How can NATO defeat Russia, if it can not lose militarily because of the nukes, neither economically because of China?
>>544962235NATO hasn't even entered the war. NATO has 3.65 million active-duty military personnel before any conscription and possess 3 Nuclear armed states. The question you should be asking is how can Russia defeat NATO when it can't even defeat Ukraine. China is not a friend of Russia. Russia is a small minority partner and China trades much more with Europe and the United States.
NATO could take Moscow, St. Petersburg and Vladivostok in a few hours if they tried.
>>544962363Russia can counter all NATO weapons, while NATO does not even have air defence
>>544962235The USSR had nukes and they lost.
>>544962543How did they lose? NATO started to spread only when USSR was abolished. During soviet times the west was on its best behaviour.
>>544962520Russia can’t even counter Ukrainian drones but they can counter NATO ordinance? Lol.
>>544962615Russia shoots 1K swarms every day, while one non working self-made drone in germany causes a political crisis
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>>544962520>memeflaggot thinks Russia can fight nato while they cant take 1 pigger town in their backyard without suffering 400 orc casualties
>>544962602>How did they lose?It's always the memeflag niggers with the retarded questions.
>>544962656>political crisisYou’re thinking that air raid alarms and shelter signals aren’t constantly going off in there? Lmao.
>>544962688there is difference between destroying the enemy and securing the area from terrorists
>>544962602>same tired old Russian liesEvery nation the Russians occupied bolted the moment there was a chance and BEGGED to be let into NATO.Because of Russia. Nobdy forced them.Russia is continental empire, something that somehow survied the end of colonialism, and it will decolonize.
>>544962780they just wanted to rip off the alliance for money
>>544962832New chat! Please give me a recipie for pelmeni!
>>544962780or more like they saw what happened to serbia and got pressured into joining
>>544962235Best thing to do is kill every single Russian by whatever means necessary
>>544962915You ASK to join NATO. NATO does not ask you anything.
>>544962235By fighting it in reality instead.
>>544963100>You ASK to join NATO. NATO does not ask you anything.>were INVITEDouch, desperate lie shatters with a simple google search
>>544962915You can't be forced to join, you AKS to join because EVERY NATO MEMBER HAS AGREE TO YOU JOINING!If Greece or Belgium says "no" you will not join.Unity by consent is a concept Russian bots like you really do not understand.Now give me by damn pelmeni recpie, you stupid bot!
>>544963316>you either join or you're next serbiaok massa
>>544963315>that filename>I am not a bot, I swear
>>544962235There is not a single objective factor that would favor a Russian victory in a direct confrontation. NATO has the advantage by all metrics.To fight against superior forces, need to be a brown partisan in a mountains or in a warm jungles. Or hope for some kind of miracle.
>>544963380tranny enters broken record stage
>>544963316How did greece said yes to turkey joining?
>>544963381> There is not a single objective factorAnd what are those objective factors? The only real war Nato has been in is Ukrainian. The rest of their conflicts they just bombed civilians who couldn’t shoot back.
>>544962235Europe can't field an army.That's ridiculousare they going to send antifa?there's no fucking way modern Europeans could fight a war. The immigrants aren't going to do it and the natives are pissed about the immigrants.They can't do shit
>>544963381The second such conflict could have been Iran, but they surrendered already and left their ally alone.
>>544963419Are you retarded?Greece did not have to "say yes" to Turkey joining NATO because both nations joined simultaneously as a unified strategic package deal on February 18, 1952.
>>544963552>unified strategic package dealso you see, there is always a solution
>>544963381Get rid of Putin!Build a robust legal system!Rejoin the world!
>>544963612they already did in the 90s
>>544963381have you read your own history?Germans had a massive technological advantage over RussiansSo did NapoleanThe winters and sheer bloody-mindedness of Russians makes it impossible to invade
>>544963612What are the benefits? Russia is now doing the best since the soviet union, and that is with all of the sanctions and war.
>>544963659> Germans had a massive technological advantage over Russiansat the beginning, that is why they attacked. At the end of ww2 USSR had technological advantage in pretty much everything, that is why they lost
>>544963745that's even more impressivebloody minded and smartremember they share a border with China
>America stops helping>Anal rape ensueslmao
>>544963486>And what are those objective factorsEconomy, number of soldiers and aircraft, decentralization. Europe also produces a large number of drones.>Nato has been in is UkrainianNATO isn’t even directly involved there.>>544963518>Iran>brown partisan in a mountains>>544963612This is impossible through internal forces. There are no factors that would allow this to happen.>>544963659>Germans had a massive technological advantage over RussiansThey didn’t actually have it. A failure occurred at the strategic level early in the war, but the USSR quickly rebuilt its strength, partly thanks to aid from foreign states.>So did NapoleanHe was a retard.>The wintersThey don’t matter in 2026, especially with a kinda good roads.
>>544963745Land-lease.
>>544963315Lmao, you know you have REQUIREMENTS to join NATO, right? You think they hand these out at a street corner?
>>544963885Even right wing Americans are sick of war Only old draft dodgers who watch too many WWII propaganda documentaries on the history channel still want to fight a ground war.boots on the ground is a political third rail.The lesson of WWII is peace is the best option.
>>544963933be a shitskin loving faggot or islamic caliphate like turkey?
>>544964071When Turkey joined, it was democratic and secular, actually. >but nowNo refund
>>544962602Hilariously, retarded hardline communists chimped out so hard that the USSR itself banned communism, then dissolved itself a few years later.
>>544962235NATO has no intention of trying to defeat Russia,just like Russia has no intention of trying to defeat NATO.It's all headlines and news and scare tactics for the masses.
>>544962520Did your jewish transition doctor tell you that?
>>544962235>How can NATO defeat Russia,Easily. With both hands tied behind it's back.Not even a contest.
>>544962520lmao, check out this fucking memeflag nigger here. You mean russia has no air defense.
>>544962520One gold mine in Canada has enough arsenic to poison the entire human race. Conventional weapons do not matter if you are illing to try literate means
>>544962235You are coming at this from the wrong angle, NATO just like every other western institution wants their own people die in record numbers.
>>544962235by using subhumans proxies like hohols and after that moldovans who will fight to the last man in a fucking proxy war for soros im mean, it's what is happening right now
Little Goy Blue, come blow your horn,The sheep's in the meadow, the cow's in the corn.Where is the goy who looks after the sheep?Under the haystack, fast asleep.Will you wake him? No, not I,For if I do, he's sure to cry!
>>544962235>can not lose militarily because of the nukesNuke bluff won't change objective decay inside Russian system. Some prison bitch with few thousand armed man almost broke it in 2023. Russia is doomed to collapse on it's own, because even Russians have their boiling point and socioeconomic situation in Russia will only get worse in foreseeable future.NATO's goal is to keep Russia contained, not to invade and fix it (sadly).>neither economically because of ChinaYou assume China will fund Russia's war against NATO? It's not in China's interests to lose European market, just because of Russia. China of course still wants it's vassal state to survive, but going into war against Europe is different thing.