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Why do you never see “denounce the Torah” on /pol/ when so many here hate circumcision?

Picrel is Genesis 17
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>>544885061
You know why. It's because they're stupid or uneducated.
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Christ is Kike
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The Torah is true, the talmud is not
But you leave out the important context that this is supposed to read like a history book and that most of these things have already happened or come to pass other than some future prophecies
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>>544885803
>the torah is true
snakes can't talk you fucking dipshit
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>>544885061
That was an order for jews before Christ. It was never a general instruction for everyone.
The New Testament is for everyone, and it specifically says don't get circumcised - which shows you the worth of "I go by the bible alone" US protestants.
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>>544886632
Okay, so why is OT so adamant about foreskins? Why did change his mind?
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>>544885061
Because half of american flags are mexicans.

And mexicans are practiacally all chrisgolem.
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>>544885061
The Bible describes the original covenant circumcision of Abraham as a partial removal of the foreskin, specifically defined as CUTTING ONLY THE REDUNDANT END EXTENDING BEYOND THE GLANS, a practice known as Milah. This initial form involved REMOVING ONLY THE TIP OF THE FORESKIN, which remained distinct from the later, more radical Jewish ritual called Periah that fully exposed the glans.

Milah vs. Periah: The biblical Milah was a minor ritual where the tip was cut, whereas Periah (flaying) was introduced later by the rabbinate to prevent individuals from appearing uncircumcised for social or athletic advantages.

"The original version in Judaic history was either a ritual nick or cut done by a father to the acroposthion, the part of the foreskin that overhangs the glans penis. This form of genital nicking or cutting, known as simply milah, became adopted among Jews by the Second Temple period and was the predominant form until the second century CE."

"Acroposthion (also spelled akroposthion) is the tapered, fleshy tip of the foreskin that extends beyond the terminus of the underlying glans penis. Derived from the Ancient Greek akropósthion (meaning "foreskin tip"), this structure is distinct from the posthe, which is the portion of the foreskin that merely enfolds the glans.

Key characteristics include:

Appearance: It is often described as a "snout," "overhang," or "nipple-like" protrusion that serves as reserve skin for the erect state."

>So what does this mean, anon?
Real, biblical circumcision essentially left the foreskin intact. This is circumcision as defined by Yahweh.

>Wait so
Yup, we were all lied to about what circumcision actually is. Circumcision is not practiced today, it is "flaying" that is practiced today.

Rabbis were annoyed that Israelites could appear uncircumcised which is why they enforced Periah (flaying) in the first place.
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>>544888250
>essentially left the foreskin intact
Which is just another way of saying it mutilated the foreskin. Circumcision is always wrong, stop coping.
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>>544888404
>Circumcision is always wrong
These are the words of a slave of Satan, anon. I am not interested in the words of one of his jackals.
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>>544885061
I denounce jews, poos and yous.
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>>544888250
>circumcision didn't actually mean circumcision
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>>544885061
The group that practices circumcision the most are islamists.
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>>544888599
It's not good to stay ignorant my friend. Let me teach you that the "jews" today consider it incorrect to call them Israelite/Hebrew/Judean.

And yes, Milah (circumcision) is not Periah (flaying)

would you say that a pineapple is a kind of apple? I am testing your logical aptitude here.
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>>544888717
Literally took 2 seconds you lieing cunt.
https://www.thetorah.com/article/israelites-or-jews
https://www.encyclopedia.com/environment/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/judaism-overview
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>>544888980
lmfao, thank God we don't have lying snakes like you on our imageboard, we have actual standards.
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>>544888980
All you jackals can do is lie & swindle, and that is why it's so easily to constantly expose you.
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>>544888599
Edomites were mixed within the population after the return from Babylon. For example Herod was an edomites.
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>>544885061
kek. It just occurred to me how funny it would be to enact a purity tests for any explicit Christianposting to have them denounce the old testament.
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>>544885061
I denounce the Talmud, the Torah and the Tanakh!

Also I popularized the phrase "I denounce the Talmud, the Torah and the Tanakh", check the archives
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>>544890614
Shalom, Rabbi!

What are you trying to pour into the well?
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>>544888599
wow quality post im so glad you were here to contribute
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>>544885061
Why is this dick hungry pedOgogue so obsessed with dicktip?
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>>544885061
I see that used all the time. It's just usually easier for people to denounce the talmud. I denounce them both, the quran, and the bible as well.
I believe practitioners of circumcision, male or female, should be put to death.
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>>544888065
Because he realized he was being a fucking faggot and would burn in Hell for it.
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>>544888717
You're still engaging in pilpul. Colloquially speaking, circumcision in modern terms refers to any form of alteration or mutilation of the genitalia, including the foreskin or any other part. It is all barbaric, regardless of your attempts to split hairs over milah and periah.
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>>544885061
I genuinely belive the torah is written about a human tribes relationship with a power malevolent entity that lied about being the creator of the universe and contains self-serving alterations and dramatizations of history (such as exodus happening, but it was actually levite jews being expelled from egypt after being blamed for a leprosy outbreak) to keep people believing it

Jesus was also this satan, as was muhammad. He was just testing new programs on humanity to eventually create suffering beyond what the ancient world could have ever comprehended.
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>>544888065
Because Christ fulfilled the Law and enacted a new Covenant.
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>>544891611
>I'm tired of tortured baby souls, humans
>you're capable of suffering in much more complex ways
>*creates christianity, making the modern world inevitable*
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>>544885061
What's a Torah?
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>>544885061
the torah is stupid
the talmud is satanic
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I denounce the Torah. There, you saw it, on the internet.
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>>544885061
If you are Christian, you can't denounce the Torah, because it's central to understanding Christ and his sacrifice. No, you don't need to circumcise yourself or anyone else, because we aren't under the covenant established by Abraham. That covenant has been fulfilled by Christ's sacrifice. Now someone is going to respond here by posting about how Christ said he wasn't going to eliminate the law. And that's correct. We can think of the covenant like a contract. Christ fulfilled the terms and conditions of the contract, providing a sacrifice so valuable that it pays for the sins of every human who ever lives (and if you don't understand why sacrifices are needed, fucking read the Torah. You need an animal sacrifice for just about everything). But fulfilling a contract doesn't make the words on the paper disappear. It just means no one is obligated to follow it anymore.

So no, you don't have to circumcise yourself.
You don't have to abstain from pork or shellfish.
You don't have to abstain from wearing mixed fabrics or following any of those archaic laws.
You just have to have faith that Christ *is* God, and that his sacrifice was valid.

Though bear in mind that faith has to be genuine. You can't just say it. You have to believe it with your heart. And if you do believe it with your heart, one sign would be that you genuinely want to trust all the other words he's said too.
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>>544891477
>Circumcision in modern terms refers to any form of alteration or mutilation of the genitalia

Modern definitions of circumcision - "especially : the cutting off of the foreskin of males that is practiced as a religious rite by Jews and Muslims and by others as a social custom or for potential health benefits (such as improved hygiene)"

"Circumcision is the surgical removal of the foreskin, the loose fold of skin that covers the glans (tip) of the penis."

"The posthe is the portion of the foreskin that enfolds the glans penis, starting at the coronal sulcus."

Cutting off of the foreskin (posthe) of males = modern definition of circumcision

>>544888250
"The original version in Judaic history was either a ritual nick or cut done by a father to the acroposthion"

"Derived from the Ancient Greek akropósthion (meaning "foreskin tip"), this structure is distinct from the posthe, which is the portion of the foreskin that merely enfolds the glans."

Modern day circumcision is defined as Piriah (flaying) of the foreskin (posthe)

Since ancient Israelites/Judeans had their posthe intact (which is why they could appear uncircumcised) then your "modern definitions of circumcision" do not apply here.

Do not embarrass your rabbis here, kiddo.
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>>544891065
Your edomite rabbis are displeased with how poorly you handled this. How will you continue pretending to fake being jews like this?
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>>544892162
>The Goyim know about HaChaim, shut it down!
Oy vey
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>>544892247
We know you Edomites subverted the Judean power structure and now call yourselves "jews" despite knowing that none of you are the actual Judeans of the Bible.

That is why Jesus Christ called you the Synagogue of Satan, for you are people who claim to be descended from the Israelites, but you lie.

Your time is up, Canaanite. Everyone will see that you are not a Judean no matter how badly you LARP as one. You are truly of your father the Devil and your only hope of Salvation is through Christ Jesus.

https://digitalmonastery.church (for Christians & seekers of Christ only)
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>>544891611
So the unchanging deity changed?
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>>544885992
Not any more, schmuck.
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>>544892629
His plan unfolding over time =/= God changing, lol, lmao even.

God declared the End from the Beginning, it was always going to be this way. As Christians we enjoy the story progression whereas for non-Christians it's like you guys are slowly sliding down into Hell honestly. Makes sense why you're all so bitter and sorelosers about it etc.
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>>544885061
Muslims consider the Torah a sacred text.
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>>544892695
God said his covenant forever was to cut off your foreskin.

Then, he said it doesn't matter at all?
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>>544892719
The prophets and apostles emphasized that this physical act was meant to symbolize a deeper, circumcision of the heart.

Key biblical references clarify this distinction:

Deuteronomy 10:16 and Jeremiah 4:4 command the people to "circumcise the foreskin of your heart" and remove spiritual stubbornness, indicating that physical rites were insufficient without inner repentance.

Deuteronomy 30:6 promises that God Himself will eventually circumcise the hearts of His people so they may love Him fully.

Romans 2:29 and Colossians 2:11 define true circumcision as a spiritual reality of the heart, performed by the Holy Spirit rather than by human hands.

Thus, while the physical covenant was described as everlasting, the essential requirement was always inner spiritual renewal.

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Nowadays, anyone can get saved through Christ alone without requiring physical circumcision, as to be saved by Christ is to undergo the spiritual transformation/circumcision required to become a child of God. We are (spiritually) circumcised in Christ.

That is why we are now spiritually alive whereas non-Christians are spiritually dead. We are born again of the Holy Spirit and spiritually circumcised (of Sin's dominion)
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>>544892890
Genesis 17 doesn't say that physical circumcision is insufficient. It says nothing about it symbolizing the heart, and why would it? Why would the penis (the head of the penis, to be specific) symbolize the heart? Wouldn't you scarify your chest in that case, like the Samaritan Pentateuch says Zipporah did to herself?



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