Zersetzung: the active application of psychological destabilisation procedures by the State apparatus.This roughly translates to English as, “Biodegredation.”
>>544936361>“The East Germans knew, of course,>that they were surrounded by informers,>in a totalitarian regime that created mistrust>and a state of widespread fear,>the most important tools to oppress people>in any dictatorship.>That's why not many East Germans tried>to fight against the Communist regime.>If yes, the Stasi often used a method>which was really DIABOLIC. (emphasis added)>It was called Zersetzung,>and it's described in another guideline.>The word is difficult to translate because it means>originally "biodegradation.">But actually, it's a quite accurate description.>The goal was to destroy secretly>the self-confidence of people,>for example by damaging their reputation,>by organizing failures in their work,>and by destroying their personal relationships.”-Hubertus Knabe, https://www.ted.com/talks/hubertus_knabe_the_dark_secrets_of_a_surveillance_state/transcriptThese tactics, referred to accurately as “diabolic”, have been used since time immemorial to control and repress individuals and populations. The very word “diabolic” in the Greek , διάβολος (Strong’s Concordance G1228), literally means a FALSE ACCUSER or SLANDERER. This is listed as one of the names of Satan (which means adversary) in Revelation 12:19. Here we concern ourselves with the biblical application of this evil. Many of our brothers and sisters in Christ have been subjected to these tortures. Upon examination, we find that our Lord Jesus Christ Himself suffered them as well.“Zersetzung methods were designed to break down, undermine, and paralyze people behind "a facade of social normality" in a form of "silent repression".”https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zersetzung
>>544936668The devil has clearly devised this method to utilize the world (the system of civilization in which we live in the flesh) against those who threaten his rule. As Jesus warns us, our enemies will be those whom we thought were friends and loved ones. Mathew 10:21, “And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.” There is nothing new under the sun.We will examine some of the ways in which these practices were used against Jesus while He walked among us.Jesus was accused of being a bastard. His family was shamed and his mother accused of whoring with a Roman soldier, as referenced in John 8:41, and He was not accounted to be part of Joseph’s family, as He was referred to as “the son of Mary” in Mark 6:3. This is in clear contradiction of the Word of God, as He was legally considered to be a son of Joseph, the rightful heir to the throne of Israel, as illustrated in the genealogy in the first chapter of Matthew. His miraculous origin as the son of a virgin is also recorded here.Jesus was accused of doing the work of Satan in the casting out of demons, in Matthew 12:24; Mark 3:22; and Luke 11:15. This incident is where Jesus illustrates the folly of a kingdom being divided against itself in his rebuke of his enemies. To this day, they still fail to understand that by attacking their fellow citizens, they are, in the end, only working toward their own destruction.Jesus was accused of being a glutton for doing the opposite of John the Baptist and consuming wine, while they had accused John, who abstained, of also being possessed by a devil. This is recorded in Luke 7:33-35. Regardless of how He lived His life, Satan would accuse Him of wrongdoing.
>>544936361Useful links:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zersetzunghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_torturehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwave_auditory_effecthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_harassmenthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thought_insertionhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gang_stalking
>>544936822Jesus’s followers feared being publicly associated with Him, even though they believed Him when He claimed to be the Messiah. Two members of the Sanhedrin are recorded of doing this, Joseph of Arimathaea (Matthew 27:57-60; Mark 15:42-47; Luke 23:50-56; and John 19:38-42) and Nicodemus (John 3:1-21; 7:40-53; 19:38-42), who knew that Jesus was the one the Jews should have welcomed, but still they kept at a distance for fear of isolation.Jesus was illegally and unjustly prosecuted. They worked under the cover of darkness to kidnap, falsely accuse, and murder Him. He was tried numerous times during the middle of the night, before finally being Crucified after the Jews threatened to accuse Pilate before Caesar for failing to put down a rebel king. (1st in John 18:12-14, 19-23 by ANNAS, 2nd in Matthew 26:57-68; Mark 14:53-65; Luke 22:54, 63-65; John 18:24 by CAIAPHAS, 3rd in Matthew 27:1; Mark 15:1; Luke 22:66-71 by the SANHEDRIN, 4th in Matthew 27:1-2, 11-14; Mark 15:1-5; Luke 23:1-7; John 18:28-32, 33-38 by PILATE, 5th in Luke 23:6-12 by HEROD, 6th in Matthew 27:15-23; Mark 15:6-14; Luke 23:13-22; John 18:39-19:6 again by PILATE, and 7th in Matthew 27:16-26; Mark 15:7-15; Luke 23:18-25; and John 18:40 as the JEWISH PEOPLE themselves openly condemn Him to death.) Though all sought to avoid responsibility for the murder, ultimately the Jews were forced to claim it in order to complete it.
>>544936994Along the way to the cross, Jesus was scourged (Matthew 27:26, Mark 15:15, and John 19:1), forced to bear the cross, the very instrument of His punishment (John 19:16-17, Matthew 27:31-33, Mark 15:20-22, and Luke 23:26-32), then was nailed to that cross, forced to remain attached to the stigma they chose to inflict on Him (Mark 15:24), mocked Him as He bore this unjust judgment (Matthew 27:41-43), and though offered the uniquely Roman mercy of wormwood laced posca before being nailed to the cross, He refused (wine and gall in Matthew 27:34), then the Jews gave vinegar, which He did receive, to aggravate His thirst, as He called out to His Father, instead of showing Him the slightest mercy (Matthew 27:46-48; Mark 15:35-36; John 19:28-30).After His crucifixion, they continued to lie about Jesus. Though they took measures to prevent the denial of His death and burial, by the sealing of the tomb (Matthew 27:62-66), then they did act to deny His resurrection to prevent others from seeing the light of salvation by bribing the guards to lie about what happened at the tomb (Matthew 28:11-15).
>>544937118These evil tactics are still used today against the followers of Jesus Christ. In the Soviet Union, evangelical Baptists were imprisoned and forcibly drugged as ‘sluggish schizophrenics’ (Repressive Psychiatry as a Means of Combating Religious Dissidents in the Soviet UnionDissidents in the Soviet Union https://digitalcommons.georgefox.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2353&context=ree)This is not a form of oppression reserved only for Christians, or only for religious views. “Gangstalking”, the modern term, used both to describe the situation and to further ridicule victims, is the modern manifestation. People are called crazy, they are called anti-social, they are denied jobs, housing, even bank accounts. This is a very evil thing, and most modern governments commit these crimes against their own citizens. The are always brushed off as being delusion or coincidence, and the victims falsely accused of being mentally unstable. These tactics are made to mirror the appearance of mental problems for this very reason.
>>544937200Our war is a spiritual war. >2 Corinthians 10:3-6, >For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh: For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds; Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ; And having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled.We are ALL in this war, whether the hired shepards acknowledge it or not. We are told to resist such evil when we meet it in the world, not to ignore it, or to participate in it by slandering our brothers and sisters who bear this cross.>James 4:7-10, >Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded. Be afflicted, and mourn, and weep: let your laughter be turned to mourning, and your joy to heaviness. Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up.REPENT OF YOUR PRIDE AND SLANDER IF YOU HAVE DONE THIS TO YOUR FAMILY!PRAY FOR YOUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS!THIS IS A WAR YOU ARE IN, NOT A POT LUCK; WAKE UP!
To be honest, OP, the religious stuff is not helping the cause. By associating this problem with religion people will reject the truth of the problem when they, a they often do, reject the truth of religion. It's a case of "throwing the baby out with the bath water."
>>544937440By refusing the solution, you perpetuate the problem.People reject Truth willfully.If they throw out the baby, they had no intention of keeping the bath water to begin with. They simply wish to ignore anything that might relieve them of their ignorance.To have the audacity to say that religion is more outlandish than this very topic is one of the most ignorant statements I have heard on /pol/ ever.
>>544937440Oh to noone's shock the Aussie flag was a shill. Everything about this includes God. Who do you think we are being stalked by? Demons. If you don't agree with that fuck off
>>544937898In my own experience, I began being targeted when I left Christianity and became a communist. Christians or the religious aren't the only people being targeted. Many atheist political dissidents have been targeted throughout history, as have many members of other religions. You're mudding the waters by so closely associating this phenomenon with Christianity.
>>544937963>Christians and Communists agree that something is evil.>>544938231>I began being targeted when I left Christianity and became a communist.If ever there were a thing that is evil, gangstalking must be it.
>>544937963It's technological. They're humans with secret, state-backed technology, not spirits.
>>544938231>I am a communistLol holy shit look at this edgy fuck. No wonder why you are anti religion. I bet you are still pissed mommy and daddy made you go to mass every Sunday morning as a kid hahahhaha.
>>544938483I'm not anti-religion, I'm an eastern syncretist. I just don't think associating zersetzung with religion is the best way to convince the public.
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>>544938605Thank you for confirming the Australian flags that spam "migger" are pathetic communist larping edgetards like yourself
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslightinghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deception
>>544938457>It's technological.What technology, EXACTLY, inspired this practice?>>544938605>best way to convince the public.Who do you think you are convincing to begin with?I know the public is never going to accept any of this, religious or technological.How that fact has escaped you is beyond me.The very act itself is DESIGNED to create doubt about the sanity of the people who claim to be afflicted by it!One might say that it is a feature of the technology.>>544939439What unafflicted individual have these wikipedia pages convinced of the evils of zersetzung?We are both preaching to the choir here, whether you realize it or not.
>>544936361> ZersetzungLook at what ASIO did to environmental campaigners in the 70s. It was worse than the Stasi
>>544937200> evangelical Baptists were imprisoned and forcibly drugged as ‘sluggish schizophrenicsEvangelicals are schizophrenic tho
Daily reminder the only people who unironically use the phrase "gaslighting" are leftist kikes from reddit. No one that posts here says that
>>544939625>What technology, EXACTLYOnly the people who have access to it would know, but many have speculated. It appears to be a combination of AI and micro or radio waves, or maybe nanomachines. What's more likely, that an advanced piece of technology exists, or demons? Technology is known to exist, demons are not. The Zersetzung article itself refers to the potential technologies.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed-energy_weapon>I know the public is never going to accept any of thisYou don't know that. That's a defeatist attitude. Members of my family have believed me. Other people online who have not been targeted themselves have shown a willingness to believe. It's not a lost cause. People will believe if you present them a believable narrative. Conflating this phenomenon with religion doesn't help.Listen, I like religion, too. I turn to it often as a reprieve from the evils of life. Marx said, "religion is the sign of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world." I believe it's a good thing. But it's easier to convince people of dissident suppression without reference to it. This is a political issue, not a religious one.
>>544940757>Marx saidThis is the Australian that spams migger threads ladies and gentlemen. Screencapping this so no one takes you fucks seriously anymore
>>544940924>This is the Australian that spams migger threads ladies and gentlemen.No, I'm not. Believe it or not, there is more than 1 Australian on this board.
>>544940757>This is a political issue, not a religious one.It is a political issue.It was a political issue when it was used against Jesus.It is a political issue used against innocent people today.It will continue to be a political issue as long as governments use it to abuse their populations.>What technology, EXACTLYNice misquote.Now answer the entire question.>What technology, EXACTLY, inspired this practice?What technology placed this DIABOLIC idea in the hearts of men?
>>544941720Look, I like your thread. I like what you're doing. I've said my piece, I'm not going to argue with you. If this is how you want to present the issue, it's your thread that's your prerogative. Keep doing what you're doing. Feel free to ignore what I said.
>>544942366I have nothing against you as a person, but your portrayal of this topic clearly ignores the experience of many people, dismissing their claims of its demonic nature.You have given your view of the technology involved, which everyone agrees is being used.I have given my view of the underlying source of this practice, which not everyone agrees on.This is the exact place to argue the claims for and against.
>>544936361EXACTLY
>>544936361idk about you senpai zerzetzung sounds preddy badass like something pol should be
>>544942949Shalom!
>>544942898Sorry for misquoting you. I didn't understand what you were asking. I do think you're right in that the question of why people do evil is fundamentally religious. I think most people would agree that what happens to TIs is evil, if they believed it--the problem is that most don't believe it. It's really two different questions: why does evil exist (I agree that's a religious question) and does the evil exist (are TIs actually telling the truth). For me, convincing people that TIs are telling the truth is more important. It's only if people believe that it's actually happening that anything can be done about it.
>>544943083EVERY.SINGLE.TIME.>>544943118>idk about you senpai zerzetzung sounds preddy badass like something pol should beThat is precisely what they intend /pol/ to be.>>544943780>It's only if people believe that it's actually happening that anything can be done about it.The point is that only victims or those who seek Truth will ever believe.The entire system is designed to make you look like a fringe lunatic so that people avoid you like the plague.Churchianity wouldn't come within a mile of this topic for that very reason. One should never appear to be an extremist.*Slight meme correction*
>>544943964Crap!Third times a charm.