I will distinguish it from actual mutt nations like USA Mexico and Brazil where the majority of the population is mixed raceBut for these nations like Belgium and Switzerland there’s an actual solution of splitting them up and absorbing them back into the main countryShould this happen?
>>544903797Belgium is the Huguenot nation, they used to be a massive problem in Europe. since Belgium was founded not so much anymore. Flanders is Dutch Catholic.
>>544904827Belgium is still a massive problem in Europe, but we call it Belgium or EU, not Huguenot. France had a solution for the Huguenot Question which is why they emigrated everywhere including Ireland. Dutch Catholics, French Protestants, same shit.
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>>544905080they also fled to America. Belgium didn't exist then so you just called them French, but they didn't want to be French because French Catholics kicked them out for being Dutch Protestants but they didn't speak Dutch, only French. a lot of them are also in South Africa where the Dutch often have French names. Belgium later took over the Congo and Rwanda, countries that didn't exist yet, probably following this route but they didn't really settle there like Anglos (Huguenot Dutch French settlers who spoke English and Dutch and many adopted English names) did further south in Africa.
>>544905318Belgium is a conflict area because of the Alps, it's where the Eurasia steppes meet the Mediterranean. world wars usually get stuck there (WW1, Waterloo etc.)
>>544903797Idk man Switzerland seems like one of the best countries there is. They are pretty conservative. It seems like voting matters there.Meanwhile germany wants to ban a party half the population votes for. But said party could never govern thanks to weird laws made by the usa after ww2. Maybe Germany should be made swiss.Idk what the fuck belgium even is though.
>>544903797Like a decade ago, I had a girlfriend from Belgium and I just asked her what she thought about her country simply reintegrating with France/Netherlands. Her answer was basically, yeah it's a meme country and maybe it would be better to get rid of it but she clung to this idea well then it seems like waste for those people that fought for independence, that their sacrifice was for nothing. But also added as time goes on from that event people seem to care less. The last point, and I thought this was very telling, and keep in mind this is more than a decade ago, would she be okay with basically getting rid of her country if it meant getting rid of all the migrants in places like Brussels and she said yes. Like this was more important to her than this idea of nationhood for Belgium.And she wasn't any kind of redpilled, natsoc, it's the Jews type, either. And at the time I was also a lot less redpilled, she was already basically at that "I don't feel safe" stage and being honest about it. I was just fucking annoyed to see these old cities that have very nice buildings and so on, just start to go to shit, looking like the third world with litter everywhere and niggers in tents and shit. We can call countries like Belgium a meme country but European people don't deserve this shit.
>>544903797>>544905614Not to mention the absurd amount of tax in germany and austria, they have 50% tax rates which fund migrants.Compared to a couple percent tax in switzerland. (For capital gains)
>>544905719Brussels is particularly bad because it is a part of Wallonia inside Flanders as the capital to keep it together (similar to West Berlin in East Germany). This means it has to be filled with French speakers, which they got from former Belgian and French colonies.
>>544905872You may also notice the Belgian flag is just the French flag, but with Germany's colours.
seperatism has always been a niche boomer thing here. there's no popular support for breaking up the country nowadaysthe old right wingers hate the french speaking bourgeoisie the young right wingers are more focused on migration
>>544905979and the Netherlands flag is just the German flag, but with France's colours
>>544904827you are based
>>544906016Huguenot comes from the Dutch word 'Huisgenoten', literally 'housemates, civilians', in German meaning something like 'Burger (citizen)'. The literal translation of Huguenot to German is 'Eidgenossen', meaning 'Confederacy,' originally referring to Switzerland (full name 'Swiss Confederation'). In the modern sense this would mean something like 'Republican', although in the United States 'Republican' and 'Confederate' have taken a more nuanced different meaning. Although Belgium is now under a monarchy to keep it together, there is a Huguenot Republican separatist core to it which is why it's two nations in one and why the French monarchy expelled them, although an overriding Republican sentiment won in the end, or did it seeing as Napoleon took it over, including Belgium until we stopped him?The Germanic black, yellow, red colours which is now primarily attributed to the liberal Weimar Republic and earlier German Revolutions of 1848 leading to unification originally comes from the coat of arms of the Dukedom of Brabant, which was the Catholic region of the Dutch Republic. We have seen a similar contention in Germany and Austria about whether to be a republic or monarchy which is usually resolved with a Kaiser general similar to Napoleon, but this hasn't been allowed to play out in Germania in nearly a century. Same conflict also exists in my nation and wherever Huguenots settled. If the black, yellow, red burger flag is Catholic Germania including the Bavarians and Austrians and Belgians, then one wonders what a truly Protestant Germania would look like. Drumpf (originally a Democrat, now a Republican) does appear to be completing some form of German idealism in the United States although it's still to be seen whether the Huguenots were right to be expelled or not.
>>544908825*Bürger also used to have a similar meaning to 'Merchant' or 'Bourgoise' but I'll let a German explain that. How could a peasant worker became a merchant? That process is what the word means, we don't really have a word for it in English.
>>544904827>Flanders is Dutch CatholicWas.
>>544906037That is incorrect, the Dutch tricolour is the oldest one in the world. It is the OG of all tricoloured, banded flags in the world.
>>544909513the French (and Russian, and by extension any flag that is inspired by France) flags most likely came from the Dutch one. the Kingdom of France had a plain white flag before the Revolution. You only say it's wrong because you immediately assumed France was the origin of everything, which is a very Catholic thing to believe so you are probably from Brabant or Limburg.
>>544905614>Idk what the fuck belgium even is though.Just a little reminder that Belgium is historically far far wealther than Switzerland which was a shithole most of its history, the fact it's the opposite right now is a complete anomaly of history
>>544909757>muh dukes of burgundythat is not belgium, youre not the same people with the same history. you just occupy the space burgundy once occupied
>>544905719People want to get rid of the governments in belgium, like they do in France or maybe the UKThat doesn't mean the country itself is a meme or something
>>544909911>that is not belgium, youre not the same people with the same history. you just occupy the space burgundy once occupiedYou will have to explain this to me.Why wouldn't I be the same people? Why would the French be the same people as in the middle age, or the Germans, but not me as a Belgian?
>>544910160Burgundy was a realm of ethnically French people. Your people (Belgians) are not ethnically French, not even the Walloons are French despite speaking the language. Your origins are not the same as the people of Burgundy. You share nothing but geography.
>>544910308So what you are saying is that there have been movement of people in the land of Belgium, that while the French and Germans and Italians stayed stagnant.I've never seen any evidence of that and any genetic test shows that the people of Belgium didn't change much genetically.since the early middle age
>>544910604>what you are saying is that there have been movement of peopleYour country has been the battlefield of Europe many times before the well-known 20th century conflicts, and that does mean a lot of movement and death changing the population, but the core of the issue is that the dukes of burgundy were french and your ancestors were not french. so claiming their wealthy times as your legacy is false.>I've never seen any evidence of thatI assume you know your people are Germanic? your people were peasants to the dukes of burgundy
>>544910930most settlement in western Europe was around the Rhine river, it still is. the modern country borders didn't really exist, neither did Burgundy as a drawn border
>>544903797Switzerland and Luxemburg should be German and Belgium should be French
>>544903797>Should bastard nations be destroyedmurican retard. Belgium is a multinational kingdom. there are 4 nations in it. this is why Belgium is drifting into splitting.
>>544911135Burgundy is relevant today because of the wine and colour. If you mix black and red you get burgundy.
>>544908825So who are the huguenots in Belgium nowadays then. The Flemish, the Walloons, the Nafris, the the Flemoons?
>>544911344Whoever calls themselves a Belgian and not those other things that they actually are. It's a burger.
Do the Flemish consider themselves ethnically Dutch? Flemish language is just another name for Dutch, right? To me it seems like at most a regional variation, even calling it a dialect is too much, just a different accent?
>>544911422No. We consider ourselves Germanic, ethnically. The elite bourgeois still speaks French. Still, even among the separatist only a minority considers merging with the Netherlands. It genuinely is a different culture. Catholic vs protestant legacy is only the surfaceFlemish is a different dialect with a lot more latinate words
>>544911297Since the black in the flag come from a coat of arms, in heraldry black used to represent >constancy, prudence, wisdom, self-discipline, and grief or mourning. Saturn, the jewel diamond, and the element of winter or the night sky.Hard work and independence. The common image of the German in the Middle Ages was of the Puritan, dressed like they're going to a funeral (death of Jesus was a sad affair) in all black with a pointed hat. This was the Protestant uniform. Nowadays people probably assume the black in the flags mean Africans or pirates (crime) which would explain Germany and Belgium's current situation.
>>544904965Simple, same a jésuite, we killed them all.
i agree that belgium is a corporate pet project, but switzerland is a thousand years older than your country.
>>544911192>Switzerland and Luxemburg should be German and Belgium should be FrenchYou are wrong. Belgium is the opposite of France.France is the main example of the centralized state. All its history, Belgium resisted centralization like the plague more than any other country.1789 while France centralized through the French revolution, Belgium, then Austrian Netherlands, outright rejected Austrian Duke Josef II to centralize and be ruled from Vienna.1830, Belgium rejected being ruled from Amsterdam.20th century, Belgium federalized more and more, rejecting being ruled from Brussels (instead, being ruled by its regions), flemish "nationalism" is just a step further to decentralization.So, Belgium is the antithesis of centralized France, and is a very feudal country
>>544911866This was in contrast to how Catholics would dress in the Middle Ages, we would call it 'Renaissance' style or something like that. They didn't really seem bothered by the death of Jesus, were they even Christian?
>>544912059Switzerland is just a bunch of mountain full of boring leftover from France and Germany.
>>544912170You may presume England had a bit of both, one minute they're Protestant, next minute they're Catholic. We also had a few wars about this so can totally understand Belgium's circumstances. This resulted in the Episcopalian religion which perhaps Belgium should also adopt, it worked in New England.
>>544911866>the jewel diamondBelgium's economy is also 60% diamonds, which come from Africa. The diamond trade started in the Duchy of Brabant in the 1300s but then it originally they were originally dug up from Russia.
>>544913539* but then they were originally dug up from Russia.Protestants in New England also still dress like they did in Belgium and Switzerland and wherever else John Calvin's message reached, but I don't think they worship Saturn. Different religion even if they came from the same country. Not country but region, whatever.
>>544913539>Belgium's economy is also 60% diamondswut
>>544913944Okay 3%, maybe 10% if you include 'unknown transaction'. From the outside you're known for chocolate and diamonds, although some people mistake it for Switzerland, but that is where the money is stored you get from selling diamonds, they are cut in Belgium.
>>544911192there is no such thing as "France"its a made up countryFrance shouldnt exist
>>544914065Chocolate from cocoa which comes from Africa, diamonds which come from Africa, black in your flag. An American sees this and they will start thinking of something else. Since Belgium speaks French it also gets projected onto France. This wouldn't be so bad but the EU means these memes are spread across the whole continent. Huguenots were a problem. >>544911918
>>544903797>Should this happen?Main problem with that is where do you stop?Half of Europe got under French flag at least once.Half of France got under German flag at least once, even if you remove the WW they still had a good quarter/third at some points.England/France bickering is mostly because both crown claimed to have legitimate rights over the other country.Northern Italy is Gaul clay and massively different from the browner estruscan/roman mix down South. Fuck, Greece could claim the south coast of France, Sardinia, and a bunch of other random cities.... like, what's your threshold exactly? Because Europe is old as fuck and shit like "back into the main country" is slightly more complicated than you seem to think.Also I don't want Switzerland incorporated into France, that's my escape route when the brown hordes start killing everyone under Mélanchon.
Oh it's clear you haven't been there. Europe truly looks like a branch of Northern Africa and the ME.
>>544903797How are we even supposed to believe that Belgium exists in the first place?
>>544914136what shiould there be instead?thanks to the French there is a bit of nuclear power in Europe
>>544914669something like Vichy works for me
>>544903797Country =/= Nation
>>544914616Belgium is not different from any other country in Europe: a tax farm for goyim
>>544914717and be ruled by nihilistic ecofags Germany?
>>544915006I really dont give a fuck how "france" is governed its not relevant to anything anyway
>>544915288why do you say france shouldn't exist then
>>544916048to liberate Alsace
>>544916181nice larp bro
>>544916514who asked you, Nouredinego burn down "France"do the world a favour
>>544903797>Switzerland>back into the main countryWhich?
>>544916707Germany obviously
>>544916778Switzerland existed for 800 years before Germany did
>>544916912cool story, PanchoSwitzerland literally split from Germany
>>544916984>we wuz holy roman emperors n shiet
>>544917033why do you think the swiss speak german, you utter retaded mexican?
>>544917086I'm saying you should be Swiss before they become Germany
>>544917251noone gives a fuck abotu your retarded presence here
>>544903797>actual mutt nations like the US-fuck off. You are not majority mixed race you have too many racially pure minorities.
the youth here all looks unexplicably like Sideshow Bob, I don't know if they are nafris or mullatoes
>>544903797ya
>>544917302Fuck you you fucking Brazilian I bet I'm darker and more mischling esque than you cunt
>1pbtid>stupid question with a mapsaar
