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>>544905342
Europeans can't agree what their interest actually is
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>>544905426
To serve America?
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>>544905342
So you're saying you're people are to retarded to run their own country?
You need unelected officials to do it for you?
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imagine if every state in America spoke a different language.

Not saying federal Europe is impossible but I think it'd be better to have a few Yugoslavia-like federations in Europe rather than one massive one (in the sense of them having broadly the same language, territory and culture. Obviously Yugoslavia ended badly but it was the right idea. Splitting it up just allowed its constituent states to be assimilated into the EU like the Borg)
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>>544905342
it would cause too much lag because the game isn't optimized, it'll never happen
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>>544905342
how about the EU stop importing millions of third worlders and they'd have the support they so desire
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>>544905342
No, the EU is not in the interest of Europeans
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>>544905342
Yes, this is true. Europe used to be a single supernation under socialist internationalist leadership throughout its long history, and then after postwar united states dominance the UN and later the EU were forced upon europe to divide it into smaller kingdoms and domains.
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>>544905342
a bunch of balkanoids and greekoids having a say in my daily life in bumfuck nowhere just doesnt seem to be in my interest
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>>544905342
Yes
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>>544905342
>China is bad!!!
I still dont get it why euroidiots are scared of China.
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>>544905342
why are iceland, ukraine and belarus included but not russia?
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>>544905526
your*
too*
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>>544905953
We're not scared of China. China is good.
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>>544905342
Naaah... Left is the interest of the EU Parliament. Right is the interest of Europeans, but in terms of divide&conquer in the interest of Russia.
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>>544905974
Russians aren't Europeans apparently
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>>544905342
why only granular fragmentation *or* superstate? why not good old national sovereignty without forced redistribution from the high-achievers to the leeches?
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>>544905342
It's true they want Iceland to nudge over closer to Scotland.
Need more manuvering room for their submarine fleet.
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>>544905559
>imagine if every state in America spoke a different language.

The south does speak ebonics to be fair
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>>544905342
Very true. Russia, USA and China all really want to completely wipe out the island of Pantelleria.
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>>544906375
You going to understand hell of a lot more ebonics than the average Irish is going to understand Italian
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>>544905342
lolno. without europe, France would make bank in trade taxes because all european trade need our roads and rails to move anything. And that's without counting the electricity market scam
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>>544906445
lovely island, lovely people
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I want russia to kill euroniggers en masse. I would do anything to watch some of their jet powered drones permanently remove the smugness of the euronigger by flying into their homes.
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>>544906093
That chart is misleading as it ignores the huge economic advantage German alone was given by the Euro, nevermind the amount of policies designed to favour Germany. If the EU broke apart it would be catastrophic for Germany.
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>>544905342
Its fucking sides in orbit funny how you didnt mind doing same shit to Yugos
Suck it now
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>>544905342
The European ideal has always been the right. From the Hellenic city states to the Germanic barbarian tribes; all of our people believed in autonomy and independence; small close knit groups of ethnically related people that made their own rules and lived how they wanted.

In times of war we would band together. The Greek cities united to fight off the Persians. The Germanic tribes united to fight the Huns. The kingdoms of Christendom united in the Crusades to fight off the Arabs and Turks and to re-take Iberia.

We desire independence but it does not mean we do not recognise those who are similar to us and band with them to fight off common threats.
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>>544905342
No, it's not. Burn Brussels, hang all unelected EU hags and faggots,and rebuild industries dismantled by the EU kikes. All federation shilling niggers are usually the ones who benefit the most from the EU's current model and policies, always the same flags shilling for it. The EU was a mistake.
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Couldn't it be argued that regions are often at their strongest when they are most politically fragmented? Historically I think that is often the case.
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>>544905342
Retarded. The EU is a kike apparatus. Having sovereign nations is against kike plans, just as having sovereign states in America is against kike plans. Federalized top-down police states are what kikes desire, but global government gives them the biggest boner.
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>>544905559
Wait that's already happening...
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>>544906569
>I want russia to kill euroniggers en masse. I would do anything to watch some of their jet powered drones permanently remove the smugness of the euronigger by flying into their homes.
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>>544905559
Just learn Latin as a second language and use that.
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>>544905526
States would still have plenty of self-rule under federal europe, even more so than individual US states. But having a common military, industrial, trade and foreign policy makes perfect sense and is a lot more efficient way to govern. Trump, Xi and Putin wouldn't be able to get away with shit they do now and there would be no need for US military presence on the continent.
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Europe is the new Soviet Union, run by the same Bolshevik Talmudic zionists that fucked up Russia and all the nations under the hammer and sickle.
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>>544906600
>If the EU broke apart it would be catastrophic for Germany.
doubt—
doesnt the eu force migration down everyones throat also? isnt nato us geopolitics in disguise?
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>>544907194
That would be my suggestion for the Romance countries. They can form their own federation
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>>544905342
No, do you know? probably not
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>>544907166
Why can euros wish for my death every day yet when I wish death upon them I’m a jew? I want you stabbed, strangled and dismembered by a refugee. I want a russian drone to kill you and your family. I wish the worst upon you just as you wish upon Americans.
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>>544905342
France has no common interest with any Warsaw Pact shitholes. If you think that Portugal has more in common with the fake country called Estonia, that Estonia with Russia, you are sick in the head. Those countries were called Russia during my youth by everybody.
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>>544906600
“What England fails to achieve in this war, it will strive for in a second—and, if need be, in a third and fourth; it will certainly not relent, and peace will serve its ends just as well as war [...] If self-abasement is tantamount to suicide, then the humiliation of another can likewise be planned in such a way that it amounts to murder: that is precisely what England intends for Germany. It does not wish to kill, but to extinguish the inner light of life; to break the nation of its ambition—and with it, its honor; to clip the wings of its will—and thereby rob it of its dignity. [...] It is known—or at least I hope the message has finally reached the Germans, a message whose dissemination leading circles long resisted—it is known, then, that Germany’s enemies are pursuing the plan to shatter Germany’s strength once and for all; [...] the coming peace is intended to facilitate the completion of this task. In this way, the German spirit is to be crushed—so that it may never rise again; the German may then continue to serve the ruling English and Americans as a diligent slave—as a scholar, waiter, chemist, and so forth. Our enemies perceive the German so acutely as the born destroyer of their civilization—a civilization dominated by all-powerful Mammon—and they know just as acutely that this is a life-and-death struggle! England pursues [...] the plan to become master of the world, to create a global monopoly for itself: it has destroyed, or weakened into submission, every state that threatened this plan; now it is Germany’s turn; hotheads demand its total destruction, while leading politicians declare they would be content with its permanent weakening—with reducing Germany to the status of a Central European Spain.”

Houston Stewart Chamberlain, Germany - England, 1914
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>>544905342
>>544905526
The EU was initially established as a trade block to compete more efficiently with Asia and the Americas which was fine.
Things started shitting the bed when they started forcing us to import 3rd worlders and implement CO2 emission limits faggotry.
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>>544907548
german original:

„Was England in diesem Kriege nicht erreicht, wird es in einem zweiten, und wenn es not tut, in einem dritten und vierten erstreben; es läßt sicher nicht nach, und Friede wird seinem Ziele ebenso willkommen und dienlich sein wie Krieg [...] Ist die Selbsterniedrigung gleich Selbstmord zu achten, so kann auch das Erniedrigen eines Andern derart geplant sein, daß es einem Mord gleichkommt: das ist's, was England an Deutschland vorhat. Töten will es nicht, aber das innere Lebenslicht auslöschen; der Nation den Ehrgeiz abgewöhnen — und mit ihm die Ehre; ihr den Flügelschlag des Wollens brechen - und damit die Würde rauben. [...] Man weiß - ich hoffe wenigstens, daß es endlich gelungen ist, den Deutschen die Kunde zu vermitteln, gegen deren Verbreitung führende Kreise sich lange sträubten — man weiß also, daß Deutschlands Feinde den Plan Ideal und Macht - verfolgen, die Kraft Deutschlands endgültig zu brechen; [...] der Vollendung dieses Werkes soll der kommende Friede dienen. Auf diese Weise soll das Deutsche zermalmt werden — auf daß es nie wieder erstehe; der Deutsche mag dann weiter als emsiger Sklave den herrschenden Engländern und Amerikanern als Gelehrter, Kellner, Chemiker usw. dienen. So genau empfinden unsere Feinde das Deutsche als den geborenen Zerstörer ihrer Zivilisationsmethode des allbeherrschenden Mammons, so genau wissen sie, daß es einen Kampf auf Leben und Tod gilt! England verfolgt [...] den Plan, Herr der Welt zu werden, sich ein Weltmonopol zu schaffen: es hat jeden Staat zerstört oder bis zur Gefügigkeit geschwächt, der diesen Plan gefährdete; jetzt ist Deutschland an der Reihe; die Heißsporne verlangen dessen gänzliche Zerstörung, die leitenden Politiker erklären, sich mit der dauernden Schwächung begnügen zu wollen, mit der Herabsetzung Deutschlands auf den Stand eines mitteleuropäischen Spaniens.“

Houston Stewart Chamberlain, Deutschland - England, 1914
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>>544905342
Why would Eastern euro shitholes getting billions in gibs be in our interest? Why would freedom of movement be in our interest either? Why would being ruled by the likes of Guy Verhofstadt be in our interest?
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>>544905342
>please accept being cattle to own the commies and retards
no
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>>544907391
>>544907548
>>544907596

Germans have the EU/ECB pointed out to them, and how it benefits Germany - so much so that every European and global financial institution (e.g IMF, etc) have articles listed on their websites on how Germany benefits from the Euro at the expense of others which take 0.5 seconds to find on Google, and in response we get a fake data chart off a bullshit Youtube video with fake economic data, and a fake Churchill quote by a Brit that was pro-nazi.
You are most dishonest, self-aggrandizing people to walk on this Earth. You are literally the Jeets of Europe. You are basically Jeets that know how to use soap and use toilets while sharing every other collectivist traits with Jeets.
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>>544905342
I yet to hear a single good argument for why left is bad, if you're a European. *And*, why do you think the right would be better?
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>>544908128
>the yuro benefitting yurops biggest economy is le bad
You're simply still butthurt over how Brexit raped your economy. Stay jelly.
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>>544905342
How many Brits who voted Brexit agree with this?
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>>544905342
The image on the left is like the mistake of Yugoslavia multiplied by 10.

The image on the right is simply nonsense with no relation to political realities.
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>>544905342
2 gay fucking maps huh
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>>544908284
>why left is bad
Yugoslavia did not work. no matter how both monarchy and socialism tried to make it work.
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>>544906478
das rite i can in2 ebonx
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>>544908426
>Brexit
Brexit was a mistake. but people deserve what they voted for.
Britain was insuffferable and couldn't accept sharing secondplace with France.

Every day Britain exists outside EU, Financial Trade is lost to the Netherlands.
It's bleeding out, NGMI.
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>>544908426
That doesn't make sense you total retard. I'm not telling Germans they should leave the EU. I'm saying the data shows they're uniquely better off in it than anyone else, and the idea that they would leave the Euro or EU is obviously nonsense as their political class would just post the data and no Germans are going to quit a system that benefits them so much.
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>>544905342
Yes.
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>>544908707
The imperialistic eu versus the freedom loving feudalism
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>>544905623
It's not the EU deciding to import brownies.
Like in Spain it's the leftwing government that imported arabs.
This isn't 2015 anymore, that was 20 years ago, unc
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>>544905342
>form a giant federation, EUSSR
>give up your nationalities and your identities, goy
>why do you need sovereignty for, goy?
>hey, goy?
KYS, commie leprechaun
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>>544908646
yes, of course they're better off, so what?
A strong Germany = a strong yurop as we all trade with them.
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>>544908128
shut it, you were jelly over germanys success so you had to shut it down, germany was a late comer to the whole nations game, unified properly only in 1872, you had a head-start & used the advantage to crush the rising star on mainland europe, calling your us colony for aid & then financed the russians via lend-lease to do the bleeding in your stead on the eastern front, the jew ofc had an interest in destryoing a true geermanic völkish state also & promote bolshevism, bc nepotism is only for the chosen ones while the goy gets capitalism, selfishness eternal infighting until total exhaustion—
>oy vey the eu benefits germany actually
we are overrun by niggers, our women are infertile feminists, no such thing would have happened under hitler, its all western imports forced upon us by the judeo-anglo—
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>>544905342
Imagine what a chore it would be to corrupt all those governments on the right, one by one. Clearly it's much better to just have one corrupt government above all
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>>544908864
What kind of slave owner logic is this, that if someone rigs the rules in their favour, everyone else should be grateful and pretend its good for all? If your neighbour is competing against you in a market, you're not better off if the local government rigs the rules in your neighbours favour. If the EU broke apart, European countries have significantly more control of their own affairs.
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>>544905342
No because the Europeans fought a war almost a century ago to prevent the first from happening.
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>>544909007
Notice you still can't exist in the world today and the current policies, so you keep referencing a time period that isn't relevant (or even true in terms of what you re arguing).
As for as mass migration goes into Germany, we played no role in that. To be honest I'd have Turks than the shit we have. At least Turks are just ethnic Greeks in denial.
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>>544909031
>slave owner logic
You could've just said you're a retarded anti-europe shill instead of spouting buzzwords.
Anywho, enjoy your tanking economy since you didn't want to be EU "slaves".
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>>544908773
>imperialistic eu versus the freedom loving feudalism

how does feudalism benefit you - the common man?
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>>544908646
>I'm saying the data shows they're uniquely better off in it than anyone else, and the idea that they would leave the Euro or EU is obviously nonsense as their political class would just post the data and no Germans are going to quit a system that benefits them so much.
what are you talking about, germany is slowly bleeding out & so are most other euro nations, benefit to you means ofc shekels that only the very few get, while the masses are being replaced by cheap browns— your jewish mind cant comprehend anything else being of value—
>oy vey goy, arent you satisfied, bmws & high quality dentistry, hwat more can you wish for?—
>dont like seeing the brown workers polluting city center anight doing drugs, being loud & obnoxious? just move to the countryside—
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>>544905559
>imagine if every state in America spoke a different language.
Wouldn't fucking matter in even the slightest bit except for tourism. Europe having a million languages is totally irrelevant to whether its countries have a shared interest. It only matters to nationalists, and what a fucking gormless bunch they are, especially today.
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Russia's annexion and domination policy as well as the US's trade wars and middle east foreign policy are both good arguments for the EU to exist
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>>544905462
America?
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>>544909291
My feudal lord made me a noble
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>>544909445
Yes. As long as there is US military in the EU you are being occupied by them and serve the occupier (ie their interests). Back in the days 3 year old children used to understand these basics.
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we can have both at the same time
neo hre, with electors and everithing
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>>544905953
For decades, we had the upper hand when it came to engineering. Whether it was heavy machinery or electrical, that has long gone. China does the same on a larger scale with smaller costs because it is heavily subsidized and the labor cost is basically zero. We used to shit on China because it was a shitty factory for shitty parts but that quickly changed. Plus it’s the typical bipolar disorder retards in Europe have. On the other hand they shit their pants talking about china but on the other hand they sell companies and permits to them on a whim. We will see that VW will be sold to the chinks in our lifetime
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>>544905342
wake up, you are already brown
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>>544905342
>just let us rule you through an unelected monarchy that tells representatives to ignore their country's domestic policies and overspend above their debt ceilings
It's time to stop, eurobros.
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>>544909170
>As for as mass migration goes into Germany, we played no role in that.
you 'won' ww2 so you make the rules, hitler would have ever allowed any of it, you just hate the naive, trusting germans recognizing the hellscpae you created for what it is instead of playing along & pretend what we have now is normal & ofc forget about the jewish question altogether—
you love the docile low test german cuck who would let anything be done to him & even thank you for your 'modern' progressive reforms—
your nihilistic materialism is your death sentence, the question is only if you manage to take us down with you—
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>>544909716
“It would be the saddest sign of decadence if higher intellectual work could be obtained only through higher pay. If this viewpoint had dominated the world up to now, humanity would never have acquired its greatest scientific and cultural treasures. All the greatest inventions, the greatest discoveries, the most revolutionary scientific work, and the most magnificent monuments of human culture were never given to the world under the drive for money. On the contrary, not rarely was their birth associated with a renunciation of worldly pleasures. It may be that gold has become the lone ruler of life today, but a time will come when men will again bow to higher gods. Much that we have today owes its existence to the desire for money and wealth, but there is very little among all this that would leave humanity poorer by its absence. It's also one of our movement's tasks to bring about a day when the individual will receive what he needs to live, while upholding the principle that man doesn't live for material pleasure alone. [...] Care must be taken not to underestimate the power of an idea. For those faint-hearted ones today in this respect, I would remind them, if they ever were soldiers, of the time when heroism was the most convincing proof of the power inherent in idealistic motives. It wasn't concern for their daily bread that led men to die, but love of Fatherland, faith in its greatness, and an all-round feeling for national honor.”

Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, 1925/26, Dalton Translation
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>>544909647
Communism knew that capitalism couldn't compete with state backed enterprise, as Alan Tourraine pointed out once they started outsourcing their downfall was unavoidable
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>>544909796
german original:

„Das wäre das traurigste Zeichen des Verfalls einer Zeit, wenn der Antrieb zu einer höheren geistigen Leistung nur mehr im höheren Lohne läge. Wenn dieser Gesichtspunkt bisher auf dieser Welt der einzig maßgebende gewesen wäre, würde die Menschheit ihre größten wissenschaftlichen und kulturellen Güter niemals empfangen haben. Denn die größten Erfindungen, die größten Entdeckungen, die umwälzendsten wissenschaftlichen Arbeiten, die herrlichsten Denk mäler menschlicher Kultur sind nicht aus dem Drange nach Geld der Welt gegeben worden. Im Gegenteil, ihre Geburt bedeutete nicht selben geradezu den Verzicht auf das irdische Glück des Reichtums. Es mag sein, daß heute das Geld der ausschließliche Regent des Lebens geworden ist, doch wird dereinst der Mensch sich wieder vor höheren Göttern beugen. Vieles mag heute nur dem Sehnen nach Geld und Vermögen sein Dasein verdanken, aber es ist wohl nur wenig darunter, dessen Nichtvorhandensein die Menschheit ärmer sein ließe. Auch dies ist eine Aufgabe unserer Bewegung, daß sie schon heute von einer Zeit künde, die dem einzelnen das geben wird, was er zum Leben braucht, aber dabei den Grundsatz hochhält, daß der Mensch nicht ausschließlich um materieller Genüsse willen lebt. [...] Man hüte sich, die Kraft eines Ideals zu niedrig einzuschätzen. Wer in dieser Hinsicht heute kleinmütig wird, den möchte ich, falls er einst Soldat war, zurückerinnern an eine Zeit, deren Heldentum das überwältigendste Bekenntnis zur Kraft idealer Motive darstellte. Denn, was die Menschen damals sterben ließ, war nicht die Sorge um das tägliche Brot, sondern die Liebe zum Vaterland, der Glaube an die Größe desselben, das allgemeine Gefühl für die Ehre der Nation.“

Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, 1925/26
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>>544905342
Neither path is would be good. Europe would be better off administrated into a few blocs divided by ethnicity:
>A Latin Western Roman empire
>A greater Germanic state that also encompasses Hungary, the Baltics, and the Central slavic states
>A Balkan federation of sorts
>And an Eastern Slavic state
And Ironically Ireland should be independent of if it all but Ulsters should be an independent nation of both the Republic and the UK
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>>544909969
>Balkan federation of sorts
IT. WILL. NOT. WORK. why cant you guys let go of yugoslavia
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>>544905953
I don't understand either the EU and the PRC are both massive dystopian Technocratic states that crush their respective civilizations I figured they'd love each other.
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>>544909507
>My feudal lord made me a noble

FeudalLords get annexed (look at ukraine, they stayed indy cos they were forced tho')
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>>544909796
>“It would be the saddest sign of decadence if higher intellectual work could be obtained only through higher pay
very outdated ideas, thats why EU (4th reich) lags behind every other competitors

hitler used all capital that was accumulated by german nation during 1000 years of peaceful existance and wasted it in 1 war
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>>544905426
It's importing as many non-europeans as possible, bigot
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>>544910034
Funny, that one I actually feel the least firm on in particular, the geography and lack of ethnic homogeneity makes the region tough to unite unless it's against an outside force or an outside force directly rules over the region. But what do you propose?
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>>544910339
>what do you propose?
the current situation is fine except kosovo is serbia
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>>544905342
EU politicans primary goal is to destroy the last vestiges of the old roman empire so that jews can have a giggle.
All our problems stem from the fact that politicians do not fear their people anymore.
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No
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>>544905342
>infinity shitskins is a good thing

France would like a word
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>>544905342
>being chocked to death by ivory-tower burocrates in brussels is in everyones interest in europe

lmao
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>>544905342
Yes, but not in the way you think.
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>>544905342
Lol what bullshit.
GAYTO and the EU divided the balkans, divided Serbia and continue to divide every single nation that disagrees with their gay globohomo agenda.
Meanwhile China's policy is to just let every country live in peace in whatever way they choose to.
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>>544905559
Everyone in Europe speaks English.
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>>544905342
Sort of, but not really. Divide and conquer is done by flooding the country with foreigners. Having all the leadership centralized is only good if the leadership isn't controlled by kikes.
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>>544905342
EU brings us closer to NWO, one world government
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>>544905342
Yes, but the cattle that call themselves "Europeans" should be put down, we already have the borders that work for us. The only country that should be split is germany, without united germany Russia don't have a butt-buddy to fuck everyone else, and by themselves Russians can be contained.
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>>544905342
>Fourth Reich but in blue
Very Fuhrer-like.
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>>544911571
>Everyone in Europe speaks english
Lol. Lmao even.

The french don't.
The italians don't
The czechs won't
the germans can't
the spanish are inbred commies and lack the IQ to do so.
the portuguese do not even speak A language.
the romanians are way too retarded and are illiterate even in their own native language

These troglodytes are dubbing all of the movies in english into their own shitty language. They don't know english and also they don't know how to read a fucking subtitle.

I'm not talking about fags coming on /pol/ but about the demographics of this continent.

europenis-fags are a bunch of illiterate, retarded and arrogant animals.
Because of their incurable imbecility, the federalization of the E.U.S.S.R. and the attempt to turn it into "The United States of Europe" will absolutely never happen
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>>544905342
Chinks couldn't give a fuck if europe was united or balkanized harder
Vatniggers would rather annex everything, but would be fine with just ye old soviet borders
Amerigolems are the ones who really fucking want eufags dead and buried
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>>544909418
Nigger
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>>544908829
The eternally seething trashbin.
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>>544912598
>Amerigolems are the ones who really fucking want eufags dead and buried
This, on 2 fronts. Republicans want the EU dissolved, Democrats want the Nation States dissolved.
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>>544905342
>eurojeets in solidarity
>becomes 500% more brown
really makes one think
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>>544910596
This. EU is just a globalist new world order project.
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But the right hand side is in the interest of everyone living there. EU was supposed to be an economic union, not a chokehold to take in foreign replacement slaves or else you can't use the currency anymore.
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>>544905342

No, the progressive unification of Europe has brought weakness, poverty and irrelevance to the continent. Europe as a whole was much more powerful and relatively economically better off before EU than it is now
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>>544905342
only if you are a deranged socialist
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>>544905342
yes
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>>544909647
>but on the other hand they sell companies and permits to them on a whim.
it's curious how China gets everything from you guys but when Putin tried to buy Opel in 2009 suddenly nooooo cant give sekret 1990 car tech to dam ruskies they kill us all with it
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>>544905342
if you define "interest" as being too big to touch by likes of Russia then yes
and if interest is being self governing then no
there is no universal answer as for some people size provided security comes fist as for others they would feel their freedoms are impacted too much...
typical "Theres no good answer but bitching on EU" shill thread
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>>544905426
1. Paying Esau-Edom for a holocaust that did not happen. 2. Not being accused of racism. 3. Importing hordes of primordial beast creatures. 4. Selling out their own people.
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>>544905342
European here, little countries are infinite times better than globohomo-shitholes.

I hope that both EU and Spain collapsed, so I can live in my own Castilian-speaking Liechtenstein.
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>>544905342
The "Diplomatic Realists" such as Kissinger predicted that Europeans could never come together to have cohesive foreign policy, internal markets etc. He hated that the EU proved him wrong.
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>>544914472
You can tell which nations brown hands made this, judging by the size of Russia and Serbia alone.
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>>544910039
The US is too. The walls just haven't closed in on all of us yet. They will in time.
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>>544905342
the Dutch had already figured this shit out with the BENELUX deal in which there was free trade and military cooperation between belgium netherlands luxembourg before the EU was a thing; no political influence at all purely trade and mil. the EU is a globalist kike hellhole that takes the power away from the nation states, centralisation is easy to subvert then many local independent pieces of a bigger whole
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>>544907516
damn bro you let internet posts on 4chan influence your look on the world thsts crazy, when brothers insult eachother its out of love you effeminate cuck :)
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>>544905342
Russia and China might like the version on the right side better but for the US being able to bribe&blackmail just a couple hundred unelected bureaucrats instead of a dozen thousand of them is better
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>>544905342
Seems the left one imported a bunch of niggers and tries to turn your kids into non-breeding faggots.
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>>544905342
I actually agree.
Europeans have an history of making war to each other and we sure love some good banter but at the end of the day, I'd rather live together with a frog or a kraut than with Mohammed or Tyrone.
The EU would have been a great idea if it was implemented Better; sadly enough, jewish influences corrupted the original idea and here we are now
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>>544905342
EU keeps them all weak and poor.
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>>544917464
Centralized female bureaucracy did that.
Semite influence was the first go-round when you sacrificed 10 million to give them their homeland back.
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>>544905342
Of course it is.
World is ruled by superpowers and to lesser degree by great powers.
Divided Europe has no leverage over USA or China. If USA wants something they'll just force it.
Currently European Union is a bit weak.
On paper though if done right Europe can be a superpower on equal footing to USA and China.
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>>544917464
>eating turds would be a great idea if we polished them better
frog lovers get the rope
they're not even the same species as you, you disgusting freak
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>>544905342
>don't have to endure absurd taxation levels to make up for terroni wasting and embezzling billions every year
>all my tax money stays within 50 kms from me and I can benefit from it
>ruled by fellow high iq whites not inbred 90iq brownoids
anyone who wouldn't choose right is a cuck or a parasite
this would be a dream come true
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>>544905342
The first is the interest of dirty kikes and the second pic is the interest of people form europe against kikes and eurocrats.
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>>544917722
Done right it would be one hegemon leading the other nations as vassals or thralls. EU is powerless by design. Consensus seeking between non-equals is for women and Americans. Men lead the weak and follow the strong.
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which one has all the browns and blacks removed?
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>>544905426
Keep the Polaks out, the Germans in, and the Angloskikes down.
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>>544918042
Modern Europeans will never do this.
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>>544905426
We know what Europeans interests are,it's to love niggers like they're gods >>6258776
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>>544905426
>>>6258776
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>>544905342
That's what Oswald Mosley came to believe and I'm inclined to agree. Although obviously run in the interest of native Europeans rather than globohomo kikes.
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>>544905342
Every country would be better if they were turned back into their local counties/duchy/Earldoms.
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>>544905426
>>>/wsg/6258776
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>>544905342
Ukraine is a black hole for money. How would Ukraine in the EU be in the interest of Europeans?

Also why the fuck would you accept le ebil Belarus joining the EU but not le ebil Russia. At least the Russians have a ton of natural resources of exactly the types that the EU needs.
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>>544905953
Red scare boogeyman propagated by my federal government.
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>>544905426
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>>544905623
National-level governments are the driving force for the immigration policies in the EU
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>>544918469
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>>544914472
>>544916468
brown hands, because the assumption is that Muslims are the indigenous based on their claim that Adam was the first Muslim. since Adam was an Arab shitskin headbanging arselifter, all of the land was originally Islamic.

it's why the Muslims are on the "stolen land" wagon, since they view even the Amerindian tribes as colonizers who erased an Islamic past that began with Adam.
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>>544905342
actually.

the EU has not been designed to serve the interest of europeans, since it's a US tool to rule the european people without the european people.

it's so obvious that one may think that OP is mentally challenged.
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>>544905342
I don't understand what the meme is supposed to mean
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>>544913028
>flag
>post
what are you, a serb or a pidor? either way it's not looking good
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>>544905342

yuropoors will never unite. They have far too many grievances amongst each other and will always squabble about them in times of peace.
That is the forever curse of the wretched eurocunts.
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Hmm.. I wonder why big American corporations are pro-EU and Merz who was the chairman at Blackrock Germany is also pro-EU. And why does Europe use expensive western oil instead of Russian oil?
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>>544919046
What's with you forest Russians and sucking other men's dicks? Is that your national sport?
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>>544905426
Don't worry, someone will make the decision for you
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>>544919165
Imagine uniting with pseudo-human species like the Anglo and the Frog. Only a mutt would even consider that.
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>>544919338
I don't think Europe has that much investment in Ukraine, compared to the US...
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>>544905342
Left is just globalism. Not even Europeanism because complete non-Europeans have already invaded and been given full citizenship. Just look at France. It's never in your interest to let foreign tribes invade your territory.
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>>544905634
Libtards say they'd go back in time to kill Hitler, I'd go back in time to kill that guy.
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>>544905342
>>544905953
>>544918406
Yeah the eu is a us colony that's why
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>>544919556
Retinger was worse and more influential
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>>544918786
Yep we haven't been free since ww2
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>>544905342
The first might be OK if it had different Europeans running it.
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>>544912265
>Because of their incurable imbecility, the federalization of the E.U.S.S.R. and the attempt to turn it into "The United States of Europe" will absolutely never happen
WTF, I love retards now
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>>544905342
That image is correct but i still hate the pompous french.
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>>544905342
This is in the interest of Europeans.
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>>544919355
>t. diaspora pidor
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>>544920356
I would include Anatolia if we can depopulate such area of roaches first.
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>>544920833
Oh yeah, that was also Europe once.
It's nice to have the Dardanelles between us and arabs/kikes tho, once they're kicked out the Western shore.
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>>544905342
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>>544905342
Uhhhhh try again timmy.
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>>544905342
Nahaha, the EUSSR is in the interest of Globohomo only.
It would be very much in my interest if the Algarve became independent of Poortugal. We are making the money. The poor north is wasting it on parasites.
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>>544910596
Interest of faceless international jews*
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>>544905342
wtf i love soros and ursula now

kill yourself
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>>544920356
based
fuck libtardism and open border/society bullshit.
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>>544905342
They are the same picture.

EU with nation state sovereignty taken away is Europe of regions.
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>>544905342
quit posting this trash retard
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>>544919046
Kys
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>>544905953
hello vatnigger! ACKKKK
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one of my favorite times of history is that of the italian city-states around 12th-15th century. the time of merchant republics. more interesting political periods tend to come when things are divided. there's also the hanseatic league
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>>544926366
Based. Bring back the city states



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