I cast doubt on all claims made about the universe concerning things outside our solar system and events that allegedly occurred millions or billions of years ago. I don't consider light and radio wave analysis etc. sufficient tools for making such monumental claims with certainty.
>>544908348What else would they be?And when does the micronova get here?
>>544909041>What else would they be?i dont know.
the center of the earth is made of solid oxygenhydrogen is blown from solar winds into the planet which mixes very slowly over time with the solid oxygen of the core, creating waterthe earth is very slowly gaining water
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>>544909296and the moon is made of cheese
>>544908348to assume our sun is special, and that stars are something else, is anapplication of a form of the anthropic principle, which is in this case almost certainly guaranteed to be fallaciousmeine neger
>>544909385no way man that's absurd, rats would have claimed the moon by now
>>544908348Why care about it if it does not affect your life, might as well debate if god finds qeefs amusing
>>544909449>big word mumbo jumbo me so smartno. anthropic principle my ass. the sun looks and clearly behaves different than stars from our raw default perspective on earth. it takes extra assumptions and models to assume theyre the same.
>>544908348Agreed. Space is totally fake and gay. It's preposterous honestly. It doesn't even take much thought to discredit nearly all of it.
>>544908348So you think we are special?This is much more statistically unreasonable than saying there are a lot of objects like the sun but with different properties (like you would expect).
>>544909541The jews did though
Aren't radio waves dependant on air to travel?So how are they picking up radio waves when we are surrounded by vacuum?
>>544909671more and more scientists are admitting that our sun and planet are incredibly special and rare, and there likely isn't another planet with life like ours in the universe.
>>544908348>>544909041>>544909071>>544909344https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/468097822/#q468097822https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/493237701/#q493240664>>https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/468097822/#q468097822>>https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/493237701/#q493240664
>>544908348these same people believe God exists and created everything from nothing
>>544909671>So you think we are special?i dont know.>>544909671>This is more statistically unreasonable than saying there are a lot of objects like the sun but with different properties (like you would expect).false. u cannot infer any statistics - neither reasonable or unreasonable - without any extra assumptions/models such as the size of the universe or our importance. by default we see many light points in the sky at night and a big bright warm circle during the day, thats it.
>>544908348Science doesn't care about your insignificant take on it.
>>544909598why does it look and behave different?
>>544909864They are in a very specific point in a large statistical distribution of other, similar objects.As you measure more and more detail, things end up more unique naturally.Suggesting we are the only planet or have the only sun is completely different.
>>544910021>why does it look and behave different?sun makes you warm, is really hot and bright is visible only at day etc (from our direct perspective)
>>544909945Did you see that study that proposed the red shift is caused by polarity rather than by movement. If true it would mean the entire big bang and age and size of universe and everything derived from that is horse shit.
Some homeless guy told me "maybe were looking through something"Idk it was a funny thought
>>544908348stars beeing suns makes sense but claiming that black holes can be "infinite singularities" is complete bullsheet if you ask me. singularities do not exist irl only on paper because of math with 0sIm not a physicist its just my opinion after watching alot of videos and lectures.
>>544909851>So how are they picking up radio waves when we are surrounded by vacuum?they circumvented that problem by ditching the ether model and introducing the purely mathmatical "field" concept. philosophically speaking they never really resolved the problem
>>544909864I'm sure there is more life out there.Maybe not in this system but others definately.And maybe not as highly retardedly evolved as humans, but they have their biomes, they survive, they do their thing.
>>544909864We've only discovered like 6.5k planets out of literal trillions in our galaxy aloneThis isnt an answer we're likely going to get for another 500+ years
>>544909598nein, und nein
>>544909864They used to say that too.The whole universe had the Earth as its centre, and the moon and the sun were planetary bodies surrounding it.In that worldview, this was the case because we're special. I never read any other reason or justification for it.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xUHBJ5lLJfU&list
>>544908348Stars are balls of plasma.Their light comes from the phenomenon called "electrical arc discharge".So what actually determines a Stars location on the Hertzsprung Russell diagram is something entirely else, the HR diagram is a plot of actual observations, not something deduced from theory.Our Sun, being a fairly typical star, falls almost at the center of the diagram (at Luminosity = 1 and Absolute magnitude = 5, Spectral Class G, and (photospheric) temperature = 6000K).A major question is:>Why do stars tend to group themselves together in certain ways on this diagram?perhaps the most important factor in determining any given star’s characteristics is the strength of the current density in Amperes per square meter (A/m2) measured at that star’s surface.If a star’s incoming current density increases, the arc discharges on its surface (photospheric tufts) will get hotter, change color (away from red, toward blue), and get brighter.The absolute brightness of a star, therefore, depends on two things: the strength of the current density impinging into its surface, and the star’s size (the star’s diameter).Therefore, we add another scale to the horizontal axis of the HR diagram,>“Current Density at the Star’s Surface.”Consider moving from the lower right of the HR diagram toward the left.In so doing, we are moving in the direction of increasing current density measured at the surface of each star.The first region on the lower right of the diagram is where the current density has such a low value that the plasma surrounding the (anode) star is not driven into the normal glow mode of operation, let alone arc mode.
>>544908348What we have here anon is a "ball of magnetism" I imagine this ball is bubbling up in the high pressure area around the sun and then "surfaces" between the void and the universe or "space" - not based on anything necessarily but an idea- something like little blop theory.If you think of everything as energy and phases- everything we see is in-phase with our realities vibration.If light is a circuit, then stars are conduits of electrical connections- where is the magnetism going? Perhaps the nearest black hole? Are black holes, stars at 180 degrees out of phase? Are they balls of magnetism?These are things I wonder...
>>544910126A fire set a mile away isnt hot, visible (multiple miles for that) or bright. I guess that fire doesnt exist?>ok but we could go to that fire and see and feel the heatSo could we for extrasolar bodies, we just dont have the "legs" to get thereYour second point is just not understanding an orbit. If I hold a flashlight in your face and begin spinning around you with it, you cant see it anymore but maybe you CAN see the other flashlights I hung out in the trees a far distance away from us like little pinpricks of light you couldnt see when I was flashlighting you in the face
>>544909071>Makes claim, refuses to elaborate. Gets asked what else would they be? Says: i dont know. Leaves. Pure Chad.
>>544910556jews dont want you to know this but High intensity electric current passing through a plasma will take on the corkscrew (spiral) shape discovered by Kristian Birkeland.These Birkeland currents most often occur in pairs and tend to compress between them any material (ionized or not) in the plasma.This is called the “Z-pinch” effect. This is how Stars are created.basically how it works is that Electric currents create the galaxies and the stars within those galaxies via this electromagnetic Z-pinch effect.so it is a logical extrapolation to propose that these currents, once having formed the stars, continue to supply electrical energy to them.Galactic currents have low current densities (the number of Amps per square meter of the flow’s cross-section are low), but because the sizes of the stars are large the total stellar input current (total Amperage) to each of them is high.the Sun receives a fairly steady electrical input from the galactic currents that we now know exist in our Milky Way and other galaxies and the Sun sits at the focus of not only the orbits of each of its planets but also a huge plasma cloud, the Doublelayer/Heliosphere.Because of its size, the Sun has a large electric capacitance (ability to hold charge).This capacitance receives charge from cosmic currents that exist in our arm of the Milky Way galaxy.The Sun thus exhibits a relatively high voltage.Electrical power (in Watts) is equal to the product of voltage (in Volts) times current (in Amperes).and the Sun’s voltage, multiplied by the total value of the current coming toward it, is sufficient to produce the Sun’s observed power output. therefore conclusion is that the Sun/Stars are powered by its galactic environment, not from within itself.
>>544910330Decades of stargazing with telescopes in space and they finally bothered to find a star that shines green.I look forward to the inevitable purple and pink stars, and naturally the extremely gay star that shines all colours of the rainbow.
>>544908348We know Ahmed, you gave up on astronomy to be students of Zutt in the butt instead.
>>544910618Doesn't mean it actually is green.Could be white on the other end whos light is passing through a massive radiation field or particle cloud, like looking through colored glass, would make it appear green.Same goes for other stars which appear a different color like blue or red.
>>544910582>I guess that fire doesnt exist?strawman, i never said stars dont exist.>A fire set a mile away isnt hot, visible (multiple miles for that) or bright.in your thought experiment you already know that its a fire beforehand. but if you only saw the light you wouldnt know wether the light you see in the distance is a fire like the camp fire youre sitting in front of or wether its a lamp, an animal or something else entirely. you can only infer what it might be and mostly from the light you see itself. You dont seem to understand my argument.
We are confirmed in a simulation. Nothing is real. The Sim is run by humans that developed insane technology 200000 years ago.
>>544908348Stars are not suns. The sun is a star.
>>544909851What the fuck is solar wind bitch?
>>544910618>year is 2776>Americans have traveled 250yrs to liberate Fagus Solus star system>find pink and blue planet, land>find tribal 8ft tall muscle mommies>they all have knotted cocks
reminder:>1. The entire cosmos is permeated with plasma. In some regions (within a galaxy, within a solar system) the plasma is denser than it is in others. In some cases the plasma is visible, in some, not.>2. The electrical properties of plasma vastly outweigh its mechanical (gravitational) properties.>3. There is nothing mysterious about magnetic fields. They do not "get tangled up", "break", "merge", or "reconnect". They require moving charges (electric currents) in order to exist.>4. The relative distances between even the most densely packed stars are vast in comparison to those stars' diameters.>5. The homopolar motor - generator shape seems to be ubiquitous. Stars, pulsars, and galaxies are organized in this morphology.>6. The z-pinch effect that occurs in Birkeland currents (electrical currents that flow through plasmas) is responsible for the accretion of stars, planets, and galaxies.>7. It is quite possible that the solar system started out as a collinear array of "Herbig - Haro" type objects formed by a z-pinch.>8. The presumption that, if an object exhibits redshift, it must be far away - is false.>9. The Big Bang Theory is false. It has been defended in a most unscientific way.>10. There is a lot more electrical activity out there in the cosmos than astrophysicists seem to want to admit.>11. Astrophysicists and cosmologists need to take some courses in electrodynamic field theory and experimental plasma physics.>12. Astrophysicists need to stop acting in a "knee- jerk" confrontational way to any ideas involving electricity.>13. Astrophysicists should stop dreaming up impossible imaginary entities such as black holes, neutron stars, strange matter, WIMPs, MACHOs, and MOND, when a perfectly real and well understood body of knowledge stands ready to explain all the things that "mystify" them so.
>>544909071lmaodo people who "reason" like this actually exist?
>>544910162Found ithttps://arxiv.org/html/2008.02645v1
This should explain everythinghttps://youtu.be/OXypyrutq_M
>>544911018Solar wind isn't constant therefore cannot transfer radio wave indefinately.Especially if a certain such anomaly is giving off radiation of its own. Double bitch
>>544908348I cast Expelliarmus !!
>>544910829No, in the thought experiment all you know is that you see a light from extremely far away. Me using "a fire" is me describing a specific scenario and condition and probably could've been worded better but from the perspective of the viewer irl in that, all you see is a lightYour theory is that you dont know what it is The problem is we can use telescopes to see the closer ones, we can run spectrometers to see the elements being burned of those that arent close (like using a spectrometer to see what element a green fire is burning) and other pieces of evidence that all lead us to the conclusion that the light we see in the distance is a fire
>>544910196Stars being suns does seem logical, but dark matter and black hole dimensional rifts are hard to swallow with light and radio frequencies and “math” being our only tool
>>544911073redshift is not a purely kinematic doppler effect caused by space stretching.if you want to talk about observable properties, look at the work of Halton Arp regarding intrinsic redshift.he documented numerous cases of high redshift quasars that appear physically connected via plasma filaments to low redshift galaxies.if they are physically linked but have vastly different redshifts, then redshift cannot be a reliable proxy for distance or universal expansion.furthermore the Big Bang requires the addition of massive amounts of unobservable dark entities, Dark Matter to explain rotation curves and Dark Energy to explain accelerated expansion, just to keep the math from breaking.a "theory" that requires 95% of the universe to consist of invisible, undetectable placeholders is not an accurate prediction but just a series of epicycles used to patch a failing jewish paradigm.also plasma cosmology replaces these mathematical fudge factors with known electromagnetic phenomena:instead of Dark Matter, we use large scale Birkeland currents and magnetic confinement to explain galactic rotation.instead of Inflation we look at plasma instabilities and local energetic processes that account for observed redshift variations.the jewish consensus model survives on momentum and jew funding not because it explains the observations perfectly but because it has successfully categorized all contradictions as "New Physics" (like Dark Energy) rather than admitting the foundation is flawed.
>>544911018Pressure wave moving across a medium.Happens to carry charged particles from the corona.The sun farts and burps from time to time.
>>544910545>>544908348>>544909874>>544910545The universe maybe "expanding" but perhaps it's just how waves naturally expand over distance in mediums like water- the idea the universe is a vacuum- and there is no aether for wave propagation- in itself is likely a fallacy used to create mental math gymnastics with no basis in reality- to gain insight into something they cannot understand.Without a proper foundation to build theory upon- No such theory shall widthstand the test of time. Even if it "kinda works" When the point where the fine details matter and the equations fail to land in the margin of error- is when we will be questioning "what went wrong" and with enough people asking they will enventually fine a lesser margin of error.
>>544911203"We" in the sense of "I've never actually used a telescope or spectrometer, I just retell stories here"?
>>544911244>redshiftLong wavelengths go further than short wavelengths before inverse square lawing themselves into dissipation.
>>544911290>the idea the universe is a vacuumis retarded, see >>544911059
>>544911244Did you read the paper?
>>544909041>And when does the micronova get here?Fall of 2046 according to Diehold Foundation and Suspicious Observers. But we are due for a CME to knock out the grid by 2030 or something.
>>544911203>Your theory is that you dont know what it isMy position is that you cannot prove with certainty what it is, and that light analysis alone is insufficient to support the claims being made about the universe with such confidence (including the sun being a star).
>>544911071I don't know.
>>544909851>Aren't radio waves dependant on air to travel?No
>>544911423It mostly is, thus why it's very difficult to propel through.
>>544909851Visible light is a form of EM radiationRadio waves are a form of EM radiationVisible light can move through a near-vacuum in a light bulb.Therefore; radio waves can move through a near-vacuum in space.
>>544911036>The American give the aliens blankets to help them in the cold of the alien night>those blankets had highly virulent pathogens on them>oh no we almost wiped out another native group>American Jews make holo-movies about how sad it made us to genocide them>200 years later the few natives that are left are allowed to run casinos on their own reservations
>>544911554Light is not electro magnetic and does interact with EM at all. Otherwise magnets would be able to bend it's travel path. retard.
>>544911436yes what about it? that guy proposed an untested physical mechanism while Halton Arps work is based on actual observations.we know redshift as jews sell it is bullshit since 1987.
>>544911695Doesn't*
>>544909449The Copernican principle suffers from survivorship bias, making it also fallacious.You have to explain *why* in this context, the Copernican principle wins out over the anthropic principle, which you did not do, you basically just said "dude trust me bro."
>>544911695Light Is electromagnetic radiation, see maxwell's equations and the electromagnetic wave equation in particular. Electric fields and magnetic fields interact with charged particles, if light has no charge then it wouldn't be bent by some other EM field.
>>544911695You should work on correcting this commonly held mischaracterization of what light is then, doublenigger.
>>544909945Its a statistical fact your name is mohammed
>>544909041>And when does the micronova get here?they used to say 2028-2032 but now it's supposedly 2042. poleshift is still only halfway done.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1OClNvDg2o>>544910556
>>544912103LoLWhat a retarded theory.If light had any interaction with magnetism then just looking at a magnet would make it appear blurry in your eyes.
>>544909864They literally don't know shit
>>544912292So if charged particles interact with external EM fields (Lorenz force) and light doesn't, what would that imply about light?
>>544912528That its just wavelengths which are NOT influenced by magnetism at all.
>>544912783Yep, light doesn't interact with external fields generally, which doesn't contradict Maxwell's equations.
>>544909541And they'd be cheesed to meet us.
