>Zelensky says he'll accept deal with Russia where Ukraine keeps 75 per cent of landhttps://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/news/world/zelensky-says-hell-accept-deal-with-russia-where-ukraine-keeps-75-per-cent-of-land/video/15de9a486c5531980231d349c87f61ffIn 2022s Istanbul talks, Ukraine could have kept all territory it held before the SMO, with security guarantees from UN Security Council members and a larger army. Todays “75% of land” scenario reflects a worse battlefield position, meaning more territory ceded than in April 2022. The deal was reportedly "the best deal that could be reached" and would have prevented immense loss of life and destruction. Multiple accounts indicate the agreement was derailed not by a lack of good terms, but by Western pressure (particularly from the USrael and UK) which encouraged Ukraine to abandon the negotiations and continue fighting. In hindsight, the terms offered in 2022 are widely described as more favorable than those currently under discussion.Russia wont agree on this now tho, when it is winning the war. It wants far more than current frontlines. It will continue the SMO to completely destroy Ukraines economy, kill as many male hohols as possible and take everything up to Dnieper in result of the UkrArmy and/or Ukrainian state implosion xD
>>54478191675% of current land held?
>>544781976He meant freezing the frontline as it is now.
What's in Ukraine that Russians want so badly?
>>544781916Remember it was impossible to cede any land because there was no mechanism for that in the Ukrainian constitution? What happened to that excuse? Anyways, this was never about Russia seeking a bunch of impoverished land. If the funamental issues that led to the conflict aren't addressed, it doesn't matter if Russia takes 80% of Ukraine. Have the Russians been behaving as if swallowing up Ukraine as fast as possible was the goal? No? Because that's not their goal.
>>544782056>What's in Ukraine that Russians want so badly?Vital security buffer, 15 trillion dollar worth natural resources, fertile land, Black Sea ports. Many things.
>>544782172Could they not expand their agriculture and mining industries without starting a war?
>>544782056A friendly trade partner and military non-threat in their sphere of influence. An energy transit corridor. But it's more about what they don't want. They don't want a western puppet in their back yard. That's an economic, military, and intelligence threat. What they don't want is to occupy a hostile population and have to spend billions repairing war damage. They've only really started taking the gloves off with Ukraine since they started hitting oil facilities.
>>544782280The 2014 banderist coup funded by the West complicated situation. All of a sudden, the new regime identified Russia as an enemy.
Ctrl-C/VFunny thing is a bunch of Indian accounts and sketchy news sites crop up when you google "zelensky 25%". He never explicitly said 25%, and it's just the old news about freezing the front lines. Can't post Facebook links here (first one that comes up with the vid is Srijan Pal Singh Kalam, seriously), and too lazy to find other sources, so check yourself.
>>544781916>loseshttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xd-p4Kj5EC4&ra=m
>>544782319You're saying they couldn't? Why not?
>>544781916good morning aids pole, time to fill the catalog again with copypasted two more weeks shit? another 14 hour day?
>>544782172No ones producing land anymore.
>>544782056Banan
>>544782374Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy told "Fox & Friends" on Wednesday that he is open to freezing the front lines of the Ukraine-Russia war in an effort to bring the long-running conflict to an end.Zelenskyy made the remark after being asked by Brian Kilmeade if he would "accept a peace deal that freezes everything the way it is right now, where you still keep 75% or more of your country, regardless of how it started.""Yes, right now, we have to freeze," Zelenskyy responded. "And I think this is [a] real way to end this war. We call it ceasefire or ‘stop killing’ like President Trump called it."Freeze and stop. And, of course, this is the minimum of what we need from Russia today. Then, of course, we will go to [the] president and to Europeans, and we'll ask security guarantees," he continued.https://www.foxnews.com/world/ukraines-zelenskyy-open-freezing-front-lines-ceasefire-russiaRussia wont agree on this tho. First of all, Russians demand elections in Ukraine because they dont consider Zelensky legitimate. Then they could restart peace talks with new government.
>>544781916The UK prepares to start a war against Russia.
In 2022: we won't accept 80% deal TO THE LAST UKRAINIAN2026 and 1.5 million crippled men: we will accept the 75% deal :D
>>544781916ok pidor
>>544782468Zelensky is not legitimate. It doesn't matter what we consider. He just can't sign anything that would hold legal power, all papers signed by him would be less useful even than soft and comfy toilet paper. We need legal representatives, currently their parliament is legitimate.
>>544781916>It wants far more than current frontlines.This year Russias progress was next to none
>>544782056Nikocado Avocado family gene and send their offspring to spy on the USA
>>544781916>Gives 25% of the spoils to Russia like a cuckold. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAHAMILLIONS OF PIGGERS DIED FOR LOSING 25% OF LAND. AAAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>544782319>All of a sudden, the new regime identified Russia as an enemy.russia was running a puppet government in ukraine until 2014.its obviously a rational and correct move to consider that country an enemy then.whats your point?
>>544781916Russia doesn't want a ceasefire. You'll forget about it by next week, Prakesh.
>>544782775kek, this israeli can't stop calling everybody a jeet
>>544782738According to your logic, after defeating the current puppet government run by the West and usurping the power now, the West will be considered as enemy.
>>544781916Lol, delusionnal zigger thread. Keep posting your fake headlines every day.
OP is a jew and doesn't read his source
>>544781916WELL GOSH GOLLY GEE IT SEEMS THE BRAVE STRONK JEW PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE WAS JUST TRYING TO LOWER THE WHITE POPULATION AFTER ALL DAAAANG
>>544782546>the ukraine won because they kept their independence from the soviet union in the winter war!!!
>>544781916>Russia wont agree on this now tho, when it is winning the warGood I hope they don't so I get to see how they win the 90s all over again
Up to the dnipr river and we have a deal chudlenzky and poland wants its clay back
>>544782738just like USA is doing in South America, and if they fall out of line, their leaders get kidnapped alonf with their wifethe point is you either go along, or there will be consequences, and moralizing won't save you
Why does Russia have to lie so much? Nobody in Russia is threatened by NATO. They just won't be as rich without Ukraine as a vassal state. I would have supported them getting Ukraine as reparations for WW2 but they don't deserve it because they are evil satanists.
>>544782056oil and gasminerals, lots of diversity therefarmlandaccess to a warm port for russia via azov sea and black seatrade routestrafficking of peoplebiolabsyknow, just coldwar things that also have a convenience of making stuff disappearand now, real estate and loans that make the IMF et.al. cream their pantsALSO doenst help that biden the senator helped disarm ukraines nuclear capacity; i.e. smuggled warheads out to pakistan, israel, chyna etc.
>>544784541>why would russia be threatened by NATO, who has been firing missiles, drones and literal invasions into Russia over the last 4 yearshow fucking dumb are you. they literally have an HQ in germany where they planned and commanded the kursk invasion. ukraine buys their weapons through NATO programs directly. NATO generals orchestrated the (failed) crimea offensive. you even had retired general patreous (that iraq war dickhead) gloating about how they wargamed it (kek - given how hard it failed). not to mention constant NATO surveillance scouting russian targets to bomb in crimea and feeding the targeting data directly to ukraine. yea no threat at all dumb ass. did i mention they are literally boarding and stealing russian merchant ships?
>>544785618oh stop trying to feed the fat mexican some facts, he is too stupid to know his ass from a hole in the ground
>>544782056>What's in Ukraine that Russians want so badly?russian territory
>>544781916Smart. A true leader always puts their people before their pride. He and his people can negotiate without suffering. People can protest the land stolen and relations can begin to mend
>>544782172>Many things.What good would those things do if ziggers are incompetent by design and can not properly use them.
>>544782002The frontline in its current state is about 20~21% depending if it is a pro-ukrainian or pro-Russian mapper (the biggest difference being North of Kharkov, between Volvchansk and Kupyansk where Russia has made massive gains but ukrainians are refusing acknowledge because that would make their Lyman gains negligible)So I assume Zelensky’s is willing to give up the entirety of Donbas and Crimea and maybe get back the lands/bufferzones on other oblasts which aren’t part of the SMO objectives, such as Dnipropetrovsk, Sumy and Kharkov. That would be roughly 25%.Ultimately it boils down to whether he can milk the results for more money or not.
>>544782056nothing its just jews murdering slavs from both countries so they can create new khazaria
