BMW LAUNCHED HYDROGEN FUEL CELL CAR WITH NEW COMPACT STORAGE SYSTEM. https://youtu.be/V7LCJ-jITgkShort the oil stocks faggots.
>>544800337Just shorted I hope you're right
I miss the e46 body style
>>544800399>shortedAre we talking about the same thing?
Looks cool af.
>One fender bender caused by a hispanic>That'll be $67,000 please
>>544800337is the mossad pager software free or do they charge extra?
>>544800626>One fender bender caused by a hispanicHydrogen is stored below seating btw. It's compact.
>>544800399shorted bmw for insisting on over expensive unpractical technology also a good time to short oil, unless the stupid orange man launches an attack tomorrow
>>544800337Sharting as we speak
>>544800705In general oil stocks are just stupid. Unless you have a edge over insider tips.>>544800750Can I see it?
Told you
Is there a map of Hydrogen pump/charge station/storage coverage in EU/NA?
>>544800337Hydrogen is a complete meme. It has all kinds of storage problems that batteries don't. The supposed advantage is that you can fill up quickly. You can already fill up quickly with a gasoline car. So really hydrogen is for the niche group of people who need to regularly travel more than ~300 miles and need zero emissions.
Pennystock gamble https://www.h-power.co.uk/investors/share-price-and-tools/
>>544800670Hell of a place for a bomb
>>544801216Hydrogen doesn't blow up. The oxygen concentration is too low in ambient air for it to happen. It's safer than a battery electric car.
>>544801149There are new diesel engines coming out that combine with hydrogen that burn off the waste and make it cleaner.
>>544801149Petrol and Diesel are hydrogen. It just has carbon bonded to it to be stable. Every combustion engine is hydrogen.
>>544801216>Yeah and gas is completely uncombustableKys. Seriously
>>544800337What are the advantages over the LPG or CNG powered car?Most of the hydrogen is made out of natural gas.
>>544802177>Most of the hydrogen is made out of natural gasLocalised green hydrogen production is necessary.
>>544802166Gas/diesel is far safer.
>>544800337Honda did it 10-15 years ago?Stop spamming it. Aut/o/ is that way ->
>>544802265Petroleum is more dangerous than EV.
>>544802275this is political because the orange golem is trying to make oil so expensive that we have to switch to alternative fuel options
>>544802337Not really but believe what you want memeflag.
>>544802405You can shoot at a hydrogen tank with a 223 and nothing happens. Not the case with Gasoline.
>>544800626I bet the crash videos will be popular. Probably only take a few explosions before people in traffic start to give you tons of space if you drive one.
>>544800337>>544801149These cars aren’t really expected to generate any revenue. They’re nothing but a subsidy grab by BMW (the government funded that project with 273 million euros in order to make sure Germany is „technology leader“ (JFL @ that bc idk how Germany is supposed to compete with China speed) in fuel cells. Doesn’t matter if the cars are returning any profits because the fuel cells tech will be available for other use cases as well.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Rfx7ksQGAQ [Embed]
>>544800337Hydrogen is going to save ICE and proper motor racing.
>>544802602China doesn't have subsidies and they're all in on hydrogen cars. Hyundai does it too. China actually have government programs for hydrogen cars.
>>544800337Until the first deliberate tampered hydrogen cell is used for an allah akbar in the market on Christmas
>>544802792My comment was about the delusional meme of Germany being able to be technology leader anywhere because of our slow working culture
>>544802792>Doesn't subsidies >Has government programs What
>>544800337>2026>Hydrogen>While simultaneously crying that Chinese EV's took over the market.There is no saving the German autofail industry.
>>544800337>The first road vehicle powered by a hydrogen fuel cell was the Chevrolet Electrovan, introduced by General Motors in 1966.
>>544803030hydrogen has one of the highest energy densities, your shitty chink EVs will always run out of steam around 150km ON A BRAND NEW BATTERYin comparison with hydrogen you can probably reach 1000km on a full tank, i made these numbers up, but it is in that range.
>>544802941>My comment was about the delusional meme of Germany being able to be technology leader anywhere because of our slow working cultureWhy not move on to other industries? Why being stuck on cars? Just let Tesla and BYD take over with tariffs and invite better CEOs to invest in Munich.
>>544800670>Hydrogen is stored below seating btw. It's compact.The Toyota Mirai has a massive hydrogen tank running along the center line.Making it a 4 seater instead of 5 seater.It also has a tank under the rear seats (fine) and a 3rd one in the trunk greatly reducing trunk space.Hydrogen is not compact at all.EV batteries also use a fairly big volume but they are usually tucked under the floor instead of taking up valuable cabin and trunk space.
>>544803439>MiraiLol. That's toy dude.
>>544803226Whatever you want to tell yourself.Fact is nobody will be buying German cars, they are 30 year behind in technology.
>>544800337Woman in a suit always looks uncanny. Like a clown.
>>544803539Yes it's ridiculous. Women should be all naked without showering and on their knees begging for cock. German DEI has gone insane.
>>544800670it has electrolytes?
>>544801149>It has all kinds of storage problemsthey have been solved for ages, the chemical industry uses hydrogen gas every single day through, you guessed it, storage tanks and pipes>that batteries don'tbatteries have their own separate set of problems>You can already fill up quickly with a gasoline car.the point is that it isn't using gasoline>So really hydrogen is for the niche group of people who need to regularly travel more than ~300 miles and need zero emissions.except hydrogen is produced by steam reforming of hydrocarbons, or in layman's terms: they use fossil fuels to make energy to use fossil fuels to chemically alter them to produce CO2 and hydrogen gas, which is then greenwashed and used for niche usersgod i wish i was joking with that last bit
>>544803840>they use fossil fuels to make energy to use fossil fuels to chemically alter them to produce CO2 and hydrogen gas, which is then greenwashed and used for niche usersgod i wish i was joking with that last bitWe might see green hydrogen taking off because of Iran war.
>>544800337Will not work. Creating hydrogen uses more energy than is produced.
>>544800337>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO>EVERYTHING BUT THE PLEB BEING ABLE TO CHARGE(FUEL) THEIR CAR AT HOME!!!!!>OY GEVALT
>>544803840>GRÜNER>WASSERSTOFF>(aus Chile)>(mit dem Schiff herbeigeholt)
>>544800337>>544800411(that's an e36, I know, but still...)
>>544803919yeah, as it turns out, dependence is really bad. dependence on desert monkeys is twice as bad.however, hydrogen is still produced in the way i described, with fossil fuels. it's cheap enough that way, electrolysis also requires electricity again which comes from fossil fuels so it's retarded unless you have complete independence from fossil fuels like renewables, wind, water, solar, nuclear, possibly fusion and in obscene amounts. like comically obscene amounts of energy is required for this. and even then, oil is absolutely required because it's a valuable resource for the petrochemical industry no different than chopping lumber or mining stones
>>544803439What can you do with these hydrogen cartridges
>>544803945>>544804194Electrolysis is shit too. We need other ways to make hydrogen. Like concentrating sunlight or something like that.
>>544804277you can get a large black man to insert them into your minifridge from which he will grab something to drink after he inserts his bibisi into your gookwife's slit.
>>544800337Where are you going to refuel it?Also isn't the process to obtain hydrogen very contaminant?
>>544803945Something like 80-90% of the energy is lost from hydrogen generation to use in the cell. Compare that to gasoline production in which only one third of the energy is lost.
>>544804277>Invent shit>Put a nigger into the demo videoAre these companies aready jew owned also in Japan?
>>544804277Nothing you can't do much cheaper and compacter with a battery.
>>544800337I hate the look of modern BMW, they went backwards in aesthetics. Better go buy a mid 2000s-2010s BMW in good shape before they are all gone, all the new models look like dogshit.
>>544804194When your country traded nuclear for coal and these stupid pipe dream projects I stopped believing germany has the superior engineering in the world. You could not possibly get me to believe in any of your "projects" are superior German engineering, because even if it were true what you applied it to is retarded shit.
>>544804600That's by electrolysis. There's other ways to make hydrogen that's being explored.
>>544801149Oh I know, but I still think it's really neat
>>544804194>it's cheap enough that wayIt's not though.Hydrogen is more expensive per km than gasoline and diesel.And the cars cost more than battery EV's with similar range, which recover much of their high purchase price via lower energy and maintenance costs.
>>544804855About half that is lost in the car converting hydrogen into electricity to charge the battery that powers the motors.No matter the source of the hydrogen you'll always have those losses.
Hydrogen internal combustion is better than fuel cells. Both have a fuel storage and transport problem though. Being the smallest molecule, hydrogen loves to leak through the tiniest gaps.
>>544804975>Hydrogen is more expensive per km than gasoline and diesel.what i meant was using fossil fuels to make hydrogren is a cheap enough version to produce hydrogen.nevermind gasoline, which is the best fuel we can wish for. what it shouldn't be used for is electricity, or all fossil fuels for that matter.here's some fun fact: of all CO2 emissions, traffic is just about 20%. and of that 20% only another 20% is every day people driving in their cars, the 80% is trucks, airplanes, boats and what have you. but noo, the car driver has to save the climate and pay extra for transportation. 1/5th of 1/5th of all emissions.and even so, if you magically make every car electric or hydrogen or whatever. you STILL need oil for the petrochemical industry to make all the shit you touch and use thousands of times every single day
>>544800597Made for climate conscious assholes around the world.
>>544804738the traitor who sold Germany to be slaves of the fossil fuel cartel is now sitting in moscow sucking on a big pipeline. but that's just a cohencidence, he's just a good businessman and this had nothing do to with his government
>>544805309This. People whine about burning fossil fuels but our entire civilization is dependant on oil products, not just car fuel.
>>544801149Check out the JCB drop-in replacement. They mostly make 4 cyl diesel engines for heavy equipment. Definitely a different use case from "travelling 300+ miles", but also a situation where "replace w/ giant fucking battery" doesn't make sense.>>544801700I suspect you know what I'm talking about, since JCB is a British company.
>>544800337fucking horrible over sized piece of ugly modern shit
>>544800957Sh..shut up
>>544805399>Made for climate conscious assholes around the world.it's poluting the planet more than EVs.you drive less for same spent energy. thus you waste more energy for same miles. thus you obligatory ruin the climate more than EVs, there's no way around it.also reminder hydrogen is big oil product.
>>544805400>the traitor who sold Germany to be slaves of the fossil fuel cartel is now sitting in moscow sucking on a big pipeline. but that's just a cohencidence, he's just a good businessman and this had nothing do to with his governmentwhat alternative to fossils?
>>544805894Nuclear obv
>>544800337>short the oil stockswant to know how hydrogen fuel is made?
>>544805975>>544805876>also reminder hydrogen is big oil product.
>>544805052The fuel cells efficiency starts at 70 percent. That's not half?
>>544805934nuclear is bad
>>544800337Where can I find a hydrogen station to fill the tank?
>>544806494>German energy policy in three words Prove it
>>544806482it's not only that efficiency, it's also the carnot cycle, transforming hydrogen to motion.then there is also the whole infrastructure cost. you pay for that as well. you pay for all the delivery trucks, people employed to drive the trucks, to fill them, you pay for the cost of the hydrogen pumps, for building the whole tanks and hydrogen station where you fill it up. you pay for all the people employed there. you pay for it all, hydrogen plants, all the construction materials to build them, all the people employed to build them. you pay for the gas those people use in their cars, to go build them, you pay for all that machinery to make the hydrogen, you pay everything, ALL of it, in the price per gallon of hydrogen. don't think you won't, you most certainly will, because there's no way around it.even if they subsidize it so they get the market, you will still end up paying for all of that.why would you want that? ask yourself, why would you want to pay for all of that? what could possibly be reason for you to go like>huh, I kinda feel like I want to pay A LOT for mileage, for no particular reason. sounds good to pay more. I feel like just wasting money on this
BOTH EVs and hydrogen produce more emissions than just burning gas unless you use non fossil fuels as the input energy to fuel them. Nuclear is the only real solution though it could be supported with solar, hydro and geothermal.
>>544800337Do we have any webms of them exploding yet?
>>544806893you still have a choice to use clean energy to power your EV. you can install panels on your house and never pay for transport energy again. you have that choice. but you don't with hydrogen, or gas.
>>544800337CONTEMPLATE ON IMPACT IMPLOSIVE/EXPELLANT TECHNOLOGIES FOR GASEOUS COMPACT VEHICLES
>>544800337>hydrogengay, make it a hydrolysis fuel cell that splits the H2 from the O of standard water as fuel, and maybe i'll care>>544800399>The cost of liquid hydrogen is typically around $2.7 to $3.2 per kilogram, which translates to approximately $10.2 to $12.1 per liter, since one kilogram of liquid hydrogen is roughly equivalent to 1.1 litersfpbp
>>544803309>slow evolution speed>move on to other industry Can you read? You cannot lead anywhere whilst being slow
>>544807048You could choose to split water then process the Brown's gas if you really wanted with H2. A little more involved though.
>>544804382>desperately trying to project his cuck fetish onto othersYou need Allah‘s guidance
>>544800337I love the optimism, but aside from speculative fluctuations this just means buying oil becomes yet wiser.
>>544800337Why did German cars suddenly become hideous? I think it was around 2020 when every new model started looking like pure aggressive slop
>>544807232what we want is irrelevant. these corporations are literal behemots with world's fortune in their accounts. they have literal private armies, like real armies, with tanks and shit, that they destabilize foreign third world shitholes to get their gas and shit. they have money to push propaganda on all channels. what we want is irrelevant really. they'll finesse CEOs of car companies and media platforms to push their shit.
>>544804690They all look like AI chad-ified versions of BMWs because BMW is actively positioning to export to the chink upper classes. Chinks aren't known for taste or aesthetics, so what they want is big brutalistic plastic frontage to terrorise the scooter riders with
>>544800337>HYDROGEN FUEL CELL>NEW COMPACT STORAGE SYSTEM.Coolio, i can't wait to see this pop off.
>>544807502Except chinks are ditching German cars en Masse bc 1. germoid carmakers are culturally incapable of building „smartphones on wheels“ and 2. germoids only have a good reputation for ICE vehicles (which China is ditching rn)
it's a car that runs on water, man
>>544807114Germany sucks making cars faggot. Do you get it now?
>>544800337>Short the oil stocks faggots.lolololololololololol no.
>>544807587if it has a hydrogen fuel cell it means it's not combustion, it's an EV with a hydrogen tank + cell on top. it literally has an EV battery lmao.they hijacked an EV and added the hydrogen tank + cell on top. like "here now you can't drive your EV without paying us for special fuel" system in your EV lol. imagine the audacity lmao
>>544807502I am aware, BMW will be shooting themselves in the foot, westerners generally don't like the look and chinks will start buying their own brands as they continue to improve. It's sad, all these legacy western companies are being ran into the ground.
>>544807502cars all having to look aggressive and imposing instead of cute proves we live in the worst timeline
>>544807666>germany working culture sucks and stands in the way of producing anything goodFtfy
>>544807652The majority of cars sold in China are still ICE, and the top selling car in the UK is now the Jaecoo 7 with an ICE engine. The problem is over the last 10 years German manufacturers threw their own reputations down the gutter with garbage on all fronts, engines, software the lot.
>>544807753That is a very cute car, miss my 90s volvo now
>>544807845>majority of chink car sales are ICE
WOWWE ARE GOING TOMARS
>>544807998>off by one You first
>>544805400>fossil fuel cartel Is it really their fault more than 90% of the shit you have and use depends on it? Is it really their fault that not even your advance technology can find a better way to boil water?
>>544800337>Hydrogen Scam. EROI actually puts it on par with petrol. Here's how. >Take natural gas out of the ground. >Steam it with water and more natural gas until hydrogen is separated. This releases a fuck ton of methane by the way. >Now you have to compress it to fuck huge pressure >While cooling it to fuck nothing This takes immense energy expenditure. >Now you have to transport it in the same massive ships, that can't carry enough of it at once to be economically competitive with LNG>Then you have to transport it with specialist trucks - same problem. >Then you have to store it in special tanks and you HAVE to sell it sooner than later due to leakage. More energy lost. By the time it powers your car, it's actually WORSE than petrol in terms of the energy the initial natural gas held against the energy that finally drives your car. You could literally just compress the natural gas into LNG and use that instead, with zero methane emissions, negligible carbon dioxide emissions and far, far better EROI. TLDR; FUCK HYDROGEN.
>>544804631yesjew -> korea -> japan
we're nowhere near to having sustainable energy on a scale that can mass produce green hydrogen btw
>>544804631You sure they didn’t record the video in America? Most jap companies pitch their shit over there per usual
>>544808985We could if we went full nuclear.
>>544808599Look up green hydrogen
>>544800337too much talkingwe don't have hydrogen infrastructure. none of this matters
>>544808985>green hydrogen
>>544800644that guy needs to be killed
>>544809153Electrolysis efficiency is still low. The whole process would be lucky to get 35 percent in round trip. We need alternative ways to make hydrogen. There's even ways you could extract hydrogen from just sunlight and there's Thermolysis.
>>544803840You can't expect some woman or grandma to handle the fueling mechanism. The convenience of just holding the nozzle and pouring the room temperature liquid into the tank is just too good to swap for hydrogen fueling mechanisms with way too many moving parts to prevent accidents. A great technology for jobs with real men, but not suitable for the general public.
>>544800597>>544800337and where are you supposed to refuel ? there are barely any hydrogen refuelling spots and you cannot do it at home either like a ev wall thing
>>544810356Hopefully inbuilt electrolysis inside car.
>>544800957yes there is
>>544802941>Germany being able to be technology leaderthe thing is they have this hydrogen stuff since the 70s worked out but shelved it because of managers being greedy cucks to the shareholders and so on they are nepotistic hypocrite traitor liars for profit that is all uncontrolled capitalism is at fault for this
>>544800399yepthat's currentday Germtardia>build a car with 7 fucking bombs for fuel>make people sit on top of it>profit, riight?short the fuck out of the fucking green'tards
>>544803840just do hydrogen vehicles with full self drive make it mandatory problem solved
>>544810976>have this hydrogen stuff since the 70s worked out but shelved itnein, dumpfbackeit was shelved because they NEVER worked it outthe only thing they actually worked out was that it WAS unworkable
>>544805400>businessmanlearned elder of einzelhandelskaufleute
>>544810583uhm, the whole fucking point of hydrogen fuel IS to not do that in the car
>>544811140wenn man keine ahnung hat einfach mal fresse halten hydrogen combustion engine powered cars exist longer than gasoline powered combustion engine powered cars, the first one was built in the early 1800s by some spanish guy the soviets had hydrogen powered vehicles in the 1940s and General Motors had a van model in the 60s in europe both daimler benz and bmw had hydrogen cars in the 1970s they again pushed in the 1990s and early 2000s and every time they got fucked by the established gasoline combustion lobby then the switch was made to push EV instead of hydrogen powered combustion because of the privatization of the energy market and the rigged exit from nuclear that caused the price for electricity go from ~20 cent per kWh to over 50but conveniently we have all these EV charging stations all around now such a coincidence who is profiteering from that
>>544811140here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Rivaz_enginequote:>It incorporated some features of modern engines such as spark ignition and the use of hydrogen gas as a fuel.designed and developed from 1804half a century before the gasoline combustion engine which was the benz patent motorwagen from 1885
>>544800337why do white women try so hard now to look, sound, act and talk like men? it's very strange how many videos you see where a white woman is speaking and trying hard to sound/have the mannerisms of a white male.
>>544811312Or just do it, are you a fag?
is hydrogen cheaper than gasoline?if not then fuck off
