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PICK

THE

FUCKING

PEAS

YOU

LAZY

FUCKS
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>>544752451
Mexicans interpret that as peeing in the fields
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>>544752451
How much is he paying?
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We wouldn't have this problem if unemployment was punishable by death.
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Gather your own pea, soilcuck.
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>>544752503
$3.40/hr
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>>544752503
about $3.50
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>>544752503
30 a month and found.
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There's a 0% chance he's offering a livable wage.

>oh you won't work in a field for 12 hours a day in 90 degree heat for 9 dollars an hour? Well then I guess we need immigrants huh, you fuckin racist
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1400 a week he said. He was hyping up that you get to live in a dorm with the other workers as part of the compensation
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>>544752451
Sucks to suck. Pass the sweet corn.
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>>544752517
I enjoyed that, thank you
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>>544752503
$10 per bushel. Without experience if you're in good shape and work 12 hours a day doing grueling seasonal labor in grueling heat you can probably make $700-$800/week. Not enough to pay for food or housing. Slaves had a better deal picking cotton.

Nobody showed up, he threw a temper tantrum said he'd rather let his peas rot in field than pay more.
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>>544752451
PAY

A

LIVING

WAGE

YOU

COMMIE

PIECE

OF

SHIT

and go back to plebbit, NIGGER FAGGOT KIKE
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>>544752451
kike trash masked as understanding the free market or people's work ethic, is tiresome
>why won't you just work for enough gruel to stay alive until the next work day you lazy white wagies?
Because burn your house down like an angry commie nigger and then we can all be poor and you can starve while we spitefully laugh, that's why go kys shekel grubber, I don't care about your problems either.
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>>544752855
>Nobody showed up, he threw a temper tantrum said he'd rather let his peas rot in field than pay more.

Maybe he should buy a pea viner and do the harvest himself.
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>>544752451
Make me. That's why he wanted spics to do it
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>>544752503
$1000 a week w housing
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>>544752451
why isn't pea picking automated?
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>>544752634
>Living at work
Hire homeless people. I'm not doing that shit
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>>544752634
0 chance $1400/week at $10/bushel. I picked peas on a farm as a kid in summer. A bushel weighs 15kg, you'd have to average 700 pounds of peas per day to make $1400. Not possible, like you'd have to take drugs and do 16 hour days 7/7 but still wont make it.

Bet the fag who owns the farm never did 4 hours.
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>>544752451
He should double the pay and fly me out their on his dime and I will be the best pea picker on the planet, he'd never have imagined that amount of peas could be picked in such a timely manner. C'mon pea nigger, hire me but pay me what I'm owed.
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>>544752451
Young white boys should be doing it to learn work ethic for later in life. That or prisoners. There is literally no need to import shitskins for this.
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>>544753200
Yeah thought so. They always advertise the maximum possible payout when the average is far lower.
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>>544752451
why isn't he picking the peas?
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Why doesnt he do it himself, if he has so good work morals?

Maybe because its a dead-end career?
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>>544753114
I'd do it for that
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>>544753164
That's how you get fent in your peas though.
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>>544753204
NOOOO, SHEKEL!
COIN!!!!
>points at mouth
AH AH AH
AH AH AH LAZY SLAVE YOU FEED COIN NOW! ALL! PICK MY PEAS!
GIVE ALL!!!!!
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>>544752451
How much is the job worth?

>less than thirty an hour

Won't beat selling pics of male anus then.
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>>544753133
I didn't read this post >>544753019 before I made mine. Apparently, pea picking can be largely automated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WLNtHNrdyc
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>>544753114
>housing
>a rickety old shack with an outside toilet and a shower covered in mold.
What a sweet gig.
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There is some truth about people not wanting to work but I work in a blue collar field that is much affected by it, still I find employees by simply paying well.

However I believe there should be no income tax till 100k or so.

> nooo but we cannot finance world war 3, trannies, boomers and illegal immigrants with so few monies
Then we have to learn living without all of these, shrug
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>>544752634
>come live in one of the 50 year old single wides that I dont maintain for a month. You'll have a great time!
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>>544753272
Cant he has to own and manage the farm.
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>>544753390
Then I will make what I'm owed by keeping a small amount of peas per bushel for myself, my own little pea-price.
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>>544753114
"with housing" like that offsets being paid worse than baristas lmao this retarded faggot deserves to go under, what a parasite
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>>544752451
Someone should make troll videos of 1865 southerner bitching about nobody picking his cotton for him
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hey corps
try this:
raise the pay!!

that part of free market seems missing!
lol

isnt there a pea bot yet?

oh its 50mil plus software updates of millions lol?

how about we MAKE more housing?
take money from banker lawyer academics and other wankers?
sket shoot jew?
sell orc inc mik wop and femnists?
import slave girls by 100million?
clean out west and russia lands?
use atomic power and forth computer?
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>>544752451
this is a pea harvester.
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>>544752634
>you get to live in a dorm
I've talked to the spics who did that field work about the conditions the farmers put them up in.
>delapitated, moldy, rotting trailers
>moldy, rotten, stained mattresses(if they even give you those)
>the property where the "dorms" are located has usually has no utilities
>they pick them up in a delapitated old van/bus that absolutely would never pass a DOT/MOT inspection if those useless cunts did their jobs properly
>the dorms have a bunch of dirtbags and criminals and such in them, if you bring anything in with you it'll be stolen by the time you leave, if the farmer doesn't steal your shit instead
>coin flip chance the farmer throws you under the bus to immigration and you don't even get paid
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>>544753504
I'M BEING ROBBED BY THE GOYIM OF MY MERCHANDIZE!
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>>544753451
He doesn't want too because the initial investment would make him have to live for a few years without the newest model year GMC pickup and no boat vacations to Lake Tahoe.
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>>544752451
Why would you use humans when machines can do it faster and cheaper?
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>>544752855
>800 a WEEK
>Not enough to pay for food or housing
what the FUCK do you retards spend all your money on?
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>>544753114
Not bad for a young snipper snapper working a month
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>>544752451
>poopjeets
http://www.google.com/search?q=toilet+witches+india
http://www.google.com/search?q=codex+pajeet
http://www.google.com/search?q=india+jamboy
http://www.amazon.in/s?k=cow+dung+cakes
http://www.google.com/search?q=india+poop+festival
http://www.google.com/search?q=india+cockroach+movement
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2Pi4-zWJTg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JDGGcY0wDU
http://patriots.win/p/1ATVaFitCU/india-seeking-to-host-2036-summe/c
http://patriots.win/p/1ATVaFic5L/india-and-oh-you-statistics-you-/c
GO BACK TO INDIA YOU STINKING PAJEETS
>GO BACK TO INDIA YOU STINKING PAJEETS
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>>544752855
Seems about right. They just replaced slavery with "jerbs" to pay slaves less. It is all a scam.
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>>544753164
most of the guys who are chronically homeless are that way because they can't keep up a work schedule in the first place because their shit's all fucked or they're sick of the rat race.

nevermind getting the tweaker ones to stop contaminating the food with their drugs, if you can even get them to stop doing drugs long enough to leave the dorm to do any work at all.
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>>544753626
A small pea to pay for the price of having goyim pick your peas, thank you for your attention on this matter! Signed, Adolf Pea Pickler
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>>544752451
how much is he paying?
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>unwilling to pay a living wage

Then do the work yourself?
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>>544752855
Where is this nigger at I'll borrow a pea viner and do it in a day so this retard realizes how fucking stupid he is not just investing 50k into one of these
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>>544753608
We do dats in Germany
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>>544752451
He can pick them himself, no ? If he can t, why doesn t he down scale and become a garden hobbyist and find a real job instead of larping as a business owner ? He clearly can t afford to employees, maybe he should fing associate and share the profit with them equally ? No ? Amazon warehouse is hiring, you should stop lying to himself and apply. I would rather have him go bankrupt and import mexican peas, than import mexican to pick up his peas to make him rich.
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>>544753114
boomer can't even survive on $1000/week plus housing. how is someone suppose to build a life with that?
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>>544753920
>share the profit with them equally
How dare you
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>>544752451
How much was he offering per hour?
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>>544752451
If all 109 people refuse to work for you, then you are probably the problem.
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>>544753894
but how would he buy a new F150 KING RAPTOR RANCH edition every other year to lord over his import neo-slaves in if he went and spent that money on equipment?
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Beaners will shit themselves if a gringo tries to do their retard work.
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>>544752855
>Nobody showed up, he threw a temper tantrum said he'd rather let his peas rot in field than pay more.
Why doesn't he does that bootstraps boomer shit and pick the peas himself?
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>>544752451
Pick your own peas, pea boy
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>>544752966
Ladder in panel 3 looking kinda sus
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>>544753608
Different peas, kuhbohne, machine can kinda work but the plant is destroyed in the process. If humans do it picking them is slower but plant can be picked all season instead of once.

This is work still best done by hand, much like grapes. But farmfags always insist on paying whatever they paid in 1997 and then bitch about how nobody wants to work.
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>>544754049
The retard is going to pay MORE in manual labor than he would just renting someone or paying a real big boy farmer to use his big boy toys. Manual harvesting on an industrial farm is retarded
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>>544752451
His fat pudgy jewish hands know how to grasp with thumb and forefinger. He's showing everyone right there.
Pick your own peas, kike. You might get a better idea how much to pay.
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>>544752451
this really made me laugh
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>>544753990
>build a life
Oy vey! Me paying you to work does not give you a right to a house! Therefore, I need to vote to import more slaves! Jose will work for nothing! I don't even have to pay him! He will get government funding to work for me! You're lazy and you don't have the same privileges as Jose!
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>>544754004
"Up to 1400 a week" its based on how much you pick. farmworkers ITT claim that means like you'll make half of that
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>>544752451
>wake up at 4am
>commute 3 hours to my fuckall farm
>work 10 hours for 10 bucks an hour, that's 3 dollarinos above minimum!
>go bankrupt
>get evicted
>body busted
>serves you right for not living 20 people in a tiny apartment like those mexicunts we loooove so much!
I ignore any kike farmer shitheads that can't identify the problem.
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>>544753480
based
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>>544754180
yeah but you're forgetting the part where he spends most of his day driving around the fields in his brand new air conditioned luxury pickup truck lording over his neo-slaves handpicking his fields for 16 hours a day
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>>544752855
So the equivalent of $40k a year for 12h/day backbreaking labour. No PTO, health insurance or pension.

Can't we just reinstate slavery? It would be more honest than whatever this is.
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>>544754262
>$10/hr
>farm labour
mate you'd be lucky to make a third of that.
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>>544752451
Sounds like a good gig for teenagers
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>>544752957
More like peas of shit haha
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>>544753733
Ffs, FOOD AND HOUSING! lol
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>>544754324
Slavery would cost him more money because then he'd have to house his slaves and feed them. And he can't do that because he wants to drive his Mercedes AMG SUV around pretending to be a kang for picking peas.
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>>544752503
Looks like it's time for him to raise his pay offerings or to invest in some kind of automated pea picker.
It's a real bummer that the system has gotten so hooked on cheap mexican labor that agriculture cannot run without it.
It's time to crack down on every farmer who pays spics to pick his crop. Because it's creating an artificially low cost for the end product that legitimate farmers cannot compete with.
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23 dollars an hour you got me
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>>544752503
2 shillings
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>>544752503
It's funny because it perfectly highlights the problem.

Monstanto and the equipment people like John Deer have cranked up expenses so much that they basically have to hire illegals or go bankrupt.
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>>544754141
Yeah but I'm fine with his plats getting destroyed. Maybe I'll even fuck his wife
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>>544753920
>maybe he should fing associate and share the profit with them equally ?
>Baguette’s camembert wine stonks are at an all time high! Lacoste most popular brand in the world!
Fuck you.You french giblets don’t know how to manage money is gonna make a pute out of ya.
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>>544754141
if this is the case, why don't we grow peas in vertical farms with rotating shelving that workers can pick in their own town and without having to move around? the plants would rotate around them.
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>>544753733
Do you have any family or dependents?
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>>544754324
>>544753758
It was actually a real "ah ha" moment when I realized earlier this year that we're all worse off than literal slaves. Granted, employers in the west can't physically beat you (apparently they still can do that in China though, RIP) but in the past slaves had to be housed, fed, clothed, and given medical treatment paid for by their owner. And if a slave died, the owner also handled the burial/cremation stuff. Heck, in a lot of places in the world, a slave could even be treated like a member of the household rather than disposable trash.
Today, you get worked like a slave but have to pay for your own upkeep.
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>>544754257
At $10 a bushel your pretty lucky you get a bushel every half an hour. So 16*10*5 $800 a week. That's busting your ass too
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>>544752451
I worked there before
If you want to be treated as inhumanly as possible work in fields
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>>544753680
>Why would you use humans when machines can do it faster and cheaper?
because the humans aren't actually expensive if the state pays for their welfare and you just pay them $4 an hour
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Farm labor is tough work, I did it when I was 19 and I lasted about 8 months before I gave up. This was like 2013 though so I was able to get a grocery store job pretty quick after and I realized the pay was similar but I was able to slack off and not constantly be busting my ass, and hours were way less too. These drooling retards didn't realize until it's too late but the only reasons spics do the job for as cheap as they do is because they're either illegal or they can't do much else. Americans can always work at a treats dispensary or end of life care bullshit. Farmers are going to get raped so hard in the coming years, agricorp is going to become even more massive.
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>>544754525
I d rather eat peas picked up by mexican imported from mexico. Slavery has been abolished. Find a real job.
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>>544753733
Bro, that would barely cover your rent, basic poor people food and transportation with a ten year old car to get to work. And that is ONLY if you live somewhere in flyover country, cities... just point and laugh at the homeless guy, cause your choice w that much is if you eat or do utterly anything else in a city.

US is a 3rd world shithole too, but you pay like you are living in dubai.
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>>544754283
True but modern farm equipment is air conditioned anyways. If he wasn't a retarded faggot he could just drive the viner himself and just listen to music. Hell pay one guy$ 50 an hour to drive the viner would still probably be cheaper after 2 years. The guy just wants to get off on having slaves
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>>544752855
Slavery was too expensive. They were a substantial investment after all, better to have replaceable "workers"
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>>544752855
>said he'd rather let his peas rot in field than pay more.
>My way or the highway
Peak boomer
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>>544754613
>bushel
What the fuck is a BUSHEL?! Can't you cunts just use normal units for once?
Look at the absolute state of this. Fuck sake america.
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>>544754598
>It was actually a real "ah ha" moment when I realized earlier this year that we're all worse off than literal slaves. Granted, employers in the west can't physically beat you (apparently they still can do that in China though, RIP) but in the past slaves had to be housed, fed, clothed, and given medical treatment paid for by their owner. And if a slave died, the owner also handled the burial/cremation stuff. Heck, in a lot of places in the world, a slave could even be treated like a member of the household rather than disposable trash.
It's the Jones plantation, ultimately. I slave away in Canada and can't afford my own house because the currency is worthless while wages flatlined for decades.

The debt on a house is 30-40 years of slavery to the banks, and you have to fork over your own upkeep on cars/food/etc while your employer pretends to pay you. You often have to live multiple people to a house via rent because the "investor" boomers and foreign criminals that were given printed free money eat up all the physical assets.
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>>544752451
Pay peanuts; get monkeys
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>>544752503
PICK

THE

PEAS
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>>544754598
Why own and maintain a slave when you can just rent one?
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>>544753615
I’ve worked on various U.S. and Canadian farms, in Canada the farmer says pitch your tent wherever and if you’re looking for a shower it’s the gardenhose. In the u.s. these fucking pickers have nice cabins and bath facilities, they make bank and live pretty good
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>>544754802
>Flag
We got it from you retard
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>>544754802
Bushel is an English measurement you tit, it's the better part of 900 years old.
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>>544755005
you are lying, the only thing canada grows are grains on a farm. All that is done with tractors not some illegal spic laborers. And some ranches. The fuck are you lying for.
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>>544754645
>Wagie costs $4 per hour
>Diesel over $6 per gallon
I think you may be right lol.
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>>544752451
>Zero takers
Means that the salary is too low.
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>>544754734
>modern farm equipment is air conditioned anyways
Can you not be an autist for two seconds? Said farmer is a materialist nigger who wants to lord over his mexican neo-slaves and impress fat beckys in town in his shit F150 King Raptor Ranch pickup truck. He could give two shits about modernizing his farm when he can pay mexicans who will nearly kill themselves for 2 bucks an hour. It's about conspicuous consumption and pretending he deserves all the land he inherited instead of all the other white people being beggars and dying of meth and fentanyl in trailer parks outside dead factory towns which said farmer's kike bosses sent out of the country.
Kill yourself.
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>ubi
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>>544754048
kek
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>>544755175
i think regular people have a hard time understanding that the wealthy care first and foremost about maintaining their position, and not society or civilization or whatever. if some new production method could lead to increases in production and a fall in their commodity price or control they have over people of lesser status, they will resist it.
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>>544752451
Who's fault is that?
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>>544752451
Farming and manual labour is a shitty job.
You need to travel (doesn't matter if he provides the transport or not it's still a waste of time). It's more tiring to work manual labour under the sun and all of that for average/less than average wage.
You can do just about any other job for the same amount of money or more and you'll probably travel less and it's very likely to be less boring and exhausting than such work.
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>>544752451
The nerve of these fucking serfs to refuse a summons of this landowner
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>>544754598
We are worse off than the best-treated slaves. But we are absolutely not worse off than the AVERAGE slave. NRX historical revisionists like to pretend that slavery followed praxeology to the letter. But that's utterly ridiculous.

Slaves could be beaten, tortured and raped with total impunity. A slave owner could take the financial hit and just kill or mutilate someone if he was in a bad mood.

Slave families could also be separated and sent to different timezones - with the certainty that they'd never see each other again. Threatening to take away someone's wife and kids was more motivating than the whip.
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>>544755175
Read the rest of my post retard. I said exactly that in the last line. He doesn't want economic options he wants slaves to Lord over
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>>544755331
And if the argument becomes "do this shitty job or we need 10 niggers to work on the field" then just forbid farming and import food from abroad because it's happening anyways.
If the price of maintaining farming industry is importing tons of poor immigrants then give it up.
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>Six days ago
This story is from the covid 19 days, this farmer guy couldn't find pickers for his peas because the government was handing out free money for people not to work.
He explicitly says it in his videos, this isn't about americans being lazy or NOBODY WANTS TO WORK, this was specifically a period of time where the government was handing out free money.

Here's his youtube channel
https://www.youtube.com/@PatrickShivers/videos
No recent videos about peas, this pea video is from when covid19 was going around. They're throwing around this 4 year old video and extrapolating it to modern US politics
.
Here's the pea video the OP is about
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBKzXGMcvSA
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>>544753733
can't even rent a studio apt in my county for less than 1300/month
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>>544755468
Unironcially irrelevant. The problem pure and simply is and was compensation
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>>544752490
How would you know Gurpatarp
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>>544755140
>retarded nigger has no idea
We grow a pretty large selection of crops
>https://thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/crops
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>>544755594
The problem in this case is that it's a video from 2022 that lefties are using to talk about modern issues, when in the past he actually DID have pickers, and he always had pickers actually until they handed out 600 dollars per week free + unemployment.
He actually did have pickers and it was no problem until the government started paying people to not work, and that's irrelevant now because he presumably either has enough workers or has a pea picking machine (he has made a video about his pea picker machine already)
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>>544752451
heh, shouldve automated farming before going crazy about automated inteligence or whatever.
Enjoy your mexicans
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It feels like we've spent the last 3 decades developing heat seeking drone weapon systems that can track you down and strike right up your asshole with milimeters of precision from continents away

and in the meantime we've managed to put a fucking GPS in a tractor.
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>>544755468
People would still work jobs even if the government was giving them free money. They won't work exploitative ones.
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>>544752451
>be farmer
>already have razor thin margins thanks to foreign imports and GMO seed scams
>need to rely on underpaid labor or your profits evaporate entirely
>this is the white man's fault
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>>544755331
The same people who would do field work can work for a landscaper instead making 20+ an hour, and most landscapers also work winters doing snow removal contracts.
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>>544754324
Plus it's seasonal so you're looking at 2 months of salary at most.
So if you bust your ass and make that $1400 max working 12 hour days during high Summer you're looking at a whopping $11,200 before taxes.
And it's not like you can stop paying rent at your normal place of living while you're on the farm so the "free" room and board is simply him not making you get a hotel while working, but let's add $400 for food so we're up to $11,600 and then you need to find different seasonal work because I'm pretty sure most other employers aren't going to let you take a 2 month sabbatical.
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>>544755301
Talking at them doesn't work any more than you can talk to a cancer cell to stop being a fucking cancer to the rest of us.

You eliminate them when they become selfish vermin who consider themselves something other than the rest of us. If you don't do it regularly, you end up with a massive war that eliminates most of the host population along with them.
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>>544755174
I've noticed that any time that free markets of muh capitalism doesn't automatically mean that some business owner, including farmfags, doesn't make maximum profit, all of a sudden it's not markets anymore. Suddenly we need radical subsidies or changes in regulation or tax policies or who counts as viable labor simply must be reformed.

>What do you mean a can of peas might cost 10% more? Oy vey invite in a billion brown people immediately, stop tariffing the foreign imported peas oy you're robbing me if I'm not maximum-rich and only merely well off while like 10x more people have wages above the poverty line.

Oh no, the managerial cucks might feel their social standing as better than the pesky peasants is at risk. Instead of them demanding more we need the field slaves to stay down in their dirt as shekelberg pats my office chimp head and calls me the goodest goy kek.

>>544755732
oh shit well guess he'll have to pay more than the welfarejew then or maybe he can starve kek. Anything, Any-thing but pay a higher average income for most people, of course. The one verboten idea that would be like Stalin raping babies or something.
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>>544752451
Holy SLAM
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Why work?

I can get you neetbux.
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>>544755369
no one is advocating for literal slavery but its outrageous that current conditions are even comparable
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>>544752503
Paying? Be thankful he is not whipping you (yet)
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>>544755902
>Pay more than the welfarejew
Uhhh anon I don't know if your memory is good enough to remember 4 years back but people during this time period (the video is 4 years old) were paid 600 dollars per week from the state, plus an additional 600 from unemployment, and many states also had little bonuses on top of this.
So there was no reason to work unless you made 1,200 per week, that was just the break-even point where you made 0 dollars instead of actively losing money when working.

This is one of those things where it's not MUH PAY MUH CAPITALISM, they were giving anyone on unemployment the equivalent of 62,000 dollars a year for free. Had nothing to do with welfare, the covid policy said 1,200 dollars a week.
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>>544754731
I live in Oklahoma which is about as flyover as it gets. I'm not even living in the capitol and the shittiest ghetto rent is almost 600 dollars. The next step up from the bottom is 950 and you're only separated from the shitholes by less than a mile.
I don't know how anyone working less than an office job is making it.
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>>544754894
Oh, or like, "why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free". That's probably what they think.
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>>544755468
>gubment gives me a check
>boomer offering job
>sweet 2 checks, mo money
>Boomer offers fraction of what the gibersment just poofed out of thin air.
>Travel
>Long hours
>Back-breaking labor
>No retirement plans, youll never retire
>No medical plans, dont get injured or your fired
>No raises, inflation kills your existing wage
Gee, wonder why no one wants to work anyomre even 4 years later.

>>544755536
>>544755826
If the farmer offered something even close to what the government just handed out for free, his peas would have been picked.
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>>544755369
Okay but I wasn't comparing us to shitskins living in shitskin countries. The people there are all possessed by demons as is evident by their treatment of each other.
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>>544755369
Work now can only ever achieve rented roof over head + food. So the difference with slavery is beatings. Serfs in medieval europe had days off and security of tenure, allowing them to pass the home and rights to farm the surrounding lands to their children. Id say wagies now are better off than slaves but significantly worse off than serfs in medieval europe.
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>>544752451
Offer me enough money then you cheap fuck.
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>>544756161
The government was offering 60k per year for doing nothing. At that amount of free money 99% of people would just stop working. That's more than double double what the average retirement plan gives.
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>>544752503
10 bucks a bushel with free housing on the farm. Seems like a great deal for hobo or something like that.
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>>544755369
>Slaves could be beaten, tortured and raped with total impunity.
Jews, niggers and spics do this all day every day. Jews are never punished for it, spics and niggers are given pretend punishments that pale compared to anyone who dares resist.

>A slave owner could take the financial hit and just kill or mutilate someone if he was in a bad mood.
Slave owners take out insurance on their slaves and make money when they die, and removing safety protections is basically the norm as any fine is wildly smaller than their cost savings and your death is of no importance.

>Slave families could also be separated and sent to different timezones - with the certainty that they'd never see each other again.
Death of the family has already happened. You do not live with or near your extended family, and now you don't even have the ability to start a family.

>Threatening to take away someone's wife and kids was more motivating than the whip.
Getting fired means you can go homeless almost immediately and few have the money to float more than a few months. You go homeless your kids can and will be taken from you, then sold to some jewish rap dungeon while you get sent to prison for the crime of living without renting from a jew.

Your argument sucks. Even rome had built in protections for slaves and they typically had no fucks given about slaves.

The reality is you are arguing that you are not a slave because you can quit one laftunda and move to another one. You still think you are a citizen or have any legal protections. The only protections you have are based on the amount of money you control, only jews and their pet subhumans have legal protections that are not 'bought' with cash. A slave can buy their way out of slavery, meaning even they got fucking paid over and above enough to do that. When are you going to afford to not be a slave here? Never, you cannotbe a non slave because only jews own anything. They want it, they take it.
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>>544755070
>>544755126
Yeah? Well WE moved the fuck on from that old shite.
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>>544756087
and nobody starved during that period either.
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>>544756087
yea and ironically it was like the first time since, fuck what, the 1970s o algo, where that real wages on average went up.

So whatever. As I said, shrug Atlas. Idgaf, the whole system can burn down from the coof far as I care.
Jew goddamned sons of bitches have legit seen real average wages fall in proportion for the past 70 fuckin' years.
That goes straight proportionally into profits or firm growth of those saving the costs on labor.
What you're saying isn't convincing me that niggers should pay out more, want to fork over welfare bux to lay on ass that doesn't mean much of shit to me anon. Pay until currency debt collapse and let it all burn down if they still won't stop being such endless Jews.
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>>544752451
>inherit business from parents
>want to live the high life
>best way to boost profits is to pay as little as possible
>hard to find people willing to do back breaking work for minimum wage
>exploit illegal immigrants
>make money hand over fist while sitting back and organizing people who cant find better jobs
>complain daily that turnover is bad and workers arent putting 110% for back breaking minimum wage job
>get told that if you payed more the turnover wouldnt b so bad and you would get better quality workers, nooo i cant do that i need muh 5 vacations a year and new boat!
i hate these people.
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>>544755140
They grow tobacco in Ontario and probably some other provinces as well. My dads originally from a tobacco farming town in Ontario.
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>>544756375
Yeah turns out some gay little peas being picked in a field or strawberries or whatever aren't actually important, they're luxury food products getting picked by hand, sold at high prices, and eaten for entertainment.
>>544756467
Yeah it was the first time I can remember where workers were actually treated as something other than disposable worker units. The places that didn't give raises ran skeleton crews the whole time, and they still don't have the same active hours they had before (staffing your store during midnight when you get like 2 customers the whole night)
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>>544754802
a bushel is about how much a grown man can comfortably carry in a big sack or a basket
pretty sensible unit for farm work
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>>544752451
there should be a machine that automatically harvests them, nobody has to pick peas, it’s 2026. If he wasn’t so slow and moronic, he could just go design a machine and probably become a millionaire and wouldn’t have to do anything. But he’s not, instead he’s crying over picking peas.
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>>544756505
They really are the worst. They are the true welfare queens, always asking for and receiving government assistance. They're also the ones keeping the illegals here by giving them work and lobbying the politicians to not deport them. True scum.
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>>544756677
There's already humanoid robots that can do it kinda. Needs more development though
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>>544756132
That or leasing a car, its more financially viable to just lease your slaves.

>>544756243
Why waste the time beating them when they are disposable and replaceable? No need to rape the women when most of them just get on their knees for a crumb of a promotion anyway.
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>>544755728
Canda grows about 60-70% of its food consumed depending on year, virtually all of it is meat, dairy, and grains. The rest is imported. Which is pretty much everything else. Sure, you could have some rando farms that grow other shit here and there but you niggers are not 'farmers' by any stretch. Your food export is milk. This is akin to arguing that a city has a vibrant food production system when the only thing grown are a few dozen gardens and three people with backyard chickens.

Are you niggers counting logging as farming?
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Farmers are the biggest welfare queens in the country next to soldiers, police, and your average ghetto section 8 dweller. Farmers receive infinite gub'mint subsidies and benefits to either pay mexicans to do everything for them or sit in a giant 800,000 dollar combine harvester and scratch their ass while a machine harvests infinity corn to turn into artificial sweeteners and animal feed.
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>>544756361
Hobos are hobos because they are mentally ill. You could offer the hobo 70k a year and he wouldn't work
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>>544752510
Do I get paid enough to afford food and shelter from the mandatory employment that you are proposing?
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>why cant I make 6 figures by doing menial zero skilled work?
Gee, I dunno.
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>>544756912
Doesn't change that this would be great for them if they could get there. I didn't say they'd do it.
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>>544756843
its anecdotal, but a lot of the peppers they sell here in my state are from canada, i assume grown in hot houses.
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>>544752451
I don't know how it's over here but over here farmers are the biggest slave drivers. They expect you to work 16 hours a day for a carton eggs and an oily handshake.
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>>544756367
And now London is Pakistan and your empire is collapsed
Never should have abandonded imperial
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>>544752451
Yeah we know moron.
We have a population of entitled cunts, and the parent place too much emphasis on the only child they have.
Thats the issue.

The ideal would be that we would have had 6-7 kids per family, some smart, some dumb. All working, some picking the peas, some working on construction, some in the parliament, with respect for every one. No work is shameful.

We needed more people. both intelligent and dumb. As nature deems.
The idea is you replicate yourself so much so, that you zerg this planet. You assign every offspring to what hes good at, the aim is to overtake the planet. ZERG THE OTHER RACES.


Some idiot told these drones that liberalism is good, and our fate is extinction now.
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>>544757130
Yeah fair enough
>>544756367
UK still uses bushels in agriculture retard. At least they did when I was talking with a farmer when I visited some friends during COVID maybe they since standardized it out since
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>>544754379
Zing, lol
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>>544752451
I live in California and there was a farmers job that started at 40 bucks an hour. You work from sunrise to sunset. It's back breaking brutal labor. But the illegals do it for a 6 month rotation in season. Any longer and it will fuck you up. But you make decent coin in that window, especially if you're illegal. It's just illegals in California would rather worth as a dish washer for 17 bucks an hour instead of doing this shit. Because you can be a dish washer for years. These jobs are back breaking and hard. So yes they typically pay well, but it's grueling work. That's why we had guest worker programs in the 1940s and 50s. It was even too hard for good ole boy Americans to keep up the pace.
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>>544752451
Pee farmer here. Nobody is willing to pick me pees.
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>>544756677
He actually covers this in the OP video but it's 4 years old and nobody watched it.
Peas don't ripen at the same time, or at least his didn't, they were being sold to a luxury pea market. The machines pick all the peas at once including the unripe ones, and also take off parts of the plant, so you end up having to sort out all the discard bits anyway and lose some money picking unripe peas.

Basically it's the same thing you run into with trying to automate raspberries or strawberries, the plant will push out more so you have to do multiple pickings, machines can't do that. (the machines also smash fruit, which isn't a problem for peas.)
He does have a pea picker btw, and actually he describes it in his "machine harvesting peas" video
>The peas are ready for 3 days
>The first day 1/2 the peas are immature and aren't worth anything
>The second day pretty much all the peas are mature
>The third day 1/2 the peas will be hard and dry from being too old
It's a sensitive crop and you basically have a one-day window if you're machine harvesting, whereas the pickers in the other days can sort out all the junk, so you just make more money if people pick by hand.
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>>544752451
There is machine for harvesting peas here
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>>544752451
Why ain't he picking them himself?
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>>544757454
that wage also is much more when you realize they take it back to mexico to live comfortably
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>>544755790
And charge you a subscription you can’t fix yourself. Jews gonna Jew.
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>>544757371
Am I entitled if I want what my grandparents had?
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>>544757567
Yep that's exactly what they do but at least we get food in return. I've seen open positions start at 40-50 an hour here in California. Nobody wants to break their backs, blood sweat and tears. Even Mexicans don't wanna do this shit. They go after central American ppl
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>>544754065
They won't shit themselves, they'll shit on the crops causing another ebola or e. coli outbreak.
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>>544757393
>UK still uses bushels in agriculture retard.
Only when trading with you idiots.
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Private land/farm ownership is part of the problem.
Small-scale, localized, SOCIALIZED production is the solution.
That farm and all farms should be harvested by members of the local community and they should be fed from it, with the excess traded to neighboring communities
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>>544753509
1000 a week isn't worse than baristas what the fuck you on about schizo
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500 guineas
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>>544752451
The video is a re-upload from 4 years and being used to blame Trump when Trump wasn't even president then
https://youtube.com/shorts/MkDgsnBynLI
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>>544752957
Define communism
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>>544757471
but the main issue for the rest of us is whether there will be enough peas for us to eat. are we producing enough peas for everyone to eat peas if they want to with machines?
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>>544752451
Ah yes... The pickers again. We have the same not only in Germany but EVERYWHERE. People build up farms and think "puuh yeah... Now.. Hm... Someone should pick xyz. Damn. It's not like in the movies". At the same times they vote for parties destroying their own business, lifestyle, model of living, local agriculture, and agriculture as a whole.
They even vote for parties who eventually make it non profitable to be a picker, if even a fucking gypsy on the streets earns more, asking for coins.

Nope, they destroyed it themselfes. Even traditional, many-generations farms voted for their own elimination. There's only a few honest left who fight the hardest - as we all know: against windmills.
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>>544752451
Braindead job paying 1000 a week with housing?
Would
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>>544758385
flag definitely checks out
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>>544757471
>so you just make more money if people pick by hand.
*If you pay fuck all
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>>544755369
A polish proverb is it not.
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>>544758042
This is correct but people are too brainwashed to see it.
The root of the issue is that nation states are simply too large and/or populous. We need a planet of city-states. Only on that scale and smaller can governmental systems function at peak efficiency and receive the appropriate engagement of the civilian population.
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>>544758323
Yes by far, fresh peas and especially the kind he grows are a luxury product. No real staple food is ever in danger from worker shortages. The peas you buy in a can are harvested by machines only because they're not luxury peas going to a fresh market.
>>544758560
No, this is the difference between hand-picked luxury products and something that comes from a combine.
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>>544757065
Haha, oh you.
Do you have any idea how much all this monitoring and enforcement of laws and regulation costs? Well it ain't cheap hiring all the government enforcers necessary to keep you working and regulated, i'll tell you that.
Anyway to answer your question, of course you'll be able to afford food and shelter, we just need to dial down your expectations on what counts as food and shelter.
India for example is a great model for ensuring everybody has food and shelter. They don't support over a billion with nothing! They do it with next to nothing :)
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>>544752451
Picking peas by hand is 3rd world status.
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>>544753608
Literally took all the jobs
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>>544752503
Democrats to the rescue

Minimum Wage & Wage Floors: California enforces a higher state minimum wage, and under Assembly Bill 2646, certain seasonal and H-2A agricultural workers have a specific wage floor set at $19.75 an hour.

Overtime: California requires agricultural employers to pay overtime (1.5x regular rate) after 8 hours a day or 40 hours a week, and double-time after 12 hours a day, regardless of employer size

Feds don't even require overtime.
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>>544752451
From what I can see that dude's hand is empty.
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>>544758042
>Bro work 40 hours then another weekend a month mandated by the state
Fuck that. That said... Co ops which is just socialized farming but opt in is the shit
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>>544759019
If you are only making more money with low wages that people are unwilling to work then yes the issue is wages
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>>544752451
>hire three Ukrainian whores to serve the food and do some "administrative" work.
>put out social media skits with them promoting the work
>6 000 000 Indians show up the next day to do work for free
there, I optimized it even more
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>>544752451
If you can run your farm without committing treason, you shouldn't have a fucking farm.
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>infinite GDP growth
>minimum wage workers are supposed to live like shit and toil for nothing because someone told themselves that their university degree is more important
>if you don’t work for nothing they’ll hire desperate shitskins that take pride in keeping wages low and corporate overlords happy

People that tell you to work hard and cut taxes for billionaires are sneaky, backstabbing egotists.
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>>544759611
>Unwilling to work
This was all filmed during the covid era 4 years ago when the government was handing out 1,200 a week to everyone for free. It had nothing to do with his wages, you just got 60k per year for doing nothing for free.
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>>544752451
Buy a pea harvester you cheap sack of shit. Imagine living in 2026 with flying cars on the horizon and you expect people to be slaves and bend over picking peas. When there is already a solution.
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>slams
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>>544760024

I thought the new gimmick in the USA is that farmers can't own these huge specialty machines, you have to RENT them at exorbitant rates.
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>>544752451
If he can't afford to offer enough money to persuade anyone to work for him, then he is a failed businessman and the Holy Market in Her infinite wisdom will cast him out.
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>>544760188
Only the giga huge top of the line ones from what a buddy of mine was explaining to me. Granted all of his shit is 20+ years old so he might have been exaggerating
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>>544760069

off topic footnote:
I am guessing his partner Teller is dying of brain cancer.
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>>544752503
oy cool it down with the antisemmitism
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get a machine to do it idiot, ain't no one got time for your stupid peas
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Quit making fun of him. He got what he voted for.
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>>544760259
All modern equipment is computerized as fuck and you can't replace shit if it breaks. And you can't even bribe your way to a solution.
>I need this fixed I will pay
>sorry you have to wait 2 weeks
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>>544752451
PAY

WORKERS

A

GOOD

WAGE

YOU

GREEDY

FUCKS
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>>544752451
No. These are literally the only jobs immigrants should be allowed to have. I envision a US that treats foreigners like Saudi Arabia does: foreigners do manual labor and have no rights or path to citizenship while all the good jobs go to citizens.
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https://youtu.be/ii5q32oNhU8?is=CR6rtlnB0x_fra-1
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>>544753416
30 a hour is the new 15 a hour
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544757117
544757371
544758385
544759468
These are ai generated responses right?
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>>544753114
that's a lie and you know that.

there's no field laborer jobs that would pay that much, especially for americans, when they can pay 800 a month to 3 migrant workers and get more done (because migrant workers can be treated lower than slaves, i know this from first hand testimony.)
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>>544752533
damn, that's lower than here, we have about 6$ per hour minimal wage in Poland; and that's netto, after tax
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>>544758042
Yeah, just line up for another Holomodor, no thanks Marxist.
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>>544752451
the pay? the conditions?
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>>544761281
>the pay?
Enough to entice any remaining illegal aliens in his immediate vicinity.

>the conditions?
You are responsible for food, water, shelter, transportation, and any medical costs.

Farmers are the biggest welfare queens after corporations.
Ever see a poor farmer in an old truck?
Me either.
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I eat peas everyday. What's wrong with you lazy retarded redditors!!!
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>>544761281
Both terrible. Want the job?
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>>544752451
Maybe pay more than 10 pesos or invest in machinery
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>>544759468
but the workers are illegal and under the table, businesses dont follow the current laws we have right now. The only thing that accomplishes is what we have currently, its too expensive to pay a citizen $20 an hour when some random immigrant will do it for 5 bucks.
Id say start charging and arresting the people hiring illegal immigrants but we all know thats not kosher.

>>544759962
>The government paid people more for nothing than this guy is willing to pay for labor
I understand where youre coming from but why dont these employers offer more than a disability check?
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>>544752451
How much per hour?
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>>544752855
>he threw a temper tantrum said he'd rather let his peas rot in field than pay more
Typical nigger
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>>544752451
Look at that schnoz. Good Lord.
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>>544752503
You should just be grateful for the experience. Lazy bum. How do you expect to build your CV?
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>>544752451
why can't this nigger pick his own peas?
why would you plant more crops than your family can pick?
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>>544760188
You can own them if you're rich as fuck, but most farmers are in debt past their eyeballs. They live in perpetual debt but they have assets(land) that they can borrow against, so they take out loans. Full size harvesters cost hundreds of thousands of dollars, but you absolutely need them to compete in most cases.
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>>544752506
>One guy pulling that on his own.

With Trump's fat ass you'd need at least five guys to overcome the initial inertia and a means of slowing the cart down when approaching corners and oncoming foot-traffic
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>>544752559
DAS
ROITE
TREE FITTY
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>>544752451
I recently got to 70% with the VA. I just need to make about $500 a month in some way and I think I can "retire". I'm done with this gay job market and I'm more than happy to get all my tax money back in food stamps.
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>>544762166
>Offer more than a disability check?
60k a year, or roughly twice what you'd get on social security, the government's retirement program. That's a huge amount of money for doing literally zero hours of work, no way to beat that.
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>>544752451
pick it!
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>>544752855
I'd do it but as a farmhand I also expect lodging and perhaps even meals. Not any meals with peas though unless they're in a stew or soup.
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>>544752503
Almost irrelevant. Seasonal work can't put a roof over your head the rest of the year and there's not enough of it all the time to maintain a minimal standard of living.

This is why farm labor has always been absolutely miserable, the kind of thing you enslaved people to do, and why people immediately fucked off to regular factory work once that became available in the 19th and 20th centuries.
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>>544752503
that question is antisemitic
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>>544752451
All businesses that pay slave labour and fight for migration need to be destroyed
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>>544762166
Actually Mexicans think it fucking blows to work for a farmoid. It's why they fuck off to construction ASAP.
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>>544752510
Do you think any central bank currently in existence would argue for 0% unemployment? And if what you're proposing is the truth. Why aren't you currently heralding a position at a central bank?
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>>544752634
1400 a week if actually possible to make and you're young. And you don't have to worry about making rent payments then that is actually not terrible to just go out do and save up.
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>>544752855
>Slaves had a better deal picking cotton.
Unironically true. Harvest season was only a few months.
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>>544752451
>round up anyone who criticised immigration
>force them to work at whatever wage results in an average profit for this farm
>state assigned chudette/troonified incel for good measure
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>>544754449
This.
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>>544758242
I'll go one step further to you. Explain the differences between capitalism, socialism, and communism.
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Why don't we just use prisoners for this? The 13th Amendment literally says prisoners are an exception to the abolishment of slavery.

>Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
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>>544754379
Carlos!!
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>>544758042
There is no local community, commie retard. Most farms are in the middle of fucking nowhere. You get a much more efficient and stable ag sector this way than you do with CHAZ-tier "farming" your kind shills for.
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>>544763028
>This is why farm labor has always been absolutely miserable, the kind of thing you enslaved people to do, and why people immediately fucked off to regular factory work once that became available in the 19th and 20th centuries.

I have family members who did this type of seasonal work just fine back in their youth and they all still ended up as home owners and live perfectly normal lives.
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>>544763365
ill take a shot:
>I own it
>"Everyone" owns it
>The state owns it
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>>544755175
>his shit F150 King Raptor Ranch pickup truck.
this anon got his ass kicked in front of everyone by a man who drives this
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>>544763437
We do in places like Angola State Penitentiary. It's not a panacea.
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>>544756367
Good thing America is here to preserve the English language since you British fucks keep butchering and mutilating it.
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>>544763437
>The 13th Amendment literally says prisoners are an exception to the abolishment of slavery.
Because JEWISH prison operators and JEWISH courts will enslave you to Walmart for $1/hr, because you smoke weed. Or they define leaning on your parked car with the keys in your pocket is "command and control" of the vehicle and thus drunk driving.

Prison operators and people who profited off prison slavery need a public hanging.
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>>544763523
He's truckmatized by bad carma.
ill see myself out.
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>>544763514
How does

>everyone owning it

Differ from

>the state owns it

You do know that communism is a stateless and moneyless society right anon?
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>>544756912
>You could give the hobo 70k points and he still wouldnt perform real tasks for the points
based hobo
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>>544763669
>You do know that communism is a stateless and moneyless society right anon?
Oh, do go on. How does that work?
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>>544763437
If you think prison slavery is justified then look at the Jewish circus that decides
>you said "nigger" so you are now guilty of murder for self defense
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>>544763720
It doesn't! I'm not the one claiming it does. I was asking for that specific anon, or in general other anons to chime in as you have to think about these things.
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>>544753608
This should have ended the thread. They rent these out by the day.
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>>544753212
being under paid for grueling physical labor is not a lesson in worth ethic retard
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>>544752451
hire jeets, jew!
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>>544763174
Low-ranking right wingers who don't exercise power and who never will, unironically believe that high-ranking right wingers who do exercise power think that unemployment is bad instead of being their go-to tool to discipline prices.
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>>544752451
lazy fucker should pick his own peas or invest in an harvester
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why can't he do it??
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>>544753212
work ethic is a scam. It has been for years. It doesn't get you raises or promotions. All it gets you is more work.
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>>544756361
>Seems like a great deal for hobo or something like that.
unless I can get my weed/ booze/ fent delivered to the farm then NO THANKS!
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>>544752451
there are machines for that,for at the least 50 years. not my problem he failed to invest in the future.
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>>544763860
At the end of the day. If you have full employment. Every single person in your economy working. Is no bueno.
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>>544757480
have you seen the diesel prices, retard? that CAT tracktor also runs on $30000/month subscription just to be able to start the engine
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>>544763788
sorry, thought you were one of them trying to "enlighten" me about magical space communism where there's no scarcity, laws, rules, states, or money. My b.
I have found that the worst enemy to communists and Marxists is giving them the microphone.
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>>544752451
subhumans like this failing and having to go back to selling cars is a good thing, fuck these retards that think you deserve free labor and endless praise just for being le based farmer.
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>>544752451
Eh, as long as he provides drinking water and toilets for free, and allows me to pitch a tent somewhere near the fields, I guess I would would take the job for a month or so as teenager.
Probably not more than once though.
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>>544763926
Mmm yes and no. Think about it through the lens of the tragedy of the commons. If every single person adopted your mindset. And that to maximize your own individual benefit were to effectively give as little possible but take the most as you can. Then nothing would ever get done.
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Peas are harvested by machine. Picking peas is not really how it is done in over 4 decades.
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>>544752451
guess he should start raising an animal that can eat them then he can sell the animal. why do rich fags always cry to poor fags when they are scared of becoming poor? poor people cant help you.
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>>544752503
Minimum wage at best, hard manual labor with no breaks, and no benefits. These farmers just want slave labor that' what they truly want.

>>544752634
>$1400 a week
Yeah I doubt that. That would be $35 an hour and I highly doubt he is paying that much. If it is true I guarantee you it is a lie just to keep people in and then gip then jip them on pay later.
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>>544754802
>REEEE WHY DO YOU USE NORMAL UNITS OF MEASURE THAT ARE PERFECTLY SUITED FOR THEIR INTENDED USE CASE THIS IS NOT REDDIT APPROVED!111
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>>544752451
why do these faggots always have negative canthal tilt and make that cocksucking smile?
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>>544754141
Peas have a shorter harvest time in US before they burn up in the sun. I believe there is a early summer harvest and a autumn harvest. They just plant twice, instead of fucking around.
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>>544752451
He can't pick his own peas?
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To pick fruit in Greece, Albanians now take 40-50 euros per day, without taxes, with coffee and food provided. Only the morning shift, about 6-until it gets too hot and they complain and leave, at 3ish at noon. They can also take another half shift in the afternoon after it gets cold again if they want more money.
By comparison, the post-tax minimum wage in Greece is 750 a month.
They're making bank
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>>544764104
Work ethic is for your benefit. You need to be taking initiative to collect the feathers that someone other than your current employer will value 20-50% more than your current boss.
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>>544754753
There was a wealthy Roman farmer who wrote a treatise on this actually. He paid freedmen to work in the worst fields, (scorching hot, freezing cold, swamps where you would catch an infection and die if malaria didn’t get you first) while his slaves worked in the better climates. Slaves have an up front cost and you have to get your money’s worth out of them. Plus you are responsible for a slave’s health and upkeep. Free workers get paid their due on an ongoing basis. If a free worker dies, gets injured, or gets sick you just find another poor soul to replace him.
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>>544764019
I do not hate communists/socialists because a lot of them really are just people who think that some other system will offer what is best for individuals. But the actual real ones do not care. These are economic principles capitalism/socialism at the very heart. The point of resource distribution. For the socialist they champion the workers owning the means of production. But what does this actually mean? It means the death of private ownership. The individual now no longer gets to own the things say they purchase. For the role of the distribution of resources falls onto the central planners. Under capitalism the individual gets to determine how in which resources are distributed. Suppliers react to the market on how people spend their dollars. Central planners do not operate on this idea and instead attempt to control all productive capacity to produce the things they think people NEED. They effectively remove the concept of want out of the equation.

Easy way to look at it is like, we all need to eat. We need calories, we need protein. Now we can get calories and protein say from beans. We can also get it from cattle. How does the socialist determine whether to choose either or, how does the capitalist?

Also for a secondary thought. Companies like LG have come out to say that even though you purchase one of their televisions, that they actually still own the glass. Where does this concept slot in to?
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>>544753200
Based pea picker runs the numbers
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>>544764438
Ya I agree. The whole thing is about making yourself attractive so that you have options. Also the world is better off when everyone tries to be more capable.

Also, having good work ethic in of its own effectively puts you into good positions of learning. Which then could lead you down more potential future avenues.
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Right, so this guy is paid ~ $.30/pound for sweet peas. (last I knew they were in the ballpark of $8.50/bushel,and a bushel is ~29 lbs)
A 15 Oz can of peas sells for ~$1.25.

Him thinking that importing cheaper labor will somehow solve the issue, is unadulterated bullshit.
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>>544753200
BelgianAnon nails it.
Shit stinks.
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>>544752451
food is too cheap. there are too many excess males. it will solve itself
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>>544764908
What is the current percentage of excess males. What is the optimal ratio.

You know our species has always had more men than women, right anon?
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>>544764536
>we can get calories and protein say from beans. We can also get it from cattle. How does the socialist determine whether to choose either or, how does the capitalist?
The capitalist chooses based on preference, cost, and available funds usually
The communist doesn't get to choose, you're not in the right industrial zone so you get Holodomor for dinner.
Me and the most diehard commie can sit together and bitch about all the problems of capitalism, it surely has flaws, but where we differ is that communism doesn't solve most and makes even more problems. Communism just blatantly ignores the concept of supply, demand, scarcity, and the fact the world just doesn't work the way you want all the time.
The only way I could see communism working is if we get Star Trek levels of matter manipulators where you probably only need like 1-2% of the population to keep them all running. At that point society will likely make some system (possibly a lottery to make it at least seem fair?) to choose who will be the slaves. I dont want this because you know people with funny last names will never be selected.

I have a genuine question for all communists:
>Have chair factory
>Machine broke, new part comes next month
>Cant make any more chairs until then
>There are 8 chairs in storage
>10 people need chairs
Who decides who gets a chair and who doesn't? and why?
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>>544765132
Why do you keep using the term communism.

What are the differences between communism and socialism?
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>>544765132
Everyone gets a 8/10th of a chair.
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>>544752451
I always wondered why places like Soviet Russia went around murdering their own farmers. Did the kulaks have this kind of attitude?
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>>544764163
I have a feeling it's "1400 a week in COMPENSATION"
"Dorms + Meals + Internet access = 1000 a week".
That leaves 400 for you, CONGRATS!"
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>>544752451
where the fuck are farmers advertising?
I am in rural KS and I dont see a single fucking help wanted sign or advertisement online.
where the fuck do I find a rancher hiring anywhere?
cause it aint on craigslist
or indeed
or zip recruiter
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>>544752533
Health insurance with vision and dental?
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>>544765432
Better question. What is a chair?
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>>544765495
Well because that is the central planners land now.
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>>544765842
My point is I wonder if all the farmers killed off my communism regimes were as insufferable as American boomers. I'm not justifying the communists by any means, but it would go a long way to explaining why the general populace didn't seem to be more upset the government was killing the producers of food.
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>>544765395
In a dictionary or in practice?
Dictionary? All communism is socialism but not all socialism is communism. Communism is a type of socialism, probably the most extreme end of it. In my experience people have been referring to socialism with a very wide net, unless youre referring to natsoc? But many of the "socialist" nowadays are just Stalin level communists with a mask and a thesaurus.
In practice? Currently they work in tandem, socialism is used to obfuscate the goals and pursuits of pure communism.
Current communist countries are China, North Korea, Cuba, and Vietnam still I think? What current country is socialist and what one is communist? Or was there a better example in history?
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>>544753200
1 bushel is 30lbs
$10 a bushel

$1400 a week is 140 bushels a week

140 bushels is 4200lbs

assuming weekends off/5 day week

that's 140/5 = 28 bushels a day
that's 4200/5 = 840 pounds a day
that's $1400/5 = $280 a day

assuming an 8 hour work day

that's 28/8 = 3.5 bushels an hour
that's 840/8 = 105 pounds an hour (1.75 pounds moved per minute averaged)
that's $280/8 = $35 an hour

assuming a 12 hour work day

that's 28/12 = 2.334 bushels an hour
that's 840/12 = 70 pounds an hour (1.167 pounds moved per minute averaged)
that's $280/12 = $23.34 an hour

The only thing I don't actually know how fast a single bushel can be harvested. Is 2+ bushels an hour even physically possible for one worker?
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>>544766319
Google: There are currently five communist states remaining: China (since 1949), Cuba (since 1959), Laos (since 1975), North Korea (since 1948), and Vietnam (unified in 1976).
fergot laos
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>>544752688

Yeah, we need to have a conversation about which foods are machine harvested. Sweet Corn in the Northern States can be done, because it grows tall enough for the special header on a combine.

Potatoes are mostly machines, too. Peanuts, various legumes, carrots.

As a general rule, European ag tech covers more delicate and semi-delicate produce such as cabbage. Most American cabbage is picked by hand, while European cabbage is machine assisted. The workers stand on their feet and inspect cabbage as it rolls up a conveyor belt which is part of the harvesting machine.

European Brussel Sprout harvesting machines also significantly reduce human labor.
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>>544758569
?
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>>544766319
Marxism is the umbrella term, anon.
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>>544766413
There are no "communist states" since communism is a stateless and moneyless society.
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>>544757901
>>544757454
Wait, geez, what is the work exactly?
If it's that bad I don't understand why they don't just schedule shorter shifts or offer some kind of relief like, idk, air-conditioned outposts where a body can rest and rehydrate.

I know this won't sound relevant or anywhere near the same but when I worked in a call center the work was awful because 100% of customer calls were livid and wanted to kill somebody, and all the employees were practically suicidal. But the days when I worked 4 hours instead of 8 I was peppy and optimistic and all my callers would notice and comment on it and seemed to chill out like my good mood was infectious, so the satisfaction feedback from them was way higher on average. It was eye-opening how just slave-driving a worker less yielded far better output and overall societal happiness.
I don't mind working a crappy job, I just don't want my entire day to be crappy.
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>>544752451
Why do these boomers feel entitled to work for nothing?
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>>544752451
He can jam those peas up his pee hole. Fucker wants slave labor.



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