want to eat meat but can't into science making shit up to fool themselves into thinking it's good for them.Trans fats are probably bad. Saturated fats aren't as bad as once believed, but seed oils are beneficial. Perhaps overcooking seed oils is bad but the oils themselves are fine. Perhaps reusing them for weeks in a deep fryer is bad but don't eat fast food and you're fine. Just fry stuff at home.
>>544751287why tell others to read when you can’t.
>>544751027>US food industry creates vectors to store industrial waste in humans making them obese, diabetic and cancerous driving profits throughout the socio medical complex, reducing the lifespan of pensioners and in increasing GDP across-the-boardsThe seed oils are safe goY
>>544751027what do you sneed oil faggots think hunter gatherers ate? hmmmwhen i tell people that the "buy my fat" wars have been going on for over 100 years they look at me like im some sneed oil faggot. its so shit.the only truly shit oil is canola. do not eat that its proven shit.
>>544751894Linoleic Acid percentage is the key. Lower the better.
Look, I can listen to dieticians and doctors and other experts or I could listen to Joe Rogan. Do you really expect me to go against Rogan?
>>544751736das rite, we've been hydrogenating bean oil for 6 million years goy.
I don't care about memes or fads, I can use my own eyes and ears Old people here easily live to their 80s and 90s. Our life expectancy is way above many mainly butter based countries. We are one of the biggest consumers of sneed oils in the planet (sunflower and olive oil)This should tell you something.Dietetics is on the same level as horoscope reading and basically you're fucking retarded.
>>54475112824 min markhttps://youtu.be/sKR1ZdHXXzo?&t=1451
>>544752057>my body cannot hydrogenate the oils it consumesare you a genetic defect? birds don't seem to have a problem with this. neither does any other grain fed farm animal
>>544752288Are you industrial waste storage device? The body doesn’t seem to have any problems storing industrial waste masquerading as food. Eat up simpatico
>>544751027Probably is, it's most likely lectins in grains doing that
>>544751287you know rajesh you cant just repeat random phrases you see on the White internet and expect it to make sense in whatever context you spew it
>>544752288• Step 1: Dietary Influx: Modern refining increases linoleic acid (LA) intake from ~2% historically to 6-10%+ of daily calories.• Step 2: Particle Oxidation: LA incorporates into LDL particles. Because it is highly polyunsaturated, it oxidizes easily in the bloodstream, forming OXLAMs (Oxidized Linoleic Acid Metabolites).• Step 3: Endothelial Infiltration: Oxidized LDL penetrates the delicate arterial wall (the endothelium).• Step 4: Immune Response: Macrophages consume the oxidized particles, ballooning into immobile foam cells.• Step 5: Plaque Build-Up: Dead foam cells accumulate, forming a necrotic lipid core and driving localized arterial inflammation.
>>544751348Yeah it's funny when people think a certain fat is bad then logically a different type must be good, it has to be a dichotomy with them
i already eat a lot of animal fat whenever i eat meat so i think it's okay to balance it out with vegetable oils. as long as they're not toxic it's good to eat a bit of everything.
>>544752574all food is good. the problem is people eat too much of it, or sometimes too little of it (lack of variety) and they get problems.
>>544752751In the United States we have 10,000 ingredients in our food supply. In comparison to the EU which has 400 ingredients in their food supply. Ultimately it’s the same offering of food however the US system is highly processed modified and subjected to additives. So not all food is healthy.
>>544752751That's a nice thought but simple assumptions like that can badly hurt or kill you. Anything too processed or deep fried, anything with too much sugar harms you. I'm pretty bad for it, I eat chocolate etc but I know it's bad
>>544752875The biggest problem with seed oils is restaurants that deep fry and constantly reuse them which create horrible oxidation profiles and become extremely carcinogenic and toxic. If restaurants use single-serving seed oils to fry, meaning each fried dish with uniquely fried and oil then it wouldn’t be as bad. Additionally you can’t take home leftovers and reheat them in the microwave.This is why animal fats with their single bonds are overwhelmingly better for fraud food.
>>544752564>from ~2% historically to 6-10%+ of daily caloriesthe problem that "daily calories" is now way more than you should be gonsumingif you simply didn't eat that 4-8%+ extra you are eating in 2026 compared to the middle ages then you wouldn't have a foam party in your bloodstream
>>544752816Euros are only like that because they get severe social shame if they eat something different to the old ladies of the village their parents were born in.I'd say California has the strictest food safety laws, even if it is just disclosure. I see those "residents of California" warnings all the time and if it wasn't for that nobody would know
>>544752983> Fried foodFucking phone
>>544752816>10,000 ingredients ... 400 ingredientsthat sounds like absolute nonsense>subjected to additivessome things like food colouring or preservatives sound nasty, but they're such small quantities that i don't think it matters in the big scheme of things. for example fish has highly toxic heavy metals but you're still better off if you eat fish than if you don't. you will only have problems due to additives/heavy metals if you decide to follow the "tuna can diet" or the "apple juice diet" or some other bullshit diet like that.
>>544752986No the problem is they’ve substituted these oils into everything so now people are actually closer to 20% of their daily calories from these types of synthetic fats
>>544752986Don't even need to go to the middle ages just look at photos from the 1970s and so many people are skinny
>>544752875>chocolatemost gope food is made with palm oil now. i dont know how healthy that stuff is in theory but i know its only made by brownoids at the end of the world, so if i were you i would probably stay away from that stuff
>>544753024Nah it was an acceptable typo
>>544753036>RFK Jr.'s point regarding systemic regulatory differences is true. The U.S. relies heavily on industry self-policing via the GRAS system, whereas the EU acts with much greater regulatory restriction, forcing food companies to clean up their ingredient lists for European consumers.That was actually a quote from RFK jr our health secretary.
All this food wars retardation is just obese retards trying to find the one excuse for why they're obese and retarded.
>>544753094I know it's so much sugar and lead in it. I will buy a block of it and it doesn't even make it home, I eat the whole block driving home (manual car btw)
>>544752875i don't believe deep fried food or sugars can kill you as long as they're part of a balanced diet. of course if you exclusively eat KFC buckets you will see some problems after a few months/years and maybe it will kill you but one KFC bucket every week should be fine.
>>544752983I haven't ea6in restaurants in 20 years and even back then it was about once a year or less. It's disgusting, they use the cheapest shit they can get away with and there are jeets who wipe their ass with their hands in the supply chain
>>544753163No it’s because chemical companies and food companies figured out in the United States they can use the GRAS FDA system to sneak in industrial waste streams into food instead of disposing of them. The next time you see fat Americans walking around realize that they’re walking fat industrialized waste storage containers masquerading as people. This keeps food inflation down and saves these companies trillions of dollars and not having to properly dispose of this industrial waste.
>>544753292Couldn’t agree more! What a shame in what the world has become
>>544753233I'm talking about when you're a boomer. You might have a stroke it get dementia and live with Filipinos cleaning the shit off your ass after you've been lying on it for hours. You'll survive for a decade before you finally die
>>544753084yeah because they didn't eat as much and they were more mobileunsaturated fats don't magically have more calories. in fact they have slightly fewer per unit mass because -CH2=CH2- doesn't have as much energy as -CH3-CH3-
>>544753343The world is fairly bad now but our trajectory is so violently downward I worry about things sometimes. We're going to have the same world + majority browns and what will that look like lol
>>544752983>single-serving seed oils to fry, meaning each fried dish with uniquely friedyeah the world aint ready for 10 dollars per 125g of fries from mcGoynalds or 15 dollars for the same from a non franchise
>>544753578You know that cyro freeze movement of the 70s, it would be great to get a sample of their tissue from then and compare to all the oxidized shit and heavy metals in our bodies
>>544753674In the Anglo world it's still possible to find beef tallow fried chips, probably the same in USA although ironically their beef fat is closer to sneed oil because of the feed the cattle are exposed to
>>544753385this usually happens because you're fat, which is caused by eating too much food, not by food itself being bad. look at a burger and tell me what's toxic about it. nothing. every ingredient is healthy? it's just that the texture, and the specific combination of flavors high in sugars, simple carbs and fats allows you to eat 2000kcal of them in a sitting and still not feel full. which means that people who rely on burgers to feed themselves tend to be fat.
>>544752816huh?
>>544753642I agree. We’ve been bred. The planet has been colonized. It seems like “they are here”, and now it’s time to commoditize human intelligence and labor with AI and robotics and scale the population down. Sucks.
>>544753311They can still dispose it but this way when it leeches into the food chain people don't care because it's a good product anyway. Similar theory to fluoride, that's an industrial waste but normies don't care if it's leaking into a river from a factory because fluoride is basically a nutrient to them
>>544753674Agreed but maybe the perspective should be that shareholder profit chasing and exponential growth was always unachievable unless such deplorable methods were utilized.
>>544751027I can eat as much butter as I want, but the inflammation from seed oils in margarine will send my skin spazzing like it wants to jump off my body.t. Eczema haver
>>544753886Here in NZ we have an election coming up, we have a different system to you where small parties can arrive and they all work together as long as together it's over a majority. Don't expect you to care, but I can't help thinking this will be the last election where we vote for humans. In our next election in 3 years time, surely there will be a super AI with excellent ideas and a lot of us will vote for them. Strange thought, and it will probably go well for a while but we will become too reliant on AI and enslaved to it in our lifetime
>>544752986linseed oil has historically been and still is being used for its extreme propensity for polymerization as rust inhibitor and base oil for coatings and paint. in fact it can polymerize so quickly that a cloth lightly soaked in it and put into the sun with no air circulation it'll start to burn all by itself.you do NOT want these chemical processes happening in your body and linseed oil is just the most extreme example.
>>544754069Sounds retarded but I used to get eczema a lot, I don't eat sneed oil and it's basically gone, get a tiny bit in winter but I live in a damp cold environment. I stopped eating it quite a few years before pol did.
>>544754079Thank you for sharing. Very interesting if AI could serve as a minority idea holder for a majority party being voted for by humans. I will research that thank you anon. That sounds especially treacherous and troubling.
>>544753642hahaha, yeah YOU will goy.not the based amish though
>>544754069>>544754179I used to get sores around my hairline and my dermatologist used to tell me it was because I needed to use head and shoulders shampoo with chemicals in it. Completely gone after quitting seed oils. There’s a lot of good people in the medical industry but a lot of them are just reading the manual like an auto mechanic. My skin feels thicker too and I don’t burn in the sun nearly as easy. Additionally much less overall joint inflammation and crickety feeling in my bones.
>>544751027>Pure seed oils>Mass-produced oils in United Banana Republics
>>544754181Already this election all out parties have suspiciously good ideas which made me think of it, they're using AI to make policies. For better or worse USA will be the last one to change since your system is so stubborn
>>544751027Wikipedia isn't what it used to be. If you want to see how bad it's gotten, compare archived wikipedia pages from about 2012 or earlier to the current ones. This is a good article on how wikipedia's neutral pov policy has changed over the years. It includes examples such as the seed oil misinformation page. I recommend reading the entire article, not just the seed oils section.https://digdeeper.neocities.org/articles/wikipedia.xhtml#seedoils
>>5447543912012 is arguably one of the better years for Wikipedia. It could be considered an actual knowledge data set and not wild rampant propaganda, as seen today.
>>544754285>>544754181i'm curious about your experience. what does quitting mean? did you use to eat a lot of it, and now eat absolutely zero? or did you just reduce the amount you eat?
>>544754285Excellent, that was definitely inflammation. Not sure about the sunburn though, I hear it a lot, I'm a sunbather in the summer, I know my burntime within about 5 min for every half month (e.g. now would be about 25 min here) and it genuinely hasn't changed after quitting the old sneed oils and it's a total quit too
>>544751027The 2024 review cited seven times in two paragraphs of this not-at-all-suspiciously polished Wikipedia article was funded by basedbean, corn and canola industry organizations and coordinated by the Onions Nutrition Institute.Another cited study received funding from Unilever.Meanwhile, the United Basedbean Board openly describes funding and promoting favorable seed-oil research, securing media coverage, and working to „reclaim the narrative“.Thank u, LLMs. Following the money through the Wikipedia footnotes has gotten a lot easier.
>>544754452Back when contributors didn't just get banned like in reddit
>>544754553and sadly the anti sneed studies are funded by the alternative fat industries
>>544754377>checkedSometimes it’s hard for me to reconcile that elections or anything but subverted in the US. It’s not that systems are outright fake. It’s that through time they become compromised integrated and small parts of the whole become vulnerable to manipulation by non-elected groups. Normally all that’s required to make massive systemic changes throughout the entire system over large periods of time controlling single digit percentages of election outcomes. I can’t help but to think about the problems with feudalism for those that control everything. Everyone knows who the king or the Lord is for the region. Democracy fixes that problem and obfuscates who’s in control and provides the perfect excuse for blaming the people for voting incorrectly. Hard to swallow.
>>544754464Quitting means cooking everything from single source ingredients from scratch. It was a multi year effort that took tremendous willpower and dedication and I don’t think I could do it if I didn’t work from home. I had a two week period of severe opiate like withdrawals when I first quit seed oils.
>>544751027>safe according to fda>everyone who eat it looks like shit>like a literal fucking ghoul, a servant of nurgle>but its fine because fda said so
>>544754768In the US these oils have been substituted into 85% of the products in our grocery stores. Being cheap cheaper and helping keep food inflation cost down seem to be the justification.
>>544754718We don't really have democracy here it's just a little closer than you. We also have a phenemon called "Tall Poppy Syndrome", it's pretty hilarious because anyone in charge is basically booed and called a loser and it really damages the ego of politicians who were usually the bullied kids in class. So we're always really ready to change sides.USA seems like everyone is voting just to stop the other side get in in an existential fight. Here the polls can't decide if we will have a coalition of 3 parties or 4 in charge kek
>>544751027most things are good for you when you're not a dumbass fatassit's all about moderation and not following fad diets
>>544754768>cooking everything from single source ingredients from scratchgood! i do that already, except when i eat out but that's like twice a month at best. it would be easy to quit seed oils if i wanted but i'm a bit skeptical of the benefits.>had a two week period of severe opiate like withdrawals when I first quit seed oils.that's sounds crazy, couldn't it have been something else you did at the same time? i get "withdrawals" from sugar, but not opiate-like lol.
>>544751027according to kikes goyslop poison they sell is good? shocking!
>>544754951So the thing that really gets me is the coordinated military like cooperation of the Covid lockdowns, consequential vaccine mandate rollouts and untested 5G technology during the lockdown phase almost uniformly across the western world. That type of cooperation has been unheard of in the past. It was World War II like cooperation. We’re supposed to believe that our history is some chaotic random RnG spawn of human evolution but homo sapiens have been around from a 300,000 years and we have less than 3% of our written history. I’m not saying I haven’t either answers I’m simply saying that no one does and they’re most certainly is coordination occurring. Highly multigenerational coordination. You best believe your fucking ass.
>>544754993No they actually work on the same neural receptors as highly addictive drugs. See picrel and quoted explanation below.>The provided visual illustrates how industrial seed oils when combined with sugar and salt to create engineered "bliss point" foods hijack the brain's primary reward and appetite pathways by targeting the exact same neurochemical receptors as highly addictive drugs. First, this hyper-palatable matrix floods the nucleus accumbens with dopamine in a manner identical to cocaine or nicotine, leading to receptor downregulation and intense, anxious cravings when stopped. Second, the excess linoleic acid breaks down into endocannabinoids that lock directly into the brain's CB1 receptors, mimicking the exact mechanism by which THC/cannabis artificially drives continuous appetite stimulation. Ultimately, quitting seed oils triggers genuine physical and psychological withdrawal because you are abruptly cutting off a steady supply chain to heavily desensitized neural receptors, forcing the brain into a temporary, uncomfortable neurochemical recalibration period that typically lasts about two weeks.
>>544755334Oops forgot picrel>The provided visual illustrates how industrial seed oils when combined with sugar and salt to create engineered "bliss point" foods hijack the brain's primary reward and appetite pathways by targeting the exact same neurochemical receptors as highly addictive drugs. First, this hyper-palatable matrix floods the nucleus accumbens with dopamine in a manner identical to cocaine or nicotine, leading to receptor downregulation and intense, anxious cravings when stopped. Second, the excess linoleic acid breaks down into endocannabinoids that lock directly into the brain's CB1 receptors, mimicking the exact mechanism by which THC/cannabis artificially drives continuous appetite stimulation. Ultimately, quitting seed oils triggers genuine physical and psychological withdrawal because you are abruptly cutting off a steady supply chain to heavily desensitized neural receptors, forcing the brain into a temporary, uncomfortable neurochemical recalibration period that typically lasts about two weeks.
>>544752057palm oil is pretty terrible tho
>>544755182I still haven't decided if the covid thing was planned or just a monumental fuck up by all the foods we have in power at the UN etc. I don't think it was a practice run because everyone is wary for it now, it was their one chance
>>544755483environmental disaster at any rate
>>544751736>>Trans fats are probably bad.Transphobic, fatphobioc bigot!>>544752057Olive oil is middle of that list an no one complains about that being unhealthy. Southern Europe usually uses that while norther Europe uses the ones at the bottom of your list, and Southern Europe has longer lifespans.
>>544755334it's true oil+sugar+salt is like a drug, but between these:>tomato + sunflower oil + bread>tomato + olive oil + bread>tomato + tallow + breadi would guess tallow tastes best and sunflower tastes worse. so i don't think it's the seed oils.
>>544753778>their beef fat is closer to sneed oil because of the feed the cattle are exposed toyoure a bit tarded?
>>544752232Spain used to have the second highest life expectancy in the world 15 years ago or so now its about tenth. And the zoomers here are getting fatter.
>>544751894Canola is fine, it's just fearmongered because you import it for cheaper than domestic farmers can produce their own sees oils.That's where most of this psychotic food propaganda comes from, just agriculture projectionists trying to shill one product over another.I remember in the 90s when Americans were trying to scapegoat Maple Syrup as the cause of obesity.
>>544755782have to be, only the retards will survive
>>544755400it has to do with how our brain processes rewards for foods. in nature there are no food sources that are both high in sugars and high in fat, so our brain evolved two different reward pathways. when both are fired simultaneosuly (which can't happen in nature), you get a very abnormal, drug-like high. it's how fast food is engineered.
>>544755400>https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/1468-0009.70066Indicates ultra-processed foods are engineered industrial delivery systems designed to maximize dopamine spikes and bypass natural human satiety loops which is outlining the addictive nature of these types of foods. It’s not just that seed oils are addictive in of themselves which they seem to be, it’s that these ultra processed foods are engineered like cigarettes in the tobacco industry to be highly addictive. Bypass society and make people overeat. Like a permanent second stomach syndrome.
>>544752232Olive oil comes from the fruit not the seed.
>>544755483In the US it’s not easy to obtain unadulterated palm oil, coconut oil, or olive oil. Additionally they consider corn grass here.
>>544751027test
>>544755615The coordination outs how tightly controlled everything. I had a buddy in Greece tell me how it took them multiple decades to get DSL however they threw up 5G overnight during lockdowns. Now we know what they need increased wireless throughput with AI security monitoring control paradigm that are right around the corner. I don’t know maybe that’s all wrong I hope so.
>>544755692For all I know they’re ok them cold occasionally. Personally I order cold press single sourced olive oil directly from the EU. Most of the domestic oils here are adulterated. They’re not pure.
>>544756025>fed
>>544755883>in nature there are no food sources that are both high in sugars and high in fatyou dont think anyone ever had fruit with butter before? or honey and avocado? or milk and honey? lmfao this nigga
>>544751027>Industrial waste is safe and beneficial
>>544756291You literally just proved his point lmao.
>>544755883I suppose the confusion comes from seed oil in the US is synonymous with food engineering 85% of the products that have fat that are pre-created in supermarket including fresh baked goods or cafeteria style created buffets are loaded with seed oils, sugar, tablesalt(NaCl) and a host of other manufacturing additives and chemical flavoring emulsifier etc. It’s not real food. In order to quit seed oils you basically have to quit all premade foods, and literally cooking and design everything you consume from scratch. You have to understand that our parents were memory wiped over here in the US and very few of them cook from scratch so this was a very difficult change of lifestyle initially. It’s very easy and manageable at this point however I can see how people get trapped thinking convenience food is actually a “convenience”, and not biological colonialism used to harvest their wealth and kill them early in the retire retirement from preventable food based diseases.
>>544756456>you get a drug like high from eating sugar+fat because no ones ever eaten more than one food at a time before nowlol k, sure
>>544756291Honey is the exception and even though it’s found in nature it’s considered a processed food. Processed by insects, and therefore concentrated and can cause problems and humans if overly consumed. Deliver clears out the fructose and sucrose found in fruit because it’s so minimal compared to anything else found in nature. However when you start concentrating through processing that that’s where you get into trouble every time.
>>544756816>Deliver clears out the fructose and sucroseThe LIVER
>>544756107A bunch of people certainly taken advantage of the situation
>>544756964That's Mr Liver to you
>>544756291Those things don't exists in nature, they are human inventions that we came up with long after our brain chemistry evolved. Only milk from that list has both sugar and fat and it's extremely good food and animals produce it expressly for that purpose.
>>544756991Definitely. Who knows I’m a bit strung tight I suppose. Finding out about how toxic the food was. Finding out how toxic generic drug additives have become compared to brand drugs in the US. Finding out about how dangerous the freight trucking industry has become with untrained CDL drivers in the US. Figuring out the monetary policy secretly dictates societal movements like women’s rights, civil rights, gay rights and transgender rights in the US, sort of has me feeling testy and uneasy and untrusting. I guess I’m just being a big baby I suppose and I should take my loosh whips and reincarnation cycles like a man, kek.
>>544751027fat is bad for you in general, concentrated fat, oils, butters, are very bad.
>>544755932Apparently olive oil is bad for you (tm) all the same, according to this other anon >>544752057Obesity is obviously unhealthy in 99.9% of the cases. It's glut, it's an excess. But that's the thing, making blanket statements like eating 'x' food is bad and will kill you is for brainlets and food companies looking to bring down their competition.The same idiots going along popular trends like a leaf in the wind dismiss old wisdom that's been proven to work through generations.Follow your local traditional diet, don't stuff your face and keep an active lifestytle. It's that simple.
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>>544757153Maybe if you read the thread you would see that I didn’t say that at all. Apparently green yellow and red mean nothing to you. Are you colorblind?
>>544751027Shocking that a multi-billion dollar industry has the ability to spread propaganda on wikipedia. They also engage in active well-poisoning in the health influencer space.
>>544751027reminded me of this
>>544756531>You have to understand that our parents were memory wiped over here in the US and very few of them cook from scratchPicrel is what boomers call "cooking"
>>544757108There's always been megalomaniacs especially in a Jewish state such as USA. Now we just have the information to make it overwhelmingly obvious
>>544757212Yeah, well we mainly consume sunflower oil over here.Besides, according to your own graphic, olive oil goes from 3% (cold pressed extra virgin I'm guessing which is expensive as fuck and hence utilized the least) all the way to 27%, falling into the red bad evil section of seed oils.
>>544757576Hundred percent. I can’t even eat my relatives food because it destroys me. I’ve developed some type of autoimmune disease from immunizations throughout my life and all of the fake food triggers it horribly. Not the Covid vaccine of course. I had already learned enough at that point to not drink the Kool-Aid anymore. I’m a no shot type of guy now. Obviously I can’t control my parents as a baby when they were injecting me with immunizations filled with adjuvants that caused horrible autoimmune diseases and heavy metal poisoning. But we all make mistakes!
>>544751027Just another part of the Dittmannia, really.
>>544757617It’s not my image. The variability is likely the processing and style of oil. Again it’s how you eat food. That’s a big realization. You can’t heat these oils up and then constantly reheat them. You need to eat them cold on salads or heat them once and eat them only.
>>544751027>According to wikipedia, seed oils are actually good for you.wikipedia literally says circumcision improves your sexual sensation
>>544757718If I cheat and eat like a bag of chips I immediately get inflammation. I didn't know what inflammation was until I stopped eating boomerslop.Turns out I have been in a state of chronic inflammation my entire life.How many are also like this? I'd say most.
>>544757580I agree. Overwhelming evidence.>concerning psychopathy in corporate laddersIt drives me crazy when people say it is this way because it’s always been that way to naturally evolved when the reality is modern humans have been around in our current form for hundreds of thousands of years upwards of 300,000 years and written histories less than 3% of that so we have no precedent for how things organically evolved. That logic makes me sick to my stomach.
>>544757917Definitely most people living in the modern world where their parents didn’t cook everything from single source ingredients from scratch which is probably 95% or more, on a guess. The problem was when our parents were younger a lot of the prepackaged food wasn’t nearly as bad as it is today so they came to trust it as a standard which has horribly betrayed them and their children.
>>544757617What the fuck is that shit graphic? Everyone is into olive oil here. There is 3 times more olive oil than sunflower oil on the supermarket shelves. Bongland probably cooks more with sunflower oil than butter, though it depends on the dish.t.bong living here
>>544751027Sunflower is pretty but in another way butter would be bad for you too.
>>544758353It's been fifty-fifty sunflower/olive in this cunt for a while, Nigel.I guess now that more spaniards are falling below the poverty threshold it's skewing towards people using the cheaper alternative.
>>544757927In the past they weren't so uppidity about it because they got bonked in the head, and only non whites had women in power and even then they got the shit raped out of them all the time. Now they're in the most fragile ivory towers and don't know it
>>544758736I feel like ghee (clarified butter) is a better alternative than any type of industrialized seed oil. Ghee has a smoke point of 485°F (250°C) which is higher than sunflower oil. Perfect for frying. I make mayonnaise with it too.
>>544751027Canola is some Canadian propaganda to rename RAPE seed oil.
>>544758736They routinely dillute olive oil with sunflower or rapeseed here.
>>544758887I hope you make your own, it's extremely easy
>>544758795I think that human anatomy and the dynamics of reproduction child rearing family creation community creation generational support structures etc. is an amazing thing but unfortunately in modern society it’s been exploited into a living hell scape. Men and women are very different. Race is real. And a lot of the differences have value between men and women and even race. For example Australian aborigines (I know you’re from New Zealand) have unmatched terrain mapping capabilities where they can track in desert like environment environments or biomes with little or no features. This evolutionary aspect of these people would be great for asteroid pilots. Additionally there’s people that are from the Philippines that have mutated spleen and can hold their breath for shallow fish diving for over 20 minutes as a genetic mutation. That’s incredible. It’s OK to be different. I know this is an obvious truth but so many people today seem to forget reality.
>>544759065I’m getting there anon. I understand the process and I know it’s very easy however finding high-quality base products is a challenge here. Most of the gear I get is actually imported from Australia or New Zealand specifically. They import the butter and then they clarified here into butterfat.
>>544751027And according to tiktok animal fats are actually good for you.It's funny how retards have been convinced by bought liars that everything the animal ag industry says must automatically be true.Btw high amounts of concentrated fat are never healthy but some sources are still better than others. Animal fats are the worst, even if retarded individuals might have a problem with accepting that.
>>544759198>said the meme flagYou’re right however did humans exist eating primarily animal fats so long! It’s unbearable! Oh the tragedy!
>>544758887>gheeI was going to tell you it's too expensive and inaccessible for the average wagieYou usually find shit like that on the 'organic' shelves (overpriced hogwash) of the supermarketBut I see it's pretty easy to make at home. Might give it a try.
>>544758736I saw panchitos on the metro with big tubs of sunflower oil on the metro, Proper Spanish still seem to be into the real stuff. Though I do wonder about the tapas places that all seem to be run by chinos these days.
>>544759361It’s shelf stable too. Last forever. I cook omelettes with it. I butter toast with it. I fry with it. I use it for everything. Never felt better.
>Muh seed oils bro muh oil from seeds>It's oil>From seedsThe actual problem is that people's diets are now 90% seed, whether it be from oil or flour or corn or whatever. These people will go on and on about seed oils but then when it comes to the other parts of the seed it's OH HECKIN LOAD ME UP IM A GOOD CARBY BOY!
rverything in moderationbut 20% here 40% there 60% there you consuming it by the liter
>>544757163do you want to live a long life or die a horrible death?Avoid fat. I do. I'm really healthy for my age.
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>>544759642>Muh oilsDoesn't matter if your diet is already 90% seeds anyway, we are not birds.Meat and fruit are the only real foods.
>>544759573I think you’re misinformed. Dietary fat is an absolute biological necessity; it forms the physical architecture of every cell membrane and most of the human brain, while acting as the core driver for hormone production and nutrient absorption. For millions of years, ancestral human diets revolved around nutrient-dense animal fats, wild game, nuts, and seeds, meaning our physiology evolved to expect these stable, single-bonded whole fats as a primary source of clean energy. Prior to the industrial revolution, humans never consumed heavily processed, chemically extracted oils, making traditional fats the exact fuel source our species has thrived on since the dawn of time.>The 1980s low-fat craze was a political masterpiece and epidemiological manipulation, driven by Ancel Keys' cherry-picked data and industry-funded Harvard research that falsely demonized stable saturated fats to protect the sugar industry. This political mandate forced food manufacturers to strip out natural fats which are biologically essential for cell membranes, brain structure, hormone production, and vitamin absorption and replace them with an avalanche of refined sugars and high-fructose corn syrup to maintain palatability. By replacing clean, ancestral fats with a hyper-palatable, low-fat carbohydrate matrix, this corporate-sponsored shift effectively brainwashed the public while inadvertently triggering the modern epidemics of obesity, diabetes, and systemic inflammation.
>>544752816That's more variety...aka more healthier and a high test level
>>544759750>>544759973>truth police enter the threadYou got it bouis! Mount up sirs
>>544752564>>544752986Plant oils are toxic and that's why so many starving vegans die of heart attacks.Countless videos of vegans who consume 0 cholesterol in their diets dying of heart attacks, because plant oils are toxic.
>>544760144>checkedPreaching to the choirThe kettle is blackWhy don’t you read the thread
I’ve always been in these threads anons, as long as I’m still alive I always will. I’m just trying to help point out a few things I’ve learned. I’m sure lots of people know these things. It seems like lots of people don’t though. If you’re fat then you don’t know.
>>544751027>seed oils are actually good for youYes. In salads and such, 1-2 tablespoon every day, or at least every 2-3 days. This is especially true if you have constipation or 45+ y.o.
>>544753163>why they're obese and retarded.Because it makes people obese and retarded. The sneed oils will break down and bind to cannabinoid receptors giving the obese retards the munchies so they eat more and become more obese and retarded.
>>544751027Blatant misdirection. It's ok in raw form but heat from cooking converts them into inflammatory compounds.
>>544759067It's totally acceptable to be racist if it's explaining why another race is better than white people at something
>>544752232What’s interesting is: how you prepare and the order you eat food is important. So you could have a situation where certain seed oils are consumed in your country where you’re appropriately eating them on cold salads, not reheating or oxidizing them through cultural food behaviors which works out to be perfect. That’s not what we’re seeing in modern industrialized supply chains for fast food, restaurant and processed foods in the US and other parts of the western world that are modernized by an international corporations. We’re seeing inappropriate use leading to toxic outputs destroying people’s health wow in institutional authorities double speak the health benefits without specifying between the differences. It becomes semantic games with health and food supply chains.
According to "Wikipedia" (i.e. power users and faggot onionboy mods), everything lame and gay is good for you. Also, every single non-leftist stance on *any* topic is either a "myth" or "debunked".It parades itself as an impartial, non-partisan website by the way. There's zero effective difference between Wikipedia and RationalWiki nowadays except the volume of pages.
>>544760728If it’s not hateful and you’re not trying to kill people then call me racist for delineating or measuring race. I’m a realist not a fairytale believest, kek!
>>544751027Wikipedia is a disgusting cesspool of corpo lies and troon delusions.
>>544760859It's actually not that bad now as long as you don't say the word. People are pretty pragmatic, they know they're different they don't even want to be seen as white
>>544760458The main problem with obesity is the sugar. In Burgelands it being put into literally everything, and in large quantities. The second is all that fried shit that being cooked in the same batch of oil all day every day to save the cost and bring more profit to corporations. The third is the universal problem when people sit all day every day, be it the couch, a car, the office/gaming chair, or whatever else.
>>54476072840% of the Neanderthal genome lives collectively between Europeans and East and South Asians genomes and virtually 0% of that Neanderthal genome exists anywhere else (maybe small parts in north east Africa). Humans might be virtually identical from a genetic standpoint however the sequence of genes is the special sauce in race and no one wants to talk about that. Phenotypic differences aren’t simply shallow meaningless things. Race is a combination of different hybrid hominids. Pure homo sapiens are north east Africans. South Africa Africans have Homo habilis ghost lineage. It literally a jungle out there. But why is that bad to acknowledge race? >It’s bad for business, it’s bad for the global Ponzi, it’s bad for 21st-century immigration policy, it’s bad for culture mixing, it’s bad for the medical industry, it’s bad for current social politics, it’s banned for the entertainment industry, it goes on and on and on…
>>544761220>>544760970And honestly I could care less. I’m just someone who likes information and I like to call a duck a duck. I don’t like living behind elusive axioms, idioms and veiled truths to make a point lol
>>544761315>I couldn’t care lessDammit phone!
>>544752751I'm sorry guy but you're a retard when it comes to reasoning and wits.Nutrition doesn't work like this at all. Variety in foods usually means vastly different low calorie, high vitamin carbs you pick up as you forage. And that's just an ad hoc theory where the best evidence is the highly diverse gut biom of various tribesmen. This theory was trashed by carnivores showing you can have a diverse and healthy gut biom just through meat. And you'll never have such amazing bioms like those savage niggers anyway because our food is not varied at all, it doesn't matter how many wholefood markets you sample.Secondly, we're talking of additives and (micro-dosed) poisons. This is the true diversity today, especially in America. Third, the poverty of nutrients in goyslop. Will you really argue that five kinds of twinkies are healthier than just eating one brand?>>544752816correct
>>544753233what is a balanced diet?>standing on a ball while eating?>eating 33% carbs/protein/fat?>eating a bit of everything (aka the faggot diet)?>eating according to dietary nutritional requirements?it's a nonsensical word like "mediterranean diet".If you cannot define it, explain the theory and machanism stfu. You could as well say, eat the hebrew bible diet but that at least could be defined clearly and even offers a mechanism (albeit magical).
>>544751027The phytotoxins of seeds are able to damage your genes.
>>544751027>jewish sources say bad thing is good, actuallywow, riveting OP. did they decide if eggs are bad for you again?
>>544752232olive oil is not a seed oil
>>544755850open the wikipedia page for canola oil before you talk shit. you cant even eat wild canola because its fucking poison.when the poison is below 2% you can sell itit will literally kill you, i warned you
>>544751894>what do you sneed oil faggots think hunter gatherers ate? hmmmBut wasnt the average lifespan then like 40? They wouldnt live long enough to be affected by clogged arteries
>>544751348beef tallow can heal arteriesregards beef healer
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>>544763711this explains why Canadians act so aberrant. ever notice how every single canadapost on pol is hypersexual? theyre a nation of trannies, brought on by their sneed oil consumption
>>544758353The map is about consumption, not just what you cook with. Most bongs have butter on toast for breakfast every morning.
>>544763883Canola isn't what it's even called; it means Canada Light Oil. It is actually rapeseed oil.
>>544763555>checkedGurven, Michael, and Hillard Kaplan. “Longevity Among Hunter-Gatherers: A Cross-Cultural Examination.” Population and Development Review, vol. 33, no. 2, June 2007, pp. 321–365. Wiley Online Library, doi.org.>KYS
>>544764037Furthermore> Cro-Magnons were anatomically modern Homo sapiens whose robust stature and 15% larger brain volume (1,600 cc vs. 1,350 cc today) reflect prime evolutionary conditions rather than a separate species. Fueled by a nutrient-dense, big-game foraging diet, many Cro-Magnon males reached over 6 feet tall, drastically contrasting with 19th-century industrial Europeans whose growth was severely stunted by urban disease and malnutrition. Their larger brain mass scaled with their immense muscularity, but over the last 10,000 years, human brains contracted to save metabolic energy and adapt to communal, "self-domesticated" societal living.>KYS
>>544762189>>544762514>Will you really argue that five kinds of twinkies are healthier than just eating one brand?i thought we were talking about foodif you have any specific questions i can answer, you talk a lot but i don't see any valid criticism to what i said.>what is a balanced diet?a bit of everything, obviously. fish, meat, veggies, beans... but really almost anything fits my definition of balanced, it's really loose. as long as you eat different things every day of the week it should fit my definition of balanced.>eating the same sandwich every day like some autistic dutchmanNOT balanced>eating broccoli, rice and chicken every day with perfect macros>still NOT balanced>getting 80% of your calories from rice like a chinese peasantCAN be balanced, as long as you alternate between duck rice, veggie rice, egg rice, tomato beef rice, fish rice, pork rice and dog fried rice every day of the week.just eat many foods, it's not hard to understand.
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>>544752240very interesting and useful, anon
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>>544763555Yes, but largely because of the large amount of infant deaths skewing the average. If you made it to puberty you generally would have a long life.
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