Average premium more than doubled. Rs promise no new wars, mass deportations, etc. You get none of that, but they DO fuck you out of your health insurance.
>>544876382Hahaha loser troon
>>544876382My company pays for mine :^)
>>544876382So you're making a quarter of a million dollars a year?
>>544876382its cheap if you have a job, nigger
>>544876455You have it backwards
>>544876382You voted for this, wigger
>>544876382You should look into short-term health insurance.>CaliforniaAlso, that's your problem.
>>544876382no, it's because you're in a blue state and aren't a w2. My wisconsin insurance costs $400 a month. $200 a pay check.
>>544876442Same. I pay like $30 a month. This is what happens when you’re useless to society. Consider the following: Move back to Africa
>>544876442>>544876455Employer healthcare is going the way of pension. Consider yourself very lucky
just stop being unhealthy.it's literally that easy.you're not unhealthy, are you?
>>544876382Get a job, tranny.
>>544876455>don't work for yourself, goyYes, I'm aware filthy fucking kikes want to force everyone to slave for Mr. Shekelberg just so they can get some shit plan to avoid going bankrupt or dying due to medical bills. Get fucked. Fucking shoot yourself tonight. Dems are going to sweep because of fucking faggot kikes like you.
>>544876382I just say no to health insurance and make sure to eat and exercise. If I ever get hospital bills Im just not going to pay it.They can basically all kiss my ass.
>>544876589health, vision, dental and life insurance, 401k matching, pto and tuition reimbursement is pretty standard for anything that requires a degree bud. The new meta is unlimited time off, wfh and wellness/spa stipends
>>544876382Health insurance is a scam anyway. If you're actually hurt just go to the ER and they'll fix you up even if you don't have insurance. If you get a bill, just throw it away. They won't do anything because they don't actually care, and will write it off as a loss to help keep their non-profit status. That's what all the illegals and niggers do, so why shouldn't an actual American do it too?
>>544876563>>544876442You guys think your employer pays for it...it's you that pays for it with your work.It's part of your compensation. Compensation you could be putting in your pocket. You guys clearly have no idea how much your employer is contributing to make it happen.
>>544876676I'm literally a job creator with two part-time employees. Fuck you, fuck Trump, fuck Republicans. I hope the communists take over and murder every Republican retard like you. You get what you deserve. Go choke to death on kike dick.
the actions of the criminal medical industrial complex will be one of the core reasons for global nuclear war.
>>544876382>not being an uninsured Chad who NEVER goes to the doctorI've never given the insurance/doctor kikes a single cent.
>>544876382Hey, at least you're not a socialist! Israel appreciates their free healthcare paid with your tax dollars
>>544876857I get paid $120k/year and have a $45k/year benefits package, you are told exactly how much your benefits package is and get an itemized breakdown. It is cheaper for you to get it through your employer buying the benefits in bulk than it is for you to buy them yourself. I hate poorfag degreeless losers like you so much its unreal
>>544876442And you’re a wageslave so not the best tradeoff
>>544876980I hate corporate kike bots like you who don't realize the system is designed to force you into globocorp slavery. You're as stupid and unaware as a shitlib. I look forward to Rs getting smoked in midterms and 2028 and Zion Don's family along with all you retarded NPC faggots going to prison. Oh and your little redneck retard revolution is never happening either because you're a bunch of worthless coward pussies (same reason you slave for globocorp).
>>544876857>You guys think your employer pays for it...it's you that pays for it with your workThats the point. Given I dont have a ton of choice in the marketplace but I do get to choose my tier of service.
>>544877028Office work is based, destroying your body in the trades sucks though
>>544876856this is absolutely false. do not follow this anon's advice.the medical billing company has authority to charge-off your debt. they write it off, but your credit is RUINED in the process.default on medical debt, and you can forget about being approved for even a cell phone plan.
>>544877111>Office work is basedIn a few years 90% of it will be AI doing business with other AI in other corporate data centers.
>>544876382Look, maintaining your tranny surgeries is expensive and shouldn't be subsidized.
>>544877090Im a socialist, but working 40 hours a week is normal and based. 9-12 is emails and phone calls, 12-1 is lunch at a restaurant, 1-4 is spreadsheet or reports, 4-5 is emails and then gym and dinner with gf
>>544877120Illegals give fake names all the time. There's nothing stopping a White man from doing that. Just don't be retarded and have identifying documents on your person. And call an ambulance from the street.
>paying insurence so your kids can sue your doctor for malpractice when you die.LolLmaoHealthcare is joke.Just use chatgpt
>>544877227I forgot this site is full of 20-something idiots. I've aged out. Best of luck.
>>544877211Cool then ill get a fat severance package and retire very early since my employment contract prevent me from getting fired unless i fuck up massively :^)
>>544876382>20 dependents>smoker>gay with HIV>age 80+Show us the form you filled in OP.
>>544877236also retarded. do you work in an emergency room or urgent care clinic?
>>544877120>your credit is RUINED in the process>taking on debt>not locking all your credit bureau accounts after the one company had a music major lady with no prior it experience as their head of security
>>544876382How many family members in this plan?
>>544877120>oh no, this might hurt my precious GOY SLAVE score!Nigger, no one who can't afford health insurance and doesn't get it through work gives a fuck about how it will affect their credit score because their credit score is probably already terrible.
>>544877281You sound like a try hard Califag. I'm a degreeless manager grug and my health insurance is 60 a month and pays for everything lol. Get bent.
>>544876382I could even tolerate another Middle East war for Israel, we're ruled by kikes, whatever. Just do the other things too...
>>544876442No, your company takes money out of your paycheck to pay into a discounted group rate insurance coverage plan.>>544877120Depends entirely on the amount of debt. I had major surgery a few years back, had better insurance then so about 90% of it was ultimately covered, but I still ended up paying about $12K out of pocket over the course of a couple years. I had a random ~$100 charge from some lab that I got harassed by a debt collector over, but since I couldn't find any documentation of the lab charge through the hospital, I just ignored it - fuck em. The collection agency texted me once a month like clockwork for about five years and then stopped. Nobody's going to file charges or a lawsuit against you over routine labs, but surgical costs, anesthesia, nurses prepping you before surgery or treating you afterwards? Oh they'll definitely fuck you up over that and tank your credit rating.
>>544876382If you read those numbers and come to any other conclusion than health insurance being a scam, then you are too stupid to be helped. Over forty thousand dollars a year you could be saving and keeping for yourself to use if you need it. Instead you're giving it away to people who will bend over backwards to deny your claim whenever you finally need them. It's a scam, and you're stupid for paying it.
>>544877475someone trying to make their own way cares, chud.>>544877417doesn't work that way, chud.>>544877598medical debt charge off is worse than a lawsuit you idiot. you can't fight medical debt charge off. at least with a lawsuit you have a chance to counter their argument. there's no due process when the med company decides to fuck you financially for life. majority of anons in this thread going to be wrong. OP is right. this shit is fucked and inhumane.
>>544876382just take chlorine dioxide and stop paying taxes
>>544876864hire some jeet cattle, bud
How many times are you going to the doctor per year and for what? A normal person saving 40k per year would literally never want for anything medically or otherwise by the time they reached old age. You are a moron if you're paying these exorbitant rates instead of just saving that money. That or you're some kind of genetic freak that shouldn't even be alive in the first place but modern medical science exists to extract as much money from you and your family as possible.
>>544876382>drumpf needs to give muh insurance jews more taxpayer money!!!>If he doesn't give insurance kikes infinite money then how will they get rich?
>>544877777checked
>>544877777>medical debt charge off is worse than a lawsuit you idiot. Not remotely close to true. If you lose a lawsuit, they can force you to pay back whatever debt you owe, plus any interest or fees or penalties added by the court. Even if you can't pay it, they will still do things like garnish your wages and put liens on your property and seizing whatever assets that they can get.Medical debt charge off just lowers your good goy credit score. It will make it more difficult or impossible to get approved for loans or mortgages or credit cards or a security clearance with a low credit score, but they can't actually seize any money from you or put you in jail or anything like that. And again, most people who don't have health insurance and can't afford to pay their medical bills probably don't have a good credit score anyway.>decides to fuck you financially for lifeIt goes away after seven years, numbnuts. Even in the worst case scenario it will only fuck up your credit score for seven years, then it gets removed.
It's cheaper just to fly to another country and pay for healthcare out of pocket
>>544876382Your health insurance is paying for all the illegals that don't pay.
>>544876864>I'm literally a job creator with two part-time employees.In other words, three unemployed trannies in some kind of degenerate polycule trying to sell furry hentai to other trannies in their discord.
>>544878518>wordswords>wordsthe medical corpo scum and their enablers need to pay in blood. it's too late to apologize. too late.
>>544876382what is health insurance for? just dont get sick. dont hurt yourself. its not hard. if something looks like it might hurt you dont do it. bam saved you $3k a month
>>544876408>I like paying double for health for no real reason>>544876442Of course you have to be a cartel member to get health care in US. Makes sense.
Yeah I don't see how anybody can defend American healthcare. The only people who will defend it are people so rich they can't wrap their head around how terribly scummy and scammy it is since they have enough money to go "what's the problem just pay the bill lmao" the arrogant retards
>>544878598Yeah it's just cheaper to not be American.Just leave.
>>544878764What's worse is that it doesn't benefit the quality of healthcare for the 1% at all. It's been in decline because of their privatisation. We tried privatisation here and it just immediately made healthcare worse universally, rich or poor. So it makes no logical sense to do this. That and medical advancements no longer have as many state tethers, so they just become snake oil salesmen.
>>544878915The system isn't what's bad by itself, it's the lack of accountability for those that abuse the various interconnected systems that allowed it to bloat to the level it is now. Before the year 2000 or so American healthcare was good. The problem is from a number of cascading failures that all combine into one big shit show. It's rather complicated to explain in a single short post but to surmise the handful of the most obvious causes it's as followsthe infinite browns coming in getting healthcare then refusing to pay at which point they just raise the premium's on whites because they're the only ones paying. Basically whenever a brown doesn't pay they just put the browns bill on a white person to pay for them instead. Then you have shit like that hospital up charging the insurance so they can get every dollar they can out of them even for shit that in a just world should cost nothing such as a scan. The insurance then raises their premium's to pay for the all the up charges they constantly get and on the insurance companies side they are incentivized to charge you a fortune but then turn around and deny you coverage whenever they can. I'm trying to keep it simple but that's the gist. American society is full of parasites, leeches and scammers and the average white person is the one holding it all up alone
>>544876382no more handouts, poor. get a job
>>544879580>no more empathy, subhuman. end yourself.
>>544876382>Californiayou deserve this
>>544876442kek same people that tell you there is "no such thing as free healthcare" will literally claim they have free healthcare.
>>544876382you are probably subsidizing other peoples healthcare i stopped buy insurance awhile ago i hope nothing bad happens to me
>>544879534Immigrants aren’t getting health insurance. They go almost entirely to the emergency room where they can’t be turned away. Guess who signed that bill into law…..Reagan.
Americans are so far gone that if you even suggest the idea of not spending 4000 dollars a month for a basic right everywhere else in the west or keeping your foreskin they find it extremely insulting.
>>544876382Americans do not deserve healthcare.
>>544876382Why the fuck are you using $43,324.08 worth of healthcare each year?
>>544876442Employer healthcare is the same as free education or compulsory savings schemes. You are paying with reduced salaries for the "privilege" of allowing your employer to control every aspect of your life and invest in their sister companies lol. Genuinely the worst healthcare system imaginable and the same tactics you're supposed to use on itinerant foreign workers lol. LAND OF THE "FREE".
>>544876382If my health insurance jumps again I'm canceling it and not having any.
>lol
>>544876382>Based on your healthcare needstime to die, you fat retard
>>544876382>blue>california>this is somehow trumps faultlol
>>544876857Dang otherwise 100% of the profit from my corporation would go to me if it wasn't for health insurance.
>>544882689An if you develop cancer?
>>544882809Your salary would be substantially higher. Best you not think about that and keep focusing on DA NETWORK and funding the existence of your pet rape apes. Maybe post about how Euros have no guns or something to make yourself feel better.
>>544882802It’s federal
>>544882813It doesn't actually pay for shit anyways so it's not like this argument works anymore. They cover 60% of a fake inflated cost but only after you pay 20k cash to the hospital but only after you pay $600/month cash for the insurance too
>>544876382>CaliforniaWhy not hop on MediCal?Why even get insurance? You're only helping fund insurance companies and private hospitals.
>>544883047What 29 year old is using Medicaid?
>>544876382I pay 0 premiums. My jobs pays for health, dental, vision, for my family of 5. This seems like a skill issue.Hell even when I worked at a gas station they offered cheap insurance. I’d suggest you get a job.
Its my job to come up with insurance premium pricing AMA ( I won't respond because im drunk and phone posting)
Nigger pays for health insurance when Pablo goes to the ER and get shit for Free. Your Lost Son
