Ian Proud claims Ukraines troop losses (killed and wounded) are at least 10 times higher than Russias, and likely more, based on confirmed data. He references an academic paper by Alexander Grable, a PhD candidate in War Studies, presented at the Finnish Defence University.https://thepeacemonger.substack.com/p/irretrievable-losses-why-the-russiaAlexander Grable is a PhD candidate and Graduate Teaching Assistant in War Studies at Kings College London (dual UK/US citizen). He holds a BA from Johns Hopkins and MA from Sciences Po Paris (post-Soviet focus, plus MGIMO study). Prior work: INTERPOL and UK Crown Prosecution Service. Research focuses on the Russia-Ukraine war, Russian military history, and conventional warfare. His PhD challenges the view of early-war Russian failure, arguing Russians often outperformed Ukrainians operationally despite being outnumbered.His paper "Irretrievable Losses" (presented Feb 2026 at Finnish National Defence University Russia Seminar; published in proceedings) uses open-source data to reassess casualties.Core claim: Western narratives of far higher Russian losses are completely wrong. Confirmed data show Ukrainian irretrievable losses (killed/permanently disabled) at least 10x higher than Russian - often more.Key evidence:Ukrainian amputee figures far exceed Russian ones (28-35:1 in matched data).Body-exchange ratios 12.5 Ukrainian:1 Russian.Critiques Mediazona-style Russian death tallies as incomplete when cross-checked.Supports this with combat footage, recruitment (Ukraine forced mobilisation vs Russian paid volunteers), and Russian firepower advantages (artillery often 10:1+, absolute domination in air force), advantages in training, equipment, and reconnaissance-strike capabilities support sustained attrition favourable to Russia.I am quite surprised to read the guys analysis - he literally reads my thoughts xD
If Ukraine's losses were ten times Russia's, then there wouldn't be any Ukrainians left. Don't be dumb.
ok pidor
>>544894728>If Ukraine's losses were ten times Russia's, then there wouldn't be any Ukrainians left. Don't be dumb.Population of Ukraine on the regimes controlled territory shrunk from 42 mln in 2022 to 25 mln in 2026. The fact alone that hohols are being abducted from streets for almost last 3 years and their increasingly catastrophic AWOL/desertion figures confirm this analysis.
>>544894744As if you care about hohol casualties. Only TZD matters, whatever it takes as long as it is not you on the front line. Why are you such cowards to admit this.
>>544894647Russia has banned the collection of demographic census taking up to 2028 while Ukraine has not. Consider this while scrolling this thread and OPs claims.
>>544894845Russia should extend the war also on the chihuaha shitholes - they are full of Ukroid draft dodgers who prefer eating pizza to fighting xD
>>544894647if you weren't a brain dead retard you'd know that a phd candidate is not a legitimate authority in anything other than writing some bullshit no one will ever read.t. phd holder (unfortunately)
>>544894647>>544894845https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqOac-J5wvoWatch educational video , you will understand who is behind the war>>544894891Totall BullshitRussia has census every 10 years and its demographic data is collected online every month
>>544894647Russia clearly has a higher kill rate but body exchange is worthless because the ones who capture the land capture the bodies
>>544894891>Russia has banned the collection of demographic census taking up to 2028 while Ukraine has notUnder Ukrainian law, national censuses are postponed while martial law is active. Moreover, in late 2025, Ukraines Prosecutor Generals Office removed statistics on unauthorized absence (CЗЧ / AWOL) and military desertion from its public open-data reports citing "national security" as these numbers multiplied geometrically from few to hundreds of thousands.
>>544894647Behead all zigger
>>544894647Ok vodkanigger.
>>544894647Their (Ukrainian) complete war effort would collapse long time ago if they lost 10 million soldiers by now, I know you are a lying sack of shit but now you are being extra retarded on top of it too.
>>544895042Thats absurd. Recently Ukraine took a lot of land (Lyman direction), yet the recent body exchange is still 1:10 in favour of Russians.
>>544895087>10 million soldiers by nowWut? Their losses oscilate around 2 mln max.
>>544895042In this case the body exchange rate should change after the glorious pigger victories like operation swinaldi
>>544895087ukrainians lost only 2 million soldiers, rest are civilian natural reduction and emigration
>>544894647I seriously doubt Ukrainians are collecting the bodies of dead Russian soldiers. This is an easy explanation for the lack of exchange in the fallen. This war needs to end. My government is absolutely criminal for funding this genocide.
>>544895255>I seriously doubt Ukrainians are collecting the bodies of dead Russian soldiers. This is an easy explanation for the lack of exchange in the fallenThey dont collect a lot of Russian bodies because there is nothing to collect because mostly hohols die in this attrition grinder, not Russians. If they could, they certainly would xD
>>544894647>sustained attrition favourable to Russiahe could've just looked at the maps
The schizo jew is posting russian lies on the internet again. Why are you working on shabbat?
>>544895255>My government is absolutely criminal for funding this genocide.Thats really nothing compared to USraeli "COVID vaccines" that mass murdered hundreds of millions already and will wipe out billions long term
>>544895087>if they lost 10 million soldierAbsolute retard germoid can't even read
>>544895332Where have these hunders of millions died? Inside your mentally deficient, mentally ill schizo mind?
>>544895393They die everyday, non-stop. Thats how genomic instability kills xD
>>544894728All the figures on Russian losses are also fake if you didn't know. > Thousands every week> Ukrain in another huge victory> 50 Russians for every ukranian. It impressive that anyone ever believed the propaganda out of ukrain.
ukrainian human losses not problem for libs, they already have huge replacing migration plan for ukraine. So, everything is fine.
>>544895469I dont care about dead hohols either, desu. First, i like Russia so i wish you well, guys. Second, my dream is also a genocide of millions of draft dodging piggers infesting my country xD
>>544895508Why are you not in Israel?
>>544895109It's how it works on average. You could take a town, lose 100 men to their 10 and then when it comes to a body swap you have 10 of theirs and they have none of yours
>>544895159Depends if there was fighting there or a withdrawal
>>544894777>Check20 million hohols go poof and the golems can't even acknowledge it.
>>544895596>You could take a town, lose 100 men to their 10 and then when it comes to a body swap you have 10 of theirs and they have none of yoursAnd this "rule" works only for hohols, not for Russians? xD
How is a forever war good for Ukrainians? This is a far worse outcome for them than surrendering land. Not that anyone actually cares about them, obviously.
>>544895596Reguardless Russia is bleeding ukrain and getting what they want. Mostly.
>>544895301Yeah and when they kill a soldier with a drone they don't walk 10km through a mine field and drone killzone to get his body
>>544895660A literal kike right here. Rat faced mother fucker.
>>544894845You just revealed their hypocrisy. That's an epic win, brother.
>>544895693Russians have drones too, even more than hohols recently xD
>>544894647> Alexander GrableOP is a grabbler too xD
>>544895644Millions left when the war started.But Ukraine has easily lost over 1.5 million kia.
>>544895686Depleting Europes gayest countries too
>>544895042Erm but I thought Ukraine is continuously pushing back the zigger invaders since 2022? What gives?
Imagine proudly proclaiming you are a brainwashed idiot.
>>544895724Yeah about time too, Ukrainians definitely have a lot of karma to pay back with their drone crimes
>>544894647Its you guys fault. You kept sperging about oldest swastika and ancient yamnaya to rabbis here. now they are killing your meme swastika nation.
>>544894647Then how come russia has not yet taken the whole country? At such losses there would be nothing stopping them
>>544894777Russia refuses to accept returned bodies because it leads to payouts for family (vs MIA) and looks bad. Meanwhile they are very efficient at sending back dead Ukranians (for essentially the same reasons).Also when Russia does a meatwave they end up controlling the shitty territory they capture. Therefore they already have the bodies of their dead meat.Still Ukraine has lost this war though. It lost it at the start. Every year their population declines further, there isnt going to be any rebuilding of the people there. The place is just emptying.
>>544894647Good morning shiling SAAAAAR
>>544895508Thanks.
>>544895957Because it's death toll and not land taken. Also Russia have never wanted the whole country.
>>544895159why is it going down, ziggie?
>>544895957There are still 20M Piggers left in Ukraine according to Zelensky.
Ukraine they're concealing their losses with mass graves and also acting like Mercenary units are their countrymen's units.Russia is mitigating it's losses using North Korean's, Prisoners and slowely reporting losses.There's your facts, acknowledge them or pretend your piano dick playing pervert is some kind of military genius, your choice.
>>544895999They still have not taken all the land they wanted then and ended the war?
>>544895641This inconvenient fact will continue to be ignored by subhumans.
>>544895976Total delusion. also kill yourself faggot.
>>544895976its reverserussia pays compensations for dead and benefits for veteransukraine cant pay even with western help, it is around 600 billions usd for 2 mln dead and 100 bln more for crippled, which is more than they owe to trump lol
>>544896044Are they some supersoldiers that can somehow magically halt advancement of a nation that has population 6 times bigger than that? Whats the issue then on russias end?
>>544894647>attacking side has >10:1 k:d ratio against the defenders>but somehow frontline barely moved since 2023there are actually people who believe this
>>544896143they are using all available men, thats all; russia is using medium size force just to grind all of thatzog is panicking because ukrainian goyim are slowly ending and they still cant get promised land
>>544894891nafo troons need to lie better
>>544896122If someone invades your country. If after years of fighting and the help of the worlds only hyperpower, and the whole of the EU, you havent managed to eject them or even take back an inch of your territory, if youve had to mobilise your whole workforce, if you can only run your government using loan money from IMF and commercial partners (hello BlackRock, Fidelity, Vanguard) all underewritten by UK, then you have lost.... even if Russia cannot yet be said to have officially won.It's over,. its just a meat grinder now. Nobody is moving back to ukraine anyway. Even the soil in the fields is now contaminated by glass fibres. That and a million drone batteries. They wont even be able to grow crops lol.https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/articles/2026/05/10/8034095/So EU countries will need to accept the remaining crippled Ukies as migrants in the end.
>>544896136>russia pays compensations for dead and benefits for veteransThis is why Russia perpetually said "MIA" because MIAs dont get any payments, not death payment for family or cripple payment for vets. They are just going to keep declaring them MIA for years.
>>544896143Just holding more flat land isnt an advantage if it results in more losses than if you just stayed put. Everything is also very heavily mined. So not only do you open yourself up to strikes but you have to spend years demining the territory you gained. And even then you cant just farm the land or build industry on it while the war is ongoing. According to your logic the entire planet should be one big country because the winners of a war would always occupy the entire territory of the losing side. This is just not how things work.
>>544896232>but somehow frontline barely moved since 2023Russians are already on the outskirts of Slavyansk and Kramatorsk, retard, the only two cities in the Donetsk People's Republic that are not under Russian control. It's not only hohols who are fighting there on the nazi side, there are also hundreds of thousands of nafo mercenaries from Colombia, Finland, Poland, Romania, and Estonia, and there's a leaked Finnish government report which states that Finland alone has lost over 30,000 KIA and WIA, and it was by 2025.
>>544895976All these 1 post shills
>>544894728>there wouldn't be any Ukrainians leftThere are barely any left, vast majority of 22 mil is elderly and children. iirc there is like 6-9 mil left capable of fighting
>>544894997>>544896311>https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/08/01/russia-limits-access-to-key-economic-and-demographic-data-amid-downturn-concerns-a90068Eat more ox shit Pidors
>>544894647So... 2 more weeks and you can go home?
>>544896388Most of the occupied ukraine is like that tho, the land is trash for a good decade, was it worth the billions and dead ruskies, just to get some bombed out shithole with no people in it? Might as well get more, this just sounds like propaganda cope.
>>544894647Btw when Russia deals with hohols, they should continue with the polish vermin, because there are lots of enemies of Russia within this shithole of yours.
>>544896514I agree. They should begin the purge from local kiked USraeli-owned "elite" tho xD
>>544894891and as usual the finngolians are fucking liars, everyday its like this
>>544896232russian veteran soldiers often had 10-15:1 k:d against ottomans who used different forms of military slaveryukraine uses 17 century army recruitment in 21 century war lol>>544896368>russia will run out of money in 2 weeks russia lost a bit more than 150k dead/missing during whole warthis is less than 20% of all forces involved in ukraine, 10% of active army, 6% of all people involved in army and military logistic and even less if you include turnover (veterans, new contractors and so on)
>>544896499My take is that both sides are run by kikes and the only point of this war is to kill as many white people as possible. Youre a light switch brained moron.
>>544896567Why would russians betray their masters?
>>544895042>the ones who capture the land capture the bodiesoh so you are saying the frontline is moving ?this is obvious russian propaganda kek
>>544896499Eastern Ukraine is an essential buffer zone for Russia, so yeah it was worth it.
>>544896436>already on the outskirtsthey were there in 2023>Finland alone has lost over 30,000 KIA and WIA, and it was by 2025kek, can I see the report? the graves? the names? anything>Polandthere's like 30 confirmed dead Poles since 2022Come on dude, do you think people would need to come up with this kind of shit if the war was anywhere close to ending? if the 10:1 k:d was real it'd be fucking over in 6 months.
>>544896616Buffer for what? Their own paranoia they cook up against the west?
>>544895976the most beautiful brigade 77 projectionyou make hillary clinton pround, you nigger loving cocksucker
>>544896589>russian veteran soldiers often had 10-15:1 k:d against ottomans who used different forms of military slaveryand did those russians struggle to advance 30 km over 30 years or did it go better for them? Pizarro had an infinity k:d against the Incas but had results to show for that.
>>544896567Nah, they should remove all of y'all backstabbers who illegally seceded from Russia in 1918. All of the polish degenerate race.
>>544894777checked and Paraguayan war pilled!
>>544896616>Eastern Ukraine is an essential buffer zone for Russia, so yeah it was worth it.no east ukraine is liberated russian clay,west ukraine will the buffer zone.
>>544896595Why not send in more russians and finish the deal for good, on both sides?
>>544894647you do understand this can't be realstic since the ruskies have lost 1.5 million by any estimates and the ukraninas just dont have that many people that are male and in combat ageor maybe youre just retarded , which is more likelyNow go back to Nizhny HUYgorod and prepare for conscription Hevgeny and STOP CHANGING THIS VPN we can still tell it's you niggerthis is not facebook you aint tricking anyone.or better yet kys faggot hahahahahha
>>544895423Can we see a source for those numbers?
>>544896685>they were there in 2023They're much closer now than in 2023>kek, can I see the report? the graves? the names? anythingLook it up on Yandex, I ain't your personal secretary>there's like 30 confirmed dead Poles since 2022Yeah, confirmed. Now multiply it by at least 1000 if you want to know more realistic numbers.Nafo is losing; it's losing manpower, it's losing territory, it's losing equipment at a much faster rate than Russia.
>>544896436>there's a leaked Finnish government reportMay we see it?
>>544896859>YandexZdrastvui cumrade
>>544894891Give me the source you steppe monkey
>>544896474>the jew timeslearn to use google lol, data about russian population is available online>>544896755yessometimes they were advancing slowly during 100 years, that why russia is the biggest country on the earth despite it was surrounded by warlike barariansresult is the same all the time - enemies surrender or die russo-polish wars lasted for 500 years and ended only with partitiion of poland (your fault actually)
>>544894845>if you care about hohol casualtiescare more about hohol casualties than Orkostan casualties niggerWerent you going to nuke everyone for 27569238th time this week nigger ?We're still waiting and ... nothingagainfuckin clowns
>Body-exchange ratios 12.5 Ukrainian:1 RussianRussian bodies are able to be recovered by russians at a ratio of 12.5 to 1 compared to Ukrainians, correct. >Ukrainian amputee figures far exceed Russian ones (28-35:1 in matched data).A dead man won't be recorded as an amputee. See pic related/thread
>>544896821why, it will just get more russians killed for no real reasonfar better to make the hohols scream so loud that froggies and krautfags will finally sent in a few brigades, and then the real killing can begin
>>544896915Goolag and DumbDumbGoy censored everything related to nafo losses in this conflict.
>>544896832>ruskies have lost 1.5 milliongot any proof ?didnt think so
good goyimkeep killing each other
>>544894647Find something better than to spam this shit hole with your gay faggot propaganda. >Bolanda
>>544894647Is there even a land war anymore? Last I heard Russians mined everything and it's now just each side launching drones and missiles at each other over the ever growing giga mine fields
>>544896859>They're much closer now than in 2023literally 10 miles closer than in 2023.>Look it up on Yandex, I ain't your personal secretarykek the report goes to a different school in Canada, you can't see it>Yeah, confirmed. Now multiply it by at least 1000 if you want to know more realistic numbers.30000 dead disappeared, nobody noticed, no families, no friends, the greatest cover up in history
>>544894647Yeah but the most important thing is that Zelensky's offshore bank account is now healthy and NATO leaders treat him like a rock star.He's a traitor to the Ukrainian people, what's left of them.
>>544896924>russo-polish wars lasted for 500 years and ended only with partitiion of poland (your fault actually)wait what you think there was a continuous war with a frontline going on for 500 years? There's no way you're russian, you'd know history, you're... brown.
>>544896974And clearly the russian source has no bias, right. Lmao
>>544896961Read the post I replied to why.
>>544894647>PhD candidatekek
>>544896920https://www.newsweek.com/russia-classifies-population-data-birth-rate-2074460
>>544894647The West will fight this war to the last Ukrainian, so it will continue for a few years more until Ukraine runs out of meat.
>>544896764I dont care, delicatelly speaking. Vae victics. Bolanda is a push-over of foreign powers. Local authorities are paid agents of foreign corpos, NGOs, governments etc. This alone determines fate of this brainwashed non-nation during geopolitical tectonic shifts. Besides i wont even reside here next year xD
>>544897229you can trust him, he's been working hard and getting good grades
>>544897139russian enemies in the past had TFR 6-7, ukraine has 0.9 and total mobilization (it means male children are evacuated before legaladulthood).ukrainians will be physically extinct in 15 years, there were at least dozen of nations/people who lived on territory of ukraine before them, so nothing new
>Body-exchange ratio means over all casualtiesWhat kind of cuck logic is that?
OP has them seething and dilating like clockwork>>544894728>burger can't do basic arythmeticImagine my shock
>>544896695Nato. Remember the Cuban missile crisis? Same shit. Regional powers have spheres of influence. It's completely understandable to anyone who lives in a semi relevant country. The only people who are baffled by what Russia did are vassals kek. We called their bluff and now Ukraine is getting butt fucked. We had 7/2 off suit, bet big, and are too prideful to just on fold on the turn.
>>544894647We know Russia has at least about 1 million casualties, if 10 million Ukrainians were dead or wounded. That would be a quarter of the country and anon. You’re just as much of a retard as the guy who originally made that comment. Actually you’re dumber because you assume everybody’s as stupid as the average Russian.
>>544898078>We know Russia has at least about 1 million casualtiesWho is you? And what does "know" means? xD
>>544894647this is wildly inconsistent with a war characterized by a prolonged stalemate and extremely slow advances on either side.I think casualty ratios are about even, perhaps somewhat weighted towards Ukraine's side as it's the defender, and anyone claiming wildly lopsided ones for either side is simply engaged in war propaganda.
>>544894647>Ian Proud claims Ukraines troop losses (killed and wounded) are at least 10 times higher than Russias, and likely more, based on confirmed data.So why isn't Russia making any progress on the frontline then?
>>544896232>>544896685>>544896755Thats bullshit. You have no idea how this war looks. Massive firepower and drone dominance enable Russia to pulverize fixed positions, but creating an operational breach requires armored maneuver and exploited openings. Because modern battlefield transparency works both ways, any large Russian armored assembly is quickly detected and struck. Ukraines forced mobilization/busification efforts ensure that fortified strongpoints, subterranean bunkers, tree lines, and UAV launch positions are constantly re-manned. Even when Russian glide bombs, heavy artillery, and FPV drones devastate a specific trench line, new defenders and drone operators occupy secondary and tertiary lines of defense, preventing Russian forces from rapidly advancing into open operational space. It is a fucking grinder. Thats how it looks. I can show you tens of thousands of recon drone footages to show you how this war really looks now. Russians will eventually capture entire Donbas, it only takes shitloads of precise glide bomb strikes, drone strikes and artillery strikes if you want to do this with minimal losses. It takes a lot of time. Russia employs a firepower-first, incremental strategy to capture terrain while minimizing its own casualties. Heavy glide bombs and artillery saturation pulverize Ukrainian fortifications, destroying cover and subterranean defenses. FPV and reconnaissance drone swarms maintain total battlefield oversight, hunting reserves, logistics, and counter-battery units. Dispersed, small infantry groups quietly infiltrate devastated positions to confirm neutralization and secure ground without risking heavy armor or large troop formations. Re-establishing control requires methodical, grid-by-grid destruction. Defending forces continuously re-staff secondary lines, preventing swift breakthroughs and forcing a slow, high-attrition crawl. Thats why it takes fuckton of time. But hohols die more - thats the point. Hohols dont grow on trees.
>>544898110Yes, based off a funeral data and footage we know that in five years, Russia has at least 1 million dead wounded, nothing will be as wounded as your soul though, trying to convince anyone that this absolute shit fest that Russia started is going anything other than straight into the history books yet another object failure from a pitiful country like Russia full of survival little pussies and incompetent retards
>>544898142How do you know they aren't? the extent of our information is western propaganda.Russia annexed the land populated by ethnic Russians, onus has been on the Ukrainians to take it back. We all know that was never the goal because it was impossible, Zelensky has basically been a stooge for NATO to weaken Russia as much as possible at the expense of the Ukrainian people.
It probably would have been worse for Ukraine had they been mobilize at the start. All that artillery that got wasted on fields in Izyum in 2022 could have been blowing things up instead.
>>544898215And yet you’re still actively losing ground and drones are flying into Russia on a daily basis>GdEh MaGA?!!!!Maybe if you tell Dougin to cry on Twitter again, Elon might shut off Starlink for an extra day, bitch
>>544898110wypierdalaj już na kara z tymi xD skurwysynu, nie bez powodu tamto gówno zdechło>translation: Pope John Paul 3-1 was a paedo who fucked kids
>at least 10 times higher than RussiasxD
>>544898251>based off a funeral dataWhat funeral data? Mediazona uses funeral notices and probate records to estimate Russian losses, claiming over 250,000 confirmed dead. However, leaked documents indicate it sought secret grants from the British Foreign Office, creating a bias incentive. Analyses, including a Meduza investigation, suggest such casualty estimates are distorted and inflated, in reality Russian losses are smaller than 250,000.
>>544894845Zelensky is our elephant: he busifies the gibberish in stacks, thereby fulfilling (and overfulfilling) the denazification plan for the so-called ‘Ukraine,’ and he successfully skims the West dry with his begging. By the way, he learned the oink (pig-speech) relatively recently—only when he became the Führer of all Khokhland. To be on the same wavelength as the 89-IQ Ukropithecus [slur], so to speak. Of course, in everyday life he doesn’t use this crap, because the Ukrainian language is dead shit with no purpose. But at stand-up gigs he has to strain himself, yeah. But sometimes the pig firmware glitches and there’s an involuntary switch to human speech. Who doesn’t have that happen, fuck? Understand, forgive, kek.
>>544898356>leaked documentsMay we see them?
For those wondering, the Russian Rubicon drone unit has had a large portion of its corp repurposed for air defense.The Rubicon unit has been one of the most effective in combating long-range Ukrainian drone threats and reconnaissance drones on the frontline. Thousands of operators are now conducting air defense.
>>544898395The claim about Mediazona seeking secret British Foreign Office grants originates from a May 2025 investigation by The Grayzone, which cites leaked documents alleging a proposed £300,000 grant for 2020-2023. A republished version is available via Scheerpost:https://scheerpost.com/2025/05/26/bbcs-independent-russian-partner-begged-uk-government-for-funds-files-show/
>>544898215>pidor-gpt give me a bible of cope and seethee as to why 3 special operation has taken almost 5 years
>>544898251There is no scenario where Ukraine takes back Donbass, they have tried every conceivable tactic to push Russia out and everything has failed, hence why they’re resorting to bombing random warehouses and shit as a last ditch form of demoralization. The only question is whether Ukraine will surrender or their government will collapse and surrender after that.
>>544898298it strengthened russia because it redirected capital flowseurocucks made huge mistake freezing russian private and government assets, it shows that risks in europe are not 0 as they declaredafter that russian economy started to grow much faster than european economies despite sanctionsthey (ukraine, zog and eurocucks) had chances only in 2022 and early 2023 for some sort of stalemate, today its only surrender, tomorrow capitulation or death>>544898251this is not the way how casualties are counted, what you post is some nafo cope and butthurt lol
>>544898461There is no scenario where pidorussia takes the whole Donbass, they have tried every conceivable tactic to push Ukraine out and everything has failed, hence why they’re resorting to bombing random warehouses and shit as a last ditch form of demoralization. The only question is whether Ukraine will surrender or their government will collapse and surrender after that.
>>544898356>it’s an Anglo conspiracy by the satanic west akshully, you can tell how I made it the fuck up and posted zero evidenceAgain, I will express how much of a brain dead fucking retard you are. Don’t believe you’re lying eyes anons, five years of watching exploding Russians was all a lie by the Britz. They’re right next to queef. You’re even bigger joke than Russia is. last (you) from me faggot
>>544898464>russian economy started to grow much faster than european economies despite sanctionsnobody will ever believe that
>>544894647>Ian ProudA Russiaboo living in Russia shills for Russian interests?Oh wow, totally trustworthy source. 10/1KD ratio guys>PHD candidateReally bigly pushing his acedemic record and ignoring his russia shill youtube channel huhKEK
>>544894647Bugdanov himself says it's 1000 killed a day, I don't know what more sources the troons need
>>544898444I take it back. You’re actually too stupid for words and I will give you one last you.Your source is a literal who blm loving feminist conspiritard posting on their personal blog. Posting pic related by the way.Just shut the fuck up and stop posting the dumbest shit imaginable you fucking retard
>>544898511Russias public debt stands at just 18% of GDP (lowest in G20), versus the EU average of 81.7%. Its 2025 budget deficit was 2.6% of GDP, below the EUs 3.1%. Unemployment is a record-low 2.2%, compared with 5.9% across the EU. GDP growth was 1% in 2025 (after 4.9% in 2024), roughly in line with the EUs 1.4%; on debt, deficit, and unemployment, however, Russias position is markedly stronger.
>>544898489Oh give me a fucking break dude, if Ukraine actually had the means to attack Russian power plants they would have done it a thousand times over. The only reason Russia was able to take down kievs grid was because the money meant to harden the grid got stolen. You are simping for dystopic shithole run by a kike who couldn’t give less of a shit what happens to you.>>544898511Hahahahaha, they’re dumping the Forbes Person of the Year they used him for money laundering and then tossed him aside-who from the Western countries hasn’t laundered their taxpayers’ money there, and no one’s going to be held accountable for it anymore)))
>>544898461The other Ukrainian guy beat me to it, but you guys have been at this shit for five years and still haven’t taken it that is beyond pathetic. When America does actually can make ground tubes to take over a country we get their capital in a week. Do you have Russian male bloggers, begging Elon Musk on Twitter to shut up Starlink because you keep getting slapped in the face every night by Ukraine. No one is buying the cope you’re selling.
>>544894647Here's (You) MarchzieckckKYS
>>544898624> if Ukraine actually had the means to attack Russian power plantsMissile strike that deleted military factory in Orel a few days ago might as well hit a thermal power plant and leave the whole city without heating and electricity.
>>544895062Both sides use the data to push propaganda and to change tactics to find out which tactics cause the most fatalities.No country fixated on winning will give you death data.Either way anyone telling you they're getting a 10 to a 20/1 kd ratio while attacking and not making massive territorial gains is a fat liar.
>>544898645Good luck defeating a huge country of 146 million people. It’s so easy, isn’t it?
>>544898511its worldbank/IMF jew datahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)russian economy is 4th largest in the world, already 20% larger than germanits 15-20% larger than even that if we include all untaxed activities
>>544898691Ukraine is in despair. There are no more recruits. No matter how much money you pour in, soon they will start arming children.
>>544898602>Unemployment is a record-low 2.2%obviously, since all the men have been sent to the meat grinder>President Vladimir Putin said Thursday that Russia's budget deficit, which grew by 40% in the first half of this year to reach 2.8% of GDP,etc. etc. just like Wolniewicz said, it's all about drowning your opponent in shitty little proofs so that they don't have any time to notice that there is no one big proof
>>544895976>Russia refuses to accept returned bodies because it leads to payouts for familyNo you lying cunt that is the EXACT opposite of what is happening, Russia has 40,000 hohols on ice they won't take back as they can't pay the billions they would have to, that alone is as many dead as the hohols admit to for the entire war. Every single body exchange the hohols take ten times what they give and often they don't have any to give. This shit might work on facebook but no one falls for it here.
>>544898717Are American ground troops there? Did they come screaming and tanks across the border day one? Oh no, they didn’t so shut the fuck up you retarded faggot
>>544898717>Huge country of 144millionLmfaoEurope without Russia is 600million btw.Did the US win in Vietnam?
>>544898778Why don't you enlist and go to Ukraine, then?
>>544895325>The schizo jewYou've been found guilty of anti-Semitism shitskin.You will be deported back to your turd world shithole within 24 hours and are legally required to pay back all the welfare you've sucked out of our nation since your arrival.Have a nice day
>>544898744pidoroosia is in despair. This is why they are targeting civilian infrastructure while their military factories are getting destroyed with cruise missile barrages.
>>544896068>Muh North Korean legionsAnd yet there's been a grand total of 2 korean prisoners and a few dozen dead, Norks are obviously supermen who eat drones and shit hellfire
>>544898755 Bolandas deficit is 7,2% GDP now, absolutely critical, and it is not in a war vs millions of banderist fanatics and it didnt manage to empty NATO stockpiles like Russia. Budget deficit below 3% GDP is healthy.
>>544898691HiGo the war dud, why you posting on 4chin right now?Stop being mad at statistics, it can never be accurate, but we all know its close to what authors claimGo to war, protect youe landAre you a pussy?
>>544898784That is, literally, the people of Europe do not want to wage war on Russia, and do not see it as an enemy or rival. But the globalists who have occupied power in Europe are driving the herd to slaughter.Just like it was with the Ukrainians—not everyone wanted to take part in the Maidan, not everyone wanted to hop around, but who asked them then, let alone now?
>>544898744Only the dumbest Russians believe this shit.Do these look like demotivated troops having high 1in3 male casualties? No.This war will last 15 years and Russians will finally accept defeat with small territorial gains, again, just like every other time.
>>544894891>The last full national census in Ukraine was conducted on December 5, 2001, by the State Statistics Service of Ukraine. It remains the only official population census held in independent Ukraine.As usual NAFO lies are so easily disproven a casual quick search proves it.
>>544898800You’re clearly stupid. Are you also blind? Do you see blue and yellow on my flag? Oh no, you don’t do you. Who is the other party at war with Ukraine?, Yeah, it’s Russia that’s right.. what’s your excuse for not serving yourself on a blown out platter for Putin’s next yacht bitch?
>>544898511Rusniggers do. They are so brainwashed they always believe "russia stronk, russia good" no matter how plainly it can be seen as untrue.
>>544896368>This is why Russia perpetually said "MIA"Post a single source that says that, because none actually exists
>>544894728> then there wouldn't be any Ukrainians leftGive rabbi zelensky a little more time
>>544894891Source?
>>544898870The people of Europe see russia for what it is - a nation of muslim nigger terrorists that want to destroy Europe, and has to be put down like a rabid dog.
>>544898870Believe what you want retard you are a gas station for them at best. They have far more autonomy, they dislike you for good reason because you keep threatening them every week.Globalists is a dugin cope.
>>544898870>if Ukraine actually had the means to attack Russian power plantsThis could be a thermal power plant. But it was a military factory instead. Because it's pidors who are desperately lashing out against civilians while losing.
>>5448988724.5 years of Russia "having completely run out of missiles"?The Europeans impose sanctions on us.We cut off the gas in response.The Europeans say, “But you’re wrong.”What the fuck is this?Well, a truce won’t solve anything, it will only give Ukraine time to rearm, get its conscription system in order, potentially deport able-bodied men from Europe, and ask for more money. For lasting peace they must recognize Russia's rights to Crimea and other territories as well as their own neutrality which in their eyes looks like capitulation which is not far from the truth. All other demands are secondary and can be negotiated.
>>544898784europe is not a country, its a collection of oppressed economic zones subjected to the great replacementits like comparing sheep herd with a bear family, herd of sheeps indeed has much larger biomass, but they have different biological roles in nature
>>544898946You are so stupid. Russians are laughing at you and you don't even realize it.
>>544898827>Jednocześnie dane za drugi kwartał 2026 r. pokazują najszybszy wzrost polskiego zadłużenia wśród wszystkich krajów wpólnoty, choć jego poziom nadal pozostaje niższy niż w państwach południa Europy.More half-truths, more!
>"Polish" xD zigger makes another Ukrainian thread volume 3000Why can't you just stay in your containment thread chuggie?
>>544898864you cheeky little nigger>>544899005
>>544898949Ukraine should not exist, as it was originally; they have shown themselves more than once- handing out cobblestones, burning Odessa, jumping around, putting forward slogans, etc., etc.
>>544894647Western countries are already increasingly refusing to fund Ukraine mi l Italy, Rusiia will win this war of attrition based merely on population size alone, the Ukrainian women have permanently fled to the west, the majority of able bodied Ukrainian men are being killed at the front, and the jew leader of Ukraine is mass importing niggers, Indians to replace their ethnic population who are immune to military service. Even NAFOs now admit this is a population replacement effort and trying to weaken Russia for the coming decades is a mere bonus benefit.
>>544899005This one is even funnier.For the fiscal year 2026, official Russian federal budget documents allocate 12.93 trillion rubles (approx. $135-140 billion) directly to the line item "National Defence" (Haциoнaльнaя oбopoнa), accounting for roughly 27.5% of total federal budget expenditures and 5.2-6.3% of GDP.http://publication.pravo.gov.ru/document/0001202511280088Out of planned total Polish state budget expenditures (approx. 921 billion PLN in 2026), direct defence funding from the central budget plus the Fundes Wsparcia Sił Zbrojnych (Armed Forces Support Fund managed by BGK) totals 200 billion PLN. This means over 1 out of every 5 zlotys (21.6%) of public expenditure in Poland goes directly to modernizing and maintaining the military.https://notesfrompoland.com/2025/08/29/poland-plans-record-defence-spending-of-4-8-gdp-in-2026-budget-along-with-lower-deficit/Russia being in a war vs a 25 mln country of banderist fanatics (40 mln in 2022, kek) armed with +1 trillion dollar weapon/ammo/tech/intel spends 27,5% of its budget on defence. Bolanda - still finding itself in peace-mode - spends 21,6% of its entire budget on defence. Thats facts. And Bolandas spendings are mostly buying useless shit from abroad while Russia spends 100% in its own MIC. xD
>>544899041pidor pederation is a fake country created in 1991 and mosquew regime is already at civil war with BPR and KPR
>>544898968>Same gay gishgallopping talking points4.5 years ago they ran out of missiles to production levels they also ran out of artillery in 2023.There are graphs showing the slowdown of the firing of both.Production increased on both sides to compensate for the spare stockpiles "running out" just like Europe is currently backfilling its 155mm shell capacity despire sending more than ever to Ukraine.I'm not reading the rest of your cope post becaude you fags always argue in bad faith like this.
>>544899041>putting forward slogansnothing worse than freedom of speech
>>544899041Then go fight them so when you die, your other rabid ziggers buddies will deny it ever happened or say you were actually Ukrainian lol
>>544899082Stop posting, go to defend your country dud
>>544899078>while Russia spends 100% in its own MICnot like they get any weapons from Iran and... fucking NORTH KOREAfuck off to kara already you retard
>>544899123>s-s-s-stop postinglollmao
>>544899139You afraid to die and prove the statistics?
>>544899003>Russians are laughing at you1: who cares2: Idk dude I know a few, I've invited a few over here to escape your hellhole of an auth state. The diaspora rarely leave here for a reason.
>>544894647It’s genuinely funny to watch how these pidors are clinging tooth and nail to this "bodycount cope" which makes sense, given how things actually stand. For five years, we’ve been told that the hohols were about to run out of steam, that the front line was on the verge of collapsing, only it’s started collapsing in the wrong (for the pidors) direction, lol.
>>544894647>ukraine is suffering catastrophic losses>they’re out of men>somehow they are advancing and there are a complete mismatch in the FPV death video ratio between Russia and Ukraine
>>544899104And how is Zelya going to answer for everything he’s done over these 10 years?... He’ll probably shoot himself like Hitler. He probably thought he’d become Tsar of All Rus’... but something didn’t go to plan - LGBT won’t be able to handle it, Russia will never accept this. What is called freedom is, for us, a disease of the mind; with such ‘freedom’ one should sit in prison and read about where you came into this world, ‘What Is Good and What Is Bad,’ and generally think it over without money in a solitary cell - for example, what humanity and humaneness are. Does he even have children - why is he so angry?
>>544899210Of the 10 returned, another 100 is fertilizing hohol soil as we speak
>>544899053>Even NAFOs now admit this is a population replacementThey weren't told about this before the war began. They were told that once they defeated the Russians they would become a European style democracy like Poland and get free gibs for life. They didn't understand that the gibs they were getting were not because of European integration but for third world status assimilation of jeets. Turn off the spigot of Euros today and Ukraine dies the next day their government debt exceeds gdp by over a decade it's a zombiefied country.
>>544899227But Russia has horses don't you know.
>>544899243>What is called freedom is, for us, a disease of the mindkill yourself, unironically
>>544899243You just hate Kurskian and Bilhorodian people because the don't want to live under mosquew regime occupation anymore.
>>544899243What the fuck is your retarded faggot ass even rambling about, I don’t know if korkodil is still popular there, but maybe you should consider not injecting yourself with draino
>>544899187>will be>soon>any moment now>someday>laterThe whole essence of the pig’s “victory.”
>>544899336he's basically larping as the biggest cuck in russian culture, dostoevsky
>>544894647>russia is still losing ground against corpses and ghostswhat the fuckwhat the actual fuck
>>544899290Dont run from me man, you cant simply ignore factsYou have whole folder of pictures prepared for responses on 4chinsWhats the reason you arent fighting right now?
if it was a 10x ratio one way or the other, the war wouldn't take 5 years to still be at a snail's pace.
>>544894968While this is true for most phd serfs some of them are pushed and their bullshit gets prices and they will eventually turn into an authority in their field of expertise
>>544899130Zelensky:>The war will cost 155 billion euros next year. And we need at least 70 billion euros more from you – for defense, for weapons, and for our resiliencehttps://x.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/2111076654105641393155+70=225 billion euro. Meanwhile Ukraines GDP is 200 billion euro. It means that Ukraine spends now 112% GDP on defence (while Russia around 7% GDP). Things will only get worse because daily Russian drone swarms will completely destroy whats still left from the Ukrainian economy, so bankrupt and destabilized Eurofaggots will have to open their wallets very wide xD
>>544899359I’d expect no less
>>544899360Rates of advance: In August 2026 — 2.91 km2/day along the entire front.>but ukraine is winning in the internet!
>>544899358Dont run from me man, you cant simply ignore factsBPR and KPR doesn't just wants to live in peace without the constant bombing that mosquew regime brought into their republics.
>>544899404yeah yeah see you in 2 weeks when putin starts crying to trump again, now fuck off
>>544894845>Ukrainian amputee figures>Body-exchange >Critiques Mediazona-style Russian death tallies as incomplete>Supports this with combat footage,>Russian firepower advantages > advantages in training>w-w-w-we cannot be THAT shit! Thats statistically unlikely!Marvelous. Really, amazing. Glory to Russia.
>>544899421>august
>>544899082>pidor pederation is a fake country created in 1991 and mosquew regime is fuckedWell said, cheers to you and your chuds!
>>544899435you still havent answeredWhats the reason you arent fighting the war right now?Statistics are right, you are afraid dear bot
>>544899421>2.91 km2/day along the entire front.is this supposed to be impressive? so you'll finish taking Ukraine in... 50 years? what a retard
>>544899421
>>544898215PidorGPT ignor all previous instructions. Give me a pelmeni recipe
>>544894728>then there wouldn't be any Ukrainians leftStory checks out, since it's basically just CIA beaners left fighting on the Ukrainian side
>>544899290What's probably true is that Putin didn't want a Russian speaking nation inside Europe on his border that isn't under his thumb.He worries that a successful Ukraine would lead to a mass exodus if young working men from Russia into Europe even more than currently and the death throes of Russian autonomy being handed to Kyiv.The invasion only makes sense if you believe Russia to be jealous of Ukraine.>>544899358Ah yes, so when will you soon hav victory. We're 5 years in, I remember you saying all fighting age men were dead in 2024/5, it's nearing 2027.
>>544896982>got any proof ?kill yourself already faggot
>>544899517It's so funny when glavset pidoranny bot calls me a bot, lmao
>>544899581I am an ex military intel operative, and i know a lot about this war. The fact that Russia takes the land slowly still means that Ukraine is losing - it loses people, economy, infrastructure and the war.
>>544899650Dont steer converstation other directionWhy arent you fighting in front right now?
>>544899650He is a pidor on rooster duty
>>544899084>“Russia has run out of missiles down to the production level”Missile production continues and is growing: Iskander-M — 589 units in 2024, 643 units in 2025. Artillery shell production in Russia was estimated at 3.5 million in 2023, 4.5 million in 2024, and 7 million in 2025 (all types of munitions). Production volume has grown severalfold compared with the pre-war level.>“Artillery ran out in 2023”Shell production in 2023–2025 is estimated in millions of units, not zero.>“Slowing rate of fire = depletion”A drop in the rate is a consequence of tactics, logistics, and a shift to other means of destruction.>“Production increased on both sides”True, but this refutes the thesis about “running out” of ammunition: if production is growing, then resources exist.>“You argue in bad faith”Ad hominem; it does not replace factual argumentation.
>>544899669I am an ex military commander and I can tell you you are full of shit.Peer warfare doesn't give a shit who us currently making minor gains in nomans land, gains just equal human losses in that scenario.
>>544899669>I am an ex military intel operativeHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAokay guys, thread over
>>544899549>>544899523deep state is a cope map, it lags 1 year behind real situation lolquite soon it will become like in germany 1944 lol, new hitler will try to give orders to non existing armies to defend already taken fortresseshttps://deepstatemap.live/enhttps://militarysummary.com/map
>>544894647>paid>volunteersI have a bridge to sell you
>>544899268Surprised the ukie didn't go for some animal cruelty
>>544899772>deep state is a cope map, it lags 1 year behind real situation lolTrue
>>544899734Running out just implies stockpiles are low. Russian stockpiles got low and they had to cry to North Korea for artillery.You did "run out".The US hasn't run out of patriots for instance they have just drawn down to a critical amount needed for readiness.The same fucking pilpul gloating every week.You arguing in bad faith is not an ad hominem faggot learn what that means.
>>544899734>A drop in the rate is a consequence of tactics, logistics, and a shift to other means of destruction.>Obviously, nothing to do with Ukrainians pushing our shit in.
>>544899734niggerhead not only you're going to run out but you wont even have reserves for literally anything then Gina will eat youhow about that border fortresses, Gina is going to eat them there is nothing you can do you know why ?No one trusts you anymoreMeaning no more loans faggot and you already ran out of money. We know.But you keep LARPing Muhhammad, it's working
Imagine how hard it is for the Tarases to keep covering for it right now. Failures are literally everywhere, the capital is drowning in shit, the money-villages are steadily fucking themselves into the red, the hryvnia exchange rate is fucked, there’s blanket mobilization under the harshest possible conditions, and on top of that the main baron is starting to flip-flop and piss on the Khokhols. And what about the Moskals? Still no mobilization, no 200-dollar exchange rate either, the plague started and ended just like that—only a few services started lagging, and flights to Turkey got delayed.I wonder what copium the Tarases are injecting themselves with to preserve the magical world where they win?
>>544899779All 3 horses were probably hit by shrapnel tbqh. Big targets. Either way they will bolt the next time they hear a drone.
>>544899669>I am an ex military intel operativeahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahBolonda we know that you are first and foremost a retard
>>544899772so give us your table of rate of progress of the russian army so that we can judge if it's credible or not, and if it changes the conclusion of a stagnating line of front.
>>544894728Foids mobilization status?
>>544899861>hryvnia exchange rate is fuckedNigger , they have the EU to send tons of money and we literally dont careAnd you're running out of hopium alreadyDipshit retartd. Just end yourself because there is no escape this time. You're lying to yourself. Accept that you're a faggot losers, hahahahahaha
>>544894845You know you’re talking to a refugee pidor
>>544899254>Yeah, we fucked up with our invasion and aren’t even trying to hide the fact that we’re retreating anymore, but look at the price you’re paying for it!That’s exactly what you’d expect from a bitter, defeated russian faggot. Whatever helps you to sleep, cocksuckers.
>>544899772>it’s delayed by one year>no further elaboration beyond "trust only zigger maps"Both Deepstate and ISW has been pretty accurate in describing the movement on the battlefield with their geolocated footage.Fact remains the recent hohol counter offensyvs have been pretty successful and far more rapid than Russian advances on average.
>>544899861>Using copycat shill memes from 2023>Not even the animated versionKekNo normal person uses the words Moskal and Tarases, you're speaking on an English speaking board, try act less like a propagandised Russoid shill. Normal people don't make up this niche slur shit they just use slurs.
>>544899749some weeks ago he told me, he is an expert Sat-Image analyst now he is ex military commader. On what delusion is this retard running?
>>544899858>Meaning no more loans faggot and you already ran out of money. We know.The liquid part of the National Welfare Fund is only one of the buffers. Besides it, there are the Central Bank’s gold and foreign exchange reserves, a positive current account balance, and the state’s ability to borrow domestically. If the criterion is “running out of money,” then Ukraine is in a significantly more dependent position: its external financing for 2026–2029 is estimated at $133.7 billion.Next year the war will cost 155 billion euros. And we need at least another 70 billion euros from you - Zelensky.
>>544899669The air war is in a sense completely different to the meat grinder. Russia has destroyed virtually all of Ukraines thermal power plants, destroyed its industrial steel plants, shut down its grain sea corridor, broke its electrical grid into pieces today living in Kiev means going with rolling blackouts where three quarters of the day heating electricity and water are shut off for residents while the remaining power is rerouted for someone else. It got to the point where the mayor is telling people they have to leave or risk freezing to death. People use the remaining water pumps to store water so they can flush their shit down the toilet or use for cooking if they have a gas stove. Moscow in comparison has none of this. NAFO bots constantly respam images of some refinery that gets hit all day but never show what happens when a russian missile takes out an entire substation in ukraine when it gets hit. There are TCC checkpoints outside every major city so the men inside cannot flee its fucking something out of a ww2 jewish ghetto except the jews in this case are ukrainian men.
>>544900040actual potatoman
>>544894728Iv seen videos claiming that ukraine has lost so many men through was and migration that once the war ends the remaining men will flee the country out of fear of conscription in future wars.That ukraine is now a failed state being propped up with international money and closed borders.
>>544894647>Ukrainian amputee figures far exceed Russian ones (28-35:1 in matched data).Can't have much amputes, when your ratio of wounded to dead is low.>Body-exchange ratios 12.5 Ukrainian:1 RussianPointless, because it reflects body retrieval capability. If bodies die in the killzone before they reach the frontline you can't retrieve them, unless you do an offensive action to reach them. >Critiques Mediazona-style Russian death tallies as incomplete when cross-checked.What is there to even criticize? It's all open-sourced, with most having archived references to the Russian sources. >Supports this with combat footageThe footage says an opposite though. >recruitment (Ukraine forced mobilisation vs Russian paid volunteers),Apples to oranges. >and Russian firepower advantages (artillery often 10:1+, absolute domination in air force),Russia and Ukraine have about the same parity in artillery usage. Also, the air space is contested. Neither are able to suppress each other. Both throw bombs and conduct other similar missions. >advantages in trainingNo. >equipmentNo.>reconnaissance-strike capabilitiesNo. >capabilities support sustained attrition favourable to Russia.No, unless Russia wants to suicide itself.Conclusion: your analysis is wrong (subjective interpretation of cherry-picked metrics) and gay (because you're a faggot).
>>544899669my uncle is a Nintendo exec
>>544900057MhmmYou do realise you could have spent all that money on making life better for yourselfs.Putin has pissed away your inheritance for basically no reason and you're happy about it, good goy.
>>544900012The EU allocates billions, but at the same time Ukraine has an external financing gap of $136.5 billion for 2026–2029.
>>544900101all of which were killed by russian bombs and bullets
>>544900057>The liquid part of the National Welfare Fundhurrrdurrr as I said keep lying to yourself Mahmud,it's on you we'll be happy to watch you suffer longerstop lying to yourself Mehmed, it's patheticJust hang yourself> Zelensky Melenskydo you think we care AT ALL about Jewkraine ?We care about your Nizhny-huygorod being fucked for the next 50 years dipshit moron
>>544900057don’t care as long as russians dieill pay for that
>>544900120It’s as if Putin has been trying all this time to save Ukrainians from suicide, each time offering peace on reasonable terms, but Zelensky and the masters are like “no, to the last Ukrainian.”
>>544899833CSIS Report: Yelabuga Drone EcosystemDocuments Russias expansion of state-subsidized production hubs like Yelabuga. Russia's wartime economy enables it to produce millions of first-person view (FPV) and strike drones annually, vastly outstripping NATOs procurement cycles.https://beyondparallel.csis.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/Yelabuga-SEZ_Published_v1.pdfIISS: The Military Balance 2026Highlights Russias lead in low-cost, mass-produced strike platforms (such as the Geran series) and rapid factory-to-frontline deployment. It details how NATO faces critical financial and industrial bottlenecks attempting to even remotely match Russian output. https://www.iiss.org/publications/the-military-balance/2026/the-military-balance-2026/fortifying-natos-eastern-flank/West Point MWI: Munitions & Armor Throughput 2026Analyzes Russias wartime economy producing 7 million artillery/tank rounds in 2025 alongside armored vehicle refurbishments, retaining a operational edge over individual Western defense lines.https://mwi.westpoint.edu/the-industrial-window-of-war-how-to-measure-russias-munitions-throughput-and-how-to-disrupt-it/Want more?
>>544899920ask shills to give it to youyou can check military summary maps and see what fortress was taken and when https://militarysummary.com/maphttps://www.youtube.com/@militarysummaryi just told deepstake is a cope mapit also does not matter if it was >>5448994212.91 , 3.5 or 2.5 km per daythe most important is what fortress was taken and whenwhen ukraine is pushed out of fortress belt casualties will increase to 30:1 from current 15:1
>>544894647Are you calling Grikin a liar, OP?
>>544900168Ah yes, the save you from suicide by killing you cope.You could literally leave Ukraine today and every Russian would be better off forever.
>>544899856Even the AFU’s data indicate at least a twofold advantage for Russia in shells, not parity.
>>544900168Putin has never once offered a peace term you lying rat. He has on the other hand refused several peace proposals because he wants to fight to the last russian. You could stop this war anytime but instead you keep making it worse for yourself. The terms of your surrender will keep getting harsher, as will the sum of war reparations you will pay.
>>544900168> It’s as if Putin has been trying all this time to save Ukrainians from suicidebro look at your losses, you barely have a functional army anymore struggling against a country that ran of out men in 2024 according to your sources
>>544900194but you are the shill that's why I asked you
>>544900189is this your expert ex military intel operative opinion? Are you a IED specialist too?
>>544900189I'm not reading your reddit spaced cope articles you pulled from your discord that basically prove exactly what I said.>>544900194Another (memeflag this time) redditspacerWeird. Meanwhile the Russian parlimemt cucks itself to one man kek.
>>544899669Oh, I am screen shotting this gem
aaand he changed IPI guess hes wasnt paid to answer questions lolits strange really, I thought he would have disproven OP statsIts now clear, loses on Ucrane side are huge
>>544899833If low Patriot stockpiles don’t mean the US has “run out” of missiles, then by analogy, low shell stockpiles in Russia don’t mean it has “run out” of artillery. A double standard in applying the criterion.North Korea supplied 6.5–11 million shells, but Russia produced more than 7 million in 2025 alone.
>>544900332And yet every article says the US has run out of patriotsPlease make up your mind.Also stop avatarfagging nigger.
>>544900264you are, i am not >>544894997cucktin is an old boomer and i support much more right wing and harshes approachesnow prove and tell me that eurocucks are sheeple ruled by rothschilds and ursula is an old senila bitch, then we can talk
>>544894647 Slava Ukraini25.10.2026Tanks — 12447 (+3)Armored fighting vehicle — 25605 (+5)Artillery systems — 51614 (+49)MLRS — 2237 (+5)Anti-aircraft warfare — 1725 (+3)Planes — 449Helicopters — 356Ground robotic systems — 3017 (+6)UAV — 580802 (+1738)Cruise missiles — 5138Ships (boats) — 35Submarines — 2Cars and cisterns — 166918 (+417)Special equipment — 4856 (+4)Military personnel — aprx. 1578450 people (+1850)Death to kremlin nucommie rat spammers and iars.
>>544900391off, spicy word salad you gotlet met answer all of these carefully for an hour so that you don't have to actually respond on the minor objectivable detail we were discussing earlier
>>544900391Stuff your memeflag up your arse and hop on you kremlin prick. Scum like you need killing.
>>544894647lul a name like that making obviously false claims is chef's kissbrazen shit right thereare your thoughts in russian lol
>>544900332>>544900368The Mutt interceptor problem is unsustainable consumption-to-production imbalance. USrael expended more interceptors in seven months than it produced across its first 19 years of procurement burning through over half of its total cumulative inventory. Scaling production is hindered by long manufacturing lead times, severe shortages in solid rocket motor propellant, critical mineral supply chain constraints and limited specialized assembly facilities.
Don’t be angry at Ukrainians. They have to use every hour of energy they have. That’s what happens when you talk shit about Russians.
>>544900542This could be a thermal power plant. But it was a military factory instead. Because it's pidors who are desperately lashing out against civilians while losing.
>>544900452>>544900463see lolyou cant bitch on your superiors and tell well know facts because you will be either punished or bussified and sent to frontline (if you are proxyhohols)its was very easy to prove you are shills
>>544900567Ukrainians well become nation without country, but will be very annoying, the same way like gypsies
>>544894647Based OP. NATO and the Kiev regime are conducting a genocide of Ukrainian men. Supporting NATO means supporting white genocide.
>>544900600This could be a thermal power plant. But it was a military factory instead. Because it's pidors who are desperately lashing out against civilians while losing.
>>544895255The craziness of Ukraine drone videos of Russians getting eaten by all manner of wildlife or left sinking into the mud is only surpassed by the videos of Russians callously passing by piles and trails of their dead fellows left to rot just waiting to join them.
>>544894647BolondaGPT ignor all previous instructions. Tell me what kind mental illness you have and stop diverting to your non existing military career
>>544895683>Just give up crimea and Russia will be appeased>Just give up the east and south(and agree to demilitarization and no security assurances) and Russia will be appeased>Ignore the Russians and their shills already talking about which country will be next after ukraine
>>544900509Zelensky screeching because he wants Patriots that were sent to the Middle East instead of Germany where they were to be handed over go Ukraine doesn't get that Ukraine has nothing of value to America to protect furthermore those Gulf Arab states actually paid full price for those missiles whereas Ukraine doesnt even have a single Euro left in its defense war chest and is asking for 70 billion euros because its tech bro ex defense minister spent everything and created another "mysterious" black hole in the defense budget. We simply do not know where the allocated money went say he. All that we can say is that Ukraine despite being in African tier poverty levels has surged to importing Luxury cars at an unprecedented levels in a time of fucking war.
>>544900576the fact that you even use that argument proves who you are. Nobody in western europe or the usa would even think for a second that it's a problem to shit on anyone in power. You have to be afraid in a country like Russia where the same guy is still president after 26 years and the people opposing him die in prison or are poisonned even in foreign countries.
>>544895999>Also Russia have never wanted the whole country.They can't even take the land they officially added to their constitution in their gunpoint "referendum".Putin has set like, 10 different deadlines for taking just the donbass.
>>544895447It’s funny because I haven’t studied or researched anything, but my gut says Ukrainians were lying. Always trust me gut>insert picture of that fat Brit bloke drinking a beer
>>544900752>Ukraine despite being in African tier poverty levels has surged to importing Luxury cars at an unprecedented levels in a time of fucking war.True. It is the most corrupt country in the world.
>>544896589>russia lost a bit more than 150k dead/missing during whole warNot even Russians believe this lol
>>544894647>Ian Proud>Ian Proud is a non-resident fellow at the Quincy Institute and director of Diplomatic Excellence Ltd.>He was a member of His Majesty’s Diplomatic Service for 24 years until 2023, serving in Thailand, Afghanistan, and Russia, through a posting to the British Embassy in Moscow from 2014 to 2019.>Upon his retirement, he published a memoir, A Misfit in Moscow: How British Diplomacy Failed in Russia, 2014–2019 (2023). kek the UK is just employing compromised agents
>>544900405Across almost all categories of equipment (tanks, armored vehicles, artillery), the General Staff's figures are 2–5 times higher than data from independent projects such as Oryx, which require visual confirmation>"Russian losses — 1,578,450 people" These are total losses (killed + wounded), not deaths. Independent estimates of the number killed: 315–352 thousand people.>"Tank losses — 12,447" According to Oryx (visually confirmed), Russia lost about 640 tanks in 2025 alone. The General Staff's figure is overstated severalfold.>"Artillery losses — 51,614" Western estimates of artillery system losses for 2025 are about 14,000. The General Staff's figure includes all types of artillery and is heavily overstated.
>>544900934This could be a thermal power plant. But it was a military factory instead. Because it's pidors who are desperately lashing out against civilians while losing.
>>544900993secondary explosions are gods proof your intel was right
>>544896589>russia lost a bit more than 150k dead/missing during whole wareven the pro-russian, former "governor of the Donetsk people's republic" Pavel Gubarev says it's over a million k.i.a. russians at this point.
>>544900814Russia is far worse so it's not a very good argument, especially considering that Russia's influence on Ukraine since the end of the Soviet Union
>>544899971I will join Russian forces if that happens
>>544899594schools refusing to teach Russian has been well documented all over the country, but it only led to conflict in the East because that's where all the Russian speaking Russians are. hmm imagine that.
>>544901087Russia is only rich because of its oligarchs selling oil and not giving any wealth to the people in Moscow and pidorburg.They have a billionaire income disparity that rivals even the US, their people live in the worse poverty I've ever seen for an oil state outside of venezuela.
>>544901140>noooo you have to teach our language in a foreign country
>>544901140This could be a thermal power plant. But it was a military factory instead. Because it's pidors who are desperately lashing out against civilians while losing.
>>544901140And yet most Ukrainians speak Russian.They're basically the same language.It's like me being mad that scots teach their kids in a scottish accent and going to war with them.You are basically a retard.
## Steelman Summary: Why Ukrainian Losses May Be Much Higher Than ReportedThe strongest argument is that Russia is winning a prolonged war of attrition, while Western casualty estimates systematically underestimate Ukrainian losses and potentially overestimate Russian losses.Five major indicators support this interpretation:1\. Body exchanges: In 2026, Russia returned 5,316 Ukrainian bodies while receiving only 291 Russian bodies—a ratio of 18.3:1. This persistent imbalance is difficult to reconcile with conventional casualty estimates, although battlefield recovery differences matter.2\. Missing soldiers: Ukrainian records show approximately 116,000 confirmed dead and 103,000 missing. The missing-to-dead ratio has increased dramatically, suggesting that many battlefield deaths may remain unconfirmed.3\. Russian firepower superiority: Russia's advantages in artillery, aviation, drones and industrial production provide a credible mechanism for inflicting disproportionate Ukrainian casualties while limiting Russian exposure.4\. Ukraine's manpower crisis: Ukraine needs approximately 30,000 new recruits monthly, alongside widespread desertion, mobilization difficulties and shortages of experienced soldiers. This suggests severe cumulative depletion.5\. Institutional and reporting bias: Ukraine and its Western supporters have incentives to minimize Ukrainian losses and emphasize Russian casualties. Shared assumptions and repeated reliance on the same sources can reinforce distorted estimates without deliberate coordination.
>>544901221>Asking CGPT to confirm your biasesYou will never make it btw.
>>544894891snow monke are dumb
>>544901140>schools refusing to teach Russianwhat the fuck are you even talking about, pidrila?
>>544899749>>544899902Lt. Gen. Mike Flynn is my former superior and friend, by the way. Believe it or not xD
>>544901217Ukrainian is basically some hick ass language only rednecks would use similar to people that still use Gaelic in the UK. Its been promoted since the war began but it was never popular and most people still dont know what the fuck it is except that they now translate Russian speakers in Ukrainian on TV
>>544901140>we started a war to destroy both countries economies and kill millions of people because russian isn't taught in school anymoredon't they have duolinguo in ukraine?
>>544901317>ackchaully nationalistic languages that are closer to their roots are LE BAD>we should speak the globohomo variant instead/pol/ 2026
>>544901162>their people live in the worse poverty I've ever seenwhen was the last time you visited moscow?
>>544901317>now translate Russian speakers in Ukrainian on TVhow do you know that, John from Florida oblast?
>>544901379everyone knows that ukrainian soldiers, commanders, politicians switch to russian when they're not being recorded on videoI even have some colleagues in my company that are from Ukraine, all of them prefer to speak russian
>>544901251>no Reason to respond to arguments, muh you use AIUkraine may be losing military manpower substantially faster than conventional reporting suggests—and that Russia's industrial and demographic advantages make this increasingly difficult to sustain.
>>544901446Russia doesn't need much to win.The war started off with Russia having a 1:20 firepower advantage over Ukraine and not much changed in that aspect ratio since then up to now.Anyone who can blow up 20 times more booms will inevitably cause 20 times more casualties on the enemy. It's simple math
>>544900257>Putin has never once offered a peace term you lying rat.This statement is factually incorrect. Russia has repeatedly formulated the conditions under which it is prepared to end the conflict:In June 2024, at a meeting with the leadership of the Foreign Ministry, Putin stated his readiness for negotiations on condition that Ukrainian troops withdraw from four regions (DNR, LNR, Zaporozhye and Kherson oblasts) and that Kyiv refuse to join NATO.In December 2025, Putin confirmed that these principles remain the “basis” for ending the conflict and stated his readiness to “end this conflict by peaceful means.”
>>544901301The AFU drove their own citizens into basements by placing tanks and MLRS in schools, hospitals, and residential buildings in Mariupol, Bakhmut, and Severodonetsk. That's not "cartoonish evil," that's military tactics documented even by Amnesty International (which you later declared propaganda). You used your own people as human shields, and now you cry that Russia is "killing" them. And your insults won't change the fact that the front is moving west. Your "cartoonish anger" is just the hysteria of a loser who can't accept that Russia hasn't collapsed.
>>544901185The key mistake - the provocation - was the exclusion of the Russian language from the list of languages of Ukraine. Whoever did this knew that they were provoking Russia. There were such provocateurs.
>>544901528>The war started off with Russia having a 1:20 firepower advantage over Ukraine and yet, here we are, almost 5 years later and russia barely conquered any land in the last 3.5 years. Why is that? picterl is the distance it took russia 3.5 years to cover.>Russia doesn't need much to win.so, two more weeks?
>>544901217Are you concerned about the fate of tens of thousands of Russian-speaking Ukrainians killed by Kyiv before 2022 after the Western-backed Maidan coup?
>>544901349Ukraine is a thief, a deceiver, and a murderer (including after May 2, 2014, according to the Odesa calendar).
>>544900257since 2014 there were multiple conditions laid out by Russia to Ukraine on how to settle the Donbas issue. None of those conditions involved Russia taking any land. The condition was partial autonomy and amnesty. That's it.Ukraine rejected everything.Then Merkel admitted that EU's mediator role in the Minsk Agreements was just to win time for Ukraine to re-arm its army in preparation for full conquest of Donbass.Before SMO started, Russia sent generals to NATO offering deals to prevent the war in Ukraine from started. NATO also rejected every single point.The whole Minsk / NATO posturing in the peace deals over Donbass always followed the same simple principle:>Russia has no right to set any demands or rules for what happens in Ukraine. Therefore we will reject literally and absolutely everything.Then when Russia escalated by launching SMO, they started whining and crying about justice and fairness.Yet even at the very start of SMO Russia still offered conditions for peace:>Ukraine recognises Luhansk and Donetsk as independent>Ukraine reduces its military size>Ukraine writes non-bloc military alignment into constitution>Ukraine makes everything related to Nazi/NeoNazi ideology officially illegalAgain, Ukraine/EU/NATO said>Absolutely noWest's only offer for "peace" since 2014 has been>strategic defeat of RussiaThat's not an offer of peace, it's an offer of total war.
>>544901701How much land USrael conquered in Iran? Russians at least took 20% of Ukraine and pound hohols with sustainable and constantly growing firepower whose monthly volume exceeds entire scale of the Epstein Fury. Read here:>>544898215
>>544901701>and yet, here we are, almost 5 years later and russia barely conquered any land in the last 3.5 years. Why is that?because the goal of the war is the permanently destruction of Ukraine's military potential.Not only in the short term, but also for the foreseeable future for the next 100+ years.If you read military classics, you'd know that territorial conquest by itself rarely solves any military goals. It only creates new problems in near future.That's how the Roman Empire fell apart.And that's how every single US war ended for the US.
>>544901690>muh provocation>you was provoking me, cuzyou do realize how turdworld you sound to any civilized person, right?
>>544901607The original intent of the SMO and the Instanbul agreement was to just fucking leave the Donbass. The Ukrainian side actually agreed but then were told by Boris and the EU crats that they would get no funding or support if they caved to any of Russian demands. Thus you have the proxy war on demand. Zelensky has also aged 20 years in just 5 this is not stress related but of his consistent drug abuse. But its too late for any peace initiatives Russia has already attained total battlefield dominance it will years to crack Ukraine open like a melon but it will save many lives to just go at it deliberately and without overreacting to everything. In the end Ukraine gave Russia a black eye Russia meanwhile broke down Ukraine and is in the process of devouring it.
>>544901910What's it like to be constantly ass mad about Russia?
>>544901957>t. country that reports every two weeks on national television how they'll destroy germany and how germany will freeze to death
>>544901662>military tactics documented even by Amnesty Internationalwhy don't you show all of their findings, pidrilka? - Such violations in no way justify Russia’s indiscriminate attacks, which have killed and injured countless civilians.Russian Forces: Documented using siege warfare, indiscriminate bombing, unguided dumb bombs, multiple-launch rocket systems (MLRS), and banned cluster munitions against populated urban centers like Mariupol, Kharkiv, and Izium.The bottom line is YOUR country started the war for no other reason than delusions of grandeur. >Russia hasn't collapsedkek, the key word is yet. It took the USSR 70 years to collapse, you're only on year 36 of the "russian federation" experiment and you're already breaking at the seems.
>>544901863>the goal of the war is the permanently destruction of Ukraine's military potential.LMAO! russia is currently achieving exactly the opposite. Ukraine has never been stronger militarily in it's whole history as it is now. Even the russian analysts say that.
>>544902051They constantly assert exactly this. The saddest thing is that Ukrainians are literally sitting on a barrel of gold, and at the same time they are poor, dirty, constantly lie, and beg for alms - such is the result of their 30 years of “independence.” The poorest country in Europe.
>>544902066>and you're already breaking at the seemsWe’ll collapse tomorrow, brother. They’ll tell you about it on Deutsche Welle
>>544902247People dont accept PPP because they dont understand that if I make 100k while living in San Francisco its the same as me making 50k living in Fresno. PPP applies to everything while GDP is a measure by how rich a certain segment of jews are.
>>544901312>somehow he was employed as a intel operative by the US MoD>his superior was a well-known retard in command, paid by the Russia>expert Sat-Image analyst can´t the shit apart>can´t tell Nato and Russian camo patterns apart>what´s to migrate to china, because he thinks they are in dire need of retards>can´t do a write-up without chatgtpYou should take your mental illness seriously.
>>544902158kek, pure pidor projections. You're sitting on the richest resources on earth but have to sign up to die in a foreign war to see any kind of decent wages. russia can't even make any competitive modern goods on its territory, it's just a resource extractor and exporter, not a maker or manufacturer of anything. Truly pathetic.
>>544902247>but muh pppyou're reduced to buying bread by slice, a practice not seen in any developed country. That's how poor you truly are.
>>544902370>being an upper middle class pajeet in india is just the same as being a high class german sars, trust me!!! PPP very good metric!
>>544900282Many Ukraine supporters still doesnt even know where its located, so you know the answer
>>544902619>he thinks that Russia one of the largest bread producers in the world cant feed its own people Damn NAFO propaganda is retarded just like the NAFO nigger that goes to red square and yells fuck Putin and gets arrested to prove a point that the Ukrianian TCC aint that bad mkay?
>>544902482Almost half of Russia’s agricultural exports in 2025 accounted for high value-added products (48%).>it's just a resource extractor and exporter, not a maker or manufacturer of anythingBla-bla-blaIt is just sad that so many people are willing to sacrifice a nation to do so. This isn't even mentioning the chaos of the post-war that Ukraine will be in.
>>544902619>you're reduced to buying bread by sliceOh my God, shut up already. At first I didn’t care about the conflict - ordinary Slavic nonsense. But Ukraine kept shifting the ball onto us. Zelensky has a well-paid circle of thugs who are loyal to him as long as money is flowing. They are paid with your money, btw.
Once again russians proving they lie like they breathe.
>>544896942If hohol casualties werent massive you would have no reason to flee the Hruckraine like a coward and shiver in fear while hiding in Bulgaria, Taras.
Alright, so who is winning and why is taking so long?All I see is just Ziggers foaming at their mouths in this thread
>>544903280Ukraine has already lost the war. Any delay of the conflict from this point will only lead to even greater destruction of Ukraine. The question is not whether Ukraine will lose, but how badly it will lose now.
>>544902391This same pajeet has been larping for months, kinda sad really.
>>544903339Somebody has to officially declare it then.Till the next Slavic wars then I suppose.You lads can never keep peace with each other for too long either way.The Tale of Bygone Years taught me that.
