>be me>work 40 hours a week>still can't afford a house>consoom product>repeat until deathComrades, when will you wake up?
OST for the thread:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_WxGYHZloU
Only one cure for capitalism
>>544924390based comrade
>>544924411https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_k-6Lt8QNDo
>>544923812gradeschool when the teachers would try to debunk communism by saying it "killed more people in history than any ideology" but only if you start counting the year they want and only if deaths during war or famine count for one ideology and no other.
>>544924661They don’t teach communism in grade school. It’s barely covered in hs you retarded gay lying evil bitch
>>544923812when i learned my parents and their grandparents were tithing 10% of their paychecks well after their retirements to a christian NGO that lobbies for israel. i'm too blackpilled to get them to stop it i don't even consider them human anymore
>>544924661Did those teachers have a funny nose?
Communists claim economics is fake it isn’t. Let me make it easy for you children. Think about how supply and demand effects the price of you’re favorite Pokémon card. Communism has no answer to this or to anything truly
>>544923812>flood country with niggers>surprised labor is cheap now>continues sucking nigger cocks and keeping blinders on about the nigger problemThat's OP, he's a faggot.
>>544924894>to Isreal, instead of saving it for their childrenI personally believe your parents and grandparents should be shot in a gulaghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26cr_rBQu74
>>544924897You’re beloved Marx was a kike who invented communism to enslave the goys. So was Lenin and Trotsky and most of them
This is now a Soviet marches threadhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=6fzsQt6hz6A
>>544924981You just described Crapitalism, what were you trying to achieve with this?
>>544925035Niggers love communism. It’s pure destruction for no reason
>>544925074Goys can become rich and powerful under capitalism not communism. Stupid jewboy stop hiding your flag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cr30YAnwCnIAmerican civilian parade in 2029 (colorized)
>>544925074Stop making faggot threads, mr. Crapitalism
>>544924074If you're a tankie you literally want the same thing just with more repression and less consumer goods. If you were an actual socialist you wouldn't masturbate to the soviet union in the first place
>>544925018Well I can claim the same about Jesus (Yeshua)
When capitalists started mass immigration of foreigners to undercut and replace their own people. But I have flipped the other way now I have a passive income. I think all the working people who are probably capitalists deserve to get replaced by gays browns Muslims etc I think maybe even deep down some of them actually want this because they can't all be retarded to keep voting in ppl who hate them. but for to make the retarded ones seethe I vote for the brownest gayest most Muslim or foreign neoliberals candidates I can
>>544925142>Goys can become rich and powerful under capitalismPost your nose, now
>>544925098Communism leads to glory and triumphhttps://youtu.be/L6MuBslefto
>>544925276Communism? That looks more like Brapunism
>>544923812It didn't fail the people because it was never designed to serve the people. It was designed to serve the Capitalist class hence why it's called Capitalism. Socialism - the clue is the name, Society, is the opposite.
>>544925276Communists understand that the proletariat isn’t just liberated materially but also spiritually, in a sense. Victory, triumph, and defense of the revolution is central. This is why the Soviet Union was the pinnacle of socialist glory, liberation, and power.https://youtu.be/U06jlgpMtQs
>>544925098Like Thomas Sankara? He was murdered by CIA assets unfortunately.Sucks that in America, Niggers hate communism, they only love L*beralism
>>544925542based
>>544923812There's no utility in trading being a debt peon in a capitalist system for being a literal slave in a Communist one.>>consoom productMarxism is a materialist ideology. It stated it would provide abundance, and then didn't. I know people that grew up in the Soviet Union; people were "consooming product" in the Soviet Union too, they just didn't have the same selection, or the same standards of quality. People would steal things from their place of work to sell on the grey market to purchase other things on the grey market. The state apparatus was just a giant tumor which claimed one thing, couldn't provide, and then had no choice but to let people engage with market activity to fill the gap. You only get to make the anti-materialist/anti-consumerist argument if you're advocating an anti-materialist ideology. Marxism is not that.>When did you realize that crapitalism had failed the people?When I was 13. But how would you solve the supply problem?>>544924661The difference between one ideology and another alters the conditions. For example: in the Soviet Union, the great famine, or the great leap forward in china: individual people weren't realistically allowed to grow their own food because their farms had been collectivized by force. Therefore the responsibility was on the Soviet/Chinese state and more specifically the Communist Party. If there is a famine in a non-Marxist-Socialist state, it is only ever the fault of the system, or the economic model, in the rarest occasions (e.g the forced stockpiling of agricultural products in India during the second world war by the British colonial authorities). The rest of the time, it's not a systemic issue.
>>544925668https://youtu.be/NsJQiH-W1rE
>>544925816I like you...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uDp4k0Oo9whttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFPIlpuGOpMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCMmjJyGY5U&pp=ygUNa29taW50ZXJubGllZA%3D%3Dhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glyENsXbcVQcomrades..
>>544923812Have you tried working a better paying job? Or consoooming less?
>>544926411>Have you tried eating cake?
>>544925369any pictures of her big red star?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFoEmJPrls4If not for billionaire scum hoarding the wealth and dividing the people we could've been out colonizing the galaxy, how about that
>>544924957The answer to it is to ban pokemon cards, mass execute any grown adult who collects them and base the notion of economic value on real productive capacity rather than artificially scarce Pikachus marketed to virgins and autistic people.
>>544925074We don't live under capitalism, we live under judaism. Communism is just a slightly different flavor of judaism, and no China isn't communist, they are National Socialist (the big scary mean Nazis that jews taught you to hate because they won't let you fuck dudes in the ass).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rVQcQOqIjQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdTWg3rsddIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=300qdyhHehEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiLvLB_NtOAHighly underrated channel btwPlease listen, subscribe and request your own songs!
Communism always fails though. You lose asshole. Perhaps you should kill yourself instead of attempting to make others just a miserable as you.
>>544923812sounds like america.
>>544927214No faustian spirit in this nigga. Why not just rope and give up
>>544923812We don't have capitalism.
>>544926411>Have you tried working a better paying job?Can't thanks to crapitalist and their Kalergi plan>Or consoooming less?I barely consume anything except for food and heating
>>544927073>>544927273>It's not real capitalism!
>>544927073
>>544923812Get a job loser
>>544927073Capitalism is the economic manifestation of Judaism. Communism is the single most anti-rent seeking and anti-usury ideology that has ever existed in all of human history. It is fundamentally opposed to the Jew, even if no communist will ever admit to it. The same way that communism has historically been better at nationalism than the people who label themselves nationalists but who ultimately cuck their nations to globohomo and the (((international banking apparatus))). You're only both sidesing this because you ultimately what your nation and every other to be devoured by the international serpent of Jewish dominated financial capitalism. Doesn't matter if you realise it or not.
>>544927271Nah that's something for you guys to do. I like laughing at all you commie glazers, besides I need some legit target practice. You pasty white people will be good for that. You can run but you cant hide.
>>544927935>just slave for Mr. Shekelberg while he destroys your people and countryYeah... I'm just not gonna do that Mr. Longnose>>544926502>muh ponyI didn't know the NKVD were THIS based
>>544923812Things are actually fine here, shitskin commie faggot.
>>544928226>LGBT flagofc the L*beral kike worshipping faggot comes to the aid of this Crapitalist masters
>>544923812When I realize wage growth has been depressed since the 1980s while the cost of living has gone up like clockwork.
>>544928398I have a home and live in a place you can't even afford to visit. Get fucked you dirty nigger. Go starve in a Cambodian death field kike.
>>544928530It seems faggotism truly is a capitalist perversion
>>544928077It's clear to which class your allegiance is
>>544925692It's hard to provice abundance when the CIA is waging an undercover war on your society and destroying crops.
>>544928578Still have more toys and comfy living compared to you, filthy shitskin.
>>544928654Not for long, kulak
>>544928654>I don't care that I pay $1200 a month to live in a broom closet as long as I have shiny bing bing wahoo.You really are a faggot.
>>544928722I can't wait to kill you communist faggots like I did sandniggers in fallujah. You are a fat failure and I will enjoy erasing you.
>>544928066it's technically the economic manifestation of Calvinism which is similar and imo worse than Judaism
>>544925074>>544927073We live under a corporatocracy
>>544928743No. I own a home outright because I'm not some poor fag bitch failure in life. You hate capitalism because you are lazy, brown, and low IQ.
thanks calvin
>>544923812>when did I wake up? I have been a communist since I was 9 or 10. I have read Engel's, Marx, Lenin, Mao, etcetera...>when will you wake up? My question is this how do we as Marxists deal with the dialectical materialism of race? Asians and Jews are 100IQ+, whites are 100IQ, Latinos are 90IQ, Indians are 75IQ, and blacks are 65IQ. This shows up in disparate cultural and societal structures. How do you think we can build a communist society when people at 90 IQ or lower cannot understand counterfactuals i.e. hypothetical situations?>Eric S. Raymond asserts: "at IQ 90 and downward people start having real trouble handling counterfactual conditionals"
>>544923812>tfw communists constantly try to create a false binary between themselves and capitalism>Even tho only one of the two has ever actually functionedCapitalism defeated communism, THEN failed, and so the next thing will be a variant on capitalism.Protip: Stop trying to resurrect a failed system, and focus on "taking what worked and getting it into the next system".Also, you should think of the hammer and sickle as if it was a swastika. Why you still doing that stupid shit?
>>544924074>OST for the threadBackground picture is of a Studebaker US6 truck based rocket artillery,a reminder that Soviet Union only survived WW2 because of the lend lease from (capitalist) western allies.A fact also admitted by Zhukov and Stalin both.Fortunately that communist shithole still collapsed half a decade later.
>>544928973I own 3 homes outright and am a landlord. I am also a communist. I have a WAIS 5 IQ of 143. You are a cuck for the capitalist class. I own my own labor and own my own company. I am not a wagie to any man.
private banking parasitism is unironically the problem
>>544929517Haha cool story, now put the coffee into the cup and take a macroeconomics class nigger.
>>544923812>Comrades, when will you wake up?The black pill is that it has to get so bad that people are willing to die for the chance at something better. And that means 20+ years of slowly degrading bullishit.
>>544923812Fascism is the answer.
>>544923812While I was in workforce for 4 years when I had to follow orders from clowns for clownery which wasn't leading to anything.
>>544929316Capitalism never worked in feudal societies the technology and social environment made it impossible for capitalism to work. Luckily technology and social attitudes change over time yes? So eventually we can and must move past capitalism.
Capitalism was built by whites for whites to flourish. It was meant for hard working educated white people, not you parasite brown niggers to muck it all up.
>>544929916Then why did white capitalists import millions of foreign (even hostile) brown hordes to replace them?
>>544929916>hard working educated white people
>>544929727If communism is non-functional, fascism is just self-destructing.Think of it this way: YES, you can reject the brotherhood of all souls and just fight for loyalty to your blood. Most people in history have been doing that.But when you really get the "meta" of that as refined as the fascists did, YES that translates into earthly power, BUT this consequently just makes you "The strongest contender in a battle-royale", and so (like the nazis) you logically get dog-piled.Its like... its a strategy that makes you the "strongest", but is just dogshit for the actual game of Earth.>>544929781There was no capitalism before private property rights.Every society before that was consumed with the "hold-up problem", and real, lasting developments had to mostly involve the government on some level.People really REALLY underestimate how shitty it was to live under nobles who could just do whatever.
>>544923812You still think we have capitalism. The Jew rubs his hands whilst the goyim still fight over irrelevant nonsense, all the whilst the Jew enslaves us all totally unopposed.The modern world operates under Judaism. The Jewish financial instruments are the foundation of the modern economy. Real economic activity is ancillary.
>>544929635Fag, your reading comprehension must be abysmal.
>>544930039You mean jews?
>>544930183The logical end-result of capitalism
>>544930256You don't even realize you forfeit your property rights under communism you starbucks emo faggot.
>>544930371So what? You get it back tenfold from the billionaires in public works
>>544930145>People really REALLY underestimate how shitty it was to live under nobles who could just do whatever.Who is stopping capitalists from doing whatever? Have you ever looked in a history book and read about the Pinkertons and such? When is the last time a CEO has faced real consequences for doing something illegal?>Every society before that was consumed with the "hold-up problem"There was no such problem in the eyes of a king or a noble. The purpose of a system is it's outcome which in the case of feudal society is to uphold the authority of the kings and the lords.
>>544930308Republican business owners. Especially Republican farmers
>>544930371Your formulation commits a rudimentary category error by conflating the theoretical abolition of private property (productive capital) with the negation of personal possession (consumer use-values). The dialectical mandate necessitates the socialization of the means of production, rendering your critique a logically vacuous, bourgeois strawman.
>>544930308some of them are jewsalas, most of them are autochtonous
>>544924878Maybe in what ever low socioeconomic shit hole you went to but I had an entire semester on different governing ideologies and even did an assesment that involved coming up with my own. Obviously we all came up with some idealistic bullshit that would never work when exposed to humans (ie some form of meritocracy...kek)
>>544930145>communism is non-functionalCommunism was the first functional system. All prehistoric tribes were effectively Anarchist Communes.
>>544930530Capitalism is the privately owned means of production, regulated by a set of democratically empowered, federal enforced financial policies that ensures the existence of a free and open market, wherein; the producers of goods are forced to compete for the capital of the buyers of goods and not the other way around
>>544930673Its dishonest and/or ignorant to try and conflate centrally-planned industrial communism with naturally occurring tribal "systems" that really amounted to "arraignments".Again, you need to stop focusing on shit that's already failed, and focus on "getting what worked into the NEXT system".Communism and capitalism are only this great binary in the eyes of communists.For capitalism (and history) communism was a stepping stone.Going back just means we're delaying moving on.
>>544930351Capitalism does not imply ones monetary system being based entirely on fraud and counterfeiting.
>>544928638The CIA came into being after World War 2, the Great Famine was in 1932-1933. What the fuck are you talking about? No it's difficult to provide abundance when the people who set crop quotas and the people responsible for farm management have no fucking idea what they are doing.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism
really if we cant agree on wether people starved under communism on purpose or wether it was a problem with the incentives farmers had then there is no point in debating. my mom seems pretty sure it was the first as if it were a fact. i think its the latter. makes plenty of sense that a farmer that gets his crops taken away wont farm very hard. they also tolerated private farms. they did try to win people over.
>>544930892>Its dishonest and/or ignorant to try and conflate centrally-planned industrial communismI wasn't, anarcho communism is what I was referring to.>Going back just means we're delaying moving on.I am not advocating for going back. I know that going back is impossible just from a historical materialist perspective the conditions that allowed a soviet style centrally planned authoritarian state do not exist and may never exist again nor am I saying that that system or conditions were desirable. But if you consider the ideal of communism, the classless moneyless society, that is worth pursuing and a logical end goal for the majority of humanity. To get there clearly we need to adopt more socialist economic policies. And curb the power of capital and eventually destroy it.
>>544931636well yeah kind of the material conditions for soviet communism do not exist because its no longer a farmer with a scythe its a gps driven tractor.
>>544931636>consider the ideal of communism, the classless moneyless society>that is worth pursuing and a logical end goal for the majority of humanity."Ideals" of this kind are a reduction of the larger idea of "Good", and in this case, its a big reduction.Specifically, you've gotten off-track from "fairness" and fallen into idolizing "equality".Equality is categorically UNjust.People do not DESERVE the same. Justice is giving what is deserved, and Mercy is giving better than that, but equality is giving AND taking in service to an "ideal" that truly serves nobody.The real key is to create a working system by taking the principles of the world as it is (the base world), and making them "softer".This already happened with capitalism, which operates on lots of "jungle logic". But companies having a merger is much less violent that one animal eating another.That system can be further softened. Make MORE "pro-human".
>>544932225You are guilty of trying to "go back" now the idea of pro-human capitalism is just trying to reset to the 50's and 60's>Specifically, you've gotten off-track from "fairness" and fallen into idolizing "equality".I've have not. I don't know where you got that idea.
>>544933525>I've have not. I don't know where you got that idea.Why would it be good to have no money?Why would it be good to have no classes?Because those are sources of inequality.Are you promoting these "ideals" without even processing their purpose?OF COURSE that shit is all about equality.>You are guilty of trying to "go back" now the idea of pro-human capitalism is just trying to reset to the 50's and 60'sIf that was an idea that existed at one point, then it was just a name.As in, an ACTUAL case of "nobody's tried it", contrasted with communist cope.
>Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels believed that an international proletarian revolution would bring about a socialist society which would then eventually give way to a communist stage of social development which would be a classless, stateless, moneyless, humane society erected on common ownership of the means of production and the principle of "From each according to their ability, to each according to their needs". Marxism rejected egalitarianism in the sense of greater equality between classes, clearly distinguishing it from the socialist notion of the abolition of classes based on the division between workers and owners of productive property
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>>544923812u suck lol thats all there is to it. fuck off commie and kys
>>544924390dead commies... ty
>>544928810>I can't wait to kill you communist faggots like I did sandniggers in fallujah. thers a long list of us who want that, get in line, we kill commies has been our lifes work for decades
>>544934913*pew*
>>544923812I thought this too. Then I used my critical thinking abilities and opened my eyes and realized it wasn’t capitalism that was failing. It was the expanding social welfare nets and mass migration of 3rd world dependents that was crashing the system. Capitalism brought me all the cool shit like IPhones, JDAMS, Internet and AI, while social programs just took my money and gave it to the losers and parasites in exchange for votes.
>>544935481the internet was literally developed by the government you retard
>>544925495Socialism is designed to sell you a lie in exchange for power. Once the power is obtained the lie doesn’t matter anymore because the state has the power to give or take anything from you.
>>544925542Yeah, they were also liberated financially and economically and repressed under the boot of the state. Communism fails because it cannot compete with free markets.
>>544928518When you adjust for inflation, wages have generally increased since the 1980s, along with median household income and overall living standards. While certain expenses, particularly housing, healthcare, and education, have risen faster than wages, many consumer goods have become more affordable relative to income. The real issue isn’t that wages have been stagnant or purchasing power has universally declined, but that wage growth has been uneven and hasn’t kept pace with productivity gains or certain major living expenses. Think about it. How many features does your car have that a car in the 1980’s didn’t? How many things do you pay for monthly that people didn’t in 1980? You’re broke because you nickel and dime yourself to death with the fruits of capitalism. And you’re probably a lazy fuck with no ambition. Not capitalisms fault. Other than it left you in the dust because you couldn’t keep up and want someone else to pull you along.
Communism is a political and economic ideology whose goal is the creation of a communist society, a socioeconomic classless order centered on common ownership of the means of production, distribution, and exchange that allocates products in society based on need. A communist society entails the absence of private property and social classes, and ultimately money and the state
>>544935577Yeah, in its most basic form. Which is where it’d still be if capitalist markets didn’t make it into what it is today. The government never saw its full potential. I’m sorry basic economics eludes you. It amazes me there are still people talking about communism and socialism in this day and age. Truly backward thinking morons.
I never “realized it”Because it wasn’t capitalism that failedIt was cronyism and corruption (which is not capitalism exclusive)Too many psychos and evil people have been allowed to climb the corporate ladder and destroy things from the top down, starting with that unambiguously evil court ruling between Dodge vs Ford
A few days ago when decomping video games became limited at the service of big corpo. Realized that we actually owned the means of production for a while at it was golden.
>>544923812when did you realize jewish capitalism and jewish communism were two sides of the same jewish coin?when jews staged the cold war to stress test these two jewish systems of governance to see which goy slaves would work themselves to death the longest, they in the end opted for jewish capitalism.so disastrous was electing a christcuck to lead and his subsequent decision to hand jews control of the money supply, that even jewish communism wouldve been preferable to having every generation working twice as hard for half as much as the previous generation, and every subsequent generation working twice as hard for half as much as the current generation has right now
Yeah, the labor theory of value and dialectical materialism are just fundamentally raped and wrong. Also, the assumption of shared material circumstances inducing some kind of 'collective class altruism' as a primary motivator for people's actions is completely asinine
>>544937628Never tried real capitalism
>>544930673>All prehistoric tribes were effectively Anarchist Communes.If you define anarcho communism so broadly that prehistoric tribes count, then if you're being fair and defining capitalism equally broadly then they were also anarcho capitalist. Prehistoric peoples appeared to have some conception of property norms.
>>544926411>>544924411>>544924518>>544924878>>544924894OP is a chinktheyre trying to bainwash the entire west into self destructionwhere do you think the socialist propaganda comes from?
