Meds were so great in every way.Maybe every civilization has its century? Maybe Indians or slavs are next?
meds aren't white (anymore)
>>544834309Civilization stems from intelligence. It's really that simple. Smart people create and maintain technology, dumb people can't.>But why were anglos/germanics so uncivilized when Rome and Greece were prospering?Again, it's simple: they were, at the time, stupid and low-IQ. It's actually crazy how backwards northern Europeans were in the classical era, pale apes squatting and hooting impotently in the mud huts. Even literal niggers were embarrassed by wretched nords.>So what happened?Eugenics happened. The Middle Ages were essentially a 1000-year eugenic breeding program which turned northern Europeans from the least intelligent to the most intelligent of all races. There were two key features in this period: Catholicism and feudalism. Feudalism drastically reduced perpetual tribe-level violence which genetically favored aggression. Meanwhile the Church banned cousin marriage and cracked down on polygamy and adultery, forcing more women to procreate with their higher IQ husbands rather than running off with chad as had been the case historically. Female sexual preference is dysgenic, strict monogamy helped counteract that and also increased genetic diversity in the population.Notice that Greek and Roman culture was monogamous even before Christianity, which explains why they were civilized earlier.>Maybe Indians or slavs are next?Unfortunately modern breeding patterns are dysgenic, so probably not barring some dramatic change.
>>544834309crazy, if I look up Nobel Prize winning inventions, Germans made most of them d&c thread
>>544834309This is the biggest redpill that the right wing is not prepared to accept lol.
>>544834309The Sumarians created civilization.
>>544834975Fun fact. The first Nobel Prizes were awarded in only in 1901.
>>544834309>ID is literally LAZIO in a thread about RomeDidn't notice it before but that's pretty cool.
>>544835008Not a rightoid and you are embaressing yourself acting like one. Probably a retarded jeet. There were several civilizations before any European ones. Creating civilization isn't even an impressive feat. Almost everyone did it except the most bottom of barrel races. THATS the important marker. Because speed running people up to that point AND give them advanced technology has caused serious problems among the actually civilized races.
>>544834975What kind of germans?
>>544835192Italians and greeks didn't stop existing in 1901.
>>544834885>Again, it's simple: they were, at the time, stupid and low-IQExcept they weren't. They had advanced trade networks with the whole world, advanced metallurgy, poetry, etc, but maintained an isolationist stance.Why do you fuckers love to lie about this?>The Middle Ages were essentially a 1000-year eugenic breeding program which turned northern Europeans from the least intelligent to the most intelligent of all races. Also not true. They were already advanced even prior to this period.>Meanwhile the Church banned cousin marriageIcelandic Kinship and Fertility Study. Polygamy was also not common among Nords, this is again a subversion.>forcing more women to procreate with their higher IQ husbands rather than running off with chad as had been the case historically.Literally did not happen, Nords and Celts and Germans placed just as many restrictions on their women as they did after. They never allowed women power, this is again another kike subversion.Northern Europe had advanced ship building and there is evidence to suggest they taught it to the phonecians, but Kikes hate that history, that's why they love lying about it.
>>544834309Anglos didn't win shit, they piggyback on the built civ and destroyed it in less than a century
>>544834309>Maybe every civilization has its century? Maybe Indians or slavs are next?Genetics.Early Greece was Nordic, as was early Rome. Descriptions of their heroes and noble blood lines all describes them as tall with blonde hair. Bronze Age Whites came to the areas, established them, and had their blood diluted over generations.Literally every first hand description of the early stages of these populations describes them as Nordic.The oldest known boats and Sea-Faring vessels are found in Northern Europe.Most of the iconoclasm that takes place is against these Bronze Age Whites, which is exactly why China stopped allowing people to do genetic testing on the Tarrim Basin Mummies after they found out that some of them were Nords in late 2000s.
>>544834309>Memeflag>Pidgen English
>>544834309Anglo, French and Germans do have their own distinct strong cultures and achievements.
>>544835486Exactly.
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>>544834975Well most of them are Jews.
>>544834885During the classical era the Goths and other similar tribes had there own skilled crafts and normal markers. What did the northern Europeans suddenly magically became smarter? No.They just never reached anywhere the apex of Rome because they became the dominant force constantly knocking down anyone who threatens their expansion. Rome did impressive things and much was lost after its collapse but if you step back and look at the whole timeline it was rather static in terms of innovation despite it being a superpower. It spent most of its time just trying to keep together its multi ethnic empire.Funny enough Odoacer was probably one of their better rulers.
>>544835339The English Game Fowl arrived in the British Isles around roughly 300BC, how did this animal come to Europe despite being native to South Asia?Viking burial mounds consistently uncover foreign artifacts, which have consistently relayed the idea that they were trading with other population, hence the Amber Trade they had established with the rest of the world.Tin was crucial to the Bronze Age, and the British Isles were one of the largest exporters of Tin at the time.So then how did Phonecians know about these Tin supplies? How and why did they start trading with the Northern Europeans if they were supposed to be low IQ savages? Why would they even venture there in the first place?Unless of course they already knew about these Tin supplies from former contact with these Sea-Faring Northering Europeans.Curious how a race of supposed savages was able to harvest and trade one of the most crucial resources at the time with the rest of the world, and yet nobody talks about it.But it's simple. The British conquered the world because Sea Travel is in their blood. They'd been doing it since the Ice Age potentially.How do you think the first settlers of the British Isles managed to arrive except by boat?
>>544835339>Except they weren't. They had advanced trade networks with the whole world, advanced metallurgy, poetry, etcKek, this is exactly what Hotep niggers claim about Aethiopia or Mali whatever being ultra advanced and powerful in ancient times. Literally verbatim. If they were so "advanced" why didn't they leave behind any building or evidence besides some big rocks? Why did they lack writing until contact with Meds?>Literally did not happen, Nords and Celts and Germans placed just as many restrictions on their women as they did after.Pre-Christian Germanic societies were polygamous, this is an objective fact. Post-Christian Germanic as well as classical Greek and Roman societies were not. I already explained why monogamy is eugenic.It always puzzles me why white nationalists get so assmad over this simple truth. Like, I'm not even claiming we aren't racially superior. We are. I'm pointing out the manifestly obvious fact that we *bred ourselves into that superiority* during the Middle ages; it didn't just fall out of the sky.
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>>544835761>What did the northern Europeans suddenly magically became smarter? No.It wasn't magic, I explained in depth exactly how we became smarter >>544834885Low selection for aggression from less warfare, reduced sexual selection for dysgenic traits from female hypergamy, and abolition of cousin marriage.>Rome did impressive things and much was lost after its collapse but if you step back and look at the whole timeline it was rather static in terms of innovationI actually agree with this. Classical Greece and Renaissance Italy were abnormal hotspots of extreme innovation, Rome was not. A lot of that had to do with how decentralized their societies were (the city-state model is ideal for innovation).
>>544834309Greco-roman civilization was a good start, but it was ultimately an extractive society highly dependent upon using slaves from half the world to crank out luxuries for a few cities of degenerate elites. If our civilization died in the year 200 or something, we’d barely be remembered better than pajeets. The things which make our civilization great were mostly realized within the past 10000 years. Greeks and Romans started western civilization, slavs and germanics made it good.
>>544835779>Kek, this is exactly what Hotep niggers claimExcept hotep niggers don't have any genetic or archeological evidence to support their claims, whereas we have a multitude of evidence, not to mention the simple fact of history repeating itself.The hotep psyop was in fact designed with the intention of casting doubt on any Whites who would claim this ancient history, which prior to Marxist De-Colonial propoganda, much of these ideas were common knowledge.>If they were so "advanced" why didn't they leave behind any building or evidence besides some big rocks? Most of their buildings in the north were either destroyed by natural disaster, or burned to the ground by Christian and Jewish Iconoclasm.Under Louis the Pious for example, we gained the title "Pious" for how passionately he destroyed Saxon artifacts.However we have plenty of burial mounds, evidence of ship building, and advanced global trade networks, not to mention to first hand accounts of people like Herodotus, the Avesta, the Rigveda, among other ancient texts.>Why did they lack writing until contact with Meds?They didn't. Runes and other inscriptions were quite common, but they preferred oral traditions because it kept knowledge out of enemy hands.Other examples of their writings were either subverted or destroyed. >Pre-Christian Germanic societies were polygamousWrong. Some Chieftans took multiple wives, and "Modern Archeologists" use this fact to blow things out of proportion. 95%+ of Germanic society was mongamous, and there were strict rules for marriage. .We are in agreement that Monogamy is Eugenic at least.>it didn't just fall out of the sky.I agree, I'm just saying it took place much earlier. The Aryan Invasion saw men who were taller and stronger, and had stronger immune systems due to consuming pork and dairy. Seriously ask why the Pyramids appear all over the world? Or why Blue eyed and red haired mummies appear everywhere?Or why the Swastika appears everywhere?
>>544834885Many of the smartest peoples in the world today are speed running their own societal destruction. The supposedly high IQ Nordics are much farther along this track than the southern or eastern Europeans.Your analysis is neglecting the role of ideology. There's no broad ideological convergence based on intelligence because ideologies are adopted for a variety of reasons, many of which can't be reduced to rational calculation. That's why so much (meta-)political discourse is emotional. People can be shamed or seduced into believing certain things and they will only activate their reason after the fact.
>>544834975>jew prizes award jews
>>544834309The sun never sets in the Anglo empire. Can you gre*ks and rom*ns say the same about your little babies first empire? Lower your tone, medlet
>>544835973>Low selection for aggression from less warfareWarfare is one theory for how we became so advanced. We have a selection pressure that favored only the strongest tallest men. Not to mention the consumption of Dairy and Pork, which is higher in pro-biotics and forces a population to develop a stronger immune system.Take a look at the Kalash People.Take a look at the Chapapuya people in the Andes.Take a look at the Urukehu people of polynesia.How is it do you think that all these populations just magically developed nordic features outside of an environment with the right selection pressures for low melanin?How come all these cultures often share similar root languages? Or have oral traditions describing their homeland as coming from the North?How many parallels need to exist before you consider the position?If you truly believe that our traits didn't just magically appear out of nowhere, then why do these non-whites all have these particular Spikes in their history and innovation right around the time of contact with Tall Nordic looking people?
>>544834309indo europeans > asians > native americans > native islanders > africans. its the true tier list. Yamnaya chariot based patrililneal patriarchy thunder god worshipping societies on top
>>544834309What a weird choice to include Montenegro and Macedonia, as well as countries with far superior civilizations in northern Europe, yet exclude the biggest larpers that still have the worst civilization in Europe - Albania
>>544834885>Head bobbling intensifies >Saars, do not redeemLol, LMAO even
>>544835779>Head bobbling intensifies >Saars, I Aryans Brahim bullLol, LMAO even
>>544834309We should stop the infighting in unite in the idea we conquered the world, made the wheel, domesticated the cattle, spread the plow everywhere. We conquered the world and saved it from the oppressive horticulture women led societies. Africans, asians, natives etc cant say the same
>>544835973>Head bobbling intensifies >Saars, fuck you bloody bitch Lol, LMAO even
>>544836085Honestly I think we're on the same team anon, we agree on the fundamentals (eugenics and how it led to the white race being more intelligent). We just disagree about the historical circumstances.It seems like here >>544836275 you're claiming a radically revisionist historical perspective where Aryans even reached the Andes, implying their origin as a discrete group over 10,000 years ago. I'm actually interested in your thesis if you have any recommended reading, though it flies in the face of mainstream archaeology.At the same time, even if we accept this for the sake of argument, it is still true that the Middle Ages represented a time of remarkable self-improvement for Northern Europeans. No one - not the Kalash, not the Chapapya, not the Steppe Aryan tribes, and certainly not Northern Europeans prior to the year 1000 - matched the civilizational heights that Mediterraneans did in the classical period. It's not even close. So we can conclude that Rome and Greece had unique eugenic circumstances that put them above even "baseline" white genetics; and that those circumstances were repeated in Northern Europe during the Middle Ages.
>>544836034Italians did a lot more than start civilization though. St. Anselm of Canterbury practically started scholasticism and elevated the British intellectual and cultural scene. Italians also spawned the Renaissance and are one of the biggest contributors to modern literature as well. Giorgio Agamben is probably in the top 10 most famous philosophers alive today and he's Italian.Italians were unironically giving us a second Renaissance with Fascism until the movement was strangled in its crib. The ideological stagnancy of the post-war West comes down to not letting the Italians do what they do. The wealth of Italian reactionary writers from that time have basically been forgotten outside niche circles because the Germanic dominated West refuses to accept anything outside liberalism. Also they were pretty big in mathematics. Gregorio Ricci-Curbastro invented tensor calculus without which Einstein would have been fucked.
>>544834309ancient greeks and romans were aryan, go cope somewhere else mutt jeet-kike memeflag
>>544834885Christianity ended the Eugenics practice called exposure that the Romans and Greeks practiced. Catholicism encouraged the most educated to become sterile. The church was the place for the educated and reproduction was taboo in it.
>>544834309>creates civilizations>outclassed by others today
>>544836696>We just disagree about the historical circumstances.That's fine, in fact I'd be more concerned if you just accepted what I'm saying without question.I do admit a lot of it is incomplete, but the I think if anyone sees how readily Modern European history is being revised and destroyed, it's not to much of a stretch to say that it Has happened before.>I'm actually interested in your thesis if you have any recommended readingI have quite a few things you can look at depending on your prefered manner of information gathering:Audio/Visual>Asha LogosSuccinctly presents a lot of valid historical sources, from Herodotus to Jordanes to the Rigveda, and is very lucid and avoid making claims without substantiation:https://youtu.be/BLN29_DFNgg?si=sJeRoONGT2o-vFcs>Pic relThe Aryan Maori was a theory put fourth that tied the Maori language to the Indo European language group, which contradicts quite a lot of the modern narrative.Also:>Markereti Papakura, The Old Time MaoriThis is the first hand account from a well respected Maori woman who studied in Western Universities, who describes RedHeaded or Blonde Headed people in Polynesia, who supposedly descend from the Fairy Folk that were pale skinned pygmy that lived in New Zealend before the Maori arrived.Also read Captain Cooks first hand account on arrival in Polynesia, who encounters these Redheads before Colonialism, proving they aren't mutts.>https://youtu.be/rf_inGOubEg?si=8dtWmH-ZljOPUeIZ>Lucy Thompson, to the American Indian:A Northern Californian American Tribal Woman, who describes the oral traditions of her people, particularly describing the Wa'gas, or Ancient Whites.
>>544836864>During the Early Middle Ages in Europe, the History of European Morals (1869) by Irish historian William Lecky mentions that infant exposure was not punishable by law and was practiced on a large scale and was considered a pardonable offense.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exposure_(infant)So no, Christianity didn't end the practice of exposure. Nor was your average priest of above-average intelligence. Typically they would be selected from the youngest child of noble families, who tend to be less intelligent due to the mother's age. So if anything clerical celibacy was mildly eugenic, although strict monogamy and the ban on cousin marriage were much, much more impactful.
>>544834309>same skin color
>>544836696I think the Middle Ages had its pros and cons, but was ultimately dysgenic. There was rampant disease, sickness, poor hygiene, poor nutrition (i.e. bread) and a lot of persecution of those who had knowledge of the old world.It also saw the arrival of Jeets (Gypsies) and Jews, among other foreigners into Europe, which was negative for our collective genetic health.>>544836696Also read Widdukind of Corveys book, the Deeds of the Saxons, where he describes the Origin of the Saxons as potentially coming from soldiers fighting under Alexander the Great.The Oera Linda Book is another great recourse, though many people regard it as a forgery, I think at least viewing it as speculative history highlights many many parallels that are quite honestly profound.There is then the Genetic Testing done on King Tut which confirms a genetic relation to Western Europeans.There is the Tarrim Basin mummies that China stopped letting people test on.There is the Book: Atlantis, Edda and Bible, though it is very hard to find, I think there is a version on internet archive.Herodotus also describes many of these populations, such as the Scythians, as Nordic in feature.If you're not yet willing to invest in the literature, then I would suggest Asha Logos because he presents this information from a very factual and neutral observer perspective.
>>544836983Thanks, I'll check these out.One more thing: we have to consider the possibility of ancient dysgenics as well. Even IF (big if) there were highly advanced white civilizations in prehistory, that doesn't mean all white people everywhere were always super intelligent. As you yourself say, look at Modern European history for how this could happen. We could possibly conceive of Northern Europeans as a kind of decadent remnant who saw a genetic revival during the Medieval period.>>544837275>There was rampant disease, sickness, poor hygiene, poor nutrition (i.e. bread) and a lot of persecution of those who had knowledge of the old world.These are all untrue except for the disease bit, and even there the classical world saw lots of disease too. In terms of nutrition the middle ages actually saw a huge improvement over the Roman Empire: cheese, butter, and vegetable consumption skyrocketed for the average peasant compared with the Roman slave system where laborers were mostly fed gruel and oil. And big picture, I the evidence from accelerated civilizational accomplishment (the staggering level of human accomplishment by whites from ~AD 1200 onwards) speaks for itself.
>Maybe Indians are nextthey dont have the strength to do shit to you but if they could i wished they raped you, and shitted on you.
>>544837589>we have to consider the possibility of ancient dysgenics as well.Absolutely. The history of the Indian Caste system, the history of the ancient South American mixtures, and even the Iranians, Eastern Scythians, etc.Modern Whites are unhealthy, but still above average in terms of global performance. Imagine how easy it is to reverse this trend with proper nutrition, a return of Dairy, Meat, Eggs, fitness culture, and of course the Mannerbund culture that is so pervasive throughout out cultures.It isn't hard to return to these ancient roots in just a short generation or two at most, and that is why there is more propaganda levied against us then anyone else, because they fear this outcome.If even so much as 500-1000 pure breds survive, the entire Race can be rebuilt with the right eugenics program.I do not deny advancement of the Middle Ages over other populations in the world, with maybe an exception being made to Japan who despite their isolation were quite sophisticated. However, Grain diets I think did terrible damage to us long term, as processed grains were not nearly as common amongst us throughout history.We mostly ate animal products prior to this, with the exception of some Northern farmers, but their crops weren't nearly as shit.
>>544834469Her little brown feet are really fucking cuteI'd do unspeakable things to her
>>544834469Indians are the Future! They are smarter, better people and better for America than anyone. Indians are the key piece to Making America Great Again!
>>544836748Anselm of Canterbury was not italian. His birthplace and home town Aosta was Burgundian at the time. His mother was Burgundian, and he spent most of his time in Burgundy and France before going to England.
>>544834309What was the last time they won anything?
>>544834885>The Middle Ages were essentially a 1000-year eugenic breeding program which turned northern Europeans from the least intelligent to the most intelligent of all racesRetard alert
>>544834309The Holy Roman Empire lasted more than twice as long as the Roman Empire
>>544835612>satellite russians>futuristic citydoesn't existKek
>>544834309Gay image that implies they have no merit unto themselves (which they all do).
The entire planet would've been white had we fully completed our project and everybody hates us because of it.Of course the only thing that stopped us was infighting kek.
>>544838467And achieved less than 1/100th of their predecessor Embarrassing
>>544838595If it was not by the United States that was created by accident, your legacy would be similar to the french, a bunch tribalistic niggers, jeets and other dysgenic ethnicities being left over speaking your languages
>>544836275a pajeet drink more milk than anyone of those group. Just had 350 ml hot milk, i will have paneer in lunch and then dahi bada in the evening.
>>544836983>asha logoswhites are known for lying
>>544838956>The -13910 C>T mutation found in Indians is identical to the one common in European populations. It was brought to the Indian subcontinent roughly 5,000 years ago by Bronze Age pastoralists (Eurasian steppe herders)Your welcome again I suppose, is there anything we didn't do for you people?
>>544838700If America didn't go full gay retard with 1776 and join the retarded frogs, Mexico wouldn't even exist as an entity bitch.. Spaniards didnt want the smoke, nobody did
>>544837793shut up cartel whore
>>544834309The british, french and germans still deserve a spot on the table
>>544839077muh invasion theory. never happened. stop we wuzing.
>>544839102Had they not kicked you out, north america would have become a big dump
Dutch East India Company, British Imperial colonial mercantile model, Napoleonic Wars ending feudalisn, American Navy ensuring open trade modernized and civilized the world.
>>544834309What achievements?
>>544834309Meds cant be that good, got cooked by sandniggers like north africans and arabs and mutts like roaches
>>544839315They literally kicked them all out of their lands
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>>544834309>civilizationRome wuz basically just a palace economy on a continental scale. Lets pool all our resources into one city that gets sacked every other century goyim. The consuls and later emperors didn't matter in the grand scheme of things, it was the rotten institution itself that lagged Europe.It wasn't until the pagans were dismantled by based Christianity that whites were finally perfected and technology rapidly advanced.
Can we stop with the meds vs nord shit? Pretty sure it's shitskins making these threads too. The grammatical errors in the meme pic give it away
>>544834885>Greek and Roman culture was monogamous even before Christianity
>>544834885It has nothing to do with genetics. It's geography. You think it's just a coincidence that major civilizations started around large rivers in warmer climates? Northern Europeans always had the latent intelligence for civilization.
>>544839181Arabs invading north Africa and levant is just a theory too? Turks invading and spreading their language is also a theory? Nomadic tribes men have always expanded and conquered settled peoples. Indians were black skinned Dravidians (dasyu) conquered by lightskinned Caucasians who were herders and charioteers. Cope all you want
>>544839898Dasyu are demons not humans.
>>544834309>werethread over guys
>>544835486>Early Greece/Rome were not Nordic: aDNA and art show Mediterranean ancestry and phenotypes with only occasional light haired individuals in literature not population wide>Bronze Age Whites establishing and then diluting: Steppe ancestry arrived but mixed with local Neolithic farmers neither Greeks nor Romans were northern European Nordic populations>Every first hand description calls them Nordic: Classical texts and depictions do not, fair features are selective poetic traits not ethnographic reality>Oldest boats/seafaring in Northern Europe: False Mediterranean, Near Eastern and other regions have earlier or contemporaneous evidence of watercraft and seafaring>Tarim mummies = Nords + China banned tests: aDNA shows Ancient North Eurasian locals with West Eurasian affinities not Scandinavians; Chinese restrictions predate and are political, not result driven
>>544834309jew alertwoopwoopjew alertactivate emergency oven procedureswoopwoop
>>544839814True, north euros where the weaklings booted out from the nice parts
>>544842286Northern europeans just piggybacked their way into development through meds , french, german jews, iberians and anglos if you really think about it.
>>544834309Das rite(Bunch of Romans emperors were Illyrians from Serbia, same as me)
>>544838528It's funny how every single time someone mentions some Russian invention and I look under the hood - it was in Soviet times and really someone from Ukrainian territory.
>>544835612You forgot to add niggers to all those futuristic societies, to make it realistic
ahem, you should also include the spanish among the civilization builders, thanks
>>544834309>Indians mad they're nigger tier
>memeflag>north vs south bait
>>544834309>romaniaRomanians were not event on the European map in the most of time and their "achievment" is the bulletproof irrelevancy.This is how and why we can know the memeflagger is romanian.
>>544835768You are correct in everything other than the last part, humans arrived at Britain in prehistoric time by foot when there was a land connection.
