You need 4 elements>country full of resources>white population>everyone works>execute the lazy peopleThere ya go
If that's the cost of a white ethnostate, so be it
>>544970197jesus crhist the did it better in the 90s
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east germany was like this,it still failed btw
>>544970197So… fascism?
retard post + ur jewish
>>544970197lenin did thateven the aristrocrats had to resort to cannibalism to survive
Weirdly enough East Asians like China seem to make this work more than whites even.
Just use AI to optimally determine all allocation of resources. It's not that different from what we're heading anyway.And wasn't the biggest criticism against socialism how it was unable to parse all the information markets were able to?
>>544970629asians are a collectivist group of people. whites aren't.
>>544970197>white populationThis is all it really needs to work(as long as the population remains white).>white population + country full of resourcesThis is basically easy mode. Success is guaranteed unless there is (((foreign))) interference.
>>544970197fun fact. the first girl OAG and the guy with the veins in his forehead went to the same highschool.I know because I went to that highschool.
>>544970197You’re describing something called national socialism.
But it works, it has been in power in countries like Cuba and China for decades.>but they suckYes but who cares, the commies are still in power>but that's communism not socialism!yeah you begin with socialism and end with communism, at one point it's just a codeword, or a more palatable term for communism really, or the newest one, "progressive"
That didn't even work out for the Pilgrims, though.
>>544970595You missed the 'white population' part
>>544970197Sounds like a white slave plantation to me. Hard pass.
>>544970197If you dont have lazy people, then you dont need socialism.Capitalism works just fine as a system for the productive.Its only the unproductive people who insist the system is unfair and they are being taken advantage.Its never the workers making the most and receiving the biggest bonuses calling for unionization or redistribution.Its only ever the ones at the bottom of the stack who keep getting passed over for promotions who insist the system isnt fair.The system is completely fair, you just suck.This is why socialism is also collectivist, because any socialist capable of implementing the system without the power of the mob would necessarily not be a socialist.There is no such thing as a socialist leader, the term is an oxymoron.Any leader of a socialist movement is without exception an individualist manipulating the mass of socialists to benefit them.This is also why democratic socialism is impossible and has literally never existed.Most of the systems the DemSocs call socialist are in fact capitalist, but they want to claim them because they are successful. Anywhere that actual socialists have gained power through democratic means, they immediately entrenched themselves through extra-legal means, making democratic removal impossible and thus making them pure dictatorships.This is what happened in Venezuela and its what's happening in Brazil. You can vote communists into power, but the only way to get them out of power is with guns.And yes, communism is the target end state of socialism.Socialism is only ever the transitory state into communism, all socialist literature states this explicitly.Therefore for all practical purposes the two are the same.
>>544970786That's a fun fact. I like that the veins guy rapidly overtook her in relevance.
>>544970327That symbol isn't socialism, it's fucking communism, retard. Socialism isn't as extreme as people believe. I don't support it, but it isn't communism.
>>544971105>If you dont have lazy people, then you dont need socialism.except the world is full of lazy people that can choose to work or choose to die. Simple as.
>chat define research reasons.
>>544970197>everyone worksSounds gay desu.
>>544970197Lazy people would include those who use daylight hours to post on the internet instead of engaging in society sustaining labor. Since lightbulbs exist you can also perform labor at night. Should just go ahead and remove lazy incentives like personal computers and such.
>>544970197>Country full of resourcesIt might "work" but that same country would still be cleaner and wealthier if you paid somebody in a poor brown country to pollute their own water and air to turn those resources into ready components that your white population could assemble. And even wealthier still if you had some other poor country assemble the parts and instead your white population focused on education so you could produce the next best thing to be sold to the world instead of scraping for pennies on mining and assembly. The trick is to never let the rest of the world come into your country or steal your IP.
>>544970197You don't know how nature works.
This could work on a really small scale (like a small village) but will never work on a city / country / world scale because you don't control the elites. And if you are a single point of failure being this super revolutionary leader, all they have to do is corrupt or kill you and the entire thing is dead.
>>544970197Socialism is the natural progression of capitalism when exposed to entropy. Socialism is corporate welfare disguised as populist welfare.
>>544970197but you wouldn't need socialism if you had all that, any form of economic system would work with those preconditions
I'd rather execute the greedy and corrupted while leaving the lazy to deal with themselves
>>544971764what do ants have to do with anything?
>>544971829saying that it doesn't work is incorrect. In fact historically it worked quantitatively. DDR worked quantitatively. It failed qualitatively tho. You could have an apartment and a car but it was a shoebox in a commieblock and a Trabant and there was no way of getting out if that innovation zero loop.
>>544972587>what does 2+2=4 have to do with anything?you'll just have to find out the hard way, because you're too stupid to find out any other way
>>544970816Not really. A homogeneous population is simply the cheat code to make pretty much any social or political system work since more than anything it ensures a high degree of stability and trust.
>>544970197>worksat what? what is your society trying to achieve? Just survival? Another society trying to achieve something will eventually come along and take you over/kill you. All these "community" driven governments are dead ends in this hyper-technological age.
>>544970197>>execute the lazy peopleEveryone is lazy. People just do what is necessary to live or get what they want. If they have what they want and need then they really don't need to work. There's nothing wrong with laziness in general. It is fine to want to relax and enjoy life. A very natural thing. You're not supposed to work all the time. The only people who have a problem with laziness are kikes who just want a bunch of goy slaves or the Copenhagen syndrome "working class" boomer slaves who fetishes le hard work.
>>544972992Supporting the next generation.
>>544970197>white populationThis is the only element you need to make any society work.
>>544971262Socialism is the start of communism.And once it takes root only violence can remove it.
>>544971764Humans are not ants.
>>544970197>>everyone works>>execute the lazy peoplethis defeats the entire point of socialismhaving someone else do all the work is precisely the entire reason commies and socialists want their bullshit failed evil economic system to be implementedtotal commie deathno exceptions but I don't care either way because I'll just leave and watch you commie fucks starve to death by the millions just like always happens. kill yourself.
>>544972395Eventually your society would collapse like shithole Haiti, or Liberia, etc.Btw it's the bottom 3% that cause all the problems and misery in society, not the top 3%.
>>544970327Cold war Soviet saying...they pretend to pay us, we pretend to work.
>>544970197Marxism itself has an inherent contradiction in its materialism - if there is no soul, good, spirit etc, if everything is reducible to pure mechanical movement of atoms then there is nothing that humans do that capital itself can't do better and cheaper. And there is no moral reason to care about humans more than AI anyway because humans are just organic machines without soul, literally not different than capital in the first placeHence a socialist country trying to protect and enshrine human labor will always be mogged and ultimately destroyed by a capitalist one with the power and superior productivity needed to overpower it
>>544972803Getting an apartment was really easy but getting a car was almost impossible without the right connections. It wasn't even about the money, a random person would simply not be allowed to buy one if he didn't know the right people and someone vouched for him. You are also wrong about 'having no way out', it was actually really easy to move anywhere you wanted within the country, get an apartment / house, find a job and settle. You have no idea what you are talking about it, stop.
If you get everything mentioned then things would mostly be good or even great, but it would still start deteriorating if it literally meant people get the same outcome regardless of skills, input, being gifted or even being lucky. You can run it for maybe two generations and then people start questioning why should they do more than the bare minimum even if they are capable of more and then even the bar of the bare minimum will have to be lowered. Even without brown people moving in or anything like that. It was already tried to some extent. People in late SU were not massacred mindlessly but no one gave a shit either.
>>544973829I have heard normies in SU had to ask for a car and then wait in line for 10-15 years to have one but at least some of them would eventually get one. This would not apply to the chosen people or other elites obviously.There would be practically zero homeless people but you would need a visa inside SU to be permitted to move inside it. Maybe this was relaxed in the last years?Pls correct more if you detect misinfo in posts.
>>544974131But was the car coming in the morning or the evening?
>>544970197You won't do shit loser
>>544970197>country full of resourcesSo you're accepting a switch of government forms into the future? Because resources exhaust. And if not, you're accepting control of minimum and max production, where too much or too little is a crime.
>>544970197It's called jail
>>544970197I have something better than socialism, communism, anarcho-capitalism, and everything else ever created on this planet—all of them combined.
